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Should Pat Burrell Have Taken the 3-0 Pitch?

by LouGehrig
created April 15, 2009, last edited April 22, 2009
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by Harold Friend

The New York Yankees defeated the defending American League champion Tampa Bay Rays on April 14 in the second game of a three game set in Tampa, 7.2. The key play of the game came on a 3-0 pitch to Pat Burrell with Rays runners on first and third and no outs in the seventh inning.

Runners of First and Third With No Outs

Yankees' starter A.J. Burnett had held the Rays hitless through the first six innings and was protecting a slim 2-0 lead when Carl Crawford, leading off the inning, fouled off Burnett's first 5 pitches and then sliced a single to left field. Evan Longoria followed with a single to left, moving Crawford to second, after which Carlos Pena lashed a hit to right field for a single, scoring Crawford and moving Longoria to third with the potential tying run.

Pat Burrell's Sacrifice Fly Tied the Game

Pat Burrell was the batter. Burnett fell behind Burrell, 3-0. The former Phillies' outfielder, who averages 157 strikeouts a season, swung at Burnett's 3-0 pitch and lifted a fly ball to right field that scored Longoria from third to tie the game. Dioner Navarro struck out, and with Ben Zobrist at the plate, catcher Jose Molina nabbed Pena off first to end the inning.

An .817 Slugging Average on 3-1

There is no right or wrong move with respect to whether Burrell should have swing at the 3-0 pitch. He tied the game, the Rays were the home team, and Tampa Bay has a solid bullpen, which are positives. Burrell has batted .474 when putting the ball in play on a 3-0 count, with a .536 slugging average. When the count is 3-1, Burrell has hit .378, but he has slugged .817.

Pressure On A.J. Burnett

A, J. Burnett was on top of his game. The Rays had an opportunity to tie the game, and they took it, but by giving Burrell the hit sign, Rays' manager Joe Maddon was decreasing the chances of a big inning if Burrell didn't produce a big hit. An out, even a game tying out, helped decrease the pressure on Burnett.

The Myth of the Predestined Hit

A walk would have loaded the bases with no outs, although the Rays would still be trailing, 2-1 with Dioner Navarro batting. The predestined hit is a myth because the situation changes. If Burrell had taken the 3-0 pitch, it would have been a strike. It is impossible to predict what would have happened, but one must decide between two situations. Which is better, having the bases loaded with no outs, trailing by a run in the seventh inning, or having a runner on first with one out and the game tied? Of course, Burrell has more power than Navarro, and has a better chance of getting a long hit.

Pat Burrell Had an Excellent Chance of Walking

After a 3-0 count (not necessarily hitting the next pitch), Burrell has batted .330 with a .790 on base average, which indicates that statistically, he had an excellent chance of walking. With the count 3-1, which is what would most likely have been the count if Burrell had not swung at the 3-0 pitch, he has hit .285, with a .637 on base average. With runners on first and third, Burrell has batted .348.

Statistics Do Not Account for Emotions

Statistics must be used as a valuable guide, but the cannot accurately factor in the emotions of the situation. Burnett has walked 3.7 batters per 9 innings in his career. He had just lost his potential no-hitter and given up 3 consecutive hits. Would he be hesitant to throw strikes to a power hitter? He did fall behind Burrell, 3-0.

The Rays had taken the momentum away from the Yankees in front of a sell out crowd. They had brutalized the Yankees' pitching the staff the previous night. There would have been a world of difference if the Rays had the bases loaded and none outs compared to a runner on first, one out, and a tie game. The move here would have to taken the 3-0 pitch in an attempt to load the bases to keep the rally alive and keep the pressure on Burnett. As paradoxical as it seems, there are times when the potential of tying a game is better than tying it.

Reference:

Pat Burrell Splits at Sports Illustrated


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LouGehrigRed-Shirting
228 days ago
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Please help me change the tite to "Should Pat Burrell Have Taken the 3-0 Pitch?" Thanks
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JuTMSY4Legend
228 days ago
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For the record, if you click on the little down arrow next to "edit" and hit the "Move this page" button, you can change the title, just be sure not to delete the "Article:" section otherwise it makes a real clusterfuck...
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Sj-hypocycloidAll-American
228 days ago
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I'm always an advocate of swinging at a 3-0 pitch, as you are nearly assured of getting a good pitch to hit. I also favor swinging at the first pitch, rather than starting an at-bat at 0-1. Of course, circumstances always change the dynamic, and the pitch in both cases could be crap, in which case...you don't swing. But...if the pitch is a strike...try to knock the hell out of it. IMO...
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LouGehrigRed-Shirting
228 days ago
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I am usually more conservative. I want to keep a rally alive. There are even times when a walk or a single might be better than a grand slam. The grand slam empties the bases, but if a team is trailing by 6 or 7 runs, they are still down. It depends on many factors, but sometimes it might be better to have base runners. Of course, the runners should score, so it really means giving up a guaranteed run.
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JuTMSY4Legend
228 days ago
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you're talking yourself into a hole...

Runners scoring > Runners on base...

If you're suggesting something like momentum (bases moving like a merri-go-round) I'll agree to some extent, but runners driven in is always a good thing when compared to runners with only the potential to be driven in...
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Sj-hypocycloidAll-American
228 days ago
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Yeah, I can see the whole rally thing, but I also believe that teams should do whatever is necessary (suicide squeeze, hit & run, steal) to get runners moving or runs across the plate. But I've blathered about this in relation to LOB numbers for the Phillies for a while now, and most of the time, I get looks from people wondering why I'd want them to bunt with a runner on second with less than 2 outs. Just move those runners, boys...
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LouGehrigRed-Shirting
228 days ago
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I like to keep things simple, but that is not always possible. Basically, any time you can get a run for an out, take the run, but it can become complicated, as in the Burrell situation.

If you get a run for an out, and unrealistically, but in theory, you score 27 runs and almost never lose. But that is not what happens.

In the Burrell situation, the potential for many runs makes getting one run seem like a defeat.

It really is the manaager's philosophy, and there is no standard, correct answer that always applies. Make your decision and live with it.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
228 days ago
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Joe Maddon lets his players play. He's an aggressive manager.

I guarantee if you asked Joe what his purpose was, he would have a litany of reasons longer than his arm. Guarantee it. The man thinks EVERYTHING through to the nth degree.

That being said, he's a big fan of letting his players do what they do. Burrell has a good eye (for the most part) and has the pop to do damage. They pay Pat a lot of money to be a righthanded power bat.

Considering each team gets 27 outs per game, I would never fault a game being won or lost on one play anyway.
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JuTMSY4Legend
227 days ago
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Did it think this one through?

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Sorry, it was there...
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JuTMSY4Legend
227 days ago
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But seriously, I agree with Manny...I think, especially in Baseball, that taking chances and letting the chips fall is a fine way to do things...

-Burrell has an excellent eye...and he typically takes those 3-0 pitches

-If you're in a RISP situation with no outs, I think you let Burrell swing...as Manny said, that's what he does...
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LouGehrigRed-Shirting
227 days ago
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There are 2 games that were won (or for me, lost) on one play.

Johnny Blanchard went to the mound to tell Ralph Terry not to throw another high slider to Mazeroski. Either Terry didn't listen or he didn't get the ball where he wanted. You know what happened.

A short time later, Tim McCarver told us that playing the infield in could result in Gonzalez getting a bloop hit over the infield. You know what happened.
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Anonymous Fanatic #1
227 days ago
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The pitch to Mazeroski was a fastball..belt high. The ball was retrieved outside the stadium by a 13 year old kid who traded it back to Maz for....two cases of beer.
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Anonymous Fanatic #2
227 days ago
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If it were a fast ball, they would still be playing.
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KelsdadAll-Star
227 days ago
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Nope. http://encar..._Series.html
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