armchairgm
all sports, all you
+ Add Friends
You are not logged-in.
Sign Up - Log In
Main Page
Sports
Write
Articles
Hot Links
Images
Meet People
Fun
Explore
MLB - NFL - NBA - NHL - College Basketball - College Football - Soccer - Nascar - Other
Article - Locker Room Discussion
All Articles - New Articles - Today's Articles
Submit a Link - Approve Links
Picture Game - Ratings - Polls - Pick Game - Quiz Game - Spring Silliness
Random Page - Random Image - Random Fan

About the Author

Sj-hypocycloid
Mike Frangione has engaged himself in the noble calling of sportswriting over the years (1991-1997, and again in 2007), enjoying two stints covering (stringing) High School sports for my local newspaper in South Jersey. That was a great learning experience and also a great deal of fun.

More By Sj-hypocycloid

Phillies World Series 2009: A Year Later, and They Still Don't Want Us
10 votes, 15 comments
The Phillies And Their "Problem"
9 votes, 10 comments
Happy To Be Proven Wrong By The Phillies Pitchers
9 votes, 3 comments
View All

Other recent voters

If you like the article, vote for it.
Edit
Page history Discuss pageWhat links here

Yo Phils! Dude, Where's My Pitching??

by Sj-hypocycloid
created April 30, 2009, last edited May 08, 2009
10
Vote

Okay, Phillies, so you listened. I called for you guys to sweep the Marlins, and you went out and did it. Nice job.

But now we gotta talk about the pitching. Dudes, seriously? I've been told by an endless array of other writers how y'all had career years last year, and how this pitching staff was no great shakes, and how - beyond Cole Hamels - y'all ain't got much going on.

And you're proving the point! Doesn't that kind of smack talk tick you off? It ticks me off and I'm not even the focus of the criticism!

I think it's awesome that you can get down by four runs, come back, give up the damn lead again, and then score the win on a grand slam. It's a great way to end a game, and Raul Ibanez is the shiznat....but, come on guys. I mean, 13-11? That's great stuff for highlights, but not so great for fans that would prefer 13-2 laughers. Does anyone remember laughers??? (does anyone remember Led Zeppelin?)

All right, check it:

  • Brett Myers leads the starters with a 4.91 ERA going into tonight's game. And he's given up eight homers. This was a problem last year too - and that demotion did him a world of good. Just sayin'...Tell you what - go a game without giving up a homer and I'll ease off the gas a bit.
  • Jamie Moyer (and I will refrain from making a joke about his age because he is currently the best Phillies pitcher) is next with a 5.09 ERA. But he gets a pass because he is also 3-1. Keep up the good work, buddy.
  • Cole Hamels is tied with Brad Lidge with a 7.27 ERA. Despite his chiropractor, Hamels has been oft injured and we're still waiting to see the pitcher who was lights out in the playoffs and World Series last year. Now Lidge is nursing an injury. The fool national broadcasters always prattle on about "If they can avoid injury" - I guess there is something to this.

Oh yeah, I'll give Hamels and Lidge a pass because...well, because they were lights out in the playoffs and World Series last year! But - I'd still like to see some quality outings, boys. Okay?

  • Joe Blanton? Hmmm...I'll give him some space. He's been pretty....awful thus far, but he did have some great moments last year. Time to get going, dude. Sooner the better.
  • Chan Ho Park. Why? All I have to say. I got nothin' else. I'm ready to see what JA Happ can do in the starting rotation. Or Pedro Martinez. Anyone. Bueller? Bueller? Frye?

But it's not all doom and gloom. Ryan Howard has a .273 batting average, which is about 100 points higher than last year. Chase Utley and the aforementioned Ibanez have been...spectacular. Nothing new there. Pedro Feliz and Shane Victorino have been steady as well. Offensively, the Phillies are starting to roll.

And then there's the Mets, who were the darlings of the prognosticators when the season began. So...I ask the question again: Beyond Johan Santana and Fransisco Rodriguez, who do they have for pitching? Amazingly, they may have a more underwhelming pitching staff than the Phillies do.

All that hand wringing over whether or not the Phils could keep up with the Mets, and it was the Marlins that were the problem. Well, after running into the buzzsaw that is the Pittsburgh Pirates (a three-game sweep), the Fish were swept by the Phils, and suddenly, the NL East was within 1 1/2 games.

And the Mets (mired in 4th place) are hardly a factor. If this keeps up, they will at least spare their fans the ignominy of choking away the NL East in the last week of the season. Oh, and...was that the Met bullpen that blew that save tonight? Maybe some more tinkering is necessary.

Of course, I mock at the Phillies peril, as the two teams open a three-game set this weekend, presumably to duke it out for bragging rights in the NL East. And it may not matter, as the Marlins square off against the Cubs this weekend, so I doubt that the standings will change much for any of these three teams.

And Atlanta? At 10-11, they hold third place in the NL East, and certainly warrant some conversation. They're just as inconsistent as the Phils, Mets and Marlins. At this point, any of the three could win the division. The Braves, in my mind, have an edge this weekend, as they take on the struggling Astros.

Yes, so far, it's been a crazy, fun season. I hope that May is a little more stable for the Phillies, but I'm sure we'll see more of the same. And that's fine - nothing wrong with a little excitement in baseball. But it would be nice if they won some games before the 8th and 9th innings.

And with an 11-9 record, and no more games in April, the Phillies have guaranteed their second consecutive winning April. Well done, boys - here's to ya. Now for the tough love part - get yer heads outta yer butts and get that pitching straightened out.

A low-scoring sweep of the Mets would go a long way to repairing my fractured confidence in the pitching staff.

Go Phils!!!

Originally Posted on southjersey-stillers-phillies.blogspot.com on April 29th.


Enable Comment Auto-Refresher
JuTMSY4Legend
195 days ago
Score 1+-
Hey SJ...have you seen this:

Try and watch it with a straight face...

This time, I totally agree with you about pitching...a huge reason they won it all last year. That being said, while they haven't always looked great, besides hamels and Lidge, the staff has been healthy and has depth (Happ and Carrasco)...plus JC Romero is coming back in June, which will give them a shot in the arm (because Eyre and Taschner, aren't getting it done).

As I said at this point last year...I'm just happy to see more wins than losses in April...and with the Mets, Marlins and Braves are struggling as well (if not worse) they're actually in a better position than last year...
Permalink | Reply
Sj-hypocycloidAll-American
195 days ago
Score 1+-
Hear hear. Despite the way it may sound, I am optomistic about the Phils chances. But....they definitely needed to have swept the Marlins to totally get me on board.


I think that the pitching should settle down sometime in mid to late May. But they need to do something with Park. To me, he's a less expensive Adam Eaton.
Permalink
JuTMSY4Legend
195 days ago
Score 1+-
Park wasn't really supposed to be a starter, and frankly I'm surprised he was picked over Happ (who pitched pretty well last year)... I think its only a matter of time before he and Happ switch places...and if Hamels goes on the DL, it'll be sooner...unless they call up carrasco...
Permalink
Sj-hypocycloidAll-American
195 days ago
Score 0+-
Again, I agree - Happ is just a better pitcher. And that Mets Ad is pretty weak. Is that really the best they could do? They're in more trouble than they realize...this is kind of (too early to really say this) a make or break series for the Mets.
Permalink
CheezerAll-Star
195 days ago
Score 2+-
I listen to Led Zeppelin every day as they are part of my I-pod song shuffle.
Permalink | Reply
Sj-hypocycloidAll-American
195 days ago
Score 2+-
Cool! Me too. I even like some of the songs on "Coda"
Permalink
JuTMSY4Legend
195 days ago
Score 2+-
even us kids pay homage... They are the greatest band ever, afterall...
Permalink
CheezerAll-Star
195 days ago
Score 2+-
Ya lost me at "Coda".
Permalink
CheezerAll-Star
195 days ago
Score 1+-
Just kidding.  :-)
Permalink
Sj-hypocycloidAll-American
195 days ago
Score 0+-
Cheez - I hear ya...was wondering what you'd say. :-) But I will say that "Poor Tom" and "Bonzo's Montreaux" are pretty great tunes.
Permalink
CheezerAll-Star
195 days ago
Score 0+-
Ozone Baby isn't bad either.
Permalink
Sj-hypocycloidAll-American
195 days ago
Score 0+-
I'm sure there are Pink Floyd, Genesis, Grateful Dead and U2 fans who could make a case as well. It's all good for discussion.


See? This site's not dying. We just need to make statements that people will naturally disagree with.


Watch - I'll start one. Solo artists? Tupac? Maybe. How about Bob Dylan, Peter Gabriel, Eric Clapton, Mozart or Beethoven?
Permalink
Sj-hypocycloidAll-American
195 days ago
Score 1+-
Damn - this is on the wrong thread. Oh well, I'll leave it to you folks to run with it.
Permalink
JuTMSY4Legend
195 days ago
Score 1+-
U-fucking 2?!?!?
Permalink
Sj-hypocycloidAll-American
195 days ago
Score 1+-
Hmm...I'd have expected more forceful dissent for Genesis...
Permalink
CheezerAll-Star
195 days ago
Score 1+-
I paid it no attention whatsoever. Figured it was a rogue virus in your computer.
Permalink
RawbeezeitzMajor Leaguer
195 days ago
Score 0+-
They are the greatest band ever, afterall...


ummmmmmm, no disrespect to LZ, but...


Beatles-Lonely-Hearts-LP1179.jpg
Permalink | Reply
CheezerAll-Star
195 days ago
Score 1+-
I still prefer Zeppelin. I also think that Dylan or Lennon would be the best solo artist.
Permalink
CheezerAll-Star
195 days ago
Score 1+-
Didn't mean to nest that comment...
Permalink
JuTMSY4Legend
195 days ago
Score 2+-
I knew someone would say the Beatles...I mightily disagree, but its a matter of taste
Permalink
Steel TownDraft Pick
195 days ago
Score 2+-
Put me down as strongly disagreeing with the Beatles.
Permalink
RawbeezeitzMajor Leaguer
195 days ago
Score 1+-
waynesworldnostairwayku0.jpg
Permalink
RawbeezeitzMajor Leaguer
195 days ago
Score 1+-
For the record, I love LZ too.
Permalink
Tyrone BriggsHall of Famer
195 days ago
Score 2+-
I'd argue the Rolling Stones. Of course the greatest recording solo artist of all-time is Tupac.
Permalink | Reply
JuTMSY4Legend
195 days ago
Score 1+-
The Stones are deserve consideration, but I'd argue they haven't stood the test of time as well...which is something their (essentially) copy band has...Aerosmith (speaking as someone who likes them)
Permalink
Sj-hypocycloidAll-American
195 days ago
Score 2+-
One could argue that Aerosmith would be little more than a distant memory if not for Run DMC...
Permalink
Tyrone BriggsHall of Famer
195 days ago
Score 3+-
The world is a better place having Mick and Keith survive the 60s... 70s... 80s.... 90s.... 00s... Jimi, Janis, John, Jim, .... (Geez was it because their names all began with a "J")? Lost em all way too young...
Permalink
Steel TownDraft Pick
195 days ago
Score 3+-
Muddy Waters Buddy Guy > Tupac
Permalink
CheezerAll-Star
195 days ago
Score 2+-
Aerosmith had a comeback when Liv Tyler was in that Armageddon movie as well. They just keep hanging around.
Permalink
Tyrone BriggsHall of Famer
195 days ago
Score 1+-
B.B. King is indeed the king of the blues. Live at the Regal is tremendous on vinyl.
Permalink
CheezerAll-Star
195 days ago
Score 1+-
4 comments about the Phillies, 17 about music. Threadjacking R Us at your service.
Permalink | Reply
Sj-hypocycloidAll-American
195 days ago
Score 1+-
I'm surprised there are no Mets fans commenting...
Permalink
JuTMSY4Legend
195 days ago
Score 3+-
what's a mets fan?
Permalink
Tyrone BriggsHall of Famer
195 days ago
Score 1+-
Answer: Under the rubble of Shea?
Permalink
JuTMSY4Legend
195 days ago
Score 1+-
Everyone knows the greatest artist of all time is David Bowie

this really isn't a debate:

15711__zoolander_l.jpg
Permalink | Reply
JuTMSY4Legend
195 days ago
Score 0+-
I'm sorry...but I can't stop saying...

"CHOKE ON THIS!"

Man, you should us...
Permalink | Reply
JuTMSY4Legend
195 days ago
Score 1+-
Man, you showed us - chalk it up to typos...
Permalink
Anonymous Fanatic #1
195 days ago
Score 1+-
blah, blah about the Phillies. once the Braves bullpen gets its act together the Braves will be deadly. pitching staff is amazing so far. offensively we need to pick it up a tad bit, but we're ready for a braves/phillies rematch. you guys got off easy in the last game of the opening series. never again remember the walk away win. go read my blog about that devastating loss for the braves. "Walk Away Win" http://sport.../posts/83535
Permalink | Reply
Bravesgirl85Waterboy
195 days ago
Score 0+-
i really need to learn how to sign in. bravesgirl85 still coming at you
Permalink
Add your Comment
ArmchairGM welcomes all comments. If you don't want to be anonymous, Register or Login. It's free
Categories: Opinions | Opinions by User Sj-hypocycloid | April 30, 2009 | April 2009 | Baseball Opinions | MLB Opinions | Philadelphia Phillies Opinions | New York Mets Opinions | Unsubstantiated Rants Opinions

Don't Miss

Phillies World Series 2009: A Year Later, and They Still Don't Want Us
Sorry, But I'm Not Sorry
2009 NHL Preview
In Which Ricketts Wins World Series
2009 Week 3: Let’s Talk About Your Favorite NFL Team

In the News

Hey ArmchairGM users! Want to help the admins update this news section? Click here to help us out.

Comments of the Day

0 Because snooker is a sport... And sports are facking AWESOM...
0 i personally think this list has no validity. it does...
0 I don"t think money is the object here. Even if he...

Take a Poll

What manager or coach was credited with kicking dirt onto Jocko Conlan's shoes at home plate?
Walter Alston Casey Stengel Leo Deroucher Billy Martin

New Articles

Week 10 Postgame: "Don't Want No Drama!"
The Silver Lining of a Gold Glove
From Ninth to First: What If the Red Sox Had Tony Conigliaro in October?
Baseball & Basketball losing it!
Whether James will leave the Cleveland Cavaliers or not?

Retrieved from "http://armchairgm.wikia.com/Article:Yo_Phils%21_Dude%2C_Where%27s_My_Pitching%3F%3F"

This page was last modified 13:29, 30 April 2009. Content is available under the GFDL.

Main Page About Special Pages Help Terms of Use Advertise