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Phillies Grab Feliz

by Trecole696
created January 31, 2008, last edited February 10, 2009
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The San Francisco Giants and Pedro Feliz have officially seperated after the 3rd basemen signed a 2 year, 8.5 million dollar deal with the Philadelphia Phillies. Obviously, if you've read my posts over the last 3 months, you know how satisfied I am that the Giants will finally have someone other than Pedro Feliz manning 3rd base for them in 2008. Through all his struggles with the bat (career .288 OBP), Feliz did some good things for the San Francisco Giants. He played very solid defense at a position that isn't easy, and I still think he has one of the best arms of any 3rd basemen in baseball. However, his bat is one that is better suited for a balanced lineup, one in which he could hit 7th or 8th where he isn't counted on being a high average or on-base percentage guy. With the 2008 Giants who are rebuilding and could use 3rd base as a spot to put a young, power hitter, he made absolutely no sense, and I'm glad Brian Sabean realized it. With the Phills, who have Jimmy Rollins, Chase Utley, Ryan Howard, and Pat Burrell to fill out their lineup, Feliz can sit nicely at the bottom of the order hack away. He should go onto have a nice year with the Phillies and will be more productive and better defensively than what they had there last season. Not a bad move for Philly, but I'm still surprised Feliz got a multi-year deal.

Now the question is, who replaces Feliz? I still think the Giants will go outside of the organization to fill the hole. As much as I like Kevin Frandsen and wouldn't mind getting him at-bats at 3rd base, his future is at 2nd and thats where he could be as early as the second half of 2008. The other option, Rich Aurilia, cannot be counted on being anything more than a part time player at this point in his career. He also has the least range of any Giant infielder on their roster. There have been some rumblings about Joe Crede possibly rejoining his buddy Aaron Rowand in SF, but if that is going to happen, the Giants are going to wait and see how Crede's back responds this spring before making any kind of deal. Crede is also going to be a free agent after the year, so the Giants should not need to part with too much in order to obtain him. The White Sox need a center fielder and leadoff hitter and the Giants have a few guys who could do that (Rajai Davis, Dave Roberts). If a Crede trade is made, the Giants shouldn't have to include pitching. If the White Sox are demanding an arm, I'd just as soon see them sign Dallas McPherson or Morgan Ensberg, who are both looking for a home 2 weeks prior to spring reporting dates.

The San Francisco Giants Blog-http://giantsbaseballblog.blogspot.com/

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JuTMSY4Legend
648 days ago
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Wes Helms?
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Trecole696Red-Shirting
648 days ago
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What about Helms? As many holes as there are in Feliz's game, I'd still rather have him than Helms. Plus I don't think they gave Feliz a 2 year deal to sit him behind Helms.
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JuTMSY4Legend
648 days ago
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to feliz is the starter at 3rd...I listened to Charlie Manuel talk about it...his suggestion (and for all his faults, Cholly knows hitting) was that Feliz was asked to do a lot in San Fran, and the phils won't ask him to do much beyond hitting 6 or lower...

As far as Helms, my point was that the Phils are probably going to trade him and San Fran is listed as a potential landing spot...

And Feliz got a 2 yr deal + a team option....8.5 for the first 2 and potential 15 total for 3 years...
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Ccampbell34All-American
648 days ago
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If Boston hadn't raised their offer in the last ten minutes of negotiation with Mike Lowell, the Phillies wouldn't have had to fall back to this
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Trecole696Red-Shirting
648 days ago
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I think if the Giants make a deal for any 3rd basemen, it will be for Joe Crede. Highly doubt they'd have any interest in Helms. Ensberg and Mcpherson are still fa's too who are better options than Helms.
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OneflydudeAll-American
647 days ago
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There was word earlier in the offseason that the Tigers might trade Brandon Inge to SF
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RomiezzoLegend
647 days ago
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Pedro Feliz actually did better than I thought last year. You can be sure that he'll hit 20 homers and 80 RBIs this season, especially since he's in Philadelphia. He batted .310 last season with RISP. With 2 outs and RISP, he was .324. I know, he isn't that great in the 8th and 9th innings, but hey... he can still produce some runs.
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Falcon02520Legend
647 days ago
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average hitter + Citizen's Bank Park = very good hitter
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DNLLegend
647 days ago
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He's awful. Don't let the #s fool you -- he's a mistake hitter with terrible strike zone judgment. When he makes contact, he can hit it a mile, but he doesn't make contact often enough to outweigh all the walks he forgoes. What's worse is that CBBP won't help him, because it will make his moonshot homers into ridiculously moonshotty homers, and may convert a few long drives into homers, but that's it.
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Falcon02520Legend
647 days ago
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His long fly balls will be helped... plus he is not a horrible defender... he will still struggle, but will probably be the best #7 hitter in the National League this year
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Falcon02520Legend
647 days ago
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What makes me curious is that offense is obviously not the problem in Philly... it's pitching... so why are they not doing more to fill that hole... I know there isn't much, but a a guy who can rack up some innings is still on the market and would be a really good sign
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RomiezzoLegend
647 days ago
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DNL: SHHHHH! Don't give them any ideas!
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RomiezzoLegend
647 days ago
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Seriously though, yes, Livan Hernandez would probably be good for the Phillies, especially to get some innings out of the way. I think the Phils have been focused more on the bullpen though.
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JuTMSY4Legend
647 days ago
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the move was mostly for defense...feliz means manuel doesn't have to sub in nunez every 7th inning...
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