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Niteowl049
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Meet the Users: Niteowl049

by Too Manny Stiles, Niteowl049, and Manny Stiles
created April 02, 2008, last edited July 14, 2009
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Thanks to Beast for allowing me to special guest host another edition of this series. Today's Meet the Users guest, the Baseball Notebook uber-author, Niteowl049!

From day one he caught my attention. Not just with his Baseball notebook series but with his user name. As I discussed with him, "The Nite Owl" was my nickname in my college days at Temple University due to the fact that I don't sleep very much... and we've always been able to discuss baseball,; the game, the players and the lore with a similar passion and undying love.

On to the questions!!!

Meet the Users

1. Niteowl, you spent nearly 40 years working with a newspaper - How did that industry change over your time and how do you compare print to the ever-expanding world of the internet as it concerns sports coverage? Where is the internet headed in the future?


NiteOwl: I started working for the newspaper in 1966 a few months after returning from Vietnam. We were still using the linotype machines. We were still using linotype machines that the operators would use to type out the words on a metal slug. This process was called hot metal. Then in 1972 we switched to the cold type process which printed the stories out on paper and if there were any mistakes we would cover up the bad line with the correction by pasting over the bad line.


The newspaper as we know it now seems to be dying. Since I worked for Gannett corporation I was offered a chance to buy stock in the company and the stock that was $80 a few years ago is worth only $30 a share today.


The advantage of internet sports coverage is that it can be found instantly. Newspapers have deadlines that cause games on the West Coast to be left out of most papers in other parts of the country. Some sites update scores so you can know the final score just a short time after the game has been finished.


Internet has no space limitations like newspapers and can give the reader the latest statistics and unlike newspapers which have to cut the end of stories to make space for other stories on the page while the internet lets readers read the entire story. I look for the internet to replace newspapers in the next 20 or 30 years if not sooner since those of us like me who like to pick up a paper and read it in the morning may be gone and the younger demographic will be happy to get all their sports coverage from the internet.



2. As a baseball fan since 1955 (you've been a fan as long as Don Zimmer has been employed in the Majors!), what one team would you like to go back in my time machine and have season tickets with?


NiteOwl: The 1957 Braves would be the team I would like to have season tickets for if I could go back in time. It was an exciting time seeing future Hall of Famers Warren Spahn, Eddie Mathews and Hank Aaron in action. They had Johnny Logan, the enforcer, playing shortstop and was the team policeman, but Eddie Mathews could take care of himself too. I always liked Joe Adcock too because he lived about 55 miles from where we lived in Louisiana. 1957 was the year the Braves defeated the Yankees in the World Series, but lost when they played each other again in 1958.


3. They say the more things change, the more they stay the same - have sports really changed that much or is it our over awareness, accessibility and perceptions?


NiteOwl: Since the advent of free agency I think our perceptions of the players have changed since they used to have to work during the winter to support their families but now even the lowest paid player makes $390,000. It is hard for an average fan to perceive the players being able to make that kind of money. It surprises me that baseball fans go to so many games during a season because of the high cost of tickets, parking and concessions at the games. The basic of baseball have not changed on the field. Pitchers still try to get batters out and hitters try to hit the ball where a fielder can't catch it.


4. What would Dale Murphy have accomplished if he played today? Stats be damned - I think he should be a Hall of Famer. He was the best player in the game for 4-5 years and very good for another 4-5 years!


NiteOwl: If he played today I think Murphy would still be one of the best players in the game. Since he was able to adapt from being a catcher who had problems throwing baseball back to the pitcher to become a five time Gold Glove center fielder I think he could adapt to whatever difference he may encounter in baseball today. I think being traded from Braves to Phillies ended his career sooner than it should have. He hit 18 home runs and drove in 81 for the Phillies in 1991 but in his last two seasons with Phillies and Rockies he hit 2 home runs and drove in 104 at bats over those last two seasons and hit .161 and .143. To me there has never been a better role model for kids than Dale Murphy.

Murphy's Law? Can you be the best player of your era and still not make the Hall of Fame?
Murphy's Law? Can you be the best player of your era and still not make the Hall of Fame?

In the next two years he combined to hit only 2 home runs and drive in 14 runs in 104 at bats and fell two home runs short of hitting his 400th home run and had 2111 hits.


I have been fortunate to have been able to see Dale Murphy play in Houston at the Astrodome a few times and my wife even touched his arm which was a big deal for her.


5. We know you love baseball, but what are your thoughts about the other sports??


NiteOwl: I haven't seen an entire basketball game in person or watched one on television for several years. It is not that I have anything against the sport but it just doesn't interest me. Football is a different story. I have been to one LSU game in Baton Rouge and will never forget seeing a wide receiver catching a pass on the fly and running toward our end zone seats for a touchdown. I have suffered through many years of agony watching the Saints and can remember when John Gilliam ran the opening kickoff all the way back for a touchdown. It has been a tradition to watch the Saints game on television after coming home from church for over 35 years. Now that we are in Tennessee that tradition has ended and am trying to become a Tennessee Titans fan. It wasn't easy watching LSU and Tennessee play this last fall since we didn't know who to root for but when it came down to it we rooted for LSU.

Of other major sports football is the only one that is of interest to me. I have not seen a entire basketball game in person or watching on TV in several years. Football though has kept my interest mostly because of watching the New Orleans Saints for over 30 years almost every Sunday after church. The Saints could come up with more ways to lose than can be imagined. I have seen LSU play in Baton Rouge, Louisiana one time and have watched the local college play some games. They just can't take the place of baseball. I have watched the Alexandria Aces team play in Class C, Class AA in Texas League and now they play in an independent league. The Texas League team sent 12 players off of one year's roster to the major leagues including Cy Young Award winner Randy Jones.


5b. Thinking back to your High School days - Which sport has surprised you the most over the past 40 years (good or bad)?


NiteOwl: Since my high school days the biggest change is that football has gained more popularity than in the past. Our local college team went without football after a few years of losing and lately after 32 years they restarted the program and they are drawing big crowds to the games. Right before they ended football my dad who sold tickets at the games said they were barely making enough to pay the bill for the lights for the stadium.


Obligatory Bonus Question. Change one play in the history of sports, which play would you change?


NiteOwl: The play that I would like to see changed would be Bill Buckner letting the ball get through him in the 1986 World Series. Because of that one play Bill Buckner will be mainly remembered for that one play rather than for all the good things he accomplished while playing baseball. It also would have saved Red Sox fans of having to wait 18 extra years to get rid of the Babe Ruth curse once and for all and it caused many a Red Sox fan die with never seeing their team win a World Series. That is why I will be rooting for the Cubs to win this year since five generations have passed without them winning a World Series while the Marlins have won two World Series in seven years.


I am sure there is nobody alive today that even remembers the Cubs winning in 1908. I am sure some Cubs fans back then after the 1907 and 1908 World Series wins were thinking of a three peat but a hundred years later it never has happened.


Thanks, NiteOwl! Always a pleasure!


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RomiezzoLegend
602 days ago
Score 16+-
"Niteowl, for over two years, you have amazed us. You have reminded us that there is joy in a man writing articles. You've never forgotten your roots or where you came from. You've made us appreciate the times that have been truly super. We've all felt for you during those times that have been tough (when you left, the accident, etc). You stood your ground, even when others doubted you. Every single article that you write (Baseball Notebook), day in and day out, you have inspired us all. When people thought you could no longer you no longer do what you wanted to do (write articles)... you proved last month that you still have the magic that has always made you special. Be thankful for every roadblock, and every challenge along the way, because it's only made you stronger. Be thankful for every article you get to write. Be thankful that you've become a star here, because nobody can argue what you've done here at AGM. Be thankful that you've truly become a great one. Because we are all thankful for you. (Quote derived from the words said here.
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WizardmanRed-Shirting
601 days ago
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If this a record for highest thumbs up total on one comment?
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RomiezzoLegend
601 days ago
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Nope. First off, Manny got 17 plusses today as well. Secondly, it's not the record. I've seen a Kelsdad comment that has made it up to 20+ before.
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LASportsblogAAA-er
602 days ago
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Wow... what an incredible Meet the Users - I wish mine was this good. Great job by both of you!
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Yakob878MVP
601 days ago
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at least u have one
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RomiezzoLegend
601 days ago
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I'm surprised you don't have one, Yakob. It's not like the Beast is going to give you statements that you can say "Ya i agree" to; you actually get questions to answer. ;)
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Falcon02520Legend
602 days ago
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Niteowl, thank you for sharing your notebook with the community every day (sometimes it seems like twice each day). Your insight and knowledge seems endless, and reading about all this information you keep coming up with is amazing...

btw, I also enjoyed that the questions were changed up a little instead of what normally seems like the same type of format every time...
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RomiezzoLegend
602 days ago
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I love the wisdom that Niteowl brings to AGM. He has seen it all... going from the Roger Maris/Mickey Mantle days, Willie Mays, and everything after that point. I hope someday I will be able to know or remember as much as he can. Niteowl just never ceases to amaze me.
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Niteowl049AAA-er
602 days ago
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Thanks for the kind words. David Pinto who has be the largest baseball blog that I know of in baseballmusings.com suggested I start writing four years ago. It had never even entered my mind before then to write. The best thing is that writing has kept me closer to the game and keeps me up to date with what is going on in baseball all year round. I want to thank ArmchairGM for letting me post at this site and hope to keep posting for many more years. Romi deserves credit for the articles since he has made them more readable by his editing and has lately started adding photos. Thank you all for the kind words and I am looking for a great 2008 baseball season. I may even surprise Romi and start using more pronouns ths year.
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RomiezzoLegend
601 days ago
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This template is never going to change until you do, Niteowl.
NITEOWL This user is a fan of the guy who doesn't use pronouns
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Niteowl049AAA-er
602 days ago
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Seeing Mickey Mantle and Roger Maris the year after Maris set the single season mark of 61 was a big thrill but the biggest thrill was seeing Ted Williams near the end of his career.
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RomiezzoLegend
601 days ago
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I would've loved to see Ted Williams' last days myself; of course, since I'm a Red Sox fan. A lot of stuff happened during the past 52 years in baseball. I just wish that I was there during those days before the steroid era, at least. Born in 1991, I wasn't able to see one game before that era. JEEZ!
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Niteowl049AAA-er
602 days ago
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Manny did a great job asking questions and I want to thank him for having a chance to be interviewed.
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RomiezzoLegend
601 days ago
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Yes he did. Kudos to Manny... and thank you for making those great questions. Niteowl truly is one of a kind.
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Niteowl049AAA-er
601 days ago
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This summer you should see some players who will be talked about for years like David Ortiz and Manny Ramirez and if Yankees are in town you may get to see A-Rod.
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RomiezzoLegend
601 days ago
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And I'm sure 50 years from now, I'll be telling my grandchildren about those good ol' days when the Red Sox won in '04... 8 straight to become WS champs... yahtiyahtiyahta! And I'll stick to baseball... won't get into much football, cuz that'll just lead to... you know.
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Niteowl049AAA-er
601 days ago
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Keep that template handy...you will probably still need it since for some reason I forget to write the pronouns into the articles.
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RomiezzoLegend
601 days ago
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It's ok, Niteowl. As long as the R-Man comes to the rescue and fixes those grammar mistakes and adds those pronouns, your articles will be the SHIZNIT!
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Niteowl049AAA-er
601 days ago
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Failing English IV probably has something to do with my failure to use pronouns.
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LASportsblogAAA-er
601 days ago
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More proof that failure in school doesn't equate to failure in life!
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Sj-hypocycloidAll-American
601 days ago
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A good read Manny and Niteowl! Well deserved write up.
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KelsdadAll-Star
601 days ago
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Nice job, guys. Surprised Manny didn't try and sneak in the obligatory Rays question... "So, Niteowl, you've been a fan since 1955 and have seen alot of great players and teams over the past 50 something years, but what's really important is how Akinori Iwamura looks at second base?"
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LASportsblogAAA-er
601 days ago
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he did but the editing room floor monster got it
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Niteowl049AAA-er
601 days ago
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Right now Iwamura is 0 for 5 after one game but it is a long season. They need Kazmir and Longoria back soon.
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Tmil42AAA-er
601 days ago
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On a different article, Alex mentioned that we don't give NiteOwl his fair due for the fantastic work that he always does. And I realize that he's absolutely right. I don't think I've said this before (and even if I had a thousand times, it still wouldn't be enough), but NiteOwl, you're a great writer, I love reading your Baseball Notebooks, and I'm exceptionally glad to have you as a part of the AGM community.
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Patrickburke1980All-American
601 days ago
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Kudos to Niteowl - my favorite writer on this site.
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MegECass110AAA-er
601 days ago
Score 9+-
Always interesting, always well-written, a gentleman...There needs to be more NiteOwls in the world. It is an honor to be members of the same community.
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Niteowl049AAA-er
601 days ago
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All the kind words mean the world to me. I have gone out of my way to be kind to the other writers and commenters at this site because those kind words are what make me get up at 5 AM to start writing the articles. I try to treat everyone with respect and don't expect everyone to agree with me all the time but I can take criticism if it is given in a kind way and not in a derogatory way.
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Niteowl049AAA-er
601 days ago
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I failed English IV in 1962 my last year of high school and had to take summer school to pick up my diploma in September and join the Army the same month as the Cuban missile crisis in October.
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Sj-hypocycloidAll-American
601 days ago
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I think it's pretty safe to say that you recovered nicely from that little setback!
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RomiezzoLegend
601 days ago
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Practice makes perfect. Michael Jordan got cut from a JV Basketball tryout.
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Yakob878MVP
601 days ago
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who needs pronouns if you write like nite owl does, great job manny and nite owl
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DRE-LOAAA-er
601 days ago
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Props to Manny Stiles and NiteOwl for a Great Meet the Users! This site is mostly composed of young diehard sports fanatics and of course we have our opinions, pet peeves as a sports generation. It is refreshing to have a user like NiteOwl who's been through the Maris and Mantle and Ted Williams Era and can offer his perspective and experiences. It allows us as young sports fans to appreciate the history of sports, past and present. Very fulfilling!!
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Niteowl049AAA-er
601 days ago
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I was 13 when I saw my first major league game in 1957 and will be 64 this October but I can remember that game like it was yesterday. I remember the Pirates shagging fly balls before the game and cutting up. For some reason I remember Luis Arroyo a pitcher better than anyone else. Four years later he would win 15 games for the Yankees in relief in 1961. I will never forget Bill Mazeroski hitting a home run on the metal left field roof in Connie Mack Stadium. That stadium is so old that the Phillies have had two more stadiums since then. I remember the Phillies fans booing their own players.
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KelsdadAll-Star
601 days ago
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Luis Arroyo is from Penuelas, Puerto Rico, which coincidently is my wife's hometown.
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Niteowl049AAA-er
601 days ago
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They probably would boo Santa Claus, apple pie, Dinah Shore and Chevrolet but they pay good money to go to the games so that is their right.
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Anonymous Fanatic #1
601 days ago
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Phillies fans get a bad rap. Their team has given them a lot of boo-worthy seasons to deal with. And even the hardest Philly fan wouldn't boo apple pie. :-)
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Sj-hypocycloidAll-American
601 days ago
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How odd - that AF comment was me. Didn't even realize I'd been timed out. That hadn't happened in the three weeks or so since I signed up.
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Too Manny StilesVarsity Captain
601 days ago
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For every Philly fan that gets a bad rap, there's a section ready to chant "Hi-ro-shi-ma" at a Japanese player...


The old Vet Stadium used to have a net over the visitor's bullpen to catch stuff people would throw in there. But a net doesn't catch liquids.


Regardless of what you pay for a ticket - you DON'T have a right to act like a felonous dickhead.
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Niteowl049AAA-er
601 days ago
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Maybe I went a little far with the booing apple pie. Rhubarb pie may be a different story.
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Too Manny StilesVarsity Captain
601 days ago
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I'm from the Philly area and will boo rhubarb pie in a heartbeat. And if it's Strawberry-Rhubarb Pie, it better watch it's step or I might rip off a "YOU SUCK!!!"
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Cornfed78Draft Pick
601 days ago
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I'm Southern Illinois originally and as a kid I loved rhubarb pie. Have not had it in years though.
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KelsdadAll-Star
601 days ago
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I'm from CT and my mom used to go rhubarb in her garden, she made strawberry rhubarb pie. Want to know how bad rhubarb is? She would plant rhubarb around the garden, with the carrots and tomatoes inside, rabbits hate rhubarb, they would smell it and run away. The word even looks funny.
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Too Manny StilesVarsity Captain
601 days ago
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That's because much of the plant is poisonous!!! Which is why my Grandmom grew it - she is mean and hates animals. Only the stalk - COOKED is suitable for human consumption. I'm NOT a picky eater but unless it is DOUSED with strawberries and sugar in a pie, I'd rather eat a tobacco plant than rhubarb... My grandmom grew it and that bitch made it all the time but after trying it once, I never ate it again. She is 103 now, still alive and despite some expected senility is still a mean, tough bitch... but she almost smiles when I get her to talk about Connie Mack and the Philadelphia A's!!!
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Cougar2000All-American
601 days ago
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Once again, another great job! I have a Dale Murphy card from his second MVP season (I think) and the next time I see him, I am going to try and get him to autograph it.
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Too Manny StilesVarsity Captain
601 days ago
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Dale Murphy was my first favorite player (although Claudell Washington was a close second)... See even as a kid, I rooted for the biggest underdogs I could find. The more obscure and the less everyone knew about them, the more I liked them - I guess that's why i LOVE being a Rays fan today!!!


I was a pretty big Falcons fan then too - in the Steve Bartkowski Era... William Andrews' neck pad, Lynn Cain, the Alfred's - Jenkins and Jackson... Man, they sucked, but I rooted for them anyway!
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Niteowl049AAA-er
601 days ago
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Know what you mean Manny...I rooted for Saints since they played their first game and it was amazing the way they could come up with so many ways to lose a game. Tom Dempsey married a girl from my high school. Think he kicked his long field goal against the Lions and the Lions thought it was a joke for him to be kicking a field goal from so far away.
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Too Manny StilesVarsity Captain
601 days ago
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I jumped off the Braves bandwagon around 1986 when I became a full fledges Wally Joyner fan!!! (funny story - Joyner's favorite player was DALE MURPHY!!!) Between liking the two of them, it's amazing I'm not Mormon!!!
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Niteowl049AAA-er
601 days ago
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I have been accused of jumping on the Braves bandwagon when they started winning but I go back with them to when Ted Turner was managing them they were so bad if only for one game. I remember the immortal Braves of the past like Rod Gilbreath, Rowland Office, Pepe Frias, Rufino Linares, Barry Bonnell, Brian Asselstine, Craig Skok, Preston Hanna and Biff Pocoroba.
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Sj-hypocycloidAll-American
601 days ago
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Don't forget about Ralph Garr, Buzz Capra and Phil Niekro!
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Niteowl049AAA-er
601 days ago
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Wally Joyner hit 34 home runs his 2nd year and never hit more than 21 in a season all the rest of his career. He also had 100 RBI's the first two years and never did have 100 RBI's again.
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Niteowl049AAA-er
601 days ago
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Thanks SJ for reminding me of those other names...Whatever happened to Buzz Capra?
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Niteowl049AAA-er
601 days ago
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http://www.b...904220.shtml This link should take you to the site but you will have to scroll down to find the inning by inning part for the 11 run inning.
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CoacharambelSoccer Kid
600 days ago
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Michael Jordan NEVER got cut from JV basketball...He was a Sophmore trying out for Varisty and diddn't make it and ended up on the JV team where he averaged close to 20ppg...people always mess that story up
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