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B.S. in Basketweaving

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by PleatsnCleats


So the NCAA has released figures indicating that graduation rates are rising among student athletes at Division I colleges and universities. Of course, the story begins with statistics on the "high-profile" sports like men's basketball, football, and baseball, and women's soccer, basketball, volleyball, and softball. They say that men's basketball graduation rates jumped 8 percent.

Then, in the press release, NCAA President Myles Brand tells a bold-faced lie :


“NCAA student-athletes are students first, and by and large they are good students,” he said. “They have been afforded the privilege of competing in their chosen sport while pursuing their studies as full-time students, and most of them are handling those twin responsibilities quite well.”

Perhaps he's referring to the National Civil Aviation Authority, and not the NCAA that employs him. Because that's the biggest load of crap I have heard since . . . I'll stop picking on him, so never mind. It's B.S., and I don't mean a bachelor of science.

In whose universe are student-athletes "students" first? Only in the name you call them. Many of these so-called student-athletes aren't going to class (I said MANY, so every school does not fit in this category), and if they do, still more are not doing the work . . . NOT because they don't want to (ok, not always) but because the coach and the team's boosters, who did graduate from that school, don't want classes to interfere with their playing. And heck, playing some sports is a full time job. Who wants to do extra work after that? And if studies did take precedence, then how come they don't take you to meet the professors on recruiting trips? Please. Don't let school interfere with their ability to play their sport. Because if they do, they are going to get lambasted by the press and their classmates for under-performing.

I wanted to save my NCAA rant for the Reggie Bush post, but I think I'll just jump right into it here.

College sports are only amateur because the NCAA has one of the biggest rackets going. They get, for free, the services of these soon to be pro athletes under the guise of promoting education when nothing could be further from the truth. They exploit their talent, give them a few bucks to attend their school, and get, again for free, what they should be paying for. The players become household names but they don't get paid a dime for anything, all in the spirit of not tarnishing the sanctity of college sports. The NCAA says that a free education is payment enough to these kids, but when they're making millions while the kids get flack for taking $1 from anyone other than their family, the whole thing smells a little funny.

Once you parse through the minuscule increases in the graduation rates, and keep in mind that these are numbers for people who entered the college or university from 1997 to 2000 and graduated by 2007, you get to the real numbers. The lows. The bottom line is that if a school is graduating less than 1 in 5 of all of its players - or none at all, if you played basketball at the University of Maryland - then these overall increases are irrelevant because somebody is being failed.

Plus, just graduating is not enough. What classes are they taking and what kind of degree are they getting? And more importantly, are they doing the work themselves? I don't think it's a big secret that the administrations themselves do everything they can to make sure that the students pass their classes, by any means necessary. They just don't trust their student-athletes to do their school work. This does an extreme disservice to the student-athlete, who won't be able to get another job besides the one and only job they recruited them to do: to play ball.

The student-athletes have suffered enough for far too long with this system. If you're not going to really emphasize education in the "high profile" college sports, then so be it, but please don't insult our intelligence by trying to convince us otherwise.

Also published at Pleats 'n Cleats

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Pittsburgh GunnyMajor Leaguer
779 days ago
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You state in your article that half of the student athletes are not going to class. Now is that just idle speculation or do you have statistical data to back that up? Plus I have been on recruiting trips visiting different colleges and we did in fact meet many of the professors or heads of different academic departments so that statement you make about not meeting them is rubbish.
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PleatsnCleatsVarsity
779 days ago
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One, what sport do you play? Two, what schools are you going to? I also went on recruiting trip and never met a single professor, and I went to a school where academics were more important than sports. The data is based upon informal polling and my own personal experiences and things people have told me. The point is not whether they go to class (because a lot of schools do have policies for attendance), the point is whether their academics are being touted
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Pittsburgh GunnyMajor Leaguer
779 days ago
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I don't doubt some recruiting trips do not include the academics of a particular university, but, I have personal experience where the University did include academics so I took issue with the blanket statement in the article. So your half of those student athletes is not based on a valid statistical model which makes it heresay. I do not doubt that some of the higher profile NCAA athletes do indeed get a free pass, but I would venture to speculate that the majority of NCAA student athletes put in a great deal of time and effort into their studies in order to earn a degree from their chosen institution.
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Anonymous Fanatic #1
779 days ago
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First, the fact that most of the people I know did not go to meet a prof while they were there means that somebody's not doing it. If you want me to clarify that all these things are in my experience, then I am happy to do that. I never said anything about statistics, but perhaps the emphasis on "half" implied that I really meant half based on some stat. Half was a general statement, and I appreciate you giving me the opportunity to clarify that. I think my point remains the same. There are exceptions to every statement, I didn't mean for it to be taken as 100% of all students on recruiting visits.

Second, we're not talking about the majority of NCAA athletes, because I believe that it's true that the majority do attend class and put effort into their studies. We're talking about the "high profile" sports, which can also include the so-called fringe sports depending on the school. I know more about this than I can share but because my interest is not in calling anyone out, nor in any way blaming any of the students, I'm not going to do that. I do think kids would like to learn and they would be more inclined if they had as much support for that as they do for making sure they have the proper form. But the fact remains that there are only so many hours in the day, and if something has to suffer, in my opinion, it's going to be school over sports. Particularly at schools where sports is what keeps the school afloat. Again, the point is not about what the students do, it's about not saying one thing and then doing another in practice.

If you are not graduating ANY of your students over the course of 10 years, something is wrong with that picture.
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PleatsnCleatsVarsity
779 days ago
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Sorry, I wrote the above comment, I didn't realize I wasn't signed in.
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Pittsburgh GunnyMajor Leaguer
779 days ago
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Thanks for the clarification, I think when talking about the top flight of NCAA athletes I tend to think that we agree on your analysis of the situation. Many top flight programs I believe do not put the emphasis on the academic end of things and do infact exploit the athletic prowess of said athletes with minimal return to the athlete. How to fix that problem is a whole other issue. Thanks again for the reply.
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DonatevoMajor Leaguer
779 days ago
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Why do you have to meet proffesors on a recruiting trip? Especially if the school has a good academic reputation. You know if you go to class, do your classwork, pay attention, and study for tests, you'll graduate. If you don't, you won't. I saw plenty of students in school, who skipped tons of classes and failed. They didn't have to be athletes to be crumby students.
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PleatsnCleatsVarsity
779 days ago
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I'm just saying that if you're going to say academics are so important, blah blah blah, then why aren't they introducing you to the professors instead of just having you visit with the coaches? I don't think they have to have you meet with profs, but if you're going to go there, well then, back it up with some action. I was admittedly taunting them.
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TylersaltAll-Star
779 days ago
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Problem is, that you hear "NCAA student-athlete" and you think "1-A football and basketball players." Any athlete in just about any sport at any school in any division counts as an NCAA student-athlete. That's where this argument about going to class breaks down.
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PleatsnCleatsVarsity
779 days ago
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Agreed, per my previous comment.
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DNLLegend
779 days ago
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Yep, entirely. My cousin played women's ... something... and she qualified as a student athlete. Everyone on her team, assumedly, graduated.
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DonatevoMajor Leaguer
779 days ago
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I went to college with Phil Bradley, at Missouri. Phil ended up making a living in MLB for Seattle. He worked his butt off at school. He's not the only one. The graduation rate at Missouri is about the same for student athletes, as it is for the student population as a whole. About half of all students who start college, do not graduate. Plain fact.
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PleatsnCleatsVarsity
779 days ago
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But do you truly think the NCAA promotes school before athletics? That may be true, but I bet when none of the Maryland basketball kids graduated (even giving you the ones who left early for the pros), more than "none" who started at the same time graduated. All of the numbers are not abysmal, which is the point of the NCAA's press release. But some of them are, and that shouldn't get lost in the shuffle.
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DonatevoMajor Leaguer
779 days ago
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Some coaches put less emphasis on making sure their athletes get an education, than others.
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DonatevoMajor Leaguer
779 days ago
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The universities don't get the services of these athletes for free. They give these athletes scholarships. And the great majority of these athletes will never play professionally, no matter what the sport. If they want to waste their scholarships, then that's what they'll do. And I don't see how going to class, and doing the classwork, interferes with their playing.
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Dcsundevil2002Div-I Stud
779 days ago
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Are you inferring that "student athletes" need to graduate? It is a shame that the kids don't stay all four years (if it takes only four years to graduate now) but the schools make so much money off of these kids that if they can jump to teh Pros (which I think anoly about 10% or so do) then so be it.
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PleatsnCleatsVarsity
778 days ago
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No, I'm talking about the ones who don't jump to the pros early. I don't have any problem with kids leaving school early to turn pro. You have to strike while the iron is hot. I do think it's a good idea to get your degree later on, though.
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