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Who's The Best Commentor (Mid-2008 Edition)

by JuTMSY4
created June 16, 2008, last edited February 10, 2009
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Welcome to another edition of Who’s the Best Commentor.  This edition will feature some new improvements over previous editions, spurred on by some dialogue I had earlier today. 


Here’s some quick notation and an explanation.  I gathered information from the top users page and/or each individual user.  Any user who did not make the top 100 comments did not make the list, any user who did not make the top 100 in either thumbs up or thumbs down, did not make the list.  Any user who did not make the top 100 in either thumbs up or thumbs down received an “Assumed Score” as noted here:

 

1. * Denotes an Assumed Negative Score of 40

2. ** Denotes an Assumed Positive Score of 250

3. # Denotes Multiple Known Avatars added Together

Without Further Adieu, here are the numbers as of June 16, 2008:


Image:TUP6.16.08.JPG


Image:TDOWN6.16.08.JPG


Image:TCOMPOSITE6.16.08.jpg


As you can see, Tmil42 continues his control of the composite score and Oneflydude has removed the asterisk and taken full control of second.  21 users have composite scores above 1 (i.e. each comment they post receives at least 1 plus to 0 minuses).  Three users have negative composite scores, none are active and nothing is surprising.

Then I decided to take heed to the time involved in commenting. The following represents scores based on days as a user, therefore effectively describing who’s actually been commenting the most. I have not ordered this beyond the composite score.

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Finally, I wanted to come up with a way to remove the factor of over-commenting to discover who was commenting most effectively. Therefore I created contribution factor, which represents your comments per day by your composite score. And then the effectiveness factor, which removes your total comments per day, hence the number of positive things you say regardless of over-commenting.

Image:TEFF6.16.08.jpg

Congrats to Falcon02520 for having the highest effective rating.


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SSreportersLegend
513 days ago
Score 3+-
I just love the fact Pnatt is on here.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
513 days ago
Score 3+-
You guys aren't so dissimilar, you knw.
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SSreportersLegend
513 days ago
Score 0+-
I don't demand changes to the rules of sport over and over and over again.:)
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
513 days ago
Score 6+-
I'm still the highest words per comment poster! (No need to calculate) Question... because I'm curious like that, did you REALLY need to go out 9 decimal places?
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CoreyisarealboyMajor Leaguer
513 days ago
Score 5+-
Did you really need to count how many decimal places he went?
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
513 days ago
Score 5+-
who counted? I recognize things like numbers really fast, that's all (I used to work with numbers). Besides, he went to 10 places on some anyway...
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Falcon02520Legend
513 days ago
Score 5+-
I think some of your longer comments should just count as articles anyway...
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
513 days ago
Score 5+-
word.
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KelsdadAll-Star
513 days ago
Score 2+-
Did you really have to comment four times, (so far)?
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CoreyisarealboyMajor Leaguer
513 days ago
Score 3+-
Don't ask KD to count decimal places, though. I only count three comments.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
513 days ago
Score 3+-
Now he's right.
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KelsdadAll-Star
513 days ago
Score -6+-
Oh, and this should be a lockerroom...
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SSreportersLegend
513 days ago
Score 0+-
I don't think JuT is trying to impress The bosses of the site, unlike this guy. This stays because throughout this site's history, anything that is ArmchairGM user related is fine.
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Falcon02520Legend
513 days ago
Score 6+-
What do you mean trying to impress the admin? I've already stated that I don't want to be an admin. I don't want a job at wiki because I like to do this stuff when I feel like, I don't want to have to do it. Oh, and if I were trying to impress them with my stuff on AGM, wouldn't I do it while they were active and not after it is clear they are out working on other things?
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SSreportersLegend
513 days ago
Score -2+-
I didn't say ONE thing about you wanting to be an admin, if fudging with numbers was all it took, then anyone with the slightest bit of mathematical brain in them could do it.


We're just pulling your leg considering we know your displeasure for the way live blogs are done, and the points system and everything else.
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Falcon02520Legend
513 days ago
Score 3+-
I won something legit? I'd like to thank the academy... and JuT for coming up with some type of formula that would let me win...
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SSreportersLegend
513 days ago
Score 0+-
Did you remember to reset the password after you logged out of JuT's account, Falc?
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KelsdadAll-Star
513 days ago
Score 0+-
If that is the case, then the weekly/monthly reports would be articles too.
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JuTMSY4Legend
513 days ago
Score 3+-
Those things are automated...I've tried to get info from the founders (Pean) for this type of article, before, they can't provide it (without a ton of work)... given the time it took, I'd appreciate it remaining an article (plus all the other ones were)
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SSreportersLegend
513 days ago
Score 2+-
And yes, I am indeed very proud that I am dead last in "Effectiveness rating", even worse than Jamel.


Then again, I live blog quite often so that also drags it down but that doesn't matter anyway. Still, I know my comments are pointless sometimes and I'm sorry for that.


I'll be sure to make that rating even worse in 2009! (And with this comment I'm off to a great start!)
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KelsdadAll-Star
513 days ago
Score 3+-
Especially when your pointless comments are tied into an even more pointless article
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SSreportersLegend
513 days ago
Score 2+-
That was meant to be a joke of an LR post!


Come on, if all you needed to do was score a goal to win beer for life wouldn't you do it?


Little did I know it would turn into debate......
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CheezerAll-Star
513 days ago
Score 4+-
Everything turns into a debate. This is the internet.
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KelsdadAll-Star
513 days ago
Score 2+-
Please don't insult your own intelligence by telling us the point of that article was the free beer point... The point was to start a soccer debate. Well done.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
513 days ago
Score 3+-
You aren't the only "live blogger"... nor the most prolific. So wanna try rationalizing that again?

I know why my Effective Rating is "skewed" - I post comments on old articles after no one will ever read them again!


But after analyzing this incredible accumulation of data (can we get this verified by an independent auditor, please?) I must say it's going to change only one part of my usual commenting.

"Nothing"
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JuTMSY4Legend
513 days ago
Score 3+-
and i forcebly included ekom and Too Manny
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RomiezzoLegend
513 days ago
Score 3+-
Is my contribution factor seriously 30.66!?
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JuTMSY4Legend
513 days ago
Score 4+-
yeah, its the highest ( i can e-mail anyone my spreadsheet)... problem is, contribution factors involve tons of comments...so the more comments, the higher the score (generally)...i saw that and there's a direct corrolation...plus you never really argue romi, so you rarely got minus (though this is the first time you've showed up on the score card, i think)
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CoreyisarealboyMajor Leaguer
513 days ago
Score 4+-
Do you think you can create a category where I would be No. 1? Stats can prove anything right?
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JuTMSY4Legend
513 days ago
Score 6+-
do you think i could create a category where i would be number 1?
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RomiezzoLegend
513 days ago
Score 4+-
I argue. I just argue in a calmer fashion than other users.
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CoreyisarealboyMajor Leaguer
513 days ago
Score 3+-
Touche.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
513 days ago
Score 3+-
JuT, there's always the "Handsome Index" to finagle.
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JuTMSY4Legend
513 days ago
Score 3+-
Actually, each time I've made this article more advanced, I've tried to prove something...the first time I was right (commenting more = more plusses, lower overall score)...which is why Tmil, a commentor of average comments had the highest score... This time, I had a different idea and was way off...still worked out pretty well though...
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JuTMSY4Legend
513 days ago
Score 3+-
who's finagling?  ; - ) Numbers are numbers...
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CoreyisarealboyMajor Leaguer
513 days ago
Score 3+-
This article should be titled "Fudging with Numbers" or something. Oh, wait...
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
513 days ago
Score 0+-
FWN Ventures is most certainly willing to sponsor it! After we skew the data some more... =)
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RomiezzoLegend
513 days ago
Score 4+-
Tmil is the MAN! What a comment master!

I went down from 2nd to 3rd in the thumbs down per comment category. I need to live blog like Dre-Lo. Niteowl is truly a great one!

Falcon is very efficient. Congrats on having the highest effective rating.

And one more thing: How does Jamel have a positive thumbs up/thumbs down score?
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RomiezzoLegend
513 days ago
Score 2+-
OH! And nicely done, JuT. You did a really good job on this.
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JuTMSY4Legend
513 days ago
Score 2+-
Frank Stevenson probably...and Tyrone et al probably plussed him...
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
513 days ago
Score 3+-
Tyrone's Plusses given and Jamel/Frank?et al's plusses correlate roughly the same as Tyrone's minuses given and my minuses recieved! Amazing how that works!
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JuTMSY4Legend
513 days ago
Score 4+-
personally, I liked how Tmil's effectiveness was exactly 5...
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RomiezzoLegend
513 days ago
Score 3+-
Check out the "Popular Sports Articles" section on the main page...
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
513 days ago
Score 0+-
That's awesome. From now on, ALL of my articles are going to have very, very long pictures!!!
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JuTMSY4Legend
513 days ago
Score 0+-
you know, i put that pic of the guy with crap coming out of his mouth specifically so that wouldn't happen...
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
513 days ago
Score 2+-
It posts the alpha-numerically first pic every time... Reload it with some zeroes in front of it and it will show.
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JuTMSY4Legend
513 days ago
Score 2+-
hey thanks...this comment should get plusses!
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
513 days ago
Score 3+-
and CAPLETTERS come before small letters, apparently.

Thus "TCO..." comes before "Tal..."

It's wiki!!!
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
513 days ago
Score 0+-
I fudge with more than numbers, you know!
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KelsdadAll-Star
513 days ago
Score 0+-
Long as you don't pack fudge...
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
513 days ago
Score 0+-
I don't pack fudge. Nor have I ever had anal sex. God hasn't made that a viable or medically safe option while blessing me with exceptional girthness. See what happens when you try to be "funny" with me?
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KelsdadAll-Star
513 days ago
Score 2+-
No, what happens?
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
513 days ago
Score 0+-
Visuals... lots and lots of horrible visuals... And words like "bulge", "protrusion", "Brazilian Waxed" and "throbbing" to aid those visuals.
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KelsdadAll-Star
513 days ago
Score 2+-
Whoever's watching the Open, where is the pin on 18?? I hope behind the water
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JuTMSY4Legend
513 days ago
Score 4+-
Anyways, about effectiveness rating...the bulk of people fall above -1 and that's fine IMO...all that means is that in a given day, you make 1 comment which no one cares to plus ( i think that's how it would work)...so, you could say 10 things and 9 are worthy of listening too...
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Falcon02520Legend
513 days ago
Score 4+-
So does that mean when I write 10 things, 13 of them are worth reading?
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CoreyisarealboyMajor Leaguer
513 days ago
Score 2+-
Where did you learn math?
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CoreyisarealboyMajor Leaguer
513 days ago
Score 3+-
Wait, don't answer that. I'll just assume it's the same place you learned about modesty.
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Falcon02520Legend
513 days ago
Score 2+-
touche...
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JuTMSY4Legend
513 days ago
Score 2+-
well...it might have something to do with multiple plusses per comment...

It's probably reasonable that many people are supported by their comments worthy of multiple plusses...

that being said, i find it real funny that SSR gets minus almost 5 times a day and his effective rating is so low...

and that jamel's been gone for a while and he's still so low...for those of you on the bottom side, you should be able to reach virtual 0 by not commenting (in effect)...in reality, you could just measure your comments to those worth typing...
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BigPPupMajor Leaguer
513 days ago
Score 4+-
According to this I am pretty much worthless. Obviously you did not take into account the AGM Linebacker factor that says I am the greatest most effective and dominate force on AGM. I do not approve these rankings.
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Oh No RomoDraft Pick
513 days ago
Score 2+-
/Starts slow clap
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CheezerAll-Star
513 days ago
Score 0+-
*yawn*
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BigPPupMajor Leaguer
513 days ago
Score 3+-
yup last time i read something cheezer writes
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J-DawgVarsity Captain
513 days ago
Score 2+-
Once again J-Dawg continues his sreak of lists where he finds himself outside the top 10...
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Jake The SnakeRed-Shirting
512 days ago
Score 2+-
Once again Jake The Snake continues his streak of lists where he finds himself not even on the list....
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Yakob878MVP
513 days ago
Score 0+-
Ehh math, kepp up the good work Timil
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Tmil42AAA-er
513 days ago
Score 1+-
Well, I'd like to thank Jut, most of all...if it wasn't for his first commenter article, I wouldn't get plussed automatically nowadays.

But I'm glad he's come up with a different way to measure commenting prowess. We all know there are much better commenters around here.


But still...

Someone hinted that they wanted a fanbox of their own... so it is here
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RomiezzoLegend
511 days ago
Score 1+-
Me? A better commenter than you? I don't think so, dude. You're a lot funnier than I am. You deserve all the plusses you get. 1/2 of my thumbs ups are given to me from this guy.
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Yakob878MVP
513 days ago
Score 0+-
your still beter than me and a lot of the rest
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OvertheedgeVarsity
511 days ago
Score 0+-
i am the best commentor
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CheezerAll-Star
511 days ago
Score 1+-
"Therefore I created contribution factor, which represents your comments per day by your composite score. And then the effectiveness factor, which removes your total comments per day, hence the number of positive things you say regardless of over-commenting."

Huh? Perhaps if you included your equations...
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JuTMSY4Legend
511 days ago
Score 1+-
and release my secrets?!?! ; - )
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JuTMSY4Legend
511 days ago
Score 0+-
I don't have the spreadsheet with me...but I think its basically this:

take the total number of days you've been here and your total comments...(comments/Days) to get a comment total per day...

total number of plusses divided by days...plusses per day

and then divide those 2....
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CheezerAll-Star
511 days ago
Score 1+-
I understand what "per day" means. I done gradiated sixth grade.

I was more interested in Composite Score, Contribution Factor and Effectiveness Factor.
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JuTMSY4Legend
511 days ago
Score 0+-
yeah sorry...i try to start from genesis sometimes...

anyways...

Composite score is what I've used before...basically its just (thumbs up - thumbs down)/(total comments)

Contribution factor is (comments per day) * (Composite Score)

and then (i think) Effectiveness is (Contribution Factor) - Comments per day...running on the theory than any good comment gets at least one plus
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KelsdadAll-Star
511 days ago
Score 1+-
JuT, do you prefer Genesis before or after Peter Gabriel left?
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JuTMSY4Legend
511 days ago
Score 0+-
I'm still trying to figure out why Phil Collins won a grammy...
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KelsdadAll-Star
511 days ago
Score 1+-
I'm still trying to figure out how Eminem even got nominated.
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JuTMSY4Legend
511 days ago
Score 0+-
he doesn't know either
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