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The Tomahawk Times - 2008 Braves Preview

by Davis21wylie
created March 22, 2008, last edited November 11, 2009
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See also: 2008 National League Preview

The more things change in Atlanta, the more they stay the same. Yes, John Schuerholz is no longer calling the shots here in the ATL. Yes, the Braves have missed the playoffs in back-to-back seasons for the first time since 1990. Yes, Andruw Jones and his spectacular CF play will be in Dodger blue this year. Yes, the Philadelphia Phillies are the defending NL East champs, and yes, the New York Mets added über-ace Johan Santana over the offseason. But you still can't sleep on the Braves, who have one of the best offenses in the National League and possibly an improved pitching staff. So if Tom Glavine can find the fountain of youth in his old haunt, don't be shocked if the Braves put up a serious fight to take back the East, if not just for old times' sake.

Position Players

Catcher: Because of a season-long ankle injury, Brian McCann had a down year in 2007, with both his on-base and slugging percentages falling dramatically. Over the offseason, the Braves' medical staff decided against surgery on McCann's bone spur, instead recommending rest, and it seems to have worked -- McCann says he's feeling as good as new going into the '08 season. When McCann is on his game (as he was in 2006), he's one of the game's best catchers, a solid defender & game-caller, as well as a powerful hitter with a decent eye who can spray line drives all over the field. With improved health, expect a bounce-back season from McCann in 2008.

Behind McCann on the depth chart are Brayan Pena, Javy Lopez (that's a blast from the past), Clint Sammons, and Corky Miller. Pena is still theoretically the primary backup, but that job could eventually belong to Sammons (a superior defender) if Pena doesn't deliver at the plate.


First Base: With Adam LaRoche in Pittsburgh as a result of the Mike Gonzalez/Brent Lillibridge trade, Atlanta's first base gig was left in the relatively incapable hands of Scott Thorman at the start of 2007... and his .216/.258/.394 line really hamstrung the Braves' offense for the first four months of the season. To shore up this gaping hole in the lineup, Schuerholz sent backup C Jarrod Saltalamacchia and several other prospects to Texas for Georgia Tech alum Mark Teixeira, one of the best first basemen in the game. Tex responded by OPS-ing 1.019 for Atlanta down the stretch, and you can definitely expect similar production (meaning a .920+ OPS) from him going forward as he enters his prime years. In November he had arthroscopic knee surgery, but he's back to full playing form now that spring training is coming to a close.

There is the tricky matter of Teixeira's contract, however. He will be a free agent after the 2007 season, and you can be sure that his agent (Scott Boras) will fetch him top dollar on a market in which he should be the best hitter available. So, as I wrote in my NL Preview, Frank Wren is going to face the ultimate "fish or cut bait" decision at the trade deadline with regard to Teixeira: if the Braves are in the playoff mix in July (and, frankly, they should be), Wren almost has no choice but to hold on to Tex and see the rest of the season through. However, given the increasingly penny-pinching ways of Atlanta's Time Warner and now Liberty Media ownership groups, that course of action will almost certainly result in Teixeira's departure over the offseason via free agency. And sure, they'll get compensatory draft picks if that happens, but it probably won't compare to the prospects Atlanta would receive if Wren deals Tex at the deadline. In all honesty, it's a tough call that I'm glad I don't have to make.

On the backup front, while Thorman made for an underwhelming starter, he's not a bad left-handed power bat to have on the bench. Shockingly, ageless wonder Julio Franco is no longer on the Braves' roster (or any roster, for that matter), but I'm pretty sure they still have his number in case of emergency.


Second Base: Going into 2007, one of the Braves' major question marks was whether or not Kelly Johnson could handle second base well enough to make it as an everyday player. One year later, consider that question nothing if not answered -- Johnson not only showed the natural athleticism to easily handle the transition to the middle infield, but he also impressed with the bat, hitting .276/.375/.457 with good power & terrific patience, and showed surprising speed. Just 26, Johnson is slated to be Atlanta's leadoff hitter in 2008 and should be a mainstay in their lineup for the next few years. Not bad for a converted OF who missed almost all of 2006 due to injury, eh?

The Braves plan to use utilityman Omar Infante as their backup 2B (and have him occasionally spell Johnson against southpaws), but Infante broke his hand in winter ball and will be out until late April or early May. In the meantime, Martin Prado will be behind Johnson on the depth chart; he's a pretty solid fielder at second, but his total lack of patience, power, and speed make him a career reserve at best.


Third Base: One-half of the Braves' dynamic "Jones Bros." duo may have departed Atlanta over the winter, but old standby Chipper Jones is still around for a 15th year in the ATL. Chipper was uncharacteristically healthy in 2007, amassing 500 AB for the first time in 4 years, but he's a good bet to be among the NL's best at the plate even if he has one of his typical injury-shortened campaigns. Jones' OBP has dipped below .400 just once in the last 10 seasons, and he's just a phenomenal all-around hitter from both sides of the plate; watching him swing the bat is like watching poetry in motion. He's also still a capable fielder at third, although his range is slipping. The only question at this point is whether Chipper has a few more healthy seasons like '07 left in the tank, which would probably be required if he wants to make a serious bid at the Hall of Fame.

Upon his return, Infante will also be the primary backup here; his primary asset is his defensive versatility as an infield reserve, but he also has some pop and isn't a bad baserunner. Prado is also capable of playing third in a pinch.


Shortstop: Although Edgar Renteria enjoyed a great season in 2007, hitting .332/.390/.470, the emergence of Yunel Escobar a year ago ultimately made Renteria expendable -- so over the winter Wren dealt him to Detroit for a pair of prospects. Escobar is still raw, and he's a very strong candidate to regress to the mean in his second big-league season (a small 355-PA sample and a .364 BABIP say he's not hitting .326 again), but he's still a decent contact hitter and he does take a good approach to the plate for a 25-year-old. He also has a strong arm and plays decent (if inconsistent) defense at short.

Besides, if Escobar proves to be a one-year wonder, there's always Brent Lillibridge. Lillibridge isn't quite as far along as Escobar in terms of plate patience and contact skills, but he's arguably the better long-term prospect because of his speed & defense. He's not exactly the next Rafael Furcal, mind you, but Lillibridge could pass Escobar on the depth chart and become an everyday player by 2009. In addition to their other infield duties, Prado and Infante round out the backups at SS.


Left Field: This position has definitely been a revolving door for the Braves ever since Chipper Jones moved back to third base in 2004, having been manned in the interim by such luminaries as Charles Thomas, Eli Marrero, Ryan Langerhans, a washed-up Brian Jordan, current Atlanta 2B Kelly Johnson, current backup 1B Scott Thorman, Willie Harris, and now Matt Diaz, who hit a BABIP-heavy .338/.368/.497 last year and is penciled in to start in 2008. An extremely impatient hitter with mediocre speed, merely average contact & power skills, and a poor understanding of the strike zone, Diaz isn't really anyone's idea of a permanent solution at LF. However, he is a surprisingly solid defender in left with a decent arm, and could be a bargain in the short run if he can somehow keep up that ridiculously high average on contact (he makes just $1.225 million in 2008).

If not, toolsy prospect Brandon Jones could make an impact here at some point during the 2008 season. Jones needs to work on his patience and pitch recognition skills (who doesn't?), but he has burgeoning power and loads of range, and is just 24 years old. Watch for him as an in-season call-up.


Center Field: For the first time since Kenny Lofton was roaming the outfield at Turner Field, this position doesn't belong to the incomparable Andruw Jones (for a retrospective on Jones' Atlanta career, click here). As of now, his replacement is 32-year-old Mark Kotsay, a former Oakland A whose chronic back problems have prevented him from being a productive hitter since sometime during the 2004 season. Kotsay's only skill at this point is making contact, but it's weak contact (he has subpar power and doesn't hit line drives anymore), and his speed is shot. Also, his defense in center, once a Kotsay specialty, is in steep decline. In other words, unless his back suddenly and miraculously improves, Kotsay is a huge downgrade from Andruw Jones.

Which brings us to the backups, who will invariably see more than their share of action this season when Kotsay is injured. Ex-Astro Josh Anderson is their primary CF reserve, which is bad news for the Braves, because he's not very good. Yes, he hit .358 in extremely limited action last season, but it was a fluky performance driven by a .393 BABIP -- in reality, he's a one-tool player (a burner) with no patience, no power, and merely passable defensive skills. Atlanta also has Gregor Blanco in center, and they would do well to pencil him in ahead of Anderson on the depth chart. Blanco doesn't quite have Anderson's speed, but he's a more mature hitter who will take a walk every now and then. Of course, Kotsay, Anderson, and Blanco are all placeholders for Jordan Schafer, Andruw Jones' heir apparent in CF. Schafer is still probably a year away from The Show (he's only 21), but like Jones at that age, he is already a top-flight defender, has good speed, and is developing patience and power at an early age. He projects to be Atlanta's long-term answer in center starting in 2009 -- which is good, because the outlook isn't very good for this position in the short-term.


Right Field: Ladies and gentlemen, Jeff Francoeur is about to make "The Leap". Once overrated by tools hounds who fixated on his cannon arm and raw strength while ignoring his lack of patience and whiff-happy tendencies, Frenchy seems like he's finally on the verge of becoming a legit star in 2008. Why? It's simple: the 24-year-old's approach at the plate continues to improve every season. Last year, he sliced his K rate while maintaining his power, increasing his walk rate, and seeing more pitches than ever. The indicators for a breakout are there, and he is at an age where it wouldn't be surprising at all for the proverbial "light bulb" to suddenly turn on, resulting in a big season. Expect 30+ HR with little decline in batting average and increased walks.

Behind Francoeur are Anderson and Jones, as well as Marlins castoff Joe Borchard, a righty-mashing Three True Outcomes type who can't even hit righties anymore and whose contact rates make Adam Dunn look like Tony Gwynn.

Pitchers

Rotation: Staff ace John Smoltz is back for his 20th ML season, and he has shown no signs of slowing down so far -- he's tossed 200+ innings every year since returning to the rotation full-time in 2005, and had a vintage Smoltz season last year: 8.6 K/9, 2.1 BB/9, and a 3.11 ERA. Of course, Smoltz is also 41 years old and has complained of shoulder tightness during the spring, so there are definite risk factors associated with him being your #1 starter and rotation anchor. But if he stays healthy, Smoltz's deep repertoire of pitches (including a great slider and a nasty splitter) and tremendous command make him one of the best starters in baseball.


Number 2 in Atlanta's rotation is Tim Hudson, who, after a pair of "off" seasons (by his standards), seemed to finally find his old Oakland form last year. Hudson had spent the past two seasons hampered by oblique problems, but last year his velocity returned and his trademark sinking FB was back to inducing groundouts right and left. One warning sign going forward is that he allowed an abnormally low number of HR per fly ball, but aside from the inevitable regression that will come with a few more of those flies finding the stands, Hudson ought to be one of the NL's best starters in 2008.


Here's where the questions begin... Atlanta's 3rd starter is beloved prodigal son Tom Glavine, who returned this offseason after a 5-year stint with the rival Mets. Glavine's 2007 was a typical year for him -- until the season's final week, that is. Glavine gave up 6 ER in 5 innings vs. Washington on 9/25, and infamously capped off the Mets' historic collapse on 9/30 by allowing 7 runs in 0.1 IP (that's one out, folks) against Florida. Considering those performances, his advanced age (42), and his falling K-rate, Glavine could be totally washed up at this point. On the other hand, Glavine's gotten by with barely any stuff for years now, and he still has pinpoint control, great feel, and superb command of his three pitches (fastball, change, curve). In short, Glavine could be a disaster, but he could just as easily be one of the better 3rd starters in the league. We simply won't know until the season starts.


Mike Hampton is allegedly the 4th starter, but nobody's really expecting anything at this point from a guy who hasn't pitched in an ML game in more than two years. If he's healthy, Hampton is not a bad pitcher; he's a sinkerballer who induces tons of grounders and helps himself out by fielding and hitting better than the typical pitcher. But how much will rust be a factor? And can he even stay healthy for any amount of time? Because of these concerns, chances are that Hampton won't be much of a factor ever again. Anything Atlanta gets out of him this season is gravy.


So, realistically speaking, Chuck James will be the fourth man in the rotation. James is coming off of his own injury problems (a rotator cuff tear), but he's coming along nicely this spring, and could even be in the rotation at the start of the season. James is a flyball pitcher, pure and simple, a fastball-changeup guy whose ERA largely depends on how many balls he can keep in the park. On the plus side, James is due for a HR/FB% correction, which should help a lot. On the minus side: no more Andruw Jones shagging flies in CF. All things considered, if James can show some durability and go 6 innings more than he goes 5, the Braves will be happy.


The final starting slot will probably go to Jair Jurrjens, who came over in the Renteria trade. Jurrjens is a finesse type who probably could use more seasoning in MiLB, but Atlanta's situation will likely dictate that he starts the year with the big club. He's got solid control over three average pitches -- a low-90s fastball, a curve, and a changeup -- and did reasonably well for himself last season as a 21-year-old seeing his first MLB action. If Jurrjens does in fact start the year in AAA, the battle for the final spot in the rotation will be between Jo-Jo Reyes (who showed adequate stuff but no command en route to a 6.22 ERA last year), Jeff Bennett (a groundballer who hadn't pitched since 2004 before the Braves used him in '07), and Buddy Carlyle (a swingman whose decent stuff and control have always been betrayed by his flyballing tendencies).


Bullpen: After the erratic Bob Wickman was released, the electric Rafael Soriano was named Atlanta's closer down the stretch -- and he performed well in the role, allowing zero HR and just 3 walks in almost 16 innings to close the season. Heisted from Seattle in a particularly one-sided 2006 trade, Soriano is a dominant pitcher with elite stuff, aside from his unpleasant tendency of allowing home runs (1.5/9 IP last year). HR/FB% says he'll rebound in that department, but there are still lingering concerns about his arm after elbow and shoulder problems in the 3 years prior to his arrival in Atlanta. If he's healthy, though, Soriano has the potential to be a great closer, which could make the Braves bullpen (who finished 2nd in relief ERA a year ago) even better in '08.


Setting up Soriano will be Peter Moylan, a sidearming Aussie who was simply lights out in 2007 (1.80 ERA). His trick delivery makes him a nightmare for righthanded hitters, especially when it comes to his nasty slider, and he gets great velocity (90-94 MPH) on his fastball as well. Clearly he's not going to put up an ERA in the ones again, but he has the command and heavy stuff to keep on groundballing and be a real asset in the Braves' pen.


Beyond those two, it's anybody's guess as to who will step forward and assume important relief roles for Atlanta. Tyler Yates has good stuff and pitched better than his ERA would indicate (BABIP and strand rate were rough on him) last year. Lefty Will Ohman is a decent (albeit wild) arm, provided he can overcome his shoulder problems of a year ago. Royce Ring is another southpaw with good stuff but control and durability concerns. Manny Acosta has a serious wild streak, but could be useful if he improves his command. Blaine Boyer, who was a solid option for the Braves in 2005 but has lost 2 seasons to a shoulder injury, is also in the mix here, provided his command returns. Finally, would-be setup man Mike Gonzalez, a power lefthander who lost most of 2007 to TJ surgery, could be back after the All-Star break -- although his trademark control problems will probably make a full comeback before the rest of his stuff does.

2008 Outlook

The New York Mets are the team to beat in the 2008 NL East, that much became clear the moment they acquired NL Cy Young favorite Johan Santana from the Minnesota Twins in January. But if 2007 proved anything, it was that the NL playoff race is wide open -- excluding the three division leaders, no fewer than six other teams were still in the Wild Card picture entering the final week of the regular season. That parity should be the NL's defining characteristic again in 2K8, as the same nine teams (New York, Atlanta, Philadelphia, Chicago, Milwaukee, San Diego, Arizona, Los Angeles, and Colorado) look to fight over the league's four playoff spots for the second straight season. And aside from New York, there's no real dominant team which jumps out at you, which means that Atlanta has just about as good a chance as anybody to capture that coveted wild card berth. Yes, starting pitching is a problem area for the team, and yes, there are some holes in the lineup. But the Braves also possess a legendary manager, a top-notch offense, and a solid bullpen, so they could be very dangerous if Glavine has just one good season left in the tank. In short, look for Atlanta to put up 85-90 wins and be right in the thick of the playoff race come September... just like the old days.

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RomiezzoLegend
600 days ago
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Nicely done, Davis. I really think the Braves are underestimated as well. I'd like to see them back in the playoffs again. It all depends on the health of the roster (excluding Mike Hampton because we all knew he was going to be injured anyway) and how well they can do against the 2 other big dogs in the NL East: the New York Mets and the Philadelphia Phillies. I'm assuming that if they're over .500 against both of them, then they will surely be in the playoffs.
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RomiezzoLegend
600 days ago
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Everyone is talking about how the Mets are going to do so well now that they have Johan Santana. Last time I checked, one player doesn't dramatically change a team. What changes a team in a huge way is how well a team can work coherently in order to win. It could turn out to be a positive effect, like the 2007 Colorado Rockies, or it could turn out to be a negative effect, like the... Miami Heat.

Sure, the Mets will do pretty well, assuming that they won't all suck in the last month of the season, and sure, the Phillies have a better bullpen, I guess (and Chase Utley starting fresh), but you have to be on your toes when it comes to the Braves because now they have Tom Glavine and John Smoltz (I know that's going to be an upgrade for both of them since they have worked together for so long; maybe since Smoltz has been more dominant than Glavine these last couple of years, he can give Glavine a few pointers), Chipper Jones still has a couple of years left in him, McCann should have a much more productive year than last year, the rookies are coming up, Jeff Francoeur is getting better as years go by...

There are just so many things you can say about the Braves that you could use to argue that either the Phils, Mets, or even both won't make the playoffs this year.
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KelsdadAll-Star
600 days ago
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I concur, Davis. Nicely done. Great detail reflecting alot of research. I do believe however, come November we will both look back at the Braves season and point to this article as the highlight.
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Davis21wylieMVP
600 days ago
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Ouch! I dunno, the NL is going to be wide open. Like I said, it just depends on the pitching, and you know that Bobby Cox always finds some random guys who can give him innings. Atlanta's situation is actually pretty similar to the Phillies, in terms of having a nice offense (PHI is a bit better, but still) and some pitching questions. But, pending health, I actually think ATL is a leg up on Philly in the pitching department, both in terms of starters and relievers (who knows what you're going to get from Brad Lidge). Those two are pretty evenly matched, and while I think NY will be dominant like they were in '06, Atlanta and Philly are not appreciably better or worse than any of the other NL "contenders". We'll see, though. That's why they play the games!
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RomiezzoLegend
600 days ago
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I definitely agree with you on the fact that ATL and Philly both have equal shots of making the playoffs. I honestly think Philly's offense is a little better. They have Chase Utley (better than Kelly Johnson), Ryan Howard (I'll say that he and Teixeira are equal, Howard has more power, but Teixeira can hit for average better), Jimmy Rollins (better than Yunel Escobar), Shane Victorino (I'd say he will do better than Mark Kotsay this year), Pat Burrell (he has better power numbers than Matt Diaz, but Diaz hits a lot better for batting average), and so on. If those big 3, JRoll, Utley, and Howard, don't do as well or better than they have for past year (or two years), then I'd say the Braves will take it.

The Braves are relying on two older vets, and one guy who is in his prime, to pitch. Tom Glavine is a big question mark, and who knows how much Smoltz has left in him. I still think that Smoltz and Hudson will do well, but not as well as last year. The offense better come up big because other than those three pitchers, the starting rotation isn't that great. But then again, look at the Phillies' rotation. Kendrick has been said to be a question mark now. The white Satchel Paige? I don't know how much he has left in him. Cole Hamels? Seems to be the Tim Hudson of the Phillies.\

I've come to a conclusion that they're pretty much even. I can't wait to see what's going to happen as we go along in the season.
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Bobbyjim45Draft Pick
600 days ago
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Real good detailed work, Davis. But I think the Braves will be playing golf in October.
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Cougar2000All-American
585 days ago
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In the immortal words of Lee Corso, "Not so fast, my friend!"
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KelsdadAll-Star
600 days ago
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You guys both make excellent and accurate references to the similarities between the three teams, but have overlooked the one intangible factor in winning championships...defense.

The Braves losing Andruw Jones' 40 HR is one thing in itself, and despite being overrated defensively is still a far better option than Mark Kotsay. And, both Beltran and Aaron Rowand were better as well. And the loss of Rowand will hurt the Phils too, but not as much as losing Andruw will for the Braves, because Rowand didn't hit 40 bombs.

On a position by position basis, the only places in which the Braves have a decided advantage are first base, Teixeira is a gold glover, the other two guys are butchers, and right field. Utley, Reyes AND Rollins, Wright, Beltran are better options.

So not only will the Braves not score as many runs as New York and Philly, they won't prevent as many either.
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RomiezzoLegend
600 days ago
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I definitely agree with you there. Defense is definitely overlooked, and I'm glad I saw your comment about it here. Andruw Jones' range is still up there. In fact, he actually gained weight and his range increased by .10! I thought his defense would've sucked. I guess that's why he won a gold glove last year as well. His fielding percentage was still very high, and he committed only 2 errors during the entire 2007 season. CRAZY! Also, with him being a player for the Braves for 11 years and with him leaving the organization just like that, I'm sure guys who have been there for a while, like Chipper Jones, John Smoltz, etc. aren't too happy about that. Correct me if I'm wrong, but he seems to be a guy that could somehow boost a team roster's spirit up, with him being on the team for over a decade.

Rowand, on the other hand, was on the Phillies, and boy, did he do good with the Phillies both defensively and offensively. Only 2 errors, with a range factor of 2.50, and a .995 fielding percentage. Losing a guy with such great defense along with someone you can rely on to drive in runs (.306, 27 homers, 89 RBIs) who is not even in the heart of your lineup is definitely hard to lose. He was clutch, hitting .333 in the 8th inning, an OBP of .408 in the 9th, a batting average of .357 and OBP of .471 in extras, and hitting at least .293 with RISP (.382 when it was late and close). Losing someone who could produce runs along with great defensive skills is definitely sad to see.

Then you have Beltran. His offense is getting iffy, but he's still doing good on defense. He was definitely gold glove material (his range was a key factor as to why he won it; 2.80) but his fielding percentage was a little lower than Rowand's and Jones'. He's definitely going to stick around with the Mets, and prove that he's a good all around player. He's a decent example of a 5 tool player (you could make an argument about the batting average tool, but other than that, not really much else). He seems pretty confident that the Mets will take it this year, but to me, it's up in the air.

That's only CENTERFIELDERS! Then we get to Teixeira (gold glover): much better than Howard or Delgado. Rollins (gold glover): better than Reyes, who is still a pretty good shortstop when it comes to defense (you can't judge Escobar on only 50 games, but Escobar seems to all right on D). David Wright is an excellent defensive third basemen, and he beats Chipper's range, and who? Abraham Nunez? PFFFFFF...

Chase Utley is top notch in everything, including defense. However, Luis Castillo is as well. You can't take him out of the equation. And Kelly Johnson? Ehh... not really the best.

But yeah, there are lots of other factors for these three teams that you can't even look up. For one, there's (what's the word I'm looking for?) payback.. maybe? Or the desire to win. The Mets are determined to win the division now more than ever. There's... like I said before... team chemistry. How well can you work together to win games? The team that is in sync more than the other teams will probably go on to win the division... if not, clinch the wild card. There's more that I can't name off the top of my head, but yeah... offense, defense, pitching, whatever. It's the NL East. A pretty exciting division to say the least. ;)
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Davis21wylieMVP
600 days ago
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Ah, but the Braves had a significantly better defense than Philly last year, and it wasn't just Andruw's doing (you said it yourself, his D was declining anyway). This year Escobar is gonna be solid, Teixeira is a gold glover, McCann is very good, Johnson's going to improve in his second year as starting 2B... They're not going to fall off much defensively, and they were 7th-best in baseball a year ago.
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RomiezzoLegend
600 days ago
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The only reason Jones was "overrated" (I personally don't think he was) is because of the fact that he was fat. He wasn't as agile as he used to be, or maybe he wasn't in ESPN's top 10 plays 3 times a week like he used to be. However, he still does very good at center field. His defense shows it.


Anyways, yeah, I would definitely give the edge to the Braves this year. I'm not too sure about Kelly Johnson. It's only his second year at second base. I think he needs a little more experience than that. He wasn't even a second baseman in the minors; he played shortstop, 3rd base, and outfield. McCann is good too. I forgot to mention him.
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Cougar2000All-American
600 days ago
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Signing Teixeira is of the utmost importance to the Braves, along with keeping Chipper healthy. If Glavine and Smoltz are half as good as they were in their glory days, the National League East WILL be in the hands of the residents of 755 Hank Aaron Drive.
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RomiezzoLegend
600 days ago
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Well, of course, if Glavine and Smoltz were able to reclaim an age around late 20s or early 30s, I'm sure the Braves would probably even make it to the World Series because they were just that good. However, they cannot do that. What's done is done. It's going to be a lot tougher for them to get healthy. They're a lot slower, and it's going to be a lot more difficult for them to go into late innings. I'm not saying they won't, but it'll definitely take its toll on them, if you know what I mean. Plus, they've got Tim Hudson, like said above, so they're not alone. Let's see how they do.
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Davis21wylieMVP
600 days ago
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I'd say the Braves have one of the biggest risk/reward rotations in baseball... They have the potential to be really good if Hampton can give them anything, if Jurrjens turns out to be a LAIM, if Glavine and Smoltz rock steady, if Hudson's oblique doesn't act up again, etc. They also have the potential to be terrible if Smoltz finally ages, if Glavine is toast, if they can't find any adequate back-of-the-rotation starters, etc. So it's hard to get a definitive read on them because things could be really good, really bad, or anywhere in between.
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RomiezzoLegend
600 days ago
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And it shows in the standings: 2006: 79-83... 2007: 84-78... 2008: ???????????
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KelsdadAll-Star
600 days ago
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Florida will lose 100 games, no doubt. Washington however is much improved and is moving into a more hitter friendly park. It will come down to Washington and Atlanta for third place with 82-85 wins the expectation. If the Braves stay healthy, if Hampton contributes, if McCann rebounds, if they find a way to make up for losing Andruw's 40 HR, then yes, they can win the division. But, unlike Philly and New York, will need alot of help, because they are a notch below those two. I picked Washington for third based on one key, they have more ML ready players at Triple A than the Braves. A significant injury to a starter in Atlanta and they're toast.
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RomiezzoLegend
600 days ago
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I think you're underestimating the fact that all of the Braves players right now, Kels. I like your argument about Washington. I honestly don't think Florida will lose 100 games. They're much better than that in my opinion. They got rid of D-Train (good for them), and Miguel Cabrera (their only loss). Like the Braves (guys like Escobar, Jair Jurrjiens, Kelly Johnson, and Brian McCann), all the Florida Marlins players have gained one year of experience. Hanley Ramirez is just going to get better. So are Uggla, Jacobs, Olivo, Hermida, and Willingham.

Don't underestimate the Marlins either. I'm not saying they're going to win the division, but they're definitely a factor as to who is going to win the division this year.

Washington has the same situation going on. A lotta young talent. I think it all comes down to pitching for those two teams; the team that pitches better will get 4th place. Atlanta is definitely 3rd... at least.
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Davis21wylieMVP
600 days ago
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I think Washington is going to be improved, and with Acta they're one of the best-managed teams in the game. But right now their rotation is worse than Atlanta's even if the Braves' 1-2-3 have some injuries. I like Shawn Hill a lot, but he's got durability concerns, and after him who do they have? Matt Chico? Jason Bergmann? Odalis Perez? Tim Redding? I'm just not seeing it, at least in 2008. The Natties are going to be good in a few years, mind you, but they're not good enough to crack the Big 3 of the NL East in 2008.
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KelsdadAll-Star
600 days ago
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Davis, do you think the Nats would have just up and released John Patterson without the knowledge at least one of their minor league guys was ready? And they will score ALOT more than they did last year partly because of the offseason moves, (and the return of Nick Johnson) and partly because of the new park.

The 5-4 losses last year will be 6-5 victories this year.

And if you need an example of an average team overachieving themselves into the postseason, look no further than last years Diamondbacks.
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Davis21wylieMVP
600 days ago
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The let Patterson go because he still wasn't healthy and he had no stuff left after 2 years, and they were flat-out tired of waiting around for him. Maybe the kid(s) they give his spot to works out, maybe not. But it was more about Patterson not being anywhere near 100% after surgery upon surgery than anything his replacement will do.

And why exactly will the 5-4 losses become 6-5 wins? Do park effects suddenly only apply to the home team?

Sure, I suppose they could get lucky like the D-Backs did... but truth be told, they aren't as talented as those D-Backs, they don't have anyone like Brandon Webb in their rotation, and they simply aren't going to finish any better than 4th in the East.
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RomiezzoLegend
600 days ago
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The stronger your pitching is, the better off you'll be in the season, at least that's what I think. That's why I was stunned when Kelsdad said that the Nats would finish 3rd. The Braves have a much better and more experienced pitching staff than the Nats. Sure, the Nationals have guys like Zimmerman and Dmitri Young, and some good pitching, but nothing compared to what the Braves have.
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KelsdadAll-Star
600 days ago
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Patterson had made three spring training starts with no ill effects. He had one great outing, (3 IP, 1 H, 7 K's), one decent and got rocked once. I agree they had grown tired of waiting but when healthy is still a pretty good pitcher.

My point is the Nats will score more runs, whether they score more than they allow remains to be seen.

DBacks ain't all that, Davis. Lucky, yes, talented, let's just say those expecting a repeat shouldn't bet their life savings.
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Davis21wylieMVP
600 days ago
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All I know is that Bowden's official explanation was not simply the injury-proneness, but also that he was never going to go back to his '05 form:

"After watching Patterson pitch for the last month, Bowden (and the club) became convinced he just wasn't going to regain his velocity and command to a point where he was a better option than some of the other younger pitchers in camp (ie. John Lannan, Matt Chico). Patterson insisted he was healthy all along, but the fact his fastball never surpassed 87 mph was a sign to the Nats that things weren't going to improve for a long time.

'We believe he had better stuff last season [when he was 1-5 with a 7.47 ERA],' Bowden said. 'We hoped we could get him back, and it just never came.'


'We've done everything we could possibly do. He just never got the stuff back.'"
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KelsdadAll-Star
600 days ago
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Touche'

Funny Bowden used the reference to his radar readings. I was at the Royals/Brewers game last night and Hideo Nomo pitched two 1-2-3 innings for the Royals and maxed out on the gun at....87mph.

Eric Gagne pitched for the Brew Crew and maxed out at 93. He got lit up, double, rocket line drive out to right, rocket line out to second and warning track fly ball to left. Gonna be a long year for the Brewers unless they find themselves a closer.
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Davis21wylieMVP
600 days ago
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Nomo, that guy's got more lives than a cat...
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KelsdadAll-Star
600 days ago
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Do you think Hanley is that good, or did he benefit from Miggy? I think he benefitted from Cabrera, his numbers will crash this year. Florida's offense was built around him, his leaving Florida may have the most impact on any transaction this offseason, even more so than Johan going to New York or Dan Haren to Arizona. I just don't see Florida being competetive.
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Davis21wylieMVP
600 days ago
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Hanley may have benefited from hitting ahead of Cabrera in the 39 games they were 3-4 in the lineup, but Ramirez was more often than not (112 games) hitting with several players in between himself and Cabrera. So I don't see his numbers dropping because of anything but regression to the mean -- he's 24, not even in his prime yet, and was one of the best offensive players in baseball last year. You can knock his D at short all you want, but don't write off his magnificent season at the plate as merely the byproduct of protection.
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KelsdadAll-Star
600 days ago
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Protection isn't limited to just the guy in front of you or the guy behind you, and I agree with your assessment. Juan Pierre gets 200 hits a season and he's one of the more unproductive players in the game. I don't see Hanley having as many RBI opportunities, he won't score as many runs, and he will likely draw more walks. So while he may still have 216 hits or whatever it was, everything else will come down. Bet on it.
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RomiezzoLegend
600 days ago
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I see what you mean, Kelsdad, about not having Cabrera on the roster. However, the Marlins always find a way to come back. Who knows? Maybe one of those Tiger prospects they got from that trade could pull off another Hanley Ramirez. Remember Lowell & Beckett? Yeah, after they won the '03 World Series, the Marlins gave them up when teams' demands for them went way up due to the fact that they won a World Series. The Red Sox took advantage of that, and the Marlins ended up getting a player whose salary is just over $400,000! Incredible what they can do, huh? I bet you that we're gonna see Cameron Maybin as a pretty big candidate for Rookie of the Year if he stays in the Majors.
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KelsdadAll-Star
600 days ago
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Maybin would have been a ROY candidate in the AL too.
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Niteowl049AAA-er
600 days ago
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Davis...You have a great future in writing. Your article is one of the best team outlooks I have read anywhere. I agree Texeira is much better than Thorman and Thorman had his chance last season and couldnt' do anything with it. Since none of the backup cathcers the last I knew was hitting that great I wouldn't be surprised to see Lopez get the job but he may not get it because he would command more money than the others unless he would play for less just to get on the team.
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TrizzAll-American
600 days ago
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great article, but simply put without solid pitching you wont do well in the MLB, its hard to fathom a sub .500 season for one of the leagues most storied franchises but thats pretty much how i envision it
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RomiezzoLegend
600 days ago
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The Braves were just above .500 last year, and they were able to do this with only two good pitchers in the rotation: John Smoltz and Tim Hudson. Then you have Glavine (question mark), James, Jurrjiens (who is gaining experience in the MLB), and Mike Hampton.

Hampton? Do NOT depend on him giving you any good outings with him not being healthy for a VERY long time. James? He did well in 2006 with a 3.78 ERA and an 11-4 record. If he gives the Braves those kind of numbers from a number 4 starter, they should do well.

There are a lot of question marks with these teams in the NL East? How will Johan do in the NL? Will his numbers still decline like last year, stay the same, or will he do better than ever?

What about Pedro? How will he do a full season off the DL?

Kyle Kendrick? Can he put up the numbers that he contributed to the Phils last year?

Moyer? Will he still be able to pitch well even though he's 45 years old?

And then that brings all of these Braves questions that everyone's talking about here.

Don't even get me started with all of these new Marlins and Nationals pitchers? If only I knew enough about them...
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TaddoSoccer Kid
600 days ago
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What about Matt DeSalvo? He is a pitcher from Marietta College that started a couple games for the Yankees last year?
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Niteowl049AAA-er
598 days ago
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It is ironic that the Braves seem to have a healthy Mike Hampton ready to start the season and now John Smoltz may go on the DL. Will be interesting to see who gets the bulk of the time in center.
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Cougar2000All-American
597 days ago
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Romiezzo, I saw Hampton pitch Sunday against Houston and he looked pretty good. Granted, he did give up a couple of homers (one to Hunter Pence) but he didn't struggle.
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Davis21wylieMVP
596 days ago
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It did look like Hampton's stuff and command were almost back, didn't it? If he adds anything positive this year, I really think it could be what Atlanta needs to return to the playoffs.
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