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Mike Frangione has engaged himself in the noble calling of sportswriting over the years (1991-1997, and again in 2007), enjoying two stints covering (stringing) High School sports for my local newspaper in South Jersey. That was a great learning experience and also a great deal of fun.

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Roger Goodell And Michael Vick: Together Again?

by Sj-hypocycloid
created July 21, 2009, last edited August 27, 2009
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All right, so Michael Vick has served his time and paid his debt to society. So now it's just a matter of time before he signs with an NFL club, right?

Not so fast. NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell has determined that now that the legal part of Vick's woes have reached an end, it's the NFL's turn to pronounce a judgment.

Mike & Mike In The Morning had former MLB Commissioner Fay Vincent on this morning. Vincent said something along the lines of why should the NFL punish Vick any further than the law already has? The judge handed down a sentence, Vick served it, and in the eyes of the law, he's served his time.

I will freely admit that I have wavered on Vick quite a bit, unable to decide if I felt that Vick should be allowed to play or not. I think I am now leaning toward the idea that he should be allowed to - if he can.

There are a bunch of NFL teams that could use a quarterback, even one as raw as Michael Vick. He was an exciting and talented player, no doubt, but I don't think he would be mistaken for a traditional, pocket passing, ball control quarterback.

And that's fine. His style of play was good enough to land the Falcons in the playoffs and to score impressive wins in 2002 (27-7 over the Packers) and 2004 (47-17 over the Rams). I may be going out on a limb here, but I suspect that the Falcons could not have won those games, let alone been there to even play them, without Michael Vick.

So give him a shot. Training camps start soon, he'd be able to get himself in there and try out for a team. He'd have to deal with whatever controversy follows him, but I feel he should be given a shot.

Do I condone his actions? Of course not. Neither did the judge who presided over his trial. But that judge assigned a punishment, and now that punishment is finished. It seems that this action might not be good enough for Goodell.

And I can see his point. The NFL is a business after all, and it's in Goodell's (and the team owners) best interest to eliminate any potential PR problems, be they past, current or potential. There's no getting around the fact that Vick is now a 'controversial' figure.

Goodell wants him to demonstrate that he has reformed himself and that he can and will be a productive member of society. In the interest of protecting the multi-billion dollar entity that is the NFL, Goodell's thinking here makes lots of sense.

But if Vick has been punished by the law, while he is hardly innocent, he is, theoretically, available to rejoin the workforce. And his profession happens to be football player. Despite my personal feelings about what he did, I think the NFL should back off and see what happens.

This isn't like other situations that Goodell has had to preside over. This case actually has an ending. Vick was convicted, sent to prison and released. If Vick does something dumb and gets himself in trouble in the ensuing weeks, then Goodell can pounce, and he'd be in the right. He is correct that the NFL brand is a very valuable one, and one that cannot afford to be tarnished by the players that are the most visible face of that brand.

Personally, I think Vick should seek out other options. The CFL or the UFL would certainly be interested in having an exciting, talented player like Vick in their midst. The CFL offers distance. The UFL offers newness, a lack of the bright spotlight that is constantly on the NFL, and most importantly, the need for a splash.

I think that Vick and the UFL would be a good fit. They have some good, experienced former NFL coaches there (Jim Fassel, Dennis Green, Jim Haslett and Ted Cottrell), any of which would surely be able to deal with Vick's notoriety.

The other great thing the UFL would offer is a chance at redemption. Vick could ply his trade, earn money to pay off debts and possibly work out any issues that might be plaguing him. If all goes well, he could spend two or three years there, and then look to the NFL again.

It's a shame that ESPN has reported that Vick has little interest in either of these two leagues. If Vick did go to either league and was a model citizen and demonstrated "genuine remorse" (I find this notion of Goodell's distasteful), I think Goodell would be more than willing to listen.

After all, if Vick does well, and becomes the crowd pleaser he once was, the dollars will follow. And I can't imagine that there is any dollar that Goodell would allow to escape the NFL's coffers.

Resources: Mike & Mike In The Morning, Pro Football Reference and the article "For Vick, Freedom Rekindles Debate; Return to the NFL Remains a Question" from the July 21 Washington Post.


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CheezerAll-Star
130 days ago
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Vick paid his debt to society and deserves a second chance, but he needs to be watched closely.

On another note, part of what bothers me when we say that so and so paid his debt to society is how that debt is rendered. We do not know what kind of special treatment these "stars" get during sentencing because of their "star" status. Meaning it is difficult to say whether they've served their debt to society when the amount of debt could be skewed due to their status.
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HeywoodJablomeWaterboy
130 days ago
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Or the other way around: perhaps he time might have been rougher (as it has been suggested with Bernard Madoff) and he paid too much debt?
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SSreportersLegend
130 days ago
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Honestly I consider Vick a very talented running back.


If Donte Stallworth can get 30 days (actually even less than that) for killing a fellow human being and may still have a slight chance of playing football again should his suspension be lifted then why not let Vick back?


If Leonard Little can also be convicted of DUI manslaughter and then proceed to end up as a Pro Bowl linebacker a few years later (and then arrested again for drunk driving in 2004) then let Vick back.


He'll get booed, slandered, insulted, the whole nine yards. But hey, he served a lot more time for a dogfighting ring than Little and Stallworth did for killing people drunk (and in Stallworth's case high as well) combined.


Sure he can come back.
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CheezerAll-Star
130 days ago
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There could be that...
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CheezerAll-Star
130 days ago
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So SSR, two wrongs make a right? I thought Stallworth got off easy. I thought Little got off easy. I think Vick got off easy.

What id you aor I did what they did? How much time would we get?
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Sj-hypocycloidAll-American
130 days ago
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Cheeze - good points. Excellent food for thought.


Heywood - I don't think Madoff can serve enough time. It's a shame they can only convict him once.


SSR - Totally agree. More plusses if I could.
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Sj-hypocycloidAll-American
130 days ago
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And Cheeze - re: your second point, they did get off easy. And I agree that the penalties would be much less favorable for you and me. I think (and I am not trying to speak for SSR) that SSR was using those points as a comparison to Vick, as opposed to making a judgment on their crimes.


Stallworth ought to be very grateful indeed for the punishment he got. Hard to believe.
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HeywoodJablomeWaterboy
130 days ago
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Madoff is irrelvant, that wasn't my point. My point was, don't just think that players are either treated the same or easier. Because of their stature, who knows what other inmates or guards treat them like.
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SSreportersLegend
130 days ago
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Cheezer you didn't understand the tone of my comment.


I'm saying that Stallworth and Little got bullcrap sentences for killing people due to reckless behavior and one of them got to play in the NFL for several years and win a ring and earn many honors like being an All-Pro selection.


If our moral values and priorities have it that


Dogfighting = 21 months


and

Killing human beings while drunk = 30 days and a crapload of probation and being banned from driving or 90 days and probation in Little's case.


Then it says a lot about our justice system.


If that were you or me we'd probably be in jail for 5-10 years instead of a slap on the wrist and no more driving forever.


I think the likes of PETA and ASPCA played a major role in making this a lot bigger than it really is and hence probably why he got that type of sentence.


Let me put it this way.


I don't condone dogfighting rings and killing dogs nor do I condone drunk driving. But if Little has been allowed to play for several years after his manslaughter conviction than it makes no sense to withhold Vick from playing in the NFL.
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HeywoodJablomeWaterboy
130 days ago
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You need to understand the sentences before thinking some wayward judge just handed out 30 days for Stallworth because it seemed fair. You also must remember that the legal system we are all a part of places different values on different actions - DUI manslaughter being a specific one.

Vick also committed his crime covertly. Stallworth called 911 and the financial settlement certainly meant something as well. Sure, most of us don't have those types of financial means, but to further attack a man who's doing all within his means to right a wrong the best he can seems awfully holier-than-thou, doesn't it?

Little's case doesn't apply. Goodell wasn't commish and this new system of suspensions for personal activity didn't really exist (at least not like it does now) then
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Steel TownDraft Pick
130 days ago
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I think Vick actually got a harsher sentence than you or I would have gotten.
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LIVEFREEORDIETRYINGJV Squad
130 days ago
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yea he did get a harsher sentence because hes a role model and kids look up to him. i personaly do not want to see him back on the football field to teach younger players a lesson. (also im tired of seeing him on sportscenter)
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LIVEFREEORDIETRYINGJV Squad
130 days ago
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yea he did get a harsher sentence because hes a role model and kids look up to him. i personaly do not want to see him back on the football field to teach younger players a lesson. (also im tired of seeing him on sportscenter)
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