Release The List

David Ortiz was found to have tested positive for the 'anonymous' 2003 steroid list, along with former teammate Manny Ramirez. They join Sammy Sosa and Alex Rodriguez as names that have been leaked from that list just this year. That leaves about one-hundred names yet to be revealed, and you've got to hope they don't keep on releasing these names one or two at a time. Yes, steroids are banned, blah blah blah, but this test was in 2003, and there are a lot more players who are still in the dark. Is there a plan to personally humiliate each one of these guys one by one? As guilty as the players are, MLB has to admit that this qualifies as entrapment.

If they would give the rest of the names up, we all know we'd see it on ESPN, along with all the news stations. We'd see the names, and we would make our judgment as a whole. Do you think it's a coincidence that Ortiz and Ramirez were revealed together? Come on, that's a bread and butter news story. They were the saviors of Boston baseball, they broke the curse and every Yankee fan's heart many times in the last few years (I'd know). Whoever is responsible for giving out the names is doing so to make a splash in the sport. They sure are succeeding. They waited just enough time for Ortiz to break out of that terrible slump he began the season with.

Release the list. Baseball is American sport, but lately, it's been more like the Great American Scandal. We need to put that generation of players behind us, but that cannot begin until this list is cleared. Baseball is a sport full of heroes, and we need to know who we can believe in. Don't make the fans suffer for those idiotic players who made bad decisions. Give us fans a chance to embrace the sport we once loved. 

Sj-hypocycloidAll-American

122 days ago

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The release of the names will cause more suffering for fans. I'm sure there are names on that list that you'd never suspect. My belief that baseball is full of heroes has never been weaker. It really doesn't matter anymore. Release the list just to get it over with. I'll still watch baseball, but it will never be the same for me. Too many people have already tainted it...and continue to do so.

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RomiezzoLegend

121 days ago

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I will be a baseball fan forever... no matter what happens to the sport. If I can watch this, I can get through anything; that's the way I see it.

This user is a fan of America's Favorite Only Pastime.

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Davis21wylieMVP

121 days ago

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I don't even care who's on the list at this point -- they're not really the guilty ones anyway, Selig is ultimately guilty for creating and breeding an environment in which PED use was condoned (if not out-and-out encouraged). We wanted the hot dogs, but we didn't want to know how they were made... and now we're supposed to act surprised when we finally find out that we've been eating pig intestines this whole time? Release the list, don't release it, I don't care. But whatever you do, kick Selig out of baseball forever for his role in this scandal.

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RomiezzoLegend

121 days ago

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I wouldn't let the players off that easy. They've got to be somewhat guilty. However, you are correct that Selig revolutionized baseball, a sport that once had integrity. Ban Selig from baseball forever!!!!!!!!!!

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Sj-hypocycloidAll-American

121 days ago

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Selig is a symptom of the problem. He's a sock puppet of the owners (and was an owner himself), who was placed in the role to allow them a more free reign to do what they liked.

It's true that the commissioner was always pretty much on the owner's 'side' but at least with guys like Kuhn, Ueberroth and Fay Vincent, we the fans could at least delude ourselves that there was some governing authority. And to a degree, there was. Certainly moreso than now.

Selig is carrying out the baseball manifesto to perfection. Butts in the seats, more offense, huge TV revenues, longer seasons - it's all working perfectly. Bravo. And the players union is just as guilty. Both parties knew/know what was/is going on. As long as the big money comes in, everyone clams up.

Blame the owners. And the players. Selig is just a sad mouthpiece who tries (badly) to cover errant tracks. Sorry, I can't help my negativity. It's just such a poor joke. I have to separate myself from all this crap just to be able to enjoy a baseball season anymore. If I really worried about this kind of guano, I'd never watch baseball again.

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RawbeezeitzMajor Leaguer

121 days ago

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Bring back Kenesaw Mountain Landis.

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Davis21wylieMVP

121 days ago

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I would have called out Fehr as well for his role, but he's stepping down. It's time for Bud to follow suit.

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JuTMSY4Legend

121 days ago

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The crime in all of this is, we'll never know who was actually clean.

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RomiezzoLegend

121 days ago

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Exactly! In the MLB, everyone's guilty, and they can't even be proven innocent. It's a shame... a real shame.

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JuTMSY4Legend

121 days ago

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You also don't know which of your favorite players (or members of your favorite team) are juicing, but odds are its at least a few I'm bracing for impact.

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Sj-hypocycloidAll-American

121 days ago

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There isn't a name in baseball that would surprise me. And this isn't going away because naive simpletons like me want it to. Roids and HGH is here to stay.

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JuTMSY4Legend

121 days ago

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A college buddy and I were discussing: We thing Cal would hurt the most

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Sj-hypocycloidAll-American

121 days ago

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I agree totally. He'd be a major blow. Personally, I'd be bummed if Griffey Jr. is on that list.

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JuTMSY4Legend

121 days ago

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Y'know, he's the only one who's looked normal throughout this: Obviously he was a stud (his dad was a good ballplayer too) and he's always had that swing. But once he hit 30, age got to him...like a normal player

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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer

121 days ago

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Want to give yourself a headache? Just think about all the thousands of dudes who juiced and still never made it to the bigs...

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EvanLongoriaFan3Varsity

121 days ago

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It's not fair to Ortiz and Ramirez that there names got released but everyone else didn't get there name released, it may cause more suffering but its fair.

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Sj-hypocycloidAll-American

121 days ago

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Its not fair to me as a fan that I have to accept this crap as baseball. But I deal. And I have millions less bucks than these jerks. It seems to me that they got what they wanted and how they got there was something they knew was wrong. If their names get out there for being cheaters, then they reap what they sow. No pity from this baseball fan.

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JuTMSY4Legend

121 days ago

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More plusses if I could I was just about to say the same thing...

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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer

121 days ago

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I gave all ya the list of confirmed clean players way back on July 10, 2006! (Man. That article gets better EVERY day) But BIG SURPRISE that ManRam and Big Poopi were on this list, eh? I mean pro sports teams from Boston NEVER cheat, right?

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BigPPupMajor Leaguer

121 days ago

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You cant release the list. Arrest the jackass for leaking this info but for as great as it would be you cannot release the list. You can go to a guy and say tell me everything it won't hurt you and no one will know, and then turn around 6 yrs later and send all the information public

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Taytay 24All-American

121 days ago

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Ditto. Anyone who tests positive now is fair game, but the 2003 tests were performed with the agreement that they were anonymous.

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CoryMcKnightSoccer Kid

121 days ago

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At this point, there are only a few select players that would shock me if they were on the list. Those players would be Jeter, Griffey, Chipper, Maddux, Glavine, Moyer, and Buehrle. It would be an extremely sad day in baseball if one of those guys were on that list.

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PmoehrinVarsity

121 days ago

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Why?

If your looking for some type of closure to this, releasing this list isn't going to bring it, I can tell you that right now, because it's not like this is a list of every player who's cheated. It's just the guys who got caught. We'll never know the name of every single player who cheated, so why bother trying to find out.

People seem to be on this search for this greatest baseball of the steroid era who didn't take steroids. Anytime you put that title on somebody, your just setting him and you up for a downfall.

Right now the MLB has the toughest drug testing policy of any of the four major sports, and has done so with one of the toughest unions in the country fighting them every bit of the way to get it. I don't know what else people really want them to do to prevent the problem at this point.

The only thing that's really going to put a stop to this is if the players start policing themselves, but I don't see that happening either.

The NFL has just as big of a problem with steroids if not bigger then baseball, and yet they don't even get one tenth the coverage the MLB does.

I've said this in the Rose article, and I'll say it here, if steroids mean that much to people, then they should stop following sports like Major League Baseball because they aren't going away anytime soon.

If your not willing to do that, then I suggest to quit being so damn naive. If you were surprised by Ortiz, Ramirez, Arod or anyone else that's come out in the past year given all the information we already know about the era, then you've been doing a great job of fooling yourself.

If you want to say that maybe releasing the list will stop all these leaks and will shut the media up about this issue to at least some degree, I'll buy that argument. But if your expecting it to do anything else, you will be immensely disappointed.

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AllikskatJV Squad

121 days ago

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I agree, I don't think there will ever be closure on steroids, it's an impossible notion. But at the rate we're going, do you really want to hear about this list for the next ten or so years? with new names dripping out once every few months? Come on, this list/test happened quite a while ago. Can we really keep demonizing each and every player who tested positive almost seven years ago? Chances are there are players on the list who we couldn't care less about, and many who don't even play anymore. Yeah release the list. I'm sick of this story. This is not how you handle a sticky situation...Rip the bandaid off!

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MojoRisinLittle Leaguer

121 days ago

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There's no doubt about it: the list should be revealed. If not just for the fact that it would be fair to those who have already been caught red handed and there names have been released. Instead of allowing the names to slowly dissipate thinly out into the public. It's not like releasing the names is going to unleash inclement pain on everybody watching. We aren't stupid -- we all know steroids are prevalent. So let's observe the list, shall we?!

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Anonymous Fanatic #1

117 days ago

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Baseball when is it not a circus let's see in the last 15 years they striked and canceled the postseason, let the all-star game end in a tie, Pump the players with PED's in the late 90's and revered and honored them (Sosa, McGwire) then conspried to bring them down ( bonds) Now the latest having "annoymous" testing and releasing the names of the postive tests whenever the feel like it but only relasing some of the names. (Arod, Ortiz, Manny, Bonds) I for one is getting tired of being treated like an A-hole by baseball they will never relase the whole list they are way too arrogant or just incompent for that. Maybe they will have some more hearings in front of congress that should be entertaning.

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Pittsburgh GunnyMajor Leaguer

117 days ago

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I really don't care for summer repeats.

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