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Playoff Matchup Analysis Unlike the Others and Ken Brett - 2008 MLB Playoffs' Patron Saint!

by Manny Stiles
created October 01, 2008, last edited June 21, 2009
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Dr. Commento breaks down the Division Series matchups using mostly meaningless trivia and tidbits from the annals of time...


Rays vs. White Sox: Guillen vs. Dave Martinez

Fun: Tropicana Field was originally built to lure the White Sox to Florida. It's true...

More Fun: "Tampa Bay" and "White Sox" both have 8 letters in a 5 and 3 sequence... Eeery!!

Mild Fun: The Bears and Buccaneers both kinda suck this year.

Plus there's Ozzie Guillen - he played his last MLB game as a member of the Tampa Bay Devil Rays

And Dave Martinez - the current Rays bench coach was a key White Sox player in the late 90's.


Notable players that played for both franchises:

Julio Franco, Jose Canseco, Roberto Hernandez, Wilson Alvarez, Charles Johnson, Greg Norton, Tanyon Sturtze, Toby Hall, Chad Bradford, Gary Glover and ESPN analyst Chris Singleton

Phillies vs. Brewers: Dale Sveum's Revenge!

Fun: Dale Sveum was a player for the Phillies and was a coach under former Phillies Manager Terry Francona - who played also for the Brewers once upon a time.


More Fun: Philadelphia is tied for the longest city name in baseball (12 letters) with San Francisco while Milwaukee is sixth longest behind also Washington, Los Angeles and Cincinnati.

Mild Fun: The Phillies were once known as the "Blue Jays" and the Baltimore Orioles before they were the St. Louis Browns were known as the "Milwaukee Brewers".

Yeah, I really don't have much for this matchup other than "4th and 26".

Notable players that played for both franchises:

Dale Sveum, Julio Franco, Tito Francona (that's Terry's Dad, BTW), Charlie Hayes, Geoff Jenkins, Doug Jones, Don Money, John Vukovich, Dan Plesac, Chris Short, Ken Brett, David Bell

Angels vs. Red Sox: The Fred Lynn Series!

Not so fun: Hello, 1986! Donnie Moore, Dave Henderson - these names will get dragged around too much - although I was an Angels fan in 1986, it's a sad story for any baseball fan.

Fun: "Red Sox" and "Angels" both have six letters.

Let's make it all about Fred Lynn instead! He left a furious start to his career in Boston and went on to hit the only Grand Slam in an All-Star game as a California Angel in 1983.

Mild fun: This matchup has the farthest possible travelling distance between any of the playoff teams.

Milder Fun: This is a fan base rematch of the 2008 NBA Finals!

Notable players that played for both franchises:

Fred Lynn, Don Baylor, Ken Brett, Bill Buckner, Orlando Cabrera, Dante Bichette, Tony Conigliaro, Gary Gaetti, Bartolo Colon, Rickey Henderson, Carney Lansford, Jim Leyritz, Jerry Remy, Mo Vaughn, Frank Tanana, Luis Tiant, Lee Smith, Spike Owen

Dodgers vs. Cubs: Rick Monday's Flag vs. Chad Kreuter's hat

Wow, a ton of history here. Both teams date back into the 1800's yet this is their first meeting in the postseason!

Fun: April 25, 1976 Cubs vs. Dodgers: A fan and his 11 year old son jumped on to the field in the fourth inning with an American Flag and a pint of lighter fluid. They were planning a protest of the treatment of American Indians by burning the flag. They put the flag in the grass and poured the fluid on it and were just about to light it. Cubs outfielder Rick Monday runs over and tackles the perpetrator and takes the flag to the delight of the patriotic crowd.

The next season he was traded to the Dodgers where he later became a World Series hero.


Not so Fun: May 16, 2000: At Wrigley Park. Chad Kreuter's hat was stolen by a fan from his head while he was in the bullpen. It sparked a vicious brawl that led to 24 players and coaches getting suspended a total of 60 games and the ejection of dozens of fans. Eventually all but seven players had their suspensions overturned.

Fun to me: Cubs fans call their favorite team "the lovable losers" but the Dodgers were the team that was first given that moniker - by Yankees fans in the 1950's.

Mild Fun: The Angels used to play in "Wrigley Field" in Los Angeles (Yes, there was a Wrigley Field in L.A.). Wrigley Field didn't have Wrigley Park's trademark ivy. The Dodgers were offered use of the stadium when they first moved to Los Angeles but opted for the seating capacity and horrendous baseball dimensions of L.A. Coliseum over the superior baseball supportability and smaller capacity of Wrigley.


Notable players that played for both franchises:


Rick Monday, Bill Buckner, Don Zimmer, Ron Cey, Fred McGriff, Delino DeShields, Nomar Garciaparra, Luis Gonzalez, Eric Karros, Kenny Lofton, Greg Maddux, Bill Madlock, Fred Merkle, Juan Pierre, Rick Sutcliffe, Hoyt Wilhelm, Hack Wilson, Todd Zeile, Eric Young


The Patron Saints of this year's playoffs

Ken was considered the better of the Brett brothers for quite some time
Ken was considered the better of the Brett brothers for quite some time

Ken Brett - lefty pitcher and older brother of Hall of Famer George Brett - played for the Brewers, Red Sox, Angels, Phillies, Dodgers and White Sox.

Sadly, he died in 2003 after battling brain cancer (too many lids on his dome?) bravely for six years, but we honor his erratic and varied career by donning him patron saint of this year's playoffs!

  • I guess it's the Cubs and Rays who will avoid the "Curse of Ken Brett" if there is one - Keep in mind that Ken never won a World Series!!!

Second Place - Jay Johnstone played for both L.A. teams and both Chicago teams as well as the Phillies.


Expect more "fun" for the League Championship Series!!!

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Alex HolowczakHall of Famer
525 days ago
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I see MLB copies NFL in the "inappropriate naming of their playoff rounds" stakes. I assume there were once two divisions in each League, from where this round gets it's name?
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
525 days ago
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All three division winners play in this round, Alex... and the next round is the League Championship, so I fail to see your quandry.
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Alex HolowczakHall of Famer
524 days ago
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If it was the Division Playoffs, you'd expect the winners to be Division Champions, by definition. That's why I assumed their were once two divisions, and the top 2 in each division played-off for the title of division champion. Whereas 3 division winners + 1 wildcard doesn't make the winners of the two playoff games division champions.
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RomiezzoLegend
524 days ago
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That's true, Alex. But think about it: it's the US... where we MAKE things confusing for people. That was a good guess on very logical thinking... I don't know why it's called the League Division Series either... after saying that the respective teams "won the division" already. I would just call it the... AL/NL championship series semifinals or something...
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JuTMSY4Legend
525 days ago
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I've reach Rays Saturation point... Manny Stiles (Kettle) meet Red Sox Fans (Pot)...they'll show you around...
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
525 days ago
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Hot is Hot, and I was writing about them WAY more last season anyway!
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
525 days ago
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Funny thing is, JuT - there's far more Phillies content in her than Rays content.

In fact, there's hardly ANY Rays content in here!

Why dont you saturate this? (Now guess what I am clutching)
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JuTMSY4Legend
525 days ago
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Now guess what I am clutching Straws?
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JuTMSY4Legend
525 days ago
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Hey! That worked on a few different levels!
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
525 days ago
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Only if you use both hands.
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JuTMSY4Legend
525 days ago
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Well, that's just awkward for everybody involved...
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
525 days ago
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It's not awkward for me at all.
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AmphibiousSportsDuoVarsity
524 days ago
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I don't know how the series will turn out, but game 1 to JuT. Not a strong outing for the Rays in game 1.
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KelsdadAll-Star
525 days ago
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Luis Gonzalez and his one year with the Dodgers is listed as a "notable player" with both the Cubs and Dodgers, yet Rick Monday isn't?
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
525 days ago
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He's in the title of the Series!
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Sj-hypocycloidAll-American
524 days ago
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Jay Johnstone also had a memorable turn in the great baseball scenes in the hilarious 1988 Naked Gun movie!


"Hey Look! It's Enrico Pallazzo!"
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Sj-hypocycloidAll-American
524 days ago
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Ironic that Brett played for 6 of the teams in the playoffs and the picture is one of him on the one team that may never make the playoffs ever again!
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
524 days ago
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I chose the Pirates card on purpose... I could have gone with the Royals too, but they weren't as nice.
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Sj-hypocycloidAll-American
524 days ago
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The Royals were nice enough to lose to the Phillies in the 1980 World Series!
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CoreyisarealboyMajor Leaguer
524 days ago
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Yeah, I really don't have much for this matchup other than "4th and 26". I hate you.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
524 days ago
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I was gonna add the guy at the bar that Charles Barkley threw through a window but decided to stay more recent...

Seriously, Philadelphia and Milwaukee don't exactly have a long-standing rivalry.

Ooooh, Ooooh! Wisconsin Cheese vs. Philadelphia Cream Cheese!!!
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CheezerAll-Star
524 days ago
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4th and 26 reference = no vote from me. Sorry Manny, just can't do it.

Very enjoyable read.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
524 days ago
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Fair enough. You know me - I gotta go right to the band aid and yank it off then pick at the scab with a chainsaw.
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JuTMSY4Legend
524 days ago
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If you want to know what Philadelphia thinks of 4th and 26, I'll give you this tidbits:

The pass was thrown by a much maligned Donovan McNabb

It was caught by Freddie Mitchell

When you ask a Philadelphia fan about it, he'll tell you that it was great but that the team never should have been in that position to begin with

Its funny how a negative is so big for one place, but the opposite positive just isn't that big in others (its not a revered moment, though perhaps if the Eagles went on to win it all it might have been)...

meh, what the hell, why not:

1fred-mh111.jpg
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CheezerAll-Star
524 days ago
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Video of Rick Monday here
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
524 days ago
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Wow! I've seen pics but never saw the video before! Nice find!

You can even saw where they threw the can at him!

I read somewhere that Monday still has the flag.
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CheezerAll-Star
524 days ago
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Pretty amazing, eh?
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AmphibiousSportsDuoVarsity
524 days ago
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How about for the Dodgers/Cubs: The Dodgers were at one time called the Bridegrooms, the Cubs are always a bridesmaid and never a bride. This could also mean the Cubs get F'd by random guys in the pews/stands. Too much of a stretch?
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
524 days ago
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Not at all... I love it (especially since I predicted a Dodgers sweep)
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Oh No RomoDraft Pick
524 days ago
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You forgot Tony Graffanino!
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
524 days ago
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"Forgot" or "chose to know better"...

There were more players who were Rays AND White Sox in their careers, I wasn't listing them all...

There 250 Dodgers + Cubs...
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Anonymous Fanatic #1
523 days ago
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Dude, why are you saying the Bucs kind of suck? They're 3-1.
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SSreportersLegend
523 days ago
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Beating Chicago, Atlanta, and Green Bay while losing to New Orleans does not make them great.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
523 days ago
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It's what I do... ANon. News flash - the Bucs are still in the NFC.
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