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Saunders out in Detroit

by Behbigben15
created June 04, 2008, last edited June 10, 2008
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The Detroit Pistons organization fired head coach Flip Saunders earlier today.

Saunders, and his Detroit Pistons, once again failed to reach the NBA Finals after taking Detroit to three straight Eastern Conference Finals. Detroit fell to the Miami Heat (05-06), Cleveland Cavaliers (06-07), and the Boston Celtics (07-08) in three straight Conference Finals. Flip is a great basketball coach, but, unlike guys like Phil Jackson, Saunders isn't a great postseason head coach, obviously. Though Saunders does know how to lead a team into the playoffs. Before coming to Detroit, Saunders coached the Minnesota Timberwolves for 10 seasons. Flip led Minnesota to 6 winning seasons, and missed the playoffs just twice during those ten seasons.

Saunders, and the T wolves missed the playoffs in his first season as head coach ('95-'96) with a 20-42 record, and a 6th place finish in the Midwest Division. For the next 7 seasons in Minnesota, Saunders led the Timberwolves to 1 Division title, and five 3rd place finishes. His team made it to the playoffs in each of those seasons, but lost in the first round of the NBA playoffs every single time. His 10 years in Minnesota also consisted of four 50+ win seasons.

Some blame this on Kevin Garnett's inability to win the "Big one", but I just think Flip lacks the skills needed to coach a high-caliber playoff team. Saunders coached just 51 games during the 2004-2005 NBA season before the Minnesota organization fired him.

Despite his struggles in the playoffs, the Detroit Pistons hired Saunders as head coach on July 21st, 2005. Saunders was to replace former head coach Larry Brown, who is now coaching the Charlotte Bobcats. Saunders coached Detroit for 3 seasons, and accumulated a 176-70 record, including a 64 win season in 2006, his first season on the job. Also, in those 3 years under Saunders, Detroit captured 3 Division titles.

Career Coaching Stats

Seasons: 13

Games coached: 983

Record: 587-396

Win %- .597

Personally, I don't agree with this firing. I know, I know, he did show that he couldn't finish it off in Minnesota. But, I just think that they should have given him one last chance. It takes more than three years to create a legit system in pro sports. But, Basketball, just like every other pro sport, is a business. I guess it was just time for a change in Detroit. Saunders will definitely not be on the market for too long. He is a great coach, and I wish him luck.


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BigPPupMajor Leaguer
529 days ago
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Best thing the Pistons could have done. Joe Dumars was correct, the Pistons need a new voice
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SSreportersLegend
529 days ago
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Flip Saunders = Marty Schottenheimer


Basically this guy has been the beneficiary of having a guy like Kevin Garnett, a likely HOFer, he had his big three (Sprewell, Garnett, Cassell) and flopped with the Timberwolves. No coach should ever have to take 8 post-season tries to win one lousy playoff series. And when he finally did, they threw away home court and blew it against the Malone/Shaq/Payton/Kobe Lakers team. Missed the playoffs next season and was fired.


He really had the same players that Larry Brown had sans Carlos Arroyo and Mehmet Okur (and of course, DARKO!), he took the Pistons to the Conference Finals three years in a row, and not only did he lose all 3 in 6 games, he lost at least 1 at home.


He is a type of guy who can lead a team out of the dumps but won't take you any level higher. I can't see him being a coach anywhere anymore if the goal is to win it all.
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BigPPupMajor Leaguer
529 days ago
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Calling him Marty is giving Saunders way too much credit. Marty has blown a lot o big games, but he is a hell o a coach. I will not say the same about Saunders
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The PipDiv-I Stud
528 days ago
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Usually I would agree that 3 years is not enough time. In this case however you are wrong. He inherited a team that won a title, his job was not development but maintenance. Now that is a tougher job, but it's a job that has a shorter time frame. Teams don't stay at the top forever, so when you have championship expectations they need to be met quickly before they become unreal expectations. This firing is right up there with Avery Johnson's firing as the correct move. Both are good coaches that will find success elsewhere.
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The PipDiv-I Stud
528 days ago
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If Dumars blows up this team he'll regret it, they need tweaking not nuking.
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KelsdadAll-Star
528 days ago
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I heard two things this morning worthy of being repeated;

The Pistons next coach will be Michael Curry;

Rasheed Wallace is gone.
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BigPPupMajor Leaguer
528 days ago
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The Pistons can be the greatest team in the NBA because of Rasheed, and they can be a complete waste of space because of Sheed
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OvertheedgeVarsity
528 days ago
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anyone with a brain saw this coming
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
528 days ago
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people without eyes saw this coming.
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Jerjets11JV Squad
527 days ago
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Blaming Saunders for the Pistons is pointless and dumb. This is a team that isn't hungry anymore. They got their title. I never understand teams that hang the coach when the roster is clearly the issue. Oh well, they are in Cleveland's division and we do appreciate the help.
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