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Cougar2000
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Rays, Red Sox not exactly playing nice

by Cougar2000
created June 06, 2008, last edited February 10, 2009
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Don't look now but the long running feud between the defending World Champions Boston Red Sox and Tampa Bay (Devil) Rays has taken yet another turn. In last night's game, Boston outfielder Coco Crisp was caught stealing in the eighth when he slid in on second baseman Akinori Iwamura and was out stealing. After Julio Lugo struck out, Rays manager Joe Maddon went to the mound to remove pitcher relief pitcher Jason Hammel, he turned toward the Red Sox dugout and said something to Crisp.

The two exchanged words and not a whole lot else for the rest of the game. That was last night.

Tonight, the volcano erupted and it was as if the gates of Hell had not just been opened but kicked in. This time, it was Crisp and Tampa Bay starter James Shields. Shields hit Crisp on the hip and it was on. Big time. Crisp dropped his bat, charged the mound and ducked a wild right by Shields before throwing a few punches himself.

Crisp was tackled to the ground by Tampa Bay catcher Dioner Navarro. Rays designated hitter Jonny Gomes charged the mound from the dugout, jumped on Navarro and Crisp, and threw several punches that hit Crisp while he was on the ground. Wait... wasn't Gomes involved in an incident in spring training? I do believe he was. Are we finally seeing some fight in this ballclub? Let's hope so.

“I protected my own players and that’s what we need to do around here,” Shields said. “We’ve been getting stomped around the last 10 years and it isn’t going to happen anymore. I had to let them know early and let them know right away.” In other words, Shields went Twisted Sister on the Red Sox. Expect to be called on the carpet by principal Bob Watson, gentlemen.

So now the rivalry between the defending World Champs and a team long considered the fair-haired stepchild of the American League East have opened up a new can of worms. These two teams meet again in St. Petersburg June 30th-July 2nd. If these two teams are as close to each other then as they are now, I can imagine the body count will be a bit higher. Crisp had best watch his back in St. Pete and not go anywhere alone. Right now, he may be the most hated man in Florida since Ted Bundy. For all practical purposes, he has the mark of Cain on his head.

And (Devil) Rays fans are chomping at the bit. Let's get ready to RUMMMMMMBLE!



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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
557 days ago
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Crisp started the whole incident because he's a pussy. He "hurt" his thumb sliding into Jason Bartlett (who was merely trying to make a play - he wasn't blocking the bag) then made things WORSE when he decided it was a good idea to steal a base with a lead in the 8th inning and on top of it, do a take out slide on the OTHER guy than the one he was TRYING TO HURT.

Even when he got plunked - which EVERYONE KNEW HE WAS GOING TO, he should have manned up, put his head down and walked to first. Instead he got beat up like the pussy he is - and will get a suspension because of it.

He should learn how to play baseball.
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SSreportersLegend
557 days ago
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Stop including "Devil" in there in any shape or form, it's been erased so don't put it back in.


As for the fight, it pales in comparison to any other baseball fight I've seen, but dang those Rays are feisty. I guess that Spring Training brawl with the Yankees was also part of the training.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
557 days ago
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If you call them the Devil Rays and you're trying to be "witty" about it, then call the Red Sox the Americans. Call the Yankees the Orioles and call the Orioles the Browns (or Brewers). Otherwise it's just shenanigans that aren't even mildly funny.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
557 days ago
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Ya know, even "my way" with the original team names STILL isn't funny.
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Cougar2000All-American
557 days ago
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No, not trying to be witty. I just remember the team as the Devil Rays before the change.
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SSreportersLegend
557 days ago
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I think the Rays have found the alternate solution to winning the AL East (and maybe the pennant) if all else fails and that is brute force.;-)


I mean, you don't hear Syracuse Orangemen anymore do ya? So why should the D-Word formerly in front of Rays still be mentioned?
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Taytay 24All-American
557 days ago
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St Johns Red Men, Washington Bullets, Washington Senators, Winnipeg Jets, Hartford Whalers, Baltimore Colts, New Orleans Jazz, etc.
Life moves fast. Try to keep up.
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Cougar2000All-American
556 days ago
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I did not know that about Oregon's nickname.
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Cougar2000All-American
557 days ago
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It's what some people remember the team as before the name change. It's sort of like getting married and keeping your maiden name. With regard to Syracuse, they are still called the Orangmen (primarly becuase they were named for a group of Protestants that marched through Catholic communities.).
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SSreportersLegend
557 days ago
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Fair enough, do you still call the Brewers the Pilots?
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Taytay 24All-American
557 days ago
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It's not really like a woman keeping her maiden name at all, since they didn't keep Devil Rays, but in fact did change it to just Rays. So what you are doing is like continuing to call a woman by her maiden name after she has married and taken her husband's name. Wow, that's awkward.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
556 days ago
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That's not awkward, that's Hollywood!!!
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
556 days ago
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Or they could hyphenate... Tampa Bay Devil Rays-Rays???
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Cougar2000All-American
557 days ago
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No. I call them the Milwaukee Brewers.
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SSreportersLegend
557 days ago
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The Oregon Ducks were known as the Oregon Tall Firs, do you still call them that?


So what makes a difference with Devil?
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Taytay 24All-American
557 days ago
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Ah, but do you still put them in the American League? Cause, you know, some people were used to that.
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SSreportersLegend
557 days ago
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And.....I just made a mountain out of a molehill about a name.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
556 days ago
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At least you didn't threaten to ban anyone (this time)
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Cougar2000All-American
557 days ago
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Consider yourself forgiven, SS. Here's what I'm planning on doing this week. I will contact the ballclub with regard to the name. Whatever they say it is, that will be fine with me.
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Taytay 24All-American
557 days ago
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I'll save you a phone call: Tampa Bay Rays Official Website.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
557 days ago
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I'll save you the 50 cents - Tampa Bay Rays Professional Baseball Club

BTW, the name change was done by the team TWO years ago, MLB dragged it's feet and wouldn't change it until this season.

The new ownership of the team did everything right and yet Bud Selig made sure that progress would happen very slowly.Don't punish the team, punish MLB for your inability to stop living in the past.

You probably still call him Lew Alcindor, eh?
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Taytay 24All-American
557 days ago
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Cassius Clay is the all-time best boxer.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
557 days ago
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Governor George W. Bush agrees with you.
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Taytay 24All-American
557 days ago
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Governor?!? I thought that guy was running the Rangers into the ground!
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Taytay 24All-American
557 days ago
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I can't believe he traded Sammy Sosa to the Cubs. If that guy starts taking some Flintstones vitamins, he could be a real slugger some day.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
556 days ago
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Ummm... Bush gets blamed for something else he didn't do (again)


He traded Sosa to the White Sox. With Scott Fletcher's brutal contract for Harold Baines. It really wasn't a bad deal at the time. Sosa was striking out 1 out of every 4 ABs...

It was the White Sox that really got duped, not Bush. They got the crusty remains of what used to be George Bell for Sosa.

(Of course, the Rangers then traded Baines for a half-eaten bag of airline peanuts, but I digress)
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Taytay 24All-American
556 days ago
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Aw, crap, I got in a hurry. But Bush himself said in an interview that his biggest regret was trading Sosa. Mind you, the interview was in the context of his presidency.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
556 days ago
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That's because Sosa used "Weapons of Mass Construction"...
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
556 days ago
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I just like busting Scott Fletcher's balls whenever possible. Fred Manrique was cool though.
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Cougar2000All-American
557 days ago
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Rays it is!
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
556 days ago
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atta boy!
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JuTMSY4Legend
556 days ago
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This is the least exciting fight of the game... What about Kevin Youkilis and Manny Ramiriez?
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Cougar2000All-American
556 days ago
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Sort of reminds you of Martin-Jackson, just in a different place and time.
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CheezerAll-Star
556 days ago
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Two metaphors(?what are these things called, writers?) that seem misplaced.

"Fair-haired stepchild". I've heard "red-headed stepchild" as a child that isn't really liked and I've heard "fair-haired child" as the favorite. What are you implying with "fair-haired stepchild"?

"mark of Cain"-The mark of Cain is the mark that God placed on Cain so no one would kill him. God wanted Cain to live out the curse that He placed upon him for killing Abel. Are you saying that Crisp is somehow protected?
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Cougar2000All-American
556 days ago
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No, Cheezer, just that he's bascially fair game for any Tampa Bay pitcher that wants to nail him.
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The PipDiv-I Stud
556 days ago
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First off the Gays are being bush-league. They always have been, and they always will be. Bartlett was blocking the bag, the replay clearly shows he was not only trying to make the play. Sure Coco could have handled it better, but throwing at someone is bush-league and it needs to stop before someone gets hurt. Both sides are to blame but if Tampa wants to start more ish and they'll get more ish.
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JuTMSY4Legend
556 days ago
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not taking your base is also bush league...

I'm not saying Francona told Crisp to charge (clearly he didn't), but to be surprised by getting hit (in the leg) happens in baseball a lot...

You can argue Bartlett's block all you want, that doesn't impact today's game...and where i'm from, when i pitcher (or team) wants to give a free base to one of your fastest players..you take it...

If I'm crisp...I'm stealing 2nd
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Sj-hypocycloidAll-American
555 days ago
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Throwing at someone isn't bush league. It used to be part of the game before multi-million dollar crybaby pals were playing. Gibson, Drysdale, et al had no qualms with nailing a batter. The batter knew it was coming, took the hit, and walked to the base. Situation over. It was fun when adults played the game.
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