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Penguins Update - A Look Into the Hossa Trade

by FrankD
created February 27, 2008, last edited June 03, 2008
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Before we get started, Dunman has graciously analyzed another Pens melee. Check out the Tales of the Tape, featuring Tyler Kennedy vs Mike Comrie ( http://pensburgh.com/story/2008/2/27/73140/9102 ) .

A lot of tension surrounded the trade deadline yesterday. In a typical sense, players clenched their collectives teeth and waited patiently, more so anxiously, to see what the outcome would be.

The Penguins were not expected to be big buyers or sellers in the 2008 trade deadline. What they had was working, and the only thing they needed and waited for was the health of the top players to improve. Players like Colby Armstrong and Erik Christensen had to have been a bit on edge, yet probably skeptical at best to their eminent fates.

The first move from the Penguins was that of a defenseman, Hall Gill from the Toronto Maple Leafs. In exchange for a second round pick and a fifth round pick, one could say each team got what they were looking for. For the past four years, the Penguins have been masters at picking top players from the top of the draft heap. Players like Jordan Staal, Brooks Orpik, Sidney Crosby, Marc-Andre Fleury and Colby Armstrong had all come into their own while amongst the Pens. Toronto, in need of a minor rebuilding phase, was looking for draft picks on the entire day. This exchange for Gill seemed pretty fitting on both ends.

However, nearly four-minutes before the official deadline, TSN reported the Pittsburgh Penguins had acquired Marian Hossa and Pascal Dupuis in a "blockbuster" trade. The details were still scant at the time, but the rumor was Colby Armstrong, Erik Christensen and last year's number on pick Angelo Esposito would all be heading to Atlanta in the exchange. Additionally, next season's first round pick was rumored to also be on the line.

Within minutes the word was official. The media jumped on the deal, citing Hossa as the ultimate addition for the already lethal Penguins offense. TSN headlines read, "Sidney, Meet Marian."

Yet to some, and that some is comprised of almost 100% of the Penguins Nation, this trade was a detrimental move. Players like Colby Armstrong may be a dime-a-dozen offensively, but that isn't the case for chemistry. Armstrong was the team joker, prankster, the guy who would just as easily deflate the tires of your car as he would stand up for you in an on-ice scuffle. He was roommates with Sidney Crosby and best friends outside of hockey. For some, this was merely a case of Roberts and Recchi to a younger degree. Yet, the media hyped it up to no end. By the time the puck dropped in Long Island against the Islanders, one would almost think Colby and Sidney ended a lifelong affair with the rate of coverage. All that was missing from the equation was a tabloid picture of the two holding hands in Malibu, with a caption along the likes of "Sidney packs on the pounds."

A trade like this hits home. But at the same time, a trade like this reaffirms that Ray Shero means business. Colby and Erik were great guys for the team, albeit streaky ones. Shero knew beforehand the implications of this trade, but also knew the payoff.

Marian Hossa, known simply as a "rental player", may not sit with the Pens after this season thanks to contractual obligations. The Pens only have so much room in the cap, and are most likely going to shoot to re-sign Malkin before working with other players up for negotiation (Hossa, Fleury, Orpik).

That is where the gamble comes in. If the cup fails to find its way back to Pittsburgh this season, this move may easily be perceived as one of the dumbest and most wasted move of the season. However, should the move pay-off, Shero may appear to be a borderline genius. That is the gamble he is willing to take, and as a Penguins fan hungry for the cup, that is the move I'm willing to accept.

Sides may be chosen on the whole matter, but in the end Pittsburgh wants to cup. To say otherwise wouldn't make one to be much a fan of the team, but merely a fan of the players.

Besides, no one likes a loser. In fact, they'll hate a loser even more should a trade gamble along these lines not come to a fairy tale ending.

However, no one is going to say Crosby isn't excited to get back to the ice with Hossa and the rest of the team, because Crosby and the rest of the Penguins are athletes; most importantly competitors. And in the world of competition you do what's right for the win.


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Pittsburgh GunnyMajor Leaguer
640 days ago
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As important to team chemistry Colby and Christensen may have been, I like what Mark Madden said yesterday on his radio show, "Chemistry doesn't score goals, talent does."
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FrankDDiv-I Stud
640 days ago
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And I totally agree with that. But on the flip-side, you take a team like the Rangers and also see how talent can't score goals. Again, this comes down to a gamble but I feel a gamble highly in favor of the Pens.
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Pittsburgh GunnyMajor Leaguer
640 days ago
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Good counter-point regarding the Rangers, but somehow I am thinking Hossa will fit in nicely alongside Sir Sid.
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CityhockeyfeverVarsity Captain
640 days ago
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Outstanding article, Frank. Funny you mentioned the Rangers. But it is all true. You can have all the talent in the world, but if the chemistry and production isn't there, you don't win. See their playoff drought from 1998 to 2006. This year is hardly faring any better despite everyone getting along and are there for each other as teammates. On this trade, time will tell, but as I expressed yesterday, the Penguins really took a major gamble here on Hossa (especially as a rental player here) and giving up too much for him. It might bite Pittsburgh in the ass, it might not. It depends on how far the Penguins go in the playoffs.
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FrankDDiv-I Stud
640 days ago
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It's a championship move. I say that not to sound cocky, but instead to clarify. You don't make moves like this if you can't win the cup. From hereon in it's pretty much an all or nothing approach. All translates to a cup win, nothing translates to losing Hossa on top of EC, Armstrong, the prospect of Esposito and whoever the Pens could've landed in the draft. Big gamble with a huge payoff should it come through. Like you said, only time will tell.
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JuTMSY4Legend
640 days ago
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its absolutely a championship move...
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Steel TownDraft Pick
639 days ago
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I don't see it as just a championship move. The Pens are stocked with #1 picks in thier lineup. In fact one could say, they can't afford another #1 for a while. You can't say they are trading away the future cause they still have Crosby, Staal, Malkin, and Fleury. This team is stacked with young talent and I think there are plenty of guys who can take Armstrong's role on the team. As far as christiensen goes, he never really fit in here. He said himself that he is excited to start over somewhere else. I see it as a good move, even if it doesn't pan out, I would prefer to have a GM who has the guts to make a move like this, and the brains to know the Pens could spare a couple young guys without selling the farm.
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FrankDDiv-I Stud
639 days ago
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I feel it's more of a champ move because of the risk involved with rental players. Unlike say, the Leafs, the Penguins didn't stock up on draft picks and prepare for next season. Instead, they got rid of some above average talent for some incredible talent that more often than not won't be with the team next year. I don't know what the deal is with Gill and Dupuis, but I'm making more of a reference to Hossa. Would you at least agree it's an all or nothing move? I'm not looking to argue or join my side or anything Steely, I'm just looking at the different perspectives on this trade.
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CityhockeyfeverVarsity Captain
639 days ago
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I don't doubt that this gamble is a big one, but also a bold move. It's only a championship move if the Penguins in fact win the Stanley Cup title in June. As I said, if Pittsburgh doesn't sign Hossa to a new long-term contract, I could consider the trade a failure given how much Ray Shero gave up. Not to bring up the Rangers again, but just to shed some light on a bold trade deadline move they made on their way to winning it all in 1994. Neil Smith swapped Mike Gartner for Glenn Anderson and acquired Brian Noonan and Stephane Matteau from Chicago that same day. We know what roles they played in bringing the Cup home that year. I don't know if Hossa and Dupuis are those same type of pieces, but we'll have to see.
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Steel TownDraft Pick
639 days ago
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I don't think I communicated what I was thinking properly Frank. I do see this a move to win the cup NOW. But I also think there were some other motives. The Pens need to make room for Malkin and Staal within the salary cap. They can't afford a lot of new young prospects right now. In the long run they would have had to move Army anyways. So why not now when they can grab Hossa and make a run at the cup. The Pens held on to their young core and got a sniper in return for some expendable players in an attempt to win a chapionship. So all in all Frank, I agree with you. But I see more to the trade than just a championship move. They were pre-emptively dumping salaries.
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FrankDDiv-I Stud
638 days ago
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That's also a very good point that I failed to associate. It would have to be done eventually, but i guess Shero opted to do it now and make an add-on for the playoffs. Excellent point.
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CityhockeyfeverVarsity Captain
639 days ago
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Oh boy, this has got to be a nightmare for Penguins fans... FIRST GAME Marian Hossa plays for them, he gets hurt (MCL sprain). Not good.
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Anonymous Fanatic #1
637 days ago
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The Penguins will never win a series against the Senators because they are affraid of them. The Senators rough them up and throw them around like rag dolls.
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FrankDDiv-I Stud
637 days ago
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Cool, thanks for the input.
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