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The ArmchairGM 2008 NBA Mock Draft

by SSreporters, Behbigben15, DRE-LO, MegECass110, Oh No Romo, False Prophet, Agent0, BigPPup, Fatherscott, Davis21wylie, Ibearg, Shrubbery, Coreyisarealboy, Jake The Snake, LASportsblog, and JuTMSY4
created June 23, 2008, last edited June 26, 2009
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Over the span of 3 days, those from across North America will try and be the GM for their respective NBA teams. Today, on ArmchairGM, it begins!

Welcome to the 2008 NBA Mock Draft on ArmchairGM, I'm SSR, (sadly) your host for this event. We have 28 NBA sides that have their picks ready, and 2 more sides without a first round draft pick vying to get one via the trade. Are you worse than Isiah as far as draft picks? Are you ready to have a future JJ Redick in your hands? Or are you going to have a Chris Paul or a Brandon Roy? This is your stop for AGM's first ever NBA Mock Draft where multiple users can get involved.


On the Clock: DONE!

Here are the important rules to remember folks:

1. Edit the page when you have made your pick so that it shows the player's name, position, school (or country), and below that, a paragraph to explain your reasoning.

2. As far as trades go, you can trade for picks, future draft picks (as in 2010 2nd rounder), cash, other players, rights to a European player, and of course, swapping draft picks. You must make your trade offers privately on message boards and BOTH of you have to agree, so no cheating!

3. Commenting: Heckle, praise picks, make immature jokes about balls, announce trades that have been confirmed, make fun of ESPN, if anyone wants to be Spike Lee that's fine, it's all just a mock draft anyway.

4. Once your pick is done, message the next user who is on the clock.

5. This is how the draft should go since we don't have as many users picking as we did in the NFL Mock Draft:

Monday: 1-10

Tuesday: 11-20

Wednesday: 21-30


The more picks are in, the more we are ahead of schedule, the better!




I think I've given you everything you need to know, so let the picks begin!



1. Chicago Bulls - Oh No Romo: Michael Beasley PF - Kansas State

I can't believe I'm picking a player who is 15 months younger than me. With the first pick in the NBA Draft, the Chicago Bulls select Michael Beasley, Power Forward from Kansas State University. This pick was a no-brainer for me, even if the current GM has no brain

As a post player, Beasley can get it done at both ends of the court. He put up the points, scoring 26 points per game, first in the Big 12 and third in the nation. He can also rebound, leading the nation in total rebounds.

Some suggest going with hometown guy, Derrick Rose. Rose didn't have the type of year that Beasley had.

Here's another stat to wrap your head around, Rose isn't as good of a free throw shooter. Rose shot 71% for the season, while Beasley shot 77% at the charity stripe.

Beasley does have some off-the-court issues, but he should be able to clean up his act

Beasley is a big man that the Bulls have needed for years. The last time they got this first pick, they used it on Elton Brand. The former Bull averaged 20-10 on his way to co-rookie of the year honors. I'm not saying that Beasley will have that kind of success early on, but for a team that hasn't had a solid post player since Brand, he's the right pick.

2. Miami Heat - Fatherscott: Derrick Rose PG - Memphis

The Heat select Rose, consensus top-2 pick, but have yet to release an official statement. Rose's camp is also mum; a trade may be in the works. Heat GM fatherscott weighed in on Rose minutes ago:

"Rose's successes and strengths are well-documented: fabulous NCAA tournament, leader of a great team, outstanding penetrator, blazing speed. In a league becoming ever-more point guard-focused, Rose's skills are a tremendous asset to any team. He's a tremendous player, that's all I can say right now."

3. Phoenix Suns (from Minnesota) - Kelsdad (Traded by False Prophet): Jerryd Bayless, PG, Arizona

The Suns will need a point guard ready to step in following next season when Steve Nash moves on. With O.J. Simpson Mayo not a true point guard, and with Leandro Barbosa now known by the name Leandro Barbusta, Bayless was the Suns best option here. Bayless has arguably the best combination of explosiveness and shot-creating ability of any guard in the draft. He is a solid offensive player, equally adept at hitting mid-range jumpers or driving through traffic to the basket. Bayless is not afraid to play inside, although at 6'3" is out of his element inside, he gets himself enough free throw attempts to balance off the occassional blocked shot or turnover. Defensively, he isn't strong enough to play against a taller SG, but is quick enough to handle the opposing PG. Bayless will learn for a year from one of the best in Steve Nash, and should be ready to take over the Suns potent offense in 2009-2010.


4. Miami Heat (from Oklahoma City) - Fatherscott (traded by SSR): OJ Mayo G - USC

We're thrilled with the way this went. Rose had tremendous value and while being a great prospect, we're a bit concerned that Chris Paul-mania has taken over and everyone is projecting any good PG as the next savior of a team. In other words, we think he's a tad overrated. I'm seeing Jason Terry every time I see Derrick Rose.

We believe OJ Mayo is the best prospect in this draft and are thrilled to get him at pick no. 4. There's no question he has the skills. The desire is tops among his peers. His work ethic is being praised in draft preparation.

As for team fit, a Mayo/Wade backcourt is explosive. Neither is necessarily a point, but we have a lot of reservations about any of the "point guards" in this draft being true points. We now have three great players -- Mayo, Wade, and Marion -- and some good role players. We removed the human detritus Mark Blount from our payroll, picked up an extra pick and get a contract-year performance from Chris Wilcox (who we will then release cause he's not all that great).

OJ Mayo and Dwyane Wade will form the backbone of a team that will contend in the East for the next ten years, starting in '08-09.

5. Memphis Grizzlies- SSR: Eric Gordon, G, Indiana

Memphis already has that solid big man position in there, with the ever reliable Kwame Brown.


Alright, jokes aside, I think Gordon is a very athletic kid, averaged 21 points per game as a freshman with Indiana. He can definitely shoot while drawing plenty of contact, he is very aggressive and can go to the line 20 times. What probably dropped his stock was his poor stretch in March, mainly in the game against Arkansas in the NCAA Tournament.

He gets his teammates involved quite often, and if he improves his shot selection, then he can become a good player in this league. He and Rudy Gay can definitely become one of the top young duos in the NBA.

6. Phoenix Suns (from New York by Kelsdad), traded by (Kelsdad) - Joe Alexander (SF/PF) West Virginia

Alexander is a 6'8" athletic forward, capable of playing both the three or the four. With the Suns needing a replacement for the traded Shawn Marion. Only true weakness is a lack of a consistent outside shot, working with new Suns assistant Dan Majerle should go far in improving that aspect of his game. "We are very happy with both the trade and with out picks," said acting Suns GM Kelsdad. "Working closely with my counterpart in New York made the whole process a smooth and enjoyable one, and both teams have significantly improved themselves."

7. Los Angeles Clippers - LASB - Kevin Love (PF) UCLA

With Alexander and Mayo off the board it seemed practical for us to look towards the future, while also adding important front court depth. With Love's skill set and passing ability we feel that if Elton Brand opts out he can slide in next to Al Thornton who will start to move to the 3 this season. If Brand stays Love becomes our top Big Man option off the bench giving us a myraid of options in the front court. We have tracked Love's pre-draft progress and he has taken all the needed steps to be a success at the next level and we are happy to welcome him to the Clipper fold.

When asked about the pick Stan Love commented: "We will be discussing a trade to another team soon with Mr. Gordon, Mr. Baylor and other GMs. We don't believe it is in Kevin's best interest to start his career with the Clippers; even though we love Los Angeles.

8. Milwaukee Bucks - Coreyisarealboy - Russell Westbrook (PG) UCLA

In an official release from the Bucks, GM Coreyisarealboy had this to say about the pick:

"Defense was a top priority for us heading into the draft. Though Westbrook is kind of a 'tweener guard, we were extremely impressed by his ability to defend both guard spots. We realize he needs some work in the half-court game and becoming a full-time point, but we felt too encouraged by his tremendous athleticism and upside to pass up the opportunity to add a talent like this to the Milwaukee Bucks organization.

We feel that with some seasoning, Russell can become the point guard of our future and see him as a terrific compliment to Michael Redd. We are extremely pleased to welcome Russell Westbrook to Milwaukee."

Word out of Bucks' Draft HQ is that they are "determined to add another first round pick" and are offering a package of any number of current players, their second round pick, and future first round considerations.

9. Charlotte Bobcats - SSreporters: Brook Lopez, C, Stanford

Lacking a true big man, Lopez seems to be a decent fit for the Bobcats. He and Emeka Okafor could be the 2 stars to look out for. He's a reliable rebounder, a good scorer, and his shooting from the foul line for a center is quite good.

Of course, the Bobcats front office is looking for an experienced big man and is willing to make a deal to give away Lopez for an Antonio McDyess type of big man.


10. New Jersey Nets- Ibearg: Marreese Speights, PF, Florida

With plenty of defense from the 4 and 5 spot and the 1-3 spots all but locked up the Nets where looking to add a scoring big with toughness up front. Speights averaged 14.5 points with 8 boards a game last year on a ridiculous 62% shooting. There are questions out there about his motor but with other options including Darrell Arthur (who he outperformed and has similar questions) and Anthony Randolph (who's rail thin) the Nets feel confident that Speights in the best choice here.

John Hollinger has him rated as the 4th best prospect overall which made them also feel better about the selection.

The Nets had considered trading the pick and still may make some moves involving their 21st pick as well as Vince Carter and some of their younger players like Marcus Williams in hopes of getting some cap space to enable Jay-z to lure Lebron here in 2010/2011 or other talent.

11. Milwaukee Bucks (from Indiana) - User:Coreyisarealboy (traded by SSreporters): Danilo Gallinari (SF/PF), Italy

In an official release from the Bucks, GM Coreyisarealboy had this to say about the trade and pick:

"First of all, we here at the Milwaukee Bucks organization would like to thank Pacers' GM SSreporters for making the trade promptly and professionally.

As for the trade itself, we are very happy to receive a talent like Jamaal Tinsley on board. We believe that he can be a valuable piece of this organization, as well as a veteran leader for our young stars.

What we really were after was the 11th pick and Danilo Gallinari. We addressed a need for an athletic defender with our first pick and worked really hard to be in position to pick up what we believe to be an extremely talented small forward. Though he is still unproven defensively against NBA talent, we feel that his intelligence and ball-handling skills for a 6-9 19-year-old swingman were impossible to pass up.

We are absolutely ecstatic to welcome Danilo to the Milwaukee Bucks organization and feel we've made strides, with both our picks thus far, in not only rebuilding but also creating a team that can contend immediately."

The Bucks certainly have some talent in their starting lineup, as raw as it may be. Alongside developed veteran leader Michael Redd at shooting guard, they will lineup Andrew Bogut at center, Yi Jianlian at power forward, Gallinari at small forward, and it looks like, with the trade of Mo Williams, Russell Westbrook will be given the point guard position.

Word is the Bucks are still shopping either Bobby Simmons or Desmond Mason for extra help in the front court, though it looks like their draft day is complete, having dealt away their second round pick.

12. Minnesota Timberwolves (drafted by Sacramento, then traded immediately to Minnesota) - (FP, traded by SSR): DJ Augustin, PG, University of Texas

To start, I will not deny I have become a trade whore. This is my 3rd draft day trade.

A summary of the transactions:

1) Minnesota trades the 3rd pick to Phoenix for the 15th pick and Alando Tucker.

In typical Minnesota Fashion they trade away a first round pick for a player they overvalue, but this time, they actually get a first round pick in return. At the very least, I think Tucker will be an upgrade over Brewer.

2) Minnesota trades the 15th pick, Corey Brewer, and Sebastian Telfair to Portland for the 13th pick, Joel Przybilla, Jarrett Jack, and the 33rd overall pick.

Then, the Wolves trade back up by swapping picks and players with Portland. Telfair and the 15th for Przybilla and the 13th seems like a shitty deal again, but Telfair plays about as poor as his contract was structured, and Minnesota needs a Center that actually deserves some playing time in the NBA, plus I never wanted the 15th pick, I wanted a pick around 12 to land Augustin, but SSR wasn't budging at that point. Long story short, Minnesota moves up, gets a center, and gets rid of a piss poor player and contract.

3) Minnesota trades Jarrett Jack, cash, and their 2009 first round pick for D.J. Augustin (drafted 12th overall).

This trade works out really well. I get 2 picks in the first round this year, the franchise's PG of the future, and get a good SF that will be better than Brewer or Tucker (see below). I get Augustin does not have the perfect body mold for a PG, but I don't care. He's led 2 good teams in College, and has proven, at least in my opinion, that if he can bulk up a bit, he'll make a good PG for years to come.


13. Minnesota Timberwolves (from Portland) - False Prophet (traded by Fatherscott): Brandon Rush, SF, University of Kansas

I get it. Alando Tucker is not the Small Forward of the future for the Wolves. It was originally supposed to be a move for an upgrade over Brewer. I wasn't counting on being able to pick up a SF in the draft, as Augustin was my target.

Since SSR wanted a pick in 09 for Augustin, I was free to pick up Rush. Rush was an instrumental part of Kansas' run in the NCAA tournament these two past years.

This draft has been great for the Wolves. They added a new PG in Augustin, a new C in Przybilla, and a new SF in Rush. With Jefferson as the PF and McCants at SG, I think the wolves are set for the future.

14. Golden State Warriors - SSR: Roy Hibbert, C, Georgetown

He's big, he's huge, he's a very smart basketball player, and he's the big man the Warriors need if they want to win 60 games and still miss the playoffs. In his last season he shot 60% from the field, Hibbert's soft touch around the rim is vital, and his rebounding is what the Warriors need. Hibbert is also a good defensive presence, mainly his ability to block shots.

Scoring in the paint is pivotal, and Hibbert brings that as well as a passable mid-range jump shot for someone that is 7'2. I mean, he's 1 of 1 from three point range.

The only concern I see is his foul trouble, but nothing more.


15. Portland Trailblazers (from Atlanta via Phoenix and Minnesota)- False Prophet (traded by Kelsdad and False Prophet) Robin Lopez, C, Stanford

Lopez isn't really an exciting pick, and he's more of a "need" pick than a best player available. We've got a glut of wing players (Roy, Webster, Jones, Brewer, Outlaw), which really leaves us thinking a backup center to Oden (now that we unloaded Przybilla's hilarious deal) or a point guard. Between Blake and Rodriguez (and I don't remember, but I think Rudy Fernandez can spend some time there too), we think the point is covered, so we're looking big man. Rather than deal with a project like Koufos, Ajinca, or Jordan, we'll grab Robin Lopez here. We like Lopez's hustle and think he'll provide a spark off the bench. He won't be asked to score -- ever -- he simply needs to get in there, bang around for a bit, grab some rebounds, and get out.

The real win for Portland on draft day was dumping our only burdensome contract. We also managed to pull in a player we think will be excellent (Brewer) and unload another young player who we weren't going to re-sign anyway (Jack).

16. Philadelphia 76ers - JuTMSY4: Darrell Arthur, PF, Kansas

Arthur adds a defensive and power presence to the Sixers rotation. Mo Cheeks has already turned the extreme athletic talents of Andre Igoudala and Thaddeus Young into a legit force in the NBA and now is his turn with the potentially disappointing Arthur. GM Ed Stefanski said that the 76ers would be unafraid to take risks and Arthur represents such a step, with the potential to be the next Antonio McDyess. With guys like Samuel Dalembert around him, Arthur appears to be in the ideal situation to succeed in the long run.

17. Toronto Raptors- Kelsdad: Donte Greene PF, Syracuse

Green is a 6'10" combo 3 & 4 with dynamic scoring and rebounding ability. A long wingspan gives Green an advantage under the offense and defensive glass, he can make a play even if he gets beat off the ball. He will immediately contend for a starting spot with Toronto and it shouldn't take long for him to be one of the main offensive options for the Raptors.

18. Washington Wizards-User:BigPPup Jason Thompson Pf, Rider

Thompson is a 6'11 power forward who can give the Zards a much needed physical presence. He has a strong body, more importantly he can score inside, something the Wiz need badly. The Andre Blatch experiment is not panning out, and no one knows how Eton will be once he returns. A new big will do the Wiz well.

19. Cleveland Cavaliers - False Prophet: Alexis Ajinca, PF, France

Not going to say much here, but this team is already a contender, and taking a project at PF is not going to be an issue. He'll be a good player to work on to help develop more talent around Lebron, and might end up being a good starter. There's not a lot of reliable players at this point in the draft, so I just picked a position that the Cavs could use some assistance with and went with a player there.


20. Denver Nuggets- User:Shrubbery J.J. Hickson, PF, North Carolina State

We desperately tried to trade up into the #1 spot but were unsuccessful.

This team, as talented as it is, has two glaring holes to fill; a pure point guard, and an infusion of talent, youth, and health at the 4 and 5 position. Allen Iverson has said publicly watching the Boston Celtics win a title playing unselfish team ball with their three superstars and a cast of role players was enlightening. Will this translate to AI dishing out more assists than ill advised shot attempts or 15 second dribbling exhibitions? Who knows. Whomever we add better add some defensive toughness and intensity. We need interior scoring and D. We also need a legit pure 1.

So this choice is dicey.

What tips the scales in the direction we’re going is the frailty and age we have at power forward and center. Marcus Camby is in the twilight of his career, Kenyon Martin is a huge underachiever who rarely plays long stretches without injury, and Nene has missed huge chunks of playing time throughout his career. So, with the #20 pick in this year’s NBA Draft, the Nuggets select J.J. Hickson from North Carolina State. At 6-9, 240, the 19 year old Hickson has an NBA body already and should add a much needed dose of toughness in the paint. He’s an inconsistent scorer but is a fierce rebounder and is arguably the strongest player in the draft. He has tremendous athleticism and comes with huge upside. He won’t start right away but will develop behind Camby, Martin, and Nene for a couple seasons. He should be able to step in when Martin’s gaudy contract mercifully expires in 2011 and Nene’s expires in 2012. This pick is hedge against the future turnover we expect from this enigmatic roster.


21. New Jersey Nets (from Dallas)- Ibearg: Anthony Randolph, PF, LSU

Randolph Averaged 15.6 pts 8.5 boards and 2.3 blocks a game. Those are numbers that aren’t shabby at all. While we considered drafting a wing player to backup Carter and Jefferson, Randolph just had too much potential to pass on here. We considered taking him at 10, but given his slight frame decided to go with Speights. For now we’ll hopefully play him on the wings at times and as he adds weight we hope he’ll turn into a Chris Bosh type player.

He's a project, but with our other positions solidified we can afford to gamble on a prospect with an extremely high ceiling.

22. Orlando Magic-Ibearg: Chris Douglas Roberts , SG, Memphis

The Magic have a need for some strength up front to backup Dwight Howard, but they also need a bigger guard to put next to mighty mite Jameer Nelson. CDR is a proven winner who can take people off the dribble, has a great midrange game and can defend. What more can you ask for?

Other considerations were Hibbert and Kofous, but the we decided to go with the player who we felt was a better nba prospect.

23. Utah Jazz - Shrubbery - Nicolas Batum, SG, France

This team has but one pressing need…shooting guard. Carlos Boozer, Mehmet Okur, and Andrei Kirilenko are manning the front line very nicely while Deron Williams has developed into a top three point guard. But their only true weakness is outside shooting, something the project known as Nicolas Batum may eventually fill. He is a great athlete with huge upside, a calculated risk the Jazz can afford to take. He’s been compared to Brandon Roy and if he turns out half as good he’ll be a steal this late.


24. Seattle SuperSonics (from Phoenix) - SSR: Mario Chalmers, PG, Kansas

What more can I say? He's a great spot up shooter, he's a defensive stalwart, something the Sonics have lacked for years. In his freshman year he set an NCAA record for steals by a frosh with 89, and with the possibility of Luke Ridnour being trade bait, I could see him as a replacement.


Oh yeah, he was the hero for Kansas in the national title game and won Most Outstanding Player, that's all the convincing I need. I'm surprised he got passed up by many of these teams.

25. Houston Rockets - SSR: Ryan Anderson, F, California-Berkeley

He'll beat you on the post up, he is a very strong player, and most importantly, his jump shot is great. One of the more underrated players in the draft, I expect him to be a 6th man off the bench for Houston, or maybe even competing with Luis Scola for forward position.


The only problem I see with him is his speed, while he can stay out on the floor long, Anderson needs to be faster in a much quicker NBA world.


26. San Antonio Spurs - D21W: Kosta Koufos, C, THE Ohio State University

"Okay, now you're R.C. Buford, GM of the San Antonio Spurs, and you're at the draft. You've won 4 championships since 1999, but you just lost to the Lakers in the Western Conference Finals in 5 games. You have a good core of players who do the little things you want to see out of a champion, but the average age of your roster is approaching my age. And that's a very bad thing. So you have to get younger here, and most of the good, obscure foreign players are taken. You even thought about taking Ryan Anderson, an American, but he's already gone. Then, when all hope seems lost, you scan the list of players drafted and fail to see Kosta Koufos' name. You can't believe he fell this far; he's young, he's big, and he's a Greek national, fulfilling your requirement to draft international players with every pick. Basically, you see that there's nothing but tremendous upside potential here... You must pull the trigger on this pick."

27. Portland Trailblazers - Fatherscott: Bill Walker, SF, Kansas State

Thanks to Paul Allen and his deep pockets, we nab a guy who has been considered pre-injury a top-5 talent. We'll give him a year to rehab and then he enters the mix while we have to make decisions on some other wing guys after 08-09 (like Webster and Jones). It was a toss-up between him and DeAndre Jordan, but since I went for Robin Lopez earlier, it's worth rolling the dice on Walker here.

28. Memphis Grizzlies (from LA Lakers) - [[User:SSreporters|SSR]: Omer Asik, C, Turkey

"While in the Euroleague he was a pretty good shot blocker, his defensive skills and rebounding are very good. His jump shot needs a little tweaking as well as strength, but what I like about him are his intangibles, I rate him highly on my big board, yes I have a big board, kiss my Duke (bleep) Mel Kiper. Sorry about that, anyways, I believe he has a tremendous upside, and will be a big star in this game."




29. Detroit Pistons - User:Behbigben15: D.J. White, PF, Indiana University

There's a good chance that Rasheed won't be in a Detroit Piston uniform next year, and I think that the quicker they can get him out of Detroit, the better. I feel the need for a power forward to replace him. I don't think there's a better fit than 6 foot 9, 250 pound Indiana Hoosier, D.J. White. Unlike Rasheed, White is both a rebounder, and a scorer. He's not afraid to get in the paint and sacrifice his body for a rebound, and he can take an elbow to the face, as well. In 33.5 minutes per game, White scored an average of 17.4 points a game, plus his outstanding average of 10.3 boards a game. He may not be a big name like other incoming big men Kevin Love, Brook Lopez, Roy Hibbert, and Joey Dorsey among others. But I feel White is the right guy out of the available players. Not only would the Pistons get a great young'un, but they could get alot in exchange of Rasheed Wallace. This team can already play with the likes of the San Antonio Spurs, LA Lakers, and..pretty much every team in the NBA. But if they can get rid of the loudmouthed, and whiny ego of Rasheed, they could make even bigger strides in '09. I say take a shot at White.


30. Boston Celtics - SSR: Manny Stiles Courtney Lee, SG, Western Kentucky

Lee is a physical player, gets his teammates involved, has one of the best free throw shooting percentages among the players in the draft, and I like his defense along the perimeter.


PJ Brown and Sam Cassell are probably going to retire, so he could come off the bench as a key role player.



Trades

1. Alando Tucker and the Suns' 15th pick for the Timberwolves' 3rd overall pick.

2. Derrick Rose and Mark Blount for Chris Wilcox, the 4th pick from the Sonics, and the 2009 first round draft pick.

3. Sebastian Telfair, Corey Brewer and the 15th pick for Joel Przybilla, Jarrett Jack, and the 33rd and 13th picks.

4 Jamaal Tinsley and the Pacers' 11th pick for Maurice Williams, Charlie Villanueva, the Bucks' second round pick in 2008 and the Bucks' first round pick in 2009.

5. The Timberwolves' 2009 first round pick, cash, and Jarrett Jack for D.J. Augustin (drafted 12th).


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SSreportersLegend
502 days ago
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In case you're wondering I'm still doing some editing so every user involved has this article go under their opinions.
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CoreyisarealboyMajor Leaguer
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With the first pick of the 2008 ArmchairGM NBA Mock Draft, Oh No Romo and the Chicago Bulls take...
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Coreyisarealboy!
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False ProphetAll-Star
502 days ago
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Michael...O wallowo....owallowokandi.
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CoreyisarealboyMajor Leaguer
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The main difference here is the real draft makes millionaires, the AGM draft puts people in debt!
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Oh No RomoDraft Pick
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My debt is mostly student-related
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SSreportersLegend
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JR Rider anyone?
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Oh No RomoDraft Pick
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I went with Beasley
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CoreyisarealboyMajor Leaguer
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I can't believe I'm picking a player who is 15 months younger than me. That's what happened to me with LeBron James.
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Oh No RomoDraft Pick
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I feel old now :(
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IbeargRed-Shirting
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couldn't agree more with the pick or the reasoning... well done romo.
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Taytay 24All-American
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Just wait until players younger than you start retiring.
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KelsdadAll-Star
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Julio Franco is younger than me.
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SSreportersLegend
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Interesting to see who the Knicks will pick, will Kels be different from Isiah (and, in terms of his secretary scandal), think outside the box?
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KelsdadAll-Star
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count on it
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SSreportersLegend
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BREAKING: Jermaine O'Neal could be a Toronto Raptor.
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KelsdadAll-Star
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BREAKING: He will still suck.
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SSreportersLegend
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False ProphetAll-Star
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TRADE ALERT: The Phoenix Suns have traded Alando Tucker and their first pick (15) to Minnesota for the 3rd pick
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SSreportersLegend
502 days ago
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So.......too much cannabis?
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False ProphetAll-Star
502 days ago
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Tucker's at least worth his value from last year. That's 2 first rounder for the wolves pick. I actually like Tucker as a player though
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False ProphetAll-Star
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He put up 10 pts and 5 rebounds in his only game where he got legitimate playing time, and he's been stuck behind Grant Hill. I think he's got potential to be a good player
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SSreportersLegend
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Check your board...
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IbeargRed-Shirting
502 days ago
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whaaaaaaat? you're aware tucker is 24, undersized for a pf and too slow for a sf? you're aware he played a grand total of 6 games last year? and also aware that he was a 29 pick last year?
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False ProphetAll-Star
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in the only game he's gotten significant time, he's done ok. I think he can be a decent NBA player. At the least, he'll be better than Brewer, who I don't like...
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
502 days ago
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Kelsdad moved up 12 spots WITHOUT dealing his two most moveable pieces - Barbosa or Diaw???? I smell collusion - or an absolute rape of a trade.
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SSreportersLegend
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Yes, it's a rape of a trade, hence the cannabis joke.


FP actually stepped out and it is indeed, Kevin McHale stealing his log-in (as he sits next to his cute little thank you card the Celtics gave him).
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False ProphetAll-Star
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No, I'm not McHale, or else I'd have traded for Gordon giricek. McHale's a sucker for foreign born big men with unpronouncable last names
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SSreportersLegend
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Giricek is the 8th man of the year, that would've been a friggin steal!
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
502 days ago
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Cannabis joke? You'd have to have a bale of cannabis fall on your head to make that deal. Smoking a bale wouldn't make anyone THAT dumb.
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False ProphetAll-Star
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fack, I forgot that. The issue with the suns is they don't have any trouble players, or overrated foreign big men to trade.

And to whoever minused my comment below:

Joe Smith fiasco; Sam Cassell and a first round pick for mark jaric; Sczerbiak and Olowokandi plus more and a first round pick for Blount, Davis, and Banks and more; Brandon Roye for Randy Foye; KG for Al Jefferson, Sebastian Telfair, et al and what comes out as a net gain of a first round pick from the last Boston trade; Donyell Marshall for Tom Gugilotta, Ray Allen for Stephon Marbury (which could have worked, but they refused to work with Marbury). The KG trade, and maybe the Marbury-Allen trade are the only trades in McHale history that could be considered a good deal. I think getting an ok player for a later pick is above par for the wolves
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SSreportersLegend
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And FP, judging someone by one game is ridiculous.


Mike Parott won his first game for the Mariners in 1980 and finished 1-16.


Walter Payton had 8 carries for 0 yards in his first game, and is one of the greatest players in NFL history.
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False ProphetAll-Star
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it's the only game he's played a reasonable amount of time, and I do like what I've seen of him from his college career.
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SSreportersLegend
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I just gave 2 examples of players given "reasonable" time and the ensuing outcome.
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False ProphetAll-Star
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why should we judge him on when he plays 4 mins? That makes even less sense
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SSreportersLegend
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Wait? It was 4 minutes?


Wow, that makes your trade even more useless.
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False ProphetAll-Star
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outside of the game where he played like 20 mins, he was getting about 4 mins of playing time when he got in. My point is it's even more dumb to judge him on those games
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SSreportersLegend
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I think you should talk to Manny as far as Suns players.....
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Taytay 24All-American
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FP, it's not judging him on the four minutes so much as judging him by the fact that was all he got. If your stuck behind Grant HIll at this point of his career, you've got problems.
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False ProphetAll-Star
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you might be right, but I see him as a likely upgrade over Corey Brewer (who I don't like).
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LASportsblogAAA-er
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FP's own words several days ago: I know I don't have a great basketball mind.
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False ProphetAll-Star
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I've watched enough of Corey Brewer, and I've watched enough of Alando Tucker. I never liked Brewer when he was on the gators, and the little bit I saw of him this year before he went down, it didn't do anything to change my mind. Tucker seems like a better player to me, and I'm sure he can out do 6 pts and 3 rebounds.
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FatherscottPee Wee
502 days ago
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Sorry I'm late, I hadn't seen this thread yet. I'm open to trade offers for Rose -- I'll wait a few minutes for offers to come in, if not I'll make my selection.
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KelsdadAll-Star
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If you don't want Rose, don't draft him.
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FatherscottPee Wee
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Not necessarily that I don't want him, just seeing what's out there.
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CoreyisarealboyMajor Leaguer
502 days ago
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I think we need to get this show on the road. I gotta work in a couple hours.
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CoreyisarealboyMajor Leaguer
502 days ago
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Ha, ask and you shall receive...
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KelsdadAll-Star
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I'm going offline in five minutes or so and will be gone for about an hour, hour and a half.
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SSreportersLegend
502 days ago
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You're on the clock anyway.
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FatherscottPee Wee
502 days ago
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Sorry Corey. I was working on a deal but decide just to make the pick and then it can keep going. Sorry to hold you guys up. Trade detail coming soon.
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CoreyisarealboyMajor Leaguer
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No prob. Was actually considering making an offer myself, but decided against it, which I will explain.
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SSreportersLegend
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Jerryd Bayless to the Suns according to Kels, his summary will come after he gets back online.
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SSreportersLegend
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TRADE ALERT: Fatherscott has traded the #2 pick, which was Derrick Rose, and Mark Blount, to the Oklahoma City Sonics for my #4 pick and Chris Wilcox.
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SSreportersLegend
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And the 2009 first round pick.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
502 days ago
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Thank G-D some of you aren't REAL GMs...
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False ProphetAll-Star
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as far as the Timberwolves trade record goes, I'd say the Alando Tucker trade probably ranks as one of the best trades in the McHale Era.
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don't forget the '09 first rounder, check the previous message.
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SSreportersLegend
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Make your pick now!
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IbeargRed-Shirting
502 days ago
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jerryd bayless to the suns? i know nash is getting old, but i'd think they'd be going for it now rather then taking a guy who's either a backup pg or an undersized two... guess we'll see what kelsdad has to say about it.
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FatherscottPee Wee
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Typing it up now.
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SSreportersLegend
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OJ Mayo and Dwyane Wade will form the backbone of a team that will contend in the East for the next ten years, starting in '08-09.


I doubt that Wade and Mayo will be able to live in 2108, but, whatever you say.


I think Mayo has bust all over him.
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CoreyisarealboyMajor Leaguer
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I was not all that impressed with him either. One more year at USC probably would have done the kid wonders, but when you have been hyped since 14 and a guaranteed top 5 contract awaits, who would stay?
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not sure why you're assuming 2108... '08 can be an abbreviation for 2008 as well, right? and ten years goes to 2018. am i missing something? I know the doubts about Mayo, but I think he's a stud. I think he'll learn from the problems he's faced. I actually think it should make his transition to the NBA easier -- he should already be skeptical of hangers-on and know to behave himself. Plus Wade is a steadying influence, and I think their new coach is good as well.
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IbeargRed-Shirting
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to me i think mayo makes alot of sense in miami and rose in sea/okc. Mayo can shoot which will be needed alongside wade while rose can create shots for durant and greene as well as himself. put wade and rose in the backcourt and defenses will play 5 guys in the paint(for 3 seconds at a time of course).
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SSreportersLegend
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It's just a joke Fatherscott.


I really don't think Wade has many more years left in him, he is injured every year now and eventually that will cause his numbers to decrease significantly.


If anything, Mayo is a replacement, not a teammate, for Wade down the road.
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FatherscottPee Wee
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that's actually a good point SSR. I wouldn't want to be a Heat fan right now, I have major reservations about Wade going forward, and I really don't like Marion much either. I think it's a pretty lousy situation down there. 10 years is probably asking too much (but I did have my generic GM quote hat on for those quotes :) ) but i think they can play together for 6 years or so with Wade fluctuating between being the guy we've seen him and about 75% of that. Who knows -- people have been saying Iverson would be done for years because of his style, and he's battled through it.
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SSreportersLegend
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I really think that Wayne Simien was a waste of a draft pick and they need another big man. Haslem won't cut it if they want to be contenders.


Did I say Wayne Simien? I meant Wayne Summers (Boom Goes the Dynamite reference).
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JuTMSY4Legend
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no worries...there are no heat fans...
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FatherscottPee Wee
502 days ago
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Hard to disagree with that...Simien looks useless. I kind of like Dorell Wright, but I don't know that he'll be anything special. This team definitely needs a big man, no question about it.
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SSreportersLegend
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Chances are DRE-LO will be on later in the day so be patient and talk about Michael Strahan signing with FOX to be an analyst.
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SSreportersLegend
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Dammit Dre it's 5:30 in New York, what's up? Do you have a life or something?
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KelsdadAll-Star
502 days ago
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I'm here for another hour or so, then gone for the rest of the day, so.........
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SSreportersLegend
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Message me on your possible picks and I'll fill it in if DRE selects.
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CoreyisarealboyMajor Leaguer
502 days ago
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Same here. I'll get you mine then fill in the rest when I get home later tonight just so we can maybe get through all 10 today.
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SSreportersLegend
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Yay, everything is in strikethrough!
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LASportsblogAAA-er
502 days ago
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CLIPPERS NEWS: COREY MAGGETTE, and peices are availiable for trading
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SSreportersLegend
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JFC Dre, hurry this up...
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BigPPupMajor Leaguer
502 days ago
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At this rate the draft will finish a week from Thursday
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Oh No RomoDraft Pick
502 days ago
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....Next year
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SSreportersLegend
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Alright DRE, you have until midnight, if there is no pick made I'll make it for you and hope for the best.
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IbeargRed-Shirting
502 days ago
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chad fords most recent mock draft has eric gordon there (coincidentally in my mock draft a couple weeks ago so did i.) In absence of someone to pick for them i think its a pretty solid choice.
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LASportsblogAAA-er
502 days ago
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Or you could pick Brook Lopez or Danilo Gallanari and let a real prospect slide to a GM that has been available to pick him.
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CoreyisarealboyMajor Leaguer
502 days ago
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Which midnight were you talking about by the way? 'Cause it's 12:30 at Bucks' Draft Headquarters right now. :)
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LASportsblogAAA-er
502 days ago
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It's 10:30pm PST at Clippers HQ and me and Elgin Baylor are getting sleepy - plus I'm off work in 30 minutes. So even if Dre came and did his thing me and Kelsdad will most def be picking tomorrow, but trust will both do it in pretty short order once we hit the clock tomorrow.
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CoreyisarealboyMajor Leaguer
502 days ago
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I'll be on as soon as I wake up.
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IbeargRed-Shirting
501 days ago
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longest on the clock ever...
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ShrubberyVarsity Captain
501 days ago
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Oi, When will Memphis pick?! The real draft is only 60 hours away!
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CoreyisarealboyMajor Leaguer
501 days ago
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Where's SSR? He said he'd make the pick already.
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False ProphetAll-Star
501 days ago
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I say we move on, just like if a team misses their window for a pick, the next team can make theirs, and when Dre Lo comes back, he can draft whenever.
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False ProphetAll-Star
501 days ago
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if we get 7 more users to agree to this that are in the draft, or SSR, we'll just go forward. Reply with some form of a positive comment if you agree.
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FatherscottPee Wee
501 days ago
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I don't think we should have teams jumping ahead of other teams, that makes it completely unrealistic (Cause there's no chance of it happening Thursday). I'd say SSR can just jump in if the guy doesn't show, he's already filling in for a bunch of teams.
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KelsdadAll-Star
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OK, FP, I see SSR made Dre's pick. Give me about ten minutes and I'll make mine, then I'm done.
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FatherscottPee Wee
501 days ago
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Portland's no. 13 pick, just like in real life, is up for grabs. We've got something like 25 young guys on our team. I'd like to consolidate a few of them and the pick for a more ready-now kind of player. Anyone who's looking at a rebuilding plan and wants to move a high-priced vet, let me know, I've got the pick, Raef's hilarious (but expiring) contract, and a slew of young talent (Jack, Frye, Webster, Outlaw, Fernandez).
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CoreyisarealboyMajor Leaguer
501 days ago
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Woohoo! Let's get this show on the road, we have 15 picks to make up by the end of the day!
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KelsdadAll-Star
501 days ago
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TRADE ALERT: The New York Knicks have traded the sixth pick in the 2008 draft, along with forward David Lee, to the Phoenix Suns for guard Leandro Barbosa, forward Boris Diaw, the Suns second round pick, and 2.5 million dollars. The Knicks are also actively attempting to work out a buyout of the final two years of Stephon Marbury's contract, they will use the cash obtained from the Suns to increase their earlier offer.
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IbeargRed-Shirting
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marbury only has one more year left...
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SSreportersLegend
501 days ago
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Trading with yourself I see?


Genius! What a steal of a trade.
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KelsdadAll-Star
501 days ago
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Picking two teams has its benefits, SS......
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IbeargRed-Shirting
501 days ago
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that trade can't possibly work salary cap wise though... i guess we're not concerned with that...
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KelsdadAll-Star
501 days ago
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That's why there's cash in the deal, and a replacement pick, which has cash value. But you're right, we're doing this for fun, who cares about caps
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IbeargRed-Shirting
501 days ago
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between marbury and malik rose's expiring deals i'll just assume the teams found a way to make it work :)
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KelsdadAll-Star
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You're right, Ibearg, thanks.
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KelsdadAll-Star
501 days ago
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And it's no secret both Barbosa and Diaw will be traded, (Barbosa already is, from what I hear) and its no secret D'Antoni wants both of them in New York. I just followed the rumors to make the draft more interesting.
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CoreyisarealboyMajor Leaguer
501 days ago
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I guess the Suns aren't returning phone calls to other HQ, huh, KD?
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KelsdadAll-Star
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Check your answering machine....
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CoreyisarealboyMajor Leaguer
501 days ago
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Got it, appreciate the response.
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CoreyisarealboyMajor Leaguer
501 days ago
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Ok, I'm ready to pick, where's LASB?
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LASportsblogAAA-er
501 days ago
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Sorry Cory I'm done, you're up!
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LASportsblogAAA-er
501 days ago
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I'm off today so it took me a little longer to get to a computer but i'm done and done! Good luck everyone else.
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SSreportersLegend
501 days ago
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This will be interesting, Agent0 seems to be on hiatus so I doubt whether or not he'll know this is on.
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SSreportersLegend
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Corey is up, and if we get to the 10th pick I'm sure 10-15 will be done quickly.
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JuTMSY4Legend
501 days ago
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10 - 16 ; - )
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FatherscottPee Wee
501 days ago
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Guys I'll be offline tonight unfortunately, so it won't get by no. 13 (though at this pace it doesn't look like it's getting to me anyway!). I have some trade negotiations in place and will either choose a deal or a player first thing in the morning. To repeat my previous post, no. 13 is on the table. If you're looking to pick up a high pick and some young pieces and dump a high-salaried vet (picking up Raef's deal in the process), send an offer along. As I said, I'm in discussions on a few and am open to hearing all kinds of offers.
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CoreyisarealboyMajor Leaguer
501 days ago
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TRADE ALERT:


Indiana Pacers Get: Maurice Williams, Charlie Villanueva, the Milwaukee Bucks' second round pick of 2008 and first round pick of 2009
Milwaukee Bucks Get:

Jermaine O'Neal and the 11th pick.
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IbeargRed-Shirting
501 days ago
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Corey... you know its a big IF that O'Neal is actually healthy right?
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CoreyisarealboyMajor Leaguer
501 days ago
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I'm more concerned about the 11th pick ;), but I also got a decent backup PF/C if he is didn't I?
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SSreportersLegend
501 days ago
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You're still here, why aren't you making a pick?
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CoreyisarealboyMajor Leaguer
501 days ago
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Sorry, I actually was gone -- softball game. I'm back and my pick has been made.
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FatherscottPee Wee
501 days ago
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Managed to get online briefly. A minor deal was struck:

Portland receives: Sebastian Telfair and the 15th pick Minnesota receives: Joel Przybilla and the 13th pick

I'll check in in the morning with my pick at 15.
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FatherscottPee Wee
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And to follow up on FP's comment about the trade, I'm sure most of you realize my thinking. This is purely a salary dump. We unload the 4 years left of Przy's deal and since the Bassy Telfair in Portland experiment already failed, we'll buy him out for 80% of whatever he's owed. Enjoy Maccabi Tel Aviv, Bassy (if you can make the team). After this deal, Portland now has literally no bad deals on its books (LaFrentz, in his last year, is now obviously an asset). We still have roughly 431 young players under contract, but that's a different problem.
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False ProphetAll-Star
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trade now also includes Corey brewer for Jarrett Jack and the 33rd pick. Logic here being I don't like Corey Brewer and I get a point guard, and while I like Randy Foye, he really ain't a point guard. He's kinda his own position
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False ProphetAll-Star
501 days ago
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The Wolves are interested in trading down (again). I might not move down, but there's a chance I'd be willing to trade down for the right package...
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False ProphetAll-Star
501 days ago
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And SSR, since you're probably lurking on Site Scout, Check your email...
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SSreportersLegend
501 days ago
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Working on a Best Play-By-Play Announcers tournament on my website.....I've made Joe Buck a #3 seed.
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SSreportersLegend
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Gmail is down, message me.
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LASportsblogAAA-er
501 days ago
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Corey, ignore the trade proposal I just sent you, I didn't notice you'd already traded back into the 1st round.
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SSreportersLegend
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Trade Alert: The T-Puppies have given up their First round pick in 2009 and cash and Jarrett Jack for DJ Augustin.
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Taytay 24All-American
500 days ago
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I love Augustin. He is an absolute gamer. But I don't see him as an NBA player. I really hope I'm wrong on this, but I think FP and the Wolves are going to regret this pick, particularly in the top half of the first round.
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500 days ago
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I think Augustin will put on some weight, and make the pick worth it. Getting 2 good players that can actually earn their salary would be a blessing for the wolves.
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Taytay 24All-American
500 days ago
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Augustin's problem isn't weight--he actually has a decent NBA build already. But he's only six feet tall, which is probably generous. Yeah, there are six footers in the League, but they have exceptional talents otherwise, and I don't think Augustin does. He's got the heart and he's a natural leader, but I don't think he has enough raw talent to get in the game at that level. Again, I hope I'm wrong.
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IbeargRed-Shirting
501 days ago
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SSR you also forgot to mention the Kings best option at pg right now is beno udrih... so they clearly needed help there. good pick.
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False ProphetAll-Star
501 days ago
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really good pick, which is why I ended up giving up the first round pick next year for him
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IbeargRed-Shirting
501 days ago
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Roy Hibbert to the Warriors? Its almost like if Mike D'Antoni had to coach zach randolph and eddy curry...
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CoreyisarealboyMajor Leaguer
501 days ago
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Are we going to repost this as an actual article for people to read? I have a feeling the only people paying attention to this anymore are the people involved in picking them.
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SSreportersLegend
501 days ago
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Yes.
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CoreyisarealboyMajor Leaguer
501 days ago
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We'll have to speed this up somehow then to get it out before Thursday. In the meantime, however, why not go check out my thoughts on the Bucks draft needs.
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Agent0Red-Shirting
500 days ago
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ah shit. I didn't know mock draft happened today (yesterday) oh well, I think Brook Lopez was right pick ,lol. Whatev...I'm attempting a comeback right now, but I have serious network problems! I have a coople article I am planning on posting when my computer's internet works
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FatherscottPee Wee
500 days ago
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Hey guys, my pick will be up in a couple of minutes. Just want to review a few things but I think I know who I'm taking.
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FatherscottPee Wee
500 days ago
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Just read the real-life trade where the Hornets dumped the no. 27 pick to Portland for cash. Will we be adjusting our draft for this as well, or no because we already started ours?
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IbeargRed-Shirting
500 days ago
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we should definitely change it... you're picking for both teams anyway right?
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IbeargRed-Shirting
500 days ago
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nevermind i meant false prophet... with priests and prophets, a jew like me gets confused
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IbeargRed-Shirting
500 days ago
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Robin Lopez to Portland at 15??? they have Aldridge, Frye and Oden, if anything they were already looking to upgrade at PG before trading away jack... chalmers had to be the pick there.
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IbeargRed-Shirting
500 days ago
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for someone who says they don't like basketball i like the pick Jut.
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JuTMSY4Legend
500 days ago
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I was thinking Lopez (robin) for a minute...but watching him in the tourney made me realize what a bitch he is... I was stunned to see Speights taken so high...for that price, you can keep him jersey...
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FatherscottPee Wee
500 days ago
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Here's the thing, we want to ease Oden (the franchise player) into things next year. Coming off injury, we don't want it to be a nagging thing -- keep him fresh and let him develop. Aldridge and Frye aren't really bangers down low, and, as a Celtic fan, I've seen enough of Raef LaFrentz, thank you very much.

I was planning on taking Chalmers originally. But Jack is irrelevant here. We've got Sergio and Blake. Blake's the guy for the time being, and Sergio can be in a year or two. Plus Roy does a little PGing as well.

Basically, Chalmers isn't good enough to justify not having a big guy behind Oden. I suppose I could have taken him and then signed some vet big off the scrap heap (Adonal Foyle or Scot Pollard or something), but we have enough guys under contract as it is.
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IbeargRed-Shirting
500 days ago
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while i'm not sure i share your faith in sergio and blake i can buy your reasoning, amare and nene have taken over a year to come back full strength from the same injuries.
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FatherscottPee Wee
500 days ago
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I don't really love either guy, but Blake's a decent fill in for now (it's not like Portland is a title contender next year), plus, between Raef's contract and our bunch of young guys, if we wanted to bring in a vet PG I think we could make a move.
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LASportsblogAAA-er
500 days ago
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FP is all about being a Real-Life Kevin McHale - Hey FP, can I offload Cuttino Mobley's fat contract number on you?
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False ProphetAll-Star
500 days ago
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no. I got rid of Telfair for a reason. I like the starting lineup I've created. It's young, and I think it'll work out well. Rush and Augustin are both good players. They might not be stars, but they'll be solid starters on a team desperate for real players. I think Rush and Augustin are worth Jarrett Jack, a first rounder next year and cash, assuming the wolves have a much better season, or tank it again and get it lottery protected.
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KelsdadAll-Star
500 days ago
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"I got rid of Telfair for a reason" Because he sucks?
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False ProphetAll-Star
500 days ago
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moreso because he has a rediculous contract that is a pain in the ass to any franchise, and I've still got to deal with Marko Jaric's contract for a couple more years, so the more contracts I can dump, the better.
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FatherscottPee Wee
500 days ago
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In doing so, you took on a pretty mammoth contract in Przybilla. It's not that he's not good, necessarily, but it's a financial burden that a rebuilding team might not want, particularly one that has a few more years of Jaric on the books. I'm curious what your plan is: Jefferson is the franchise piece, which I think is fine. Surrounding him with Augustin and Rush, who you say are not stars (I agree), Jaric, Foye (can he stay healthy?, McCants, Gomes...does this team have the upside of an 8 seed? Are you anticipating another high pick next year to be the no. 2 guy to Big Al, or do you expect Foye to be that guy?
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FatherscottPee Wee
500 days ago
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FP-- I think Telfair's deal is expiring, brother.
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FatherscottPee Wee
500 days ago
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http://hoops...innesota.htm
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False ProphetAll-Star
500 days ago
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i see the 2008-2009 season as a season long try out. Jefferson is here to stay, as are Augustin and Rush. Jaric is being given another 2 years to prove himself because his contract is immovable. Foye and McCants are both question marks. Foye probably moreso than McCants because as of now, there's not really anyone to challenge McCants, and I actually kinda think he can play SG, whereas Foye really doesn't have a position.

Re Augustin/Rush. They probably won't be stars, but they're going to be solid players, imo. That's what you need if you're building a team. Good solid players who can play their position well. After watching KG's entire career in MN go by with only 2-3 attempts at actually building something (04, allen, and marbury), and only one of them actually getting something, I'm changing philosophy. Jefferson's our future, and we need to get good talent around him to start being competitive. Go back to at least what we were with Cassey as coach. A rocky team that had the ability to beat anyone in the league, and was fighting for a playoff spot. That's how you get talent to come to your franchise. I've seen Sam Cassell and Latrell Sprewell brought in to try and make a franchise. It didn't work beyond one year. They give up, and try and use Marko Jaric. That didn't work either. So they trade trash for trash with boston and end up with Blount, Davis, and Banks. Team looks better, but not great. And we're now down 2 first round picks. We get rid of all three of the boston guys, and pick up telfair and a bunch of other junk players. That hasn't worked.

The wolves are going to build a team around Jefferson, and use Augustin and Rush as building blocks. Maybe one or both of them will turn out to be stars. If not, they probably be players that the wolves can depend upon to be consistant and productive. That's my plan.

Re Przybilla: The wolves need a Center pretty friggen badly. I see no one on the roster that is worthy of starting. True, I could have drafted one, but I'd rather take a vet and use the pick(s) on a PG and, since I had another pick, a SF. I get it's just as bad as telfair's deal, but at least he'll be starting, whereas telfair's a bust, and after next season probably won't even have a team.

Re: Telfair expiring: True, and I'd rather unload Marko Jaric (ONR can attest to that), but he's just immovable.
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FatherscottPee Wee
500 days ago
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Good explanation. I like your plan, actually. It's important to build a team philosophy and stick to it; so many teams jump around year to year and never develop anything.

Przybilla isn't a bad player, he's just not worth his contract, and if you hate Telfair that much (being a Celtic fan, I feel your pain), you should have just bought him out.

One crazy thing: Jaric isn't immovable. We just had a year in which Ben Wallace, Larry Hughes, Shaquille O'Neal, Zach Randolph, and Wally Szczerbiak (twice!) were traded. Marko had a better year than Hughes, Wallace, and Wally, I bet, and makes less. The NBA is amazing.

But no, I wouldn't have moved Przy for Jaric :)
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False ProphetAll-Star
500 days ago
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But all of those players but Sczerbiak have value. They all have a good track record, or at the least, were part of a larger trade and used to balance out the money. Jaric is immovable so long as I have nothing else to trade.

I want something for Telfair though. He was a big part of the KG trade, and even if it's an overpriced Center and a PG that gets dumped in part of a trade for Augustin, I want my money's worth. Przy is overvalued, but yes, he can play. Which is why I'm fine with the deal.

I totally agree about NBA teams not sticking to a plan. Thankfully football is better in terms of trades because it's a shitload harder to go from Jon Gruden's offense to New England's vs going from Minneapolis to Milwaukee. NBA strategies are more personnel driven than philosophy driven, unlike the NFL (where there are a bunch of 3-4 teams, but there are teams like Pittsburgh who use the ILBs as blitzers and OLBs as the cover guys, or New England which likes to blitz down lineman from a 3-4; or there are cover 2 teams like Minnesota that play a conservative defense designed at taking away the run and the short range pass, or aggressive teams like Indy who will use the Cover 2 to disguise some crazy blitz packages whereas in basketball, things are a lot simpler, especially considering they don't have to memorize like 200 plays), which leads to a lot more blockbuster trades being made.
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SSreportersLegend
500 days ago
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If anyone could please pick for JTS, I'd appreciate it......
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KelsdadAll-Star
500 days ago
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I'll do it, SS. Give me five minutes.
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JuTMSY4Legend
500 days ago
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I was taking Green if Arthur was unavailable at 16...good pick
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Agent0Red-Shirting
500 days ago
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One Rockchalk Jayhawk down. Now someone grab the guard that will be better than Mayo, Bayless, and Rose. Yea you know who...Chalmers!
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FatherscottPee Wee
500 days ago
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SSR: any thoughts re the NO/Portland situation at 27? I just want to know whether I should keep monitoring this draft tomorrow or not.
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SSreportersLegend
500 days ago
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It will be changed.
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IbeargRed-Shirting
500 days ago
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FP i know Ajinca is jumping up draft boards, but from what i hear he averaged 5 points a game last year in france... that's not good... at all.
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JuTMSY4Legend
500 days ago
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i had a ton of reservations...i just trusted what I saw and not what i read...
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False ProphetAll-Star
500 days ago
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Like I said, he's a project, no doubt, but it's a project the cavs can afford to work on, imo.
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CoreyisarealboyMajor Leaguer
500 days ago
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Seven more picks to go!
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CoreyisarealboyMajor Leaguer
500 days ago
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So much for my O'Neal trade. The deal to Toronto was just finalized.
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CoreyisarealboyMajor Leaguer
500 days ago
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SSR, care to change it from O'Neal to Tinsley?
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SSreportersLegend
500 days ago
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That works....
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IbeargRed-Shirting
500 days ago
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SSR didn't you already have seattle/okc trading for Rose earlier?
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SSreportersLegend
500 days ago
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Er....that was the 4th overall, not 24th.
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IbeargRed-Shirting
500 days ago
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right, but i'm just saying if they're already taking the best pg in the draft, while chalmers is a very good player does it make sense to take him as well?
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SSreportersLegend
500 days ago
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I'm GM of a team that's about to pack its bags, I think that with Ridnour likely out of the loop, it would be a test to see who is starter worthy and who is bench worthy.


Plus picking centers has been lousy in Seattle.
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False ProphetAll-Star
500 days ago
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I've got to go, but fatherscott is on the clock, not me
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FatherscottPee Wee
499 days ago
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If memory serves DRE-LO wasn't around for the first Memphis pick, somebody might need to step in for him.
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CoreyisarealboyMajor Leaguer
499 days ago
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The draft is in an hour and we still have two picks left. Perhaps we should finish it before it becomes a moot point.
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SSreportersLegend
499 days ago
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If anyone wants to give it a crack at the last 2 picks then go ahead.


I knew we would make it!
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Hart4HeismanVarsity Captain
461 days ago
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wow ssreporters u dont kno shit bout basketball sorry :s
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SSreportersLegend
461 days ago
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big_cup_of_STFU.jpg
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Hart4HeismanVarsity Captain
459 days ago
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wow haha how bout u kiss my hairy brown ass ur prob just a fatass that doesnt know shit bout sports bitch what are u like a 50 year old has been or somtin? hahahahahahahaha
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
499 days ago
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OVER/UNDER on how many of these picks will be exactly right in their slot: +/- 1&1/2
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JuTMSY4Legend
499 days ago
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and I'm the one...thanks!
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CoreyisarealboyMajor Leaguer
499 days ago
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Ye have little faith.
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Behbigben15All-Star
499 days ago
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Ok, sorry about that...I missed my pick because I wasn't home for most of the day, but since Detroit hasn't picked yet I changed SSR's pick to the guy I was going to draft, DJ White of Indiana. Plus, Robin Lopez was already picked earlier in the draft. Way to pay attention SS, haha.
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