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USC to Sacrafice Timeout for Home Jerseys

by The Beast
created December 05, 2008, last edited February 10, 2009
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Joe McKnight and the Trojans will be wearing their home uniforms on Saturday against UCLA.
Joe McKnight and the Trojans will be wearing their home uniforms on Saturday against UCLA.

From 1928 through 1982, both the USC and UCLA football teams played their home games at the Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum. During this entire stretch of more than fifty years, both the Trojans and Bruins donned their home jerseys for the annual rivalry game. However, to the dismay of many, this tradition soon died when UCLA moved to the Rose Bowl in 1983.

Since being hired as head coach of the Trojans back in 2001, Pete Carroll has always wanted to bring back the home jersey tradition and even brought up the idea to former UCLA coaches Bob Toledo and Karl Dorrell. But now Carroll has finally decided to “go for it” this season.

Earlier this week, Carroll announced that the Trojans would be wearing their home uniforms on Saturday at the Rose Bowl against UCLA.

“It’s something we’ve been thinking about for a while,” Carroll said. “From talking to coaches at UCLA over the years and seeing the teams wear their home jerseys growing up, it’s something we’re going to start up again this weekend. This has always been a colorful matchup and we hope everyone enjoys this recognition of both the past and the present state of the rivalry.”

While many applaud Carroll’s decision to wear the home jerseys for the game, the team will be penalized and lose one timeout. NCAA rules state that:

“Players of opposing teams must wear jerseys of contrasting colors. If the home team wears colored jerseys and the visiting team does not wear white jerseys, the visiting team will be assessed one timeout following the opening kickoff of the game. The game will proceed from that point with no further penalty for the violation."

After the Trojans are assessed one time out following the opening kickoff, UCLA’s Rick Neuheisel plans to call a timeout immediately following so that both teams will play with two timeouts in the first half with no further penalties. This is a great act of sportsmanship by Neuheisel, as he puts the tradition of the rivalry before his own personal goals.

While Neuheisel seems to be onboard with Carroll’s plan, most Bruin fans ( especially those at Bruins Nation) actually seem to be displeased with the decision:

Make no mistake about it. What Carroll is doing here is not some kind of grand gesture but a total disrespect of UCLA. This will just complement “own the Rose Bowl” rhetoric coming out of their mouths in coming days. They will use this PR stunt to amplify that rhetoric on the recruiting front.

Carroll made this move because right now he is in a state of mind that is well beyond confidence. He is basically telling the world that his team and his players can wear their home jerseys in our house and beat us with their hands tied behind their back. As I said above, we never heard about such concern for tradition and pageantry from the Trojans during our 8 game winning streak.

Whatever. At this point Neuheisel should call Pom Pom’s bluff and agree to give up one TO (in each half) and then call on Carroll to do the same next season at the Rose Bowl. But what Carroll did on Sunday w/o conferring with Neuheisel is a total sign of disrespect.

It seems a little silly to get so upset with Carroll for not having a prescheduled jersey discussion with Neuheisel. I’m sure that both coaches have more important things to do than talk about jerseys over the phone for a couple of hours. Carroll made his decision, Neuheisel made his, and that was that. No big deal.

It’s even more ridiculous to suggest that the restoration of this home jersey tradition is a recruiting tactic for the Trojans. Carroll has always admired the tradition, and he doesn’t need his team to wear their home jerseys in the Rose Bowl to sign any more five-star recruits. He does a good enough job as it.

In actuality, the Bruins should be thanking Carroll for thrusting the USC-UCLA crosstown rivalry back onto the national stage. The home jersey story is starting to garner a lot of national press, and the more coverage surrounding UCLA should only help their recruiting. It’s strange how Bruins Nation can twist such a nice little tradition into a recuiting ploy for the Trojans, as this is simply a great story for USC, UCLA, and the rest of the Pac-10.


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BigPPupMajor Leaguer
357 days ago
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I swear this is the most over hyped and dumbest story in sports right now. In stead of talking about two teams that matter (Alabama and Florida) the media is consumed with talking about f'ing jersey and costumes and what can Pete Carroll do now to make his team news worthy. Just play the damn game, it really doesnt matter let's be honest.
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JuTMSY4Legend
357 days ago
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I do kinda hope UCLA wins
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BigPPupMajor Leaguer
357 days ago
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Not gonna lie I agree with you on that one JT.
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RawbeezeitzMajor Leaguer
356 days ago
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There's no kinda about it for me. I loathe Pete Carroll and want to see him exposed as the non-coach that he is. I want the Bruins to embarrass the Trojans in red, white, orange, purple... any color.
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CheezerAll-Star
357 days ago
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Any story that takes the spotlight away from that weasel Saban is a good one in my book.
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BigPPupMajor Leaguer
357 days ago
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Saban is an ass, but he deserves the spotlight right now. He brought Alabama out of the darkness and to the brink of a national title.
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JuTMSY4Legend
357 days ago
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but that spotlight will dim after this weekend when Meyer hands him his ass
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CheezerAll-Star
357 days ago
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I don't care how good he is at his job. That is no excuse for being a miserable human being. The more we accept this type of behavior as long as your a "winner", the more we'll get it. It's only be demanding better that we get better.
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BigPPupMajor Leaguer
357 days ago
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You pay the man to come in and win championships. That is what he does. Too often we mix sports with the morale fiber of this country and it's BS. Saban is a football coach, nothing more nothing less. He is good at his job and that's all he is required to do. Would it be nice if he was a good and genuine person? Yes it would, but he's an ass. And you know what, most coaches are asses. Every college football coach lies and cheats. They lie every time they hit the recruiting trail. They lie every time they take a press conference and give that "we take it 1 game at a time" and " both teams played hard bs"
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CheezerAll-Star
357 days ago
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He works at a university. An institute of higher education.

I guess that Saban is just a foil for my frustration. My issue is with the entire system, Pup. You and I will never agree because you are a huge fan of major college sports and I think that they are a blight on the face of our country. These players should be getting paid and should not be associated with a university. College scholarships should be used for people who intend to get a degree and do not intend to go into professional sports. College sports should be focused on rivalries and tradition. Who cares who the national champion of college is? Nobody except the corrupt university officials trying to get rich and the idiot Alumni that actually believe that one university is better than another simply because they won an athletic contest. These alumni need to take pride in their education, not their (football, basketball, etc.) team.

I say again that we, as citizens of this culture, have a responsibility to not tolerate a system that promotes this type of behavior. These players are treated as indentured servants and university money that could be spent to further education is used to promote athletics. As a culture, we lose.

One more thing. You say, "Too often we mix sports with the morale fiber of this country..." I say, too often we mix professional sports with student athletics.
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Steel TownDraft Pick
357 days ago
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Considering Saban works for a public institution and is paid with public money perhaps he should worry about how he acts. Belichick is an ass, but he is paid by Kraft so in the end Kraft decides his fate. I don't think it is right to tell the taxpayers that they need to continue to pay a man that is a horses ass cause he wins. Cheezer is absolutely right.
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BigPPupMajor Leaguer
357 days ago
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As someone who I dare say understands the inner workings of colleges and universities better than most (grew up on a campus, mother is a president of a university) I agree with you to a degree Cheez, but you are putting too much faith into the public eduction. All major schools exist to earn money and praise for themselves. The presidents of those schools are given the job to gain the most amount of exposure as possible for their respective schools. Are college athletes neglected in the overall money structure of the system? Yes. However, the theory is in exchange for a paycheck these men and women are given an education, at some of the finest learning institutions on the planet. If they choose not to follow through with that eduction, that is the players fault.

As far as building rivalries and traditions and all that, yes that is a huge part of college sports all of that is great. But as long as you are competing then there will be the need to play for something. If you're not playing for something stay at home.

Too often the plight of the student athlete is well over played. For every failure story of a kid who blew whatever there are 20 kids who got brought to this country or out of someplace they are given a car a place and countless other things and do just fine.

Have you ever seen the endowment for a major university? Do you know how much money these schools make? Any decent major institution is pushing close to 1 Billion dollar endowment. That money doesnt come from the tax payers. Hell most schools dont even run their athletic departments on tax payer money. It's off of donations.

Is the system perfect? No I'll be the first to admit that, again I've been a part of it and know how it goes down. However, to sit there and act like these kids are slaves and that Nick Saban of all people represent the root of all evil is just absurd.
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RawbeezeitzMajor Leaguer
356 days ago
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Steel Town: Saban's salary is paid by taxpayers of Alabama. I am not an Alabama taxpayer and neither are you nor Cheezer so neither Saban, nor U of A have any kind of responsibility to us.


Cheezer: You're not gonna like everyone you meet in this world. Some people are jerks. Get over it. He's a football coach, not a pastor.


I'm sick of hearing people moan about the horrors of being a college athlete. They get free educations, they can slide by in class (if they even go), and even the punters get premium tail. Paying student athletes would only turn it into more of a business. It would only divert more funding from education into sports. It would dramatically tilt the playing field in college athletics even more unfairly.


"Who cares who the national champion of college is?"


Everyone in the South. I don't think any reasonable person thinks that if their team has success on the football field, it somehow means their school is better. It's football, it's fun, it's a way of life for many people in this country, it's culture, it's a form of art.
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The oldest manVarsity
357 days ago
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What is happening with the both home jerseys is great because that is what the game use to be all about with the cross town rivalry. Most of the individuals who read these articles are to young to remember some of the games in the 50's and 60's and 70's with both teams wearing the home colors and it makes for earlier watching on TV. The individual who wrote that Carroll was disrespecting UCLA is wrong with capital letters. Most of the ALmi will agree the two colors uniforms really look great. My son played in this game and I did early in the 30's when the scores were 76-0 If you are not from LA and don't know the teams then the special colors of home and home won't make any difference but to the fans on both schools that remember it will be forever special to see both the color jersey's on the TV tomorrow. I don't really like SC that much but my brother and my best friend attended there. So GO BRUINS and let us hope that it is a interesting game to say the least.
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RawbeezeitzMajor Leaguer
356 days ago
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But why is Carroll doing it this year? Why not 2 years ago? Why not contact Neuheisel beforehand? Why not contact the NCAA before the season and ask permission? Why did he wait until this week to do it? Could it have something to do with nobody caring about the USC/UCLA game outside of southern California?
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The BeastAAA-er
356 days ago
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Rawbeezeitz: I think Carroll got fed up with waiting. He talked about this with Dorrell last year and the year before but nothing ever got done. I think he finally said screw it and let's just do it. At least that's my theory.
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Anonymous Fanatic #1
355 days ago
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BTW, thanks for all the comments and dissenting opinions. We need more civil debates like these at ArmchairGM.
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The BeastAAA-er
355 days ago
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That was me.
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