The Detroit Pistons are the Laziest Team in the NBA

I think that teams win inspite of Flip Saunders not because of Flip Saunder.

How many NBA Finals appearances does Saunders have?

Don't underestimate the Pistons... especially when they seem to be the "underdog" in the situation. I honestly think that since Billups, Rip, and 'Sheed have been in situations like this before, they'll come up on top. I'm still going with the Pistons (my pick right before the playoffs started to win the whole thing).

"Underdog" is in quotes because of the fact that many people believe they're going to lose.

Pistons over Magic in 7.

Oh, and as far as the breaking up is concerned, I could definitely see it happening... if they lose.

It comes down to the role players on the Magic and how Howard is defensed. If Howard can command a double team he will open up the 3 ball for Turkalo and the those guys. However if Sheed and compandy can handle Howard even if its only in spurts with single coverge, it could be trouble for the magic

No.

I underestimate them because of their laziness.....who will stop Howard in the paint? Wallace? Maxiell? You've got to be kidding me.

The other thing I notice is that their game 1 loss to Philly at home makes it 5 out of their last 6 playoff series (the one is when they swept Orlando last season...then young, inexperienced, and without Rashard Lewis) in which they have lost at home.

Considering Orlando has a great road record....

oh and on another note...how about Tulo quad injury you think he'll be back at 100% at all this season

Well, you can never go wrong with picking the two #1 teams... BEFORE the postseason starts. The Celtics are in deep trouble FYI, as they're going to play the Hawks in a game 7. If the Celtics aren't able to win against the Hawks (a #8 seed), how the heck can you possibly pick them to beat a team like the Cavaliers (who they'll face IF they beat the Hawks). I wouldn't be surprised if it was the LBJ show all over again. They're in a deeper situation than the Pistons right now, as the Pistons secured a spot in the Conference Semifinals already. The Pistons definitely have what it takes, they just don't have their minds straight. They have experience in the playoffs and players who have the potential to lead the team (Billups, Sheed, and Rip). Both Flip and Doc aren't doing good jobs of coaching their respective teams; it's basically the players coaching themselves from what I hear.

The Pistons should not be underestimated. Any game can change completely in a couple of minutes. As the Pistons are definitely in the Semifinals of the Eastern conference, they started on a new sheet of paper, as they face the Magic. The C's are just one victory from being eliminated, and to be honest, I wouldn't be surprised if the Celtics were eliminated. The Hawks have a lot of momentum going into this next game (winning 3 of the last 4 games will usually give a team momentum).

What I'm trying to say is: Don't underestimate the Pistons. They're still a good team; they just have a little bump in the road when it comes to controlling the game, and getting their act together. I'm still saying the Pistons will end up in the Finals due to the fact the Pistons have a better chance of learning from their mistakes than the Celtics do.

Quote by you "Any game can change completely in a couple of minutes." if your saying that to the Piston, I can """EASILY" say the same for the Boston Celtics. Piston (Billups, Sheed, and Rip) are amazing, but don't forget about (Paul Pierce, Kevin Garnett & Ray Allen) they can just beat the Atlanta Hawks and can beat the Cleavland Cavaliers. My guess for the Final is between Celtics vs. Lakers or Pistons vs. Lakers.

"""Easily"""

Maybe you didn't look at the context in that part of my comment: "The Pistons should not be underestimated. Any game can change completely in a couple of minutes. As the Pistons are definitely in the Semifinals of the Eastern conference, they started on a new sheet of paper, as they face the Magic."

When I said that, I meant to say that in a game, things can change. Veterans on a team can help lead their team to a victory by helping the younger guys do better. The Celtics, on the other hand, have a lot more problems than just helping the younger guys do better (if there ARE any younger guys... jk). When the Pistons lost against the 76ers by 20 in game 3, the Pistons didn't panic because they knew that they had a couple more chances to prove that they are the better team. You want to know what happened during the next game, the Pistons beat the 76ers by 17. The four Piston vets (Sheed, Rip, Billups, and Tayshaun) scored 67 points, and the Pistons killed 76ers in assists (27-13). They proved that teamwork and team chemistry is definitely key when it comes to the playoffs. Also, the 76ers scored only 81 points that day, which means that their defense was heating up too. Then, in game 5, after the Pistons had some momentum, guys from their bench, like Amir Johnson and Antonio McDyess, stepped up big. Again, the Pistons killed them in the assists category (28-12). That's probably why they were in sync during their last 3 games: they had their mind set. That's exactly what they need to win games in the playoffs. Even though they have some minuses (a sucky coach for the playoffs, players getting older, etc.), they can still overcome all of this and win.

You obviously don't know who Joe Johnson and Josh Smith are if you wanna talk about how the Celtics have Paul Pierce, KG, and Ray Allen. Let's talk about last night's game, shall we? Ray Allen, the so called "best 3 point shooter in the league" was 1 for 8 from beyond the arc. Yeah, that's how clutch he is. James Posey had a hotter hand than he did. They lost by 3, and one 3 would've tied the game. Imagine that. The Hawks have a lot of young talent, and they're using it to the best of their ability. Plus, the Celtics had games 3 and 4 won. They just weren't able to stop Smith, Johnson, Bibby, and Childress. I would definitely say that Woodson knows what he's doing... at least more than Doc Rivers. With the Boston Three Party, Tony Allen, James Posey, and Rajon Rondo - never mind that... let's just go with what you said: just Pierce, KG, and Ray Ray - the Celtics should EASILY beat the Cavaliers, right? Well, how come they're not beating the Hawks? The #8 seed! A team that was under .500 in the regular season (37-45)!

Maybe you didn't look at the context in that part of my comment: "The Pistons should not be underestimated. Any game can change completely in a couple of minutes. As the Pistons are definitely in the Semifinals of the Eastern conference, they started on a new sheet of paper, as they face the Magic."

When I said that, I meant to say that in a game, things can change. Veterans on a team can help lead their team to a victory by helping the younger guys do better. The Celtics, on the other hand, have a lot more problems than just helping the younger guys do better (if there ARE any younger guys... jk). When the Pistons lost against the 76ers by 20 in game 3, the Pistons didn't panic because they knew that they had a couple more chances to prove that they are the better team. You want to know what happened during the next game, the Pistons beat the 76ers by 17. The four Piston vets (Sheed, Rip, Billups, and Tayshaun) scored 67 points, and the Pistons killed 76ers in assists (27-13). They proved that teamwork and team chemistry is definitely key when it comes to the playoffs. Also, the 76ers scored only 81 points that day, which means that their defense was heating up too. Then, in game 5, after the Pistons had some momentum, guys from their bench, like Amir Johnson and Antonio McDyess, stepped up big. Again, the Pistons killed them in the assists category (28-12). That's probably why they were in sync during their last 3 games: they had their mind set. That's exactly what they need to win games in the playoffs. Even though they have some minuses (a sucky coach for the playoffs, players getting older, etc.), they can still overcome all of this and win.

You obviously don't know who Joe Johnson and Josh Smith are if you wanna talk about how the Celtics have Paul Pierce, KG, and Ray Allen. Let's talk about last night's game, shall we? Ray Allen, the so called "best 3 point shooter in the league" was 1 for 8 from beyond the arc. Yeah, that's how clutch he is. James Posey had a hotter hand than he did. They lost by 3, and one 3 would've tied the game. Imagine that. The Hawks have a lot of young talent, and they're using it to the best of their ability. Plus, the Celtics had games 3 and 4 won. They just weren't able to stop Smith, Johnson, Bibby, and Childress. I would definitely say that Woodson knows what he's doing... at least more than Doc Rivers. With the Boston Three Party, Tony Allen, James Posey, and Rajon Rondo - never mind that... let's just go with what you said: just Pierce, KG, and Ray Ray - the Celtics should EASILY beat the Cavaliers, right? Well, how come they're not beating the Hawks? The #8 seed! A team that was under .500 in the regular season (37-45)!

Shoot! Sorry about the double post.

Its not always stats that predict the Future some times, Hawks can be #8 seed, however, they could be soo motivated while playing against the #1 in the east conference. any player can have their bad and good days, Ray Allen okay u could have gotten a 1-8 beyond the arc, but tell me how many does he have in his total career?

Out of 5291 shots 2100 went in giving him a .397 3p%, so tell me one game he could do crap, but he can still get his act together for other games! and in 2007/08 he has gotten 180 shots in from 452 with .398 3p% and in his career playing in the Playoffs he has gotten 124 shots out of 286 with a .434 3p%, I'm guessing he plays very good in playoff games, and has played in 5 playoff games.

Paul Pierce has gotten out 1239 3's of 3409 with a .363 3p%, and has played in 5 playoff games.

Kevin Garnett while playing NBA for 13 years he has scored 20378 points. Played in 9 playoff games.

I'm guessing that they are very experienced in how to play in the play off games.

"Its not always stats that predict the future sometimes."

Hmmm...

"Out of 5291 shots 2100 went in giving him a .397 3p%, so tell me one game he could do crap, but he can still get his act together for other games! and in 2007/08 he has gotten 180 shots in from 452 with .398 3p% and in his career playing in the Playoffs he has gotten 124 shots out of 286 with a .434 3p%, I'm guessing he plays very good in playoff games, and has played in 5 playoff games.

Paul Pierce has gotten out 1239 3's of 3409 with a .363 3p%, and has played in 5 playoff games.

Kevin Garnett while playing NBA for 13 years he has scored 20378 points. Played in 9 playoff games.

I'm guessing that they are very experienced in how to play in the play off games."

...And THESE aren't stats!

That just proves my argument. Even though Ray Allen is a great 3 point shooter, he sucked when the Celitcs needed him to shoot only ONE more 3 to tie the game.

since you were using stats to show your point, so I did the same. Because you were arguing about RAY stat on one game, and i wanted to show you how he played this year.

And I wanted to show you an example of how he plays in playoff situations and games where the Celtics needed him to shoot 3's. That's a major reason why he hasn't ever gotten past the Conference semifinals in the playoffs in his career.