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Sj-hypocycloid
Mike Frangione has engaged himself in the noble calling of sportswriting over the years (1991-1997, and again in 2007), enjoying two stints covering (stringing) High School sports for my local newspaper in South Jersey. That was a great learning experience and also a great deal of fun.

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SJ's Title Game Madness: Devil's Advocate

by Sj-hypocycloid
created January 16, 2009, last edited February 10, 2009
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What would be the worst case scenario for a Steelers fan who also pulls for the local-team Eagles? Why, a Ravens/Cardinals Super Bowl, of course.

Could that happen? Sure it could. Arizona and Baltimore didn't get here because they lost games. They're here because they won games. Some pretty good ones.

The Ravens beat the Lazurus-like Miami Dolphins and the AFC's top-seeded Titans to get here, causing all sorts of havoc on defense and taking the ball away from these two teams, that, prior to facing Baltimore did a good job of taking care of the ball.

The Cardinals beat the surprising - and should be good for years to come - Falcons and the suddenly turnover-prone Caolina Panthers. On paper, both teams are better than the Cards. But as the Talking Heads once intoned: "Go ahead, tear it up...rip up the paper."

Let's look at some Raven facts for a moment. They've already lost to the Steelers twice this season, and they are 1-3 against the Mike Tomlin-led Black & Gold. As if they needed anything to stoke their hatred of the Steelers, all they need to do is remember November 5, 2007 - a Monday Night Football game in which the Steelers destroyed the Ravens 38-7. How could you ask for more in terms of hate than to be humliliated on national television? That was then, this is now.

As for the Cardinals, they could use that 48-20 Thanksgiving Day loss as a stick. I can tell you that the Philadelphia media and fans are never more annoying than at times like this.

And before we go down that road, let me state here that Philadelphia fans are great fans. They don't take losing lightly and they expect their teams to give their all. The fans get a bad rap, and I am not, in any way, saying anything negative here. What I said earlier is merely the impression one can get when listening to a Philly-based sports radio show. It seems that only the losers and loonies call in. Write it down - Philly has a great fan base.

Now, on to the rhetoric that I am hearing...Arizona has no chance. The evening drive guy on ESPN radio, Mike Missanelli, dismisses without any hope of refutation any talk that the Cardinals even have a chance. As though the very notion is patently impossible.

After hate, there's nothing like disrespect to get a team going.

The Ravens come at you. Dare you to TRY to move the ball on their defense. They hit hard and intimidate and they prey bloodthirstily on opposing quarterbacks. Especially inexperienced ones. They pride themselves on limiting running backs to sub-100 yard days and on creating turnovers.

With bright, shiny talent on defense - names we all know - like Ray Lewis, Ed Reed and Terrell Suggs (maybe) and lesser known names on offense like Todd Heap, Joe Flacco and Le'Ron McClain (who ripped off numerous solid runs to the tune of 23 carries for 87 yards against Pittsburgh's number one defense in their December 14th 13-9 loss), the Ravens are not going to be cowed by streaks or a historical numbers and what they say about teams beating teams three times in the same season.

Let jerks like sj-hypocycloid predict that the Steelers will score 30 points on that D. We'll see who gets the last laugh when there are four zeros on the clock, won't we?

As for the Cardinals, they're playing with house money, right? They barely won a crap division, lost badly to the team they're going to face and have gotten so so so lucky in the playoffs. I mean, who, besides Nostradamus, saw Carolina turning the ball over six times?

With a Super Bowl winning (and losing) quarterback in Kurt Warner, a playoff-experienced running back in Edgerrin James, a playoff-experienced head coach and assistant head coach in Ken Whisenhunt and Russ Grimm, why should the Cardinals feel they have anything other than a great chance to win?

In addition to that QB, RB and coaches, they've got a couple of great-to-very-good receivers in Larry Fitzgerald, Anquan Boldin and Steve Breaston. I'm quite sure they're going to get their fair share of catches.

No team has been more disrespected during this playoff run - and especially this week - than the Arizona Cardinals. I'm sure they've heard and reacted to all the knocks and posted some bulletin board material. Will it be enough?

No matter what happens, all four teams have given us some good football to watch and have provided their fans with many great moments to savor forever. Two will lose - it's just the nature of the beast.

I, of course, am rooting for the Steelers and Eagles. But I would not be shocked at all to see things go another way. Since 1994, Pittsburgh (2-4) and Philadelphia (1-3) are a combined 3-6 in title games and 1-2 in Super Bowls. Quite a dubious result from two teams that have won so much in the past 15 years.

The Bill Cowher-led Steelers exorcised their demons by winning Super Bowl XLII in January 2005. Can Tomlin match his predecessor? The Eagles have known little more than heartbreak in the NFL's biggest game. Could this be their year?

Or is this the year of the Cardinals/Ravens Super Bowl? I don't know about you, but I can't wait to find out!


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Steel TownDraft Pick
299 days ago
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"Or is this the year of the Cardinals/Ravens Super Bowl?"


Yeah, No.
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JuTMSY4Legend
299 days ago
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As a purely objective fan...does anyone want to see the Cardinals in the SB? I'll be honest here, I'm not sure how good of a shot Philly has at beating either Baltimore or Pittsburgh (they did beat the Steelers earlier this year but got spanked by the Ravens in the now infamous McNabb benching game). But, they clearly have a better shot of making the Super Bowl a game compared to the Cardinals. Who knows, maybe the Cardinals will shock the world a la the Giants last year, but honestly, a Cardinals SB has shit sandwich written all over it...practically any other NFC playoff team would make the game more exciting
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RawbeezeitzMajor Leaguer
299 days ago
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I do.
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CheezerAll-Star
299 days ago
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At this point, I would take any match-up.

The Cards are a great story and America loves the under-dog. I also think that the Cards receivers would prove to be a challenge for either of the AFC teams.
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RomiezzoLegend
299 days ago
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Imagine it actually is...
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JuTMSY4Legend
299 days ago
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mark it down, if the Cards make the Super Bowl:

A) If the Cards make the Super Bowl, it will be a blowout lame game

B) It will be one of the lowest rated SBs in recent memory...
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Sj-hypocycloidAll-American
299 days ago
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If it was against the Steelers, I think the ratings would at least creep up to decent. They're a team people would tune in to see.


That said, it's the Super Bowl. It'll get ratings. Especially since about 35 percent (I'm guessing here) of the viewers will be tuning in just for the commercials anyway.
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CheezerAll-Star
299 days ago
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"And before we go down that road, let me state here that Philadelphia fans are great fans. They don't take losing lightly and they expect their teams to give their all. The fans get a bad rap, and I am not, in any way, saying anything negative here." So please don't throw batteries at me.

I kid, I kid.
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Sj-hypocycloidAll-American
299 days ago
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You better watch it! :-)
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Steel TownDraft Pick
299 days ago
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Pittsburgh throws batteries too. Ask Dave Parker.
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Sj-hypocycloidAll-American
299 days ago
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Ha ha - forgot about that. I loved "The Cobra" when I was a kid.
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Steel TownDraft Pick
299 days ago
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I still rock the jersey.
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CheezerAll-Star
299 days ago
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I just love to see the perennial also-rans still in the hunt this late in the season.
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JuTMSY4Legend
299 days ago
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I hate hearing the phrase house money

what the fuck does it mean? Were they gambling? Does it mean they don't stand to lose anything? Sure they do...they stand to lose the fucking NFC Title game...

Its so dumb...

And yes, a 48-20 loss does mean something...it means the Eagles absolutely rolled on their asses. The Eagles had the same number of days to prepare for the Cards (3) but they didn't have to travel. The Eagles also walked in wounded from a previous whooping (The Ravens).

If it was a 28-20 loss or even something remotely close, I would understand it, but teams that get blown out...by 28...can't blame it on jet lag...even though the game was played at 8pm...i.e. 6pm Arizona time

And in an unrelated note: Schlereth, Hoge, Cowherd, Duerson, Esiason, Carton and Simmons

All those guys picked the Cards...and most of them straight up and/or with the Eagles D giving up 30+ (like Duerson's 31-14 rolling)
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JuTMSY4Legend
299 days ago
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and Davis's Tecmo Bowl sim - what an asshole ; - )
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Sj-hypocycloidAll-American
299 days ago
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Don't shoot the messenger, dude. I said I was playing devil's advocate! Man, you Philly fans are touchy! :-)
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RawbeezeitzMajor Leaguer
299 days ago
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"Touchy" doesn't begin to describe them.
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JuTMSY4Legend
299 days ago
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ha, this "house money" thing has pissed me off for a few weeks...last week the eagles were playing with "house money"

No...they weren't...

no one was...

its a stupid phrase and it doesn't mean anything...
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Sj-hypocycloidAll-American
299 days ago
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Let me know if you want me to remove it! Life's too short such irritation!
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Sj-hypocycloidAll-American
299 days ago
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Christ..."FOR such irritation" :-(
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RawbeezeitzMajor Leaguer
299 days ago
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"House money" is a misleading phrase in gambling, as well. The proper way to look at games such as black jack or craps, or even poker (although you're never up against the house in poker so you can't have their money), is as one neverending session with long breaks in between hands. You never have house money. Ever. The money becomes yours. When you're up, you have your own money to bet, not the house's. And guess what, over a long enough period of time, you'll lose every bit of it and then some.


If you're ever fortunate enough to have so-called "house money," the intelligent thing to do is to leave. The least intelligent thing to do is to increase your bets and/or take bigger chances. And you do have something to lose. All that house money is your money now.
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Sj-hypocycloidAll-American
299 days ago
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Are there any Ravens fans on this site? I haven't heard a peep from any Baltimore backer.
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JuTMSY4Legend
299 days ago
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If Baltimore's offense plays well, they'll win... and if the Cards beat the Eagles, I'll be rooting for the Ravens
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RawbeezeitzMajor Leaguer
299 days ago
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I'm a Ravens fan for the week.
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Sj-hypocycloidAll-American
299 days ago
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Jut, Rooting for the Ravens? How could you? Just for that, I'm going to take all of your "Here Comes Treble" mp3's. :-)
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JuTMSY4Legend
299 days ago
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Funny story...a family friend (a really good one) was a Browns fan...born around Cleveland in the 80s...

He went to Pitt for undergrad (hated the Steelers) and then went to U of Baltimore for Law...he's now an attorney in Annapolis and I'm pretty sure the Browns moving to Baltimore could not have worked out better for him...he switched without issue and has been happy...he's one of those guys I consider a true baltimore fan

Flacco also went to U-Del...a predominantly Eagles area in general

Oh and SJ, did you watch it last night...I thought decent at best...
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Sj-hypocycloidAll-American
299 days ago
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Yeah, it was decent. It's been better since they've been kinda restoring the setup to its original state. I am glad to see a resolution at last. I didn't think I could feel sorry for Andy, but I did. And I think Dwight is better off as well.


I don't think I can root for the Ravens no matter who they play.
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Steel TownDraft Pick
299 days ago
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If Baltimore's offense plays well, they'll win


If my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle.
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JuTMSY4Legend
299 days ago
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I wouldn't expect you to The only reason I'd root for an NFC East rival is playoff implications and/or beating an undefeated team in the SB...i still feel dirty
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JuTMSY4Legend
299 days ago
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I'm only saying...I think Pittsburgh's offense is capable of scoring on the Ravens...Visa Versa? I'm not so sure... If the Ravens offense can put up 21 24 and limit turnovers? I think they can win...otherwise, I don't see the Ravens winning a 13-10 battle like they did with the Titans...the Steelers just aren't that dumb in the Red Zone...
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CheezerAll-Star
299 days ago
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Isn't Flacco from a predominantly Eagles region of NJ (Audubon)? If it's Ravens-Eagles, that in itself is an interesting story.
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Sj-hypocycloidAll-American
299 days ago
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Not as interesting as an anyone-Steelers Super Bowl.


Interesting side note: I covered Audubon twice in 2007. I believe Flacco's brother was on the team. But I don't remember seeing him play.
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Steel TownDraft Pick
299 days ago
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He also bailed on Pitt cause he couldn't land the starting job when Wanstache came to town.
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JuTMSY4Legend
299 days ago
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"He also bailed on Pitt cause he couldn't land the starting job when Wanstache came to town. " That worked out well...
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Steel TownDraft Pick
299 days ago
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If only Wanstache could have been the one to bail on Pitt.
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Anonymous Fanatic #1
299 days ago
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Flacco's brother played WR at Audubon, but he may play QB his senior year.
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Anonymous Fanatic #1
299 days ago
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Eagles/Ravens would be a good story. Of course we'd have to classify that one as a fantasy because neither team has a chance.
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