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OFD breaks down the 2008 Olympic Men's Basketball Team

by Oneflydude
created June 23, 2008, last edited February 10, 2009
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The 2008 Men's Olympic Basketball team was announced on Monday and the team looks pretty damn good. Led by the '08 NBA MVP Kobe Bryant, this team looks to make a run at the gold medal, especially since they've struggled to do so in the most recent tournaments. Here are the players and coaches of the 2008 Olympic team, and then my analysis.

Players

*Projected starter

Kobe Bryant (SG- Los Angeles Lakers)*
Dwayne Wade (SG- Miami Heat)
Carmelo Anthony (SF, PF- Denver Nuggets)*
Chris Paul (PG- New Orleans Hornets)
Carlos Boozer (PF, C- Utah Jazz)
Deron Williams (PG- Utah Jazz)
Tayshaun Prince (SF- Detroit Pistons)
LeBron James (SF, PF- Cleveland Cavaliers)*
Dwight Howard (C- Orlando Magic)*
Chris Bosh (C, PF- Toronto Raptors)
Michael Redd (SG- Milwaukee Bucks)
Jason Kidd (PG- Dallas Mavericks)*

the positions aren't the primary positions of the players, but they are the projected positions for that player for the Olympics...

Coaches

Mike Krzyzewski (Head Coach; Head Coach of Duke University)
Jim Boeheim (Assistant Coach; Head Coach of Syracuse University)
Mike D'Antoni (Assistant Coach; Head Coach of New York Knicks)
Nate McMillan (Assistant Coach; Head Coach of Portland Trail Blazers)

This is your USA Men's basketball team for the 2008 Olympics. It may not be the Dream Team, but it has the potential to be something close to it. It is a team full of high scorers, playmakers, veterans, and maturing youngsters. Out of the 12 players that were selected to this year's Olympic team, six of them were apart of the 2006 USA Men's World Championship team and eight of them participated on the '07 FIBA Americas Championship team that qualified for these Olympics. With most of them already having to work together on previous teams, this will give them an advantage in team chemistry and team cooperation. The most intriguing aspect of this year's Olympic team is the three point guards that were selected to the team.

Of the three, Jason Kidd will be one of the players who will bring the veteran presence to the team; especially to the other two point guards who were selected--Deron Williams and Chris Paul. The 35 year old Kidd was apart of the 2000 USA Olympic team that went 8-0 and won the gold medal in Sydney. Also on his resume, he has played on eight USA Men's basketball teams with a record of 44-0. That brings a lot to the team and even though he may not have the speed or outside shot that a typical point guard should have, Kidd is completely unselfish and that may be a reason why he could be the starting PG for a team full of superstars. With players like Chris Paul and Deron Williams sitting under him, the offense from the starting PG position won't be a concern for Krzyzewski because he has already made the decision to have scorers like Bryant, Carmelo Anthony, and LeBron James starting. He will be looking for more breaking down of the defense and passing from the starting point guard, and that is something that Kidd is capable of doing. Williams and Paul are both similar to each other in their style of play because they both know how to break down the defense like Kidd, but they are quicker and they can score easier. But when they are needed for scoring out of that PG position, then that's when they'll be used.

The addition of Michael Redd is key for this team because the past US teams have lacked the outside game and that reliable scorer coming off of the bench. Redd is capable of doing both of those things. He was a member of last summer's FIBA Americas Championship team and all while coming off of the bench, he put up 14.4 points a game while shooting a little over 50% from the field, and 45% from beyond the arch. His long range jumper will be a key component for this year's Olympic team and and his bench scoring will definitely be needed. Redd isn't a superstar, but he has the qualities of being close to one. With him sitting behind Kobe and company, I'm pretty sure he'll be the next 2-guard for Coach K to go to. With him being a backup SG with decent speed, he will be with a second unit that also consists of decent speed.

Whether it is Williams or CP3 being the first resort coming off of the bench, they both can run up and down the floor along with Redd which will call for a dangerous guard combo coming out of the second unit. Not to say that the starters aren't as quick as the bench (because that's not even close to the case), but it is always good to have speed on the bench. That way, they don't come in and slow things down. The speed on this team will give them success because they must run in order to wear down the opposition. It's really the case for most team's success.

Even though the team looks good in almost all aspects on the floor, there are a few flaws that could lead to trouble for this team. I feel that with them taking three point guards, they lack depth in the frontcourt. There really aren't enough big men that can really stop the opposition from driving the ball to the basket on them. With Chris Bosh and Dwight Howard being the only two players who can truly play the 5-spot, that may be a problem. Of course Carlos Boozer will see time at the center position, but he is not a TRUE center. If they are playing a team that has players that can run through the defense, there will be trouble for this team. They may have taken a risk by bringing opting to play more "small-ball". Defense will also be a problem for this team. Chris Paul is a guy who can force turnovers here and then, but he sometimes makes risky decisions by attempting to swipe the ball and that may be his downfall. If he doesn't come up with the steal, he gives the opposition an advantage on the floor when he's briefly out of the picture. I feel that the only players on the team that can play consistent defense is Bryant, Tayshaun Prince and if you want to, you can throw LeBron's name in there too. But other than Prince, there isn't really a true reliable defensive player that can come off of the bench and shut somebody down.

I do fear that even though Coach K says that this team won't be taking a numerous amount of jumpshots, the shortened three point line will be a Christmas present for these guys. It's understandable that if you're open for the three, take it and make it. But some of the players on this team has a knack for taking unnecessary shots. That may not be the type of problem that could cause this team to fall off, but it is one thing that Coach K will have to limit. When you don't have a team that is full of spot up shooters, than they all shouldn't be spotting up and shooting. But when they were in Athens and were hit with that zone, they didn't have the shooters to break that down. But with most international teams playing zone on a team of stars, the addition of the shooters this year can kill that off.

Despite the flaws that this team may have, they have too many strengths this year to blow this thing. This year's team consists of smart and determined players with some of them looking to get revenge from their previous failures. There may be a few close games that could scare the US team, but I don't see them allowing teams to run them over. There is a lot of pressure on them and they will be tested in these Olympics, but they have too many weapons to lose this thing.

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The PipDiv-I Stud
503 days ago
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Oh my! Are they running the old Suns offense?

They are going to try to outrun the competition, it may work, but the lack of depth on the front lines cares me.

I trust Coach K, but I am a little nervous.
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CmdrporterWaterboy
503 days ago
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Maybe a second dream team here. Point guards are the key in this type of event. I think Coach K will get the job done if the players listen to what he has to teach them and that is a lot. Let Kidd run the offense and watch what happens. With the players he has there is no country in the world that can compete with the US if the players leave their egos at home and let Kidd run the show. Bryant can't be stopped, neither can James but James hasn't played much international competition. Bryant was raised in Italy and played that kind of game since he was a child. Bosh and Howard are going to be huge inside and Paul will spell Kidd and the others just keep on coming and coming and coming.....I really don't see any large weaknesses on this team. Team defense looks as good as it gets and the offense spells for itself. The international rules aren't going to hurt this team because of the younger players. They have been playing European players for many years now and I would hope has been learning from their game to adjust and divide the oppositionl. K coaches team defense and defense wins games and championships.
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Jamaled456Little Leaguer
503 days ago
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MAN! No 76ERS?
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Behbigben15All-Star
503 days ago
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Well duh!
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Anonymous Fanatic #1
502 days ago
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The Yakob of Philadelphia.
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JuTMSY4Legend
502 days ago
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what's weird is a regular NBA team might actually do better than a collection of massive stars (and egos)...plus they'd know how to work as a team... Paging Danny Ainge...
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Falcon02520Legend
502 days ago
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But what do most NBA teams have in common? Internatinal players... Maybe if we just sent the Celtics...
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JuTMSY4Legend
502 days ago
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an NBA team would be stupid not to include the best players it could get for a given situation (i.e. salary cap means you can't get the best at each position)... that being said...it could still be done with americans
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LASportsblogAAA-er
503 days ago
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My only concern is leaving Chandler at home for Prince
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OneflydudeAll-American
503 days ago
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Yeah that's what some cat on ESPN said. I kind of agree with that because even though Tayshaun can play solid D, but he can't guard superstar players...like Paul Pierce or LeBron James. But then again, I like the Prince choice because he can play lockdown D on someone, and he won't be seeing any LeBrons or Paul Pierces
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LASportsblogAAA-er
503 days ago
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I gotta assume it's because he can guard the 2,3 or 4 position and against small line-ups the 5 as well. Where Tyson is pretty much a dunker with a strong defense in the post - and is a terrible free throw shooter.
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OneflydudeAll-American
503 days ago
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I dont know about Prince guarding the 5. The opposition has to have one of the weakest centers in the world if Prince is capable of matching up with him. He's sooooooo damn skinny. But Chandler is somebody who can take up space in the paint and bring some sort of intimidation factor to the middle. Since the US team has such a depleted frontcourt, there wouldn't be a problem bringing somebody like him over instead of Prince
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LASportsblogAAA-er
503 days ago
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Guarding the 5 against "small line ups" 1FD, so you know if the other team is playing a traditional 4 or oversized 3 at the 5, Tayshawn could match up if the US wanted to go; Paul, Wade, Bryant, Bosh and Prince. Naturally you'd say Bosh would play and guard the 5 but it depends on what the other team has thrown out there.
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LASportsblogAAA-er
503 days ago
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It's really more about Prince's length and defensive tenacity.
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OneflydudeAll-American
503 days ago
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Oh my bad, I didnt catch that. But I agree--Prince is good at tipping passes that are in his vicinity. With his presence in the floor, you're always getting some sort of contributions offensively and/or defensively. He can even hit the jumper in the corner if somebody catches him open.
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Jerjets11JV Squad
503 days ago
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Team USA, if I can use that loose term, will have it's usual problems in the backcourt, where the issue has been all decade. Somebody must defer for the good of a team effort, and that just flys in the face of Superbad! The candidates are, according to the above: Kobe, the fictional MVP, DWade, who still thinks he won a title, JKidd, who is 42 now but at least knows how to distribute, and the much saner, quieter voices of Chris Paul and Deron Williams, who will both likely be told to shut up and fetch Mrs. Kobe a Fresca. Oh well, bronze does stand up to weather ...
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IbeargRed-Shirting
503 days ago
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did you watch them at all last summer?
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LASportsblogAAA-er
503 days ago
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Spoken like a true guy who hasn't been paying attention
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OneflydudeAll-American
503 days ago
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Ha, great insight guy
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SSreportersLegend
503 days ago
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I'd give you more minuses if I could.
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RomiezzoLegend
503 days ago
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Jerjets, if you think Kobe isn't the real MVP when you said later on that Chris Paul will go down quiet, who did you think was the MVP this year?

D-Wade "still" "thinks" he won a title? He scored 28.4 points in the 2006 playoffs, along with almost 6 assists and 6 rebounds. He's still considered one of the best in the game. The only problem is his knee, that he recently had surgery on.

Jason Kidd? He's 35... that's #1. #2, he's still doing really well like you said, but probably won't start with Chris Paul in the lineup. Deron Williams, in my opinion, does not get the recognition he should get. This man scored 18.8 points/games along with 10.5 assists/game (good for 3rd in the NBA). No wonder why the Jazz did so well.

With Paul and Williams being very young, and Kidd being an experienced vet, I can see the point guard position being the thing that the US needs to worry about the least.
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OneflydudeAll-American
503 days ago
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Romi you dont think that Kidd will start?
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SSreportersLegend
503 days ago
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I thought the US would win silver and lose in the final, but just to make you even more of an asshole, the US better win gold.


I don't think Kidd will start because, well, he's erratic. You saw him in Dallas and he's not the same. Paul is not nearly as erratic, he is one of the best players as far as assists, and Deron Williams is essentially a bigger version of Paul.
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OneflydudeAll-American
503 days ago
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True, but Kidd didn't have the US team in Dallas. Kidd knows how to work with all stars--as shown in previous all star games and the 2000 Olympics. Why start a youngster like Paul or Williams who have NO experience whatsoever? They were just brought in to get a taste of the US team experience because they'll most likely be the future of this team. They'll def see playing time, but I'm sure neither of them will get the starting job over Kidd
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RomiezzoLegend
503 days ago
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Jason Kidd knows a lot of the bigger names that are on the team. Deron Williams knows Carlos Boozer, and I think Chris Paul can work well with just about anybody, but I believe that Kidd will probably get subbed in the second quarter because Paul, like SSR said, is not as erratic. However, Kidd has the experience. I guess it's a pick of young talent over experienced talent. Key fact: Chris Paul turns over the ball 0.8 times/game less than Kidd.
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SSreportersLegend
503 days ago
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Don't forget the fatigue factor, Paul could play for days, Kidd is 35 and I don't think his body will let him do it.
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RomiezzoLegend
503 days ago
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Exactly. I was going to mention that. Plus, Paul is a lot quicker. And with D'Antoni coaching, the US team is going to want a lot of fast breaks. Paul would be perfect for their plan, wouldn't you think? Paul, Bryant, James, 'Melo, and Howard. Perfect for a fastbreak sorta lineup...
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False ProphetAll-Star
503 days ago
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jesus christ. I hate kobe, but I will never deny that he is not a great player seriously (I know I said Kobe sucks in the Finals Live Blog, but we all know I was joking). I don't think he was the MVP, but I certainly don't think he was unworthy of it.

D-Wade was that team. Shaq was key, no doubt, but when the pressure was on, D-Wade stuck up and won the title for the Heat.

To borrow a line, "Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
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OneflydudeAll-American
503 days ago
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Like I said, Paul and Williams will def see time, but Kidd is the best choice to start. Kidd won't be playing all 40 minutes. Experience is always key for winning and Kidd has had success on the US team and he has worked with the players from the team more than the young ones have. It's always safe to go with somebody like Kidd because putting even though it may not seem like it, it is putting more pressure on Paul to perform at the same level or high than Kidd on such a big stage. Paul and Williams are only on the team to get a feel for what this experience is like. They will be the guards of the future for USA basketball.
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Jerjets11JV Squad
502 days ago
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Thanks for the love, SS. Has backcourt personalities hurt the USA all decade? Yes it has, which was my point. Teams win when some players assume roles. That hasn't happened to a great degree yet. They will not win unless it does. This is where egos hurt the squad.

Yes, I did watch last summer. You don't want to overrate that with so many opponents out, or with differences on the team now vs. then. My MVP was Garnett from the time his plane touched down in Boston. Big men have decided every title in this decade. Don't believe me? Ask Shaq. Kidd has lost a gear. I think Chris Paul is terrific --- when he has the ball. Will Kobe allow that? We will see. The team plays great defense and that will carry them a long way. They are motivated. But they will need more for the gold.

I stand on my comments for that reason. Thanks.
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SSreportersLegend
502 days ago
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What the heck were you watching in that finals?
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SSreportersLegend
502 days ago
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You think Kobe is a ballhog?


Yes he is sometimes but I guess you don't think highly of Michael Jordan because through most of his career he did the same damn thing.


Oh, that's right, Kobe is shooting guard, so he should be averaging 15 assists a game while scoring 20. That's what shooting guard means!
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Jerjets11JV Squad
502 days ago
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P.S., DWade is a great player, but Miami's muggers, protected by three straight home games in the Finals won that series. Shaq, Mourning, Haslem, Walker, Posey. Some of those guys should have went to jail for what they did in that series.
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TrippydukefanTee-Baller
502 days ago
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just my 2cents

This team is designed to run and press. The main goal will be causing turnovers to easy baskets and not allowing the other team ever get in their offense or defense. This team should be able to play anyone in the world even or better half court and when they can run and cause turnovers will very quickly create a lead, making runs of 12-0 in a minute or so.

I'm not sure this going to work against the very best team though. If Paul and Kidd turn it over and these well practiced foreign teams can slow the game down and not turn it over.... I see it happening atleast a couple times and the games will be close and frustrating, if the players start bawwing likethey did in 2004 they will lose.
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Jerjets11JV Squad
501 days ago
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SS, Kobe is a ball hog. There's very little debate about that. He overhandles the ball for his team. That'w why they didn't win until they got more big guys.

No, I don't think highly of Michael Jordan. He was great before his Dad got shot. After that, his career was like a 'Cheech And Chong ' movie. Some of the most rigged titles ever.

Wade, Kobe and Jordan are all great players. But none of them rebounded or blocked shots to a great degree. Someone had to do that for them for any of them to win anything.
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SSreportersLegend
501 days ago
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And let Vujacic and Odom handle the ball? No way.


And sorry, but the only rebounding champion of that height was Charles Barkley at 6'5, if you're looking for strong rebounding and blocked shots then go for a forward or center.


To me you have a painful bias towards centers and your vendetta against Kobe is scary. You think he should pass a lot and let his pile of flith teammates do the work?
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Jerjets11JV Squad
501 days ago
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I would let Derek Fisher handle the ball. Isn't that what he's there for? C'mon ...

I guess my comments just go right over your head. I have no vendetta against Bryant. I don't like him and he couldn't care less. As I've said, he's a great player. Just not all he's been promoted to be.

Basketball is a team game with a number chores that need to be done for a team to win. But gushers like you focus only on the flash and dash of individual talents. I've watched the game for 35 years. I know better.
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SSreportersLegend
501 days ago
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Fisher was meant to be a role player, and way to mention one player as opposed to the Odom's and Gasol's and Radmanovic's of the world.


I have no idea why you think the star player shouldn't be handling the ball, you have to think LeBron is also a total ballhog then.
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Jerjets11JV Squad
501 days ago
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I've seen a great deal of LeBron here. The best thing they did last year was obtain Delonte West to get a real point man on the floor. They almost beat Boston and they were clearly not as good. LeBron is a much better passer than Kobe. Having the ball requires more than being a great scoring threat. Kobe is not a bad passer, he's just not above-average at it, as his stats bear out. The biggest difference about LeBron and Kobe passing is motivation. Team vs. Self.

The three Lakers you name are all very good big men who can handle the ball. But they are not point guards, obviously.

The Lakers do have options there. But Kobe will have to allow that to happen for them. He should be the Shooting Guard, as you say.
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SSreportersLegend
501 days ago
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Okay, you just put Lamar Odom and "very good" in the same sentence.


And Jerjets, Atlanta almost beat Boston as well.
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Anonymous Fanatic #2
501 days ago
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The star player shouldn't handle the ball. Not always, at least. Just because a guy is the team's best player, or even the best in the league, doesn't mean he's entitled to handle the ball. Jordan had the ball a lot, but he didn't think he was the only guy on that team -- I watched their Finals appearances, and they had a point guard who facilitated, not to mention Scottie Pippen, who did a lot of the ballhandling himself. I'll back up Jerjets on Kobe being a ballhog; once in a while he remembers he has teammates, but not often enough.

If Team USA plays with the same selfishness and lack of cohesiveness it has displayed in recent international competition, it'll get its butt kicked. And I'll laugh.

But if they play together like they did in the Americas qualifying tournament in Vegas a few months back, they'll be wearing gold medals. The presence of Kidd, Paul, and Williams on this team is a positive sign. These guys are great distributors, Kidd is a proven leader, Paul and Williams are the future of the game--the point is going to be the heart of this team, I think.
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Jerjets11JV Squad
501 days ago
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I thought Atlanta was terrific, and said so here somewhere. Nice, team-oriented game. Well coached.

Odom is very good. Just not always motivated.

A Fan #2 makes good points. Jordan wanted to play point. That's why B.J. Armstrong got dumped. Not a good team thing.
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