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The Combine is Here

by Afraidofedhochuli
created February 21, 2008, last edited November 14, 2009
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From: http://www.afraidofedhochuli.com

If you are a fan of professional sports then you are probably a fan of the drama and the challenge that is reached each and every play.

That is what I love about sports and why I love the NFL Scouting Combine. What is the Combine?

My First answer: Very Entertaining.

My Second answer: Pointless.

Okay, hear me out.

Just one of the many drills at the Combine in Indianapolis.
Just one of the many drills at the Combine in Indianapolis.

The Combine brings together 300+ of the best college football players in the country and works them out in a standardized way. The Combine is to the Draft as the SATs are to college enrollment: standardized. But unlike the SATs, it is by invitation only.

There are a lot of problems with the Combine, though, and these problems come in to play with each of the individual evaluations.

The Events ( Wikipedia):

- 40 yard dash

- Bench press

- Vertical jump

- Broad jump

- 20-yard shuttle

- three-cone drill

- 60-yard shuttle

- Position-specific drills

- Interviews

- Physical measurements

- Injury evaluation

- Drug screen

- The Cybex test

- The Wonderlic Test

A few of these (vertical jump, 20-yard shuttle, three-cone drill, 60-yard shuttle) can show a lot of actual, good information. A lot of them show acceleration, breaking speed and stopping ability. The vertical jump shows just that: how high a player can jump. The position-specific drills, obviously shows the players skills at what they do.


But there are a few things that aren’t as useful as you would hope.

Let’s start with the 40-yard dash. This is a standard speed test, except that it is not in the format that would actually test a player’s “game speed”. It is set up to test their “track speed”.

ESPN made a list of the top scores on several of these tests since 2000.

The top 40 time? WR Jerome Mathis ran a 4.28 in 2005. He was then drafted in the 4th round by the Texans. Where is he now? 6th on the depth chart. As Mike Sando points out, so poignantly: “Thanks largely to injuries, he has more known arrests (one, this week, for allegedly choking his pregnant common-law wife) than NFL starts (zero).”

The Bench Press is one that you would expect would help with the choosing of players, right? The purpose is to see how strong a player is by lifting 225 pounds as many times as they can. If a Lineman is strong he will be able to block or break blocks, right? Ask Leif Larsen a DT who bench pressed 225 pounds 45 times (a record which has been tied but not broken) in 2000. His name links to the Bills (who drafted him in the 6th round) but good luck finding him on the depth chart. Of the top-6 since 2000, only one is a starter: Brodrick Bunkley DT in Philadelphia.

The Wonderlic has been attacked by a lot of skeptics due to the inability to actually judge a players on-field aptitude. The test is 12-minutes long with 50 questions and is used to judge someone’s intelligence. It is even used by some companies for potential employees.

Where the fault begins is that it is never 100% accurate. A player may be smart and fail or vice versa.

Good Score/Failed Player

Chris Weinke scored 32, Jason Maas 42, Akili Smith 37.

Bad Score/Good Player

Ben Roethlisberger scored 25, Antwaan Randle-El 17, Donovan McNabb 12, Dan Marino 14.

All of this aside, it is still fun to watch. It is great to watch these guys compete for the one thing that means the most to them: a shot.

I know where I will be all weekend.

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SSreportersLegend
631 days ago
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Spacing help?
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AfraidofedhochuliDraft Pick
631 days ago
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i got it. it takes me a minute. it looks fine when i put it in the field, then when i post it goes all wonky
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Tyrone BriggsHall of Famer
631 days ago
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The "Combine" is a stupid, pointless dog and pony show that should be terminated. Any team that cannot yet decide whether or not to draft a football player based upon actual on the field performance and is DEPENDING on the combine for decision purposes should be contracted from the NFL.
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AfraidofedhochuliDraft Pick
631 days ago
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how do you really feel?
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Tyrone BriggsHall of Famer
631 days ago
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LOL - I'm just waiting for Matt Millen to jump on the site and argue against me on the combine.
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Frank StevensonRed-Shirting
631 days ago
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I'm confused here:

Where is the 1. Catch a ball 2. Tackle someone 3. Run with the ball without getting tackled 4. Throw the ball Events???

Let me guess: Ryan Leaf and Rex Grossman scored the highest scores in combine history. That's just super!
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AfraidofedhochuliDraft Pick
631 days ago
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those are the Position-specific drills
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Frank StevensonRed-Shirting
631 days ago
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They should have to grow mullets
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False ProphetAll-Star
631 days ago
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The combine serves 4 purposes:

1. Entertainment for football junkies - self explanitory.

2. Evaluation of lesser known talent - NFL scouts don't have enough time between the end of their season and the Draft to watch sufficient film on EVERY player in the draft. That's just too much. The Combine allows players that aren't being looked at with quite as much detail to show that they deserve more attention. This also serves another purpose, that being it helps scouts plan out the rest of their time up until the draft. Players that perform well that were not being scouted as much get more attention, and players that were being scouted that were outperformed get less.

3. Responsibility. For most of the top athletes, school is either done forever, or an afterthought at this point. They're on their own, and have to decide where to train, how to train, what to eat, and how to manage their time. Players like LenDale White fall off the map at the combine because scouts see that he has a horrible work ethic and responsibility. Players that vastly underperform their expectations raise red flags for the scouts that the guy is not someone they can count on to take care of themselves throughout their careers, and are not worth the money.

4. Separating the future stars from the wanna-bes - This is not perfect. I get that. But each year, there is inevitably players that were one year wonders in college, or got hurt (Adrian Peterson), or were successful in a role that covers up the glaring flaws in some players (Houston QBs). Each of those groups has a specific thing that they need to prove. The one year wonders need to show that their latest success is indictative of their ability, and not of their team's or luck. If a player has a breakout year after 2 below average years, and say they're a WR, they will need to show that their hands are good, that they can jump high enough, and they have a maximum speed that is fast enough to play at the NFL level. For an Adrian Peterson, the combine is to show that the injury they sustained is not going to hold their careers back. If AP had a bad combine, there's no certainty he'd have been a first round pick, because it would show that he's not fully recovered, and they can't rely on him to be ready to go when camp starts up.

Ok, I lied, there's another reason:

5. Interviews - Coaches, Scouts, Execs all get to sit down with players. This is helpful in two ways: a) it allows them to find out who the player is, gauge his intellect, and find out anything else non-workout-related that they might want/need to know, and b) for future use. It allows them to get a file on the player with info about him, his physical ability, and everything else they can get from the process. If the guy is on the trading block, or is a free agent, the combine can prove a useful tool in knowing not to touch a guy, or to actively pursue him.

Sorry this is so damn long, there's just so much that people don't realize about the combine
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Tyrone BriggsHall of Famer
631 days ago
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I can shorten this for you:

The combine:

1. makes a cheap buck for the NFL.
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Frank StevensonRed-Shirting
631 days ago
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Tyrone did you score badly while participating at the combine? Damn are you the guy that broke his ankle 10 years ago, losing your draft pick, ending your football career, and sending you down the road to sticking your finger up people's butt in order to feed your family?
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Tyrone BriggsHall of Famer
631 days ago
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I slept in.....
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Frank StevensonRed-Shirting
631 days ago
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Was it a sleep competition at least?
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