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Niteowl049
Baseball fan following baseball since 1955. Have been fortunate enough to have seen Ted Williams, Mickey Mantle, Roger Maris, Johnny Bench, Roberto Clemente and Dale Murphy play baseball in Kansas City and Houston. Served in Army in Hawaii and Vietnam with 25th Infantry Division.

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Players From the Past: Joe Charboneau

by Niteowl049
created May 05, 2008, last edited April 06, 2009
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Players From the Past: Joe Charboneau

Joe Charboneau:
Born June 17,1955 in Belvidere, Illinois
Major League Debut: April 11, 1980 Final Game: June 1, 1982

Joe Charboneau was the 1980 AL Rookie of the Year. That was the only highlight of his career, as his career spiraled downward and he never played in the Majors again after 1982. In his rookie year, he played in 131 games, hitting 23 home runs and drove in 87 runs while hitting .289. On a negative noter, he was second in AL in 1980 in grounding into double plays (24).

In 1981, he only played in 48 games, hitting only 4 home runs and driving in 18 runs while hitting .210. In 1982, he only played in 22 games and batted 56 times. He hit 2 home runs and had 9 RBI's while hitting .214 in his last Major League season. Charboneau only had a total of 6 home runs and 27 RBI's in the two years after his AL Rookie of the Year season. Charboneau had gone from having a song named after him during his rookie season to being a washed up has been two years later. At the age of 26, his Major League career was over.

The Philadelphia Phillies signed Charboneau in 1976, but traded him in 1978 to the Cleveland Indians for the immortal Cardell Camper, who never lost a Major League game during his short career, pitching only 9 2/3 innings. Despite Charboneau's short career, it is safe to say that the Indians got the best of the trade.

Off the field, Charboneau was one of the better known flakes of his time. He would celebrate hitting home runs by opening beer bottles with his eye socket and drinking the beer with a straw through his nose. He used the beer to wash down the cigarettes he was eating. Charboneau was also known to have done his own dental work and fixed his broken nose with a pair of pliers.

On March 8th of his rookie season, a crazed fan stabbed Charboneau with a ball point pen. Ironically, he would be an extra in "The Natural" in 1984 about a baseball player who was stabbed by a fan. Charboneau thought of asking the Bic pen people to let him advertise for their pen saying it would even write under blood.

Today, Charboneau works for the recreation department in North Ridgeville, Ohio about 25 miles from Cleveland. He is active in fighting the use of chewing tobacco as is evidenced in these quotes by him in the Cleveland Plain Dealer article of March 28, 2008:

"Boy, I wish the stuff wasn't around," said Joe Charboneau, who played for the Indians from 1979 to '82 and now works for the North Ridgeville Recreation Department. "I see young kids using it and I hate that. The dip is basically the worst thing you can do. I feel real strongly about it."

Charboneau said that when he played, 70 percent of the players used.

"It was fun in the dugout spitting on each other's shoes," he said. "But the awareness wasn't there. It's just like looking at old Johnny Carson reruns. They had ashtrays out for everybody. Nobody thought anything of it."

But the ugly reality of the harm it can do caught up with some of Charboneau's teammates.

"I know guys who went to the doctor for sores in their mouths and had biopsies. They quit after that."

Charboneau will be 53 next month and it has been 28 years since his AL Rookie of the Year season but he will be remembered for years for his fast flameout after that season.


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RomiezzoLegend
613 days ago
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Wow. What an interesting guy, Niteowl. It's pretty cool that we can get to know what players we never really knew that much can be so fascinating to read about. Nicely done, Niteowl.
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Niteowl049AAA-er
613 days ago
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Romi,I am enjoy researching these guys with such interesting stories. There are enough characters like Charboneau for a book.
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Niteowl049AAA-er
613 days ago
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Just noticed I had typed smoking instead of eating since he washed down cigarettes he was eating not smoking. It might take more than beer to cool off a smoking cigarette.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
613 days ago
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One of my all time favorite Flashes in the Pan!!!

He was also a direct descendant from Lewis and Clark's guide Toussant Charbonneau and had a song written about him that was a "big" hit in Cleveland...

"Super Joe" was a bare knuckles boxer in boxcars before getting a contract to play baseball - which is how he broke his nose the first several times and nneded cartliage removed. Other than the pen stabbing, he was also stabbed with a knife and sewed the wound up himself with fishing line. Dude had a remarkable tolerance for pain. But back pain didn't have a tolerance for his ability to hit a baseball...
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Niteowl049AAA-er
613 days ago
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Just posted a comment on your Flashes in the Pan article. I wrote a note about Sam Horn. Like you wrote back pain and hitting a baseball do not make a good mix.
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Niteowl049AAA-er
613 days ago
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I am sure Toussant would be proud of Joe even if he lasted only 3 seasons in majors.
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Jerjets11JV Squad
613 days ago
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I remember Joe. He was red-hot very briefly, ahead of guys like Andre Thornton. Cleveland was a funny place for baseball then with huge Municipal Stadium and a fifth-place team that drew poorly. Joe injured his back by doing so many situps. He was never the same after that. Baseball is a game of adjustments. After pitchers got a book on him, he never adjusted back and the injuries did him in. Popular guy, though.
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Niteowl049AAA-er
613 days ago
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For one year at least he excited the Cleveland fans. Municipal Stadium had a capacity of over 70,000. I can imagine what it would look like when they had a small crowd with 50,000 empty seats. My dad took a chemisty course at a college in Cleveland back in the 60's and remarked about how huge the stadium was.
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Anonymous Fanatic #1
404 days ago
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Believe it or not, Joe Charboneau was as popular, (if only for a year), as LeBron James is today in the Cleveland area. Fans looked upon him as our "savior", regarding our dreadful team. I see Joe alottoday and he is truly a good guy. He shrugs off the fact that he made a permanent impression in Cleveland baseball lore. He runs many instructional camps and still does pr work for the Indians.
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Cougar2000All-American
612 days ago
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He had talent. Too bad he didn't reach his full potential.
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Niteowl049AAA-er
612 days ago
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Guess the injuries had as much to do with his demise as anything. He had to be good to post those numbers even if for only one year.
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Anonymous Fanatic #2
575 days ago
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Joe did/does have a high pain threshold. I know for a fact because he was my teamate in 1974 for a junior college in northern california called West Valley college in Saratoga CA. After having a few too many beers he pleaded with me to stop at his "girlfriends" house to "talk" with her before we went to a party nearby. Well, no one was home, so he automatically presumed his girl was out with some other guy. He flipped out and began yelling at the top of his lungs. Mind you, nobody was home and we were trespassing so I'm trying to get him to come back to the car when we spins around and punches the refrigerator square in the middle creasing it like it was aluminum foil. After assessing the situation for a minute he starts complaining that his hand hurts (duh). I take a look at it and it's already swollen and mishapen, so I convince him to go to a nearby hospital I worked at to have x-rays done. We get to the hospital, an orderly is wheeling him in on a wheel chair, when he decides he's not going to waste his time with doctors, gets out of the chair and convinces me to drive him to the party, (which, I did). Fortunately, his hand turned out not to be broken, but it was kinda funny watching him trying to explain to the coach how he hurt himself. And that, my friends, is only one story...
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Anonymous Fanatic #3
485 days ago
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Anonymous, Hey my name is JJ and Joe is my uncle. I was wondering if you had any more good stories from him. I've been in the Air Force for 18 years now and I'm living in Tucson. Please let me know if you have any more good stories.
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