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Penguins Update - New Guys Sent Back Down, Pens Go International

by FrankD
created January 25, 2008, last edited February 10, 2009
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Well that was short lived.

The Pens reassigned Chris Minard, Tim Brent and Ryan Stone to Wilkes-Barre/Scranton today. I guess it doesn't exactly come as a surprise. I mean, it was bound to happen eventually but I suppose this means that Hall is healthy and ready to take to the ice again.

Of course, this may also just be a minor demotion during the All-Star break. Therrien has been known to just send guys off for conditioning during breaks.

In case you haven't heard, then let me be the first to tell you. The Pens are going international next year.

Similar to how the Ducks and Kings faced off in London for the kickoff to this season, the Pens and Sens will be doing just the same to start off the 2008-2009 season. Both teams will play two games in Stockholm, Sweden. I'd imagine a nice break will follow so as to alleviate jet lag. As I remember that was one of the biggest problems facing the Ducks and Kings once they came back to the states.

Considering the time differential, the puck will most likely drop around 10am EST. I'm already having anxiety attacks over this. They better win both, or the rest of my day after 1pm is gonna be messed up.

The Rangers and Lightning also have international plans, with two games scheduled in Prague.

This whole international 'thing' presents a few questions. Let's start with 5 of the 6 basic journalism questions.

Who?
Whose idea was it? I'd assume it was Gary Bettman's idea, but I'm sure there are all of these people praising the success of the England games that pushed the idea of sending over the biggest stars for other countries to envy. Crosby, Malkin, Heatley, Alfredson..

What?
What...what is the NHL going to get out of this? Do they expect the purchase of jerseys and t-shirts on their NHL store to go through the roof? Do they think more fans in Europe, after watching these games, will be more likely to stay up till the wee hours of the morning to watch US Hockey? It seems like the NHL is a cult following through all of Europe. Kinda like European Death Metal stateside...

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When?
Probably looking at the last week of September, first week October. The Ducks and Kings played on September 29 and 30. The Ducks' season in the states started on October 3rd.

Where?
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Why?
Exactly. Why does the NHL even bother going overseas? Practically every country in Europe has their own hockey league, so why does the NHL have to infiltrate? Doesn't do much to shoot down America's 'policing' stereotype, and it sure isn't going to draw more fans to stateside arenas. Of course, considering the potential value of the Euro to the American Dollar by 2008, this could be a rather cheap vacation for them.

Other
When the Ducks came back from England, they posted a 1-3-1 record in their first five games in the states. When asked what was faulting the reigning champs, nearly every player stated exhaustion and jet lag.

When the Kings returned from England, they posted a 1-4 record in their first five games back in the states. They too cited exhaustion and jet lag, but if you look at the standings now it was almost just seem like an excuse.

What do you guys think about the NHL on the international level? Should they bother promoting overseas, or just stay at home and try and work on that fanbase first?

Finally, as promised, here is video from the Laraque/Downie incident.


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Pittsburgh GunnyMajor Leaguer
657 days ago
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I dunno why the NHL seems determined to market the league in Europe. Especially in Sweden and Czecho, two countries that already have pro leagues that have been established for quite some time. The games in London seemed to make a bit more sense in that Ice Hockey isn't that big of a sport there so having the NHL play there may give a bump to their domestic league. The only upside I see in all of this is that the Penguins should receive a healthy chunk of change from their travels.
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FrankDDiv-I Stud
657 days ago
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True, but at what cost? I mean, it doesn't seem like teams are coming back from Europe and posting a winning record. Of course, you only have two teams to compare it to, but that jet lag thing is definitely a downside. As for Euro leagues, I've always perceived them as the Oakland Raiders of hockey. It's where former good players go to die/end their careers.
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Tyrone BriggsHall of Famer
657 days ago
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Wouldn't the NHL better serve itself by increasing its marketing presence in the United States?
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Steel TownDraft Pick
657 days ago
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Exactly.
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FrankDDiv-I Stud
657 days ago
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That's kinda my point too. Focus at home first, then travel to other neighborhoods.
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Steel TownDraft Pick
657 days ago
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My favorite part of the Downie thing is how he was soooo hurt, but then he was able to fight later. But instead of going after Laraque he went after Stone, one of our young guys. I have never said anything like this before, but, I don't feel bad for Downie. The guy is the ultimate punk and I guess what goes around comes around.
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FrankDDiv-I Stud
657 days ago
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I wish Downie and Laraque could've thrown down, but Downie couldn't go after BGL since he got the game misconduct. You can bet everything you have on a BGL/Downie match-up next month when these two teams meet up again in Pitt.
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MetsJetsDevilsDraft Pick
657 days ago
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1) The only guy I know is Minard who what you would call a AAAA guy. he is a good minor league hockey player but never sticks in the pros. 2) LaRoque hit Downie from behind. I have no sympathy for Downie becuase it is something he himself would do. It was worthy of a penalty. That being said, it looked an awful lot like GL tapped him and then Downie jumped into the boards.
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Steel TownDraft Pick
657 days ago
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I agree that is was a penalty. And I wouldn't be upset if he were suspended. All I am saying is what you said too, I don't feel bad for him.
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FrankDDiv-I Stud
657 days ago
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I also can't allow myself to feel bad for him. In a sick sense, BGL is the bringer of karma. You also have to realize though, that even a tap from Georges is like a full on push. It may not look like he pushed all that hard, but that's only because Big George doesn't have to.

I wouldn't say Downie embellished it either, but I will say that I think he and the coaches discussed his return to the third period something like this.

"Alright, I'm coming back to prove to everyone I'm strong and all hockey-like, but I'm not tying down my jersey so after I pick a fight with a random Penguin I can retire back to the dressing room to fight off the spins. Deal?"

"Sure."
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MetsJetsDevilsDraft Pick
657 days ago
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I didn't see anything that warranted a suspension.
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FrankDDiv-I Stud
655 days ago
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And none was given. In fact, a lot is being discussed about Downie potentially taking a dive into the boards to draw the penalty. I know the thought is outrageous, but this is Steve Downie we're talking about. All just reason must be thrown out the window.
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Oh No RomoDraft Pick
655 days ago
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http://www.y...vczpEA&e It's Penguins related
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FrankDDiv-I Stud
655 days ago
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hah thanks. yeah I saw that in between periods last week. They can't act for crap. The best is the look on Malkin (the guy who has the keys thrown to him). He basically stares at them like "WTF?"
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