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Manny Stiles' All-Time "Good Guy" Baseball Team 25 Man Roster

by Manny Stiles
created August 01, 2009, last edited September 02, 2009
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The Manny Stiles’ All-Time “Good Guy” Baseball Team 25 Man Roster

It works like this…

There’s far too much negativity in the world, especially on the internet. I get pretty worn out by the gossip, the continuation of half-truths and lies and the tidal wave of slander that permeates the collective consciousness. It’s sludge, it’s fetid and it has nothing to do with the reasons I love sports.

So, it’s time for some “good” instead. Yes, there is some good in the world. Not all of these guys are the living shadow of Jesus, but they’ve all been repeatedly noted and deemed as genuine “Good Guys”, not just by me but by many of the people with whom they’ve crossed paths.


Starting lineup

Well, it works like this; No one is perfect. But here are the guys who have been routinely mentioned through various streams of contact and history books as the "Good Guys" of the game. They might not have always been angels (in the proverbial sense, not actual California/Anaheim/Los Angeles Angels) off the field but no one can argue their place on this team.

Fred is my team captain because I said so!
Fred is my team captain because I said so!

1B - Fred McGriff - The Crime Dog is hands down the coolest, nicest human being I've ever met - pro athlete or otherwise - and he hasn't changed since the first time I met him in 1988. The guy eminates a good vibe with his presence alone. He has class, style, a smile that glows how happy he is and his demeanor is gracious and very, very courteous. His parents must have been incredible people.

2B - Ryne Sandberg - Ryne Sandberg did work. He is as kind and courteous with fans as much as any Hall of Famer I've ever met. If there's ever been anything said bad about the guy it's a personal problem with the yahoo doing the talking.

Yount is also a member of Manny Stiles' Mustache Hall of Fame
Yount is also a member of Manny Stiles' Mustache Hall of Fame

SS - Robin Yount - The man with the awesome 'stache is even nice to people when he's waiting in line at the DMV. How do I know? That was where I first met Robin Yount. Granted, all I did was chat with him for a few moments and compliment his amazing facial hair (it looks even awesomer in person!) but if there's any place a regular guy would lose his shit and be a jerk - it's in line at the DMV. Not Yount (who was coaching with the D-Backs at the time). He carried himself like a guy who was having a backyard BBQ with his friends!

3B - Ron Santo - Legends are made on the field and magnified off the field. I can argue all day and all night why Ron Santo doesn't belong in the Hall of Fame as a player. But there's NO DOUBT he's a Hall of Fame "Good Guy". The tales of him signing autographs after games for hours on end and the stories of him hanging out with regular Joes is legendary. He's not pretentious or looking for people to satiate his ego; he's genuine. When people mention Ron Santo's name... they always call him "my friend".

C - Yogi Berra - I think a lot of people misunderstand Yogi (and his boyhood pal Joe Garigiola, too). Lawrence Berra is a kid in an old man's body. He played a game for a living and loved every minute of it. He hung out with some of the shadiest and craziest people of their time and somehow survived the madness. Part bumbling fool - part legendary ghost as a manager, he wasn't nearly as successful in that role as he was at the backstop. Don't be fooled by the "Yogi-isms", as they were more than not staged and prepared in a slightly surly manner to disengage conversations with writers he didn't like. Still, tales of his exploits at card shows, with kids and at charity events continue to add to his "Good Guy" legend.

LF - Luis Gonzalez - My wife used to personal train people at the same gym in Scottsdale that Luis Gonzalez worked out and will always sum him up as "a Good Guy". She's not the only person who would say that. Now understand, you could say all Luis did for my wife was open the door for her as she carried our two kids and bag full of crap in to work and Luis, being a father of triplets probably felt a wealth of empathy and was just courteous on principle. But the charitable exploits of Mr. Gonzalez are well documented. His smile is unmistakable and his positive energy made him one of the most likable guys in the game with teammates, foes and fans alike.

Murph was so nice, it was considered a hindrance by some.
Murph was so nice, it was considered a hindrance by some.

CF - Dale Murphy - Anyone who knows me knows how I feel about Dale Murphy. Dale Murphy is perhaps the goodest of the "Good Guys" ever to suit up. He was deeply religious - but he wasn't preachy or goody-goody, he was genuine and true to his convictions. the man led his life as an example. He was kind to everyone and honest almost to a fault. As a butt of MANY jokes when he came into the league as a country bumpkin catcher who couldn't throw the ball back to his pitcher, he moved to the outfield and his cannon arm suddenly found it's purpose. He'll never be confused with Albert Einstein and his appetite is the stuff of legends ("Dale would order everything on the menu including 'thank you for dining with us'") but anyone who was a baseball fan in the early 80's has to be scratching their head wondering how he didn't end up as a Hall of Famer. He's a Hall of Fame "Good Guy".

RF - Hank Aaron - Henry Aaron put up with more shit than all of these "Good Guys" combined and never changed who he was - a "Good Guy". Let's put it this way - MLB's "Man of the Year" award is named after him. A great, consistent player on the field and a greater, more consistent man off the field.


Bench

Sean Casey - "The Mayor" has been called "The Nicest Ballplayer there ever was or will be" but he misses out a starting role on this squad simply because I am under Fred McGriff's enchanting spell.

Roberto Clemente - Clemente's legend will last 1,000 years. If you didn’t know #21 was a good guy, you need to get out from under that rock.

Lou Gehrig – The Luckiest man on the face of the Earth’s legend will last even longer than Clemente’s. Such a good guy that when he was struck down with a fatal disease, they named it after him!
Lou and Babe - The angel and the devil on Miller Huggins' shoulders.
Lou and Babe - The angel and the devil on Miller Huggins' shoulders.

Don Mattingly - I always wondered if Mattingly was a little autistic (maybe it was his hair?). He looks like he couldn't care what the surroundings are, he is 100% Donnie Baseball. He is also 100% good guy - the only career-long Yankee player to ever to make me root for him. He’s had his personal off-the-field problems with his family but it’s never changed how he treated other players or the fans. Plus he was on The Simpsons, so he’s getting extra credit for that!

Kirby Puckett - He had his personal problems with his kids and his somewhat strange "love life" but no one can take away what he meant to baseball, the state of Minnesota and to the thousands of people he touched during his sadly shortened life. Kirby exuded life like few humans ever have and he played the game as every kid dreams to do.

Leon Durham - "Bull" was so nice to fellow ballplayers that when rookie Mark Grace was called up to slide into Durham's role, he took Grace under his wing and worked with him constantly so Grace could be the best professional ballplayer he could be. he could have snubbed the rookie and did everything he could to ensure his own playing time, but he did the opposite. Any man who gives his all to assist his replacement is a "good guy".

Craig Biggio - Is there any kid in Houston who doesn't love Biggio? I've heard "stories" about his jerkish exploits off the field that are easy to disregard when you consider the body of work. The guy never turned down an opportunity to be nice to the fans, especially kids.

Jim Thome - Jim Thome is a good guy. Unmistakably a good guy. He is good to the kids, good to the fans and is a great teammate. His grin is seemingly permanent except when he’s growling at the bat…

Al Kaline – Kaline is notoriously nice; so nice baseball pretty much invented the Designated Hitter just to keep him in the game. He sometimes competes with Barry Sanders as Detroit’s favorite athlete. Think about that.

Tony Gwynn - If you don't like the pudgy kid from San Diego, there's something wrong with you. Seriously wrong.


Starting Pitchers

It's not often you hear about a pitcher being a good guy. It seems that pitchers need to have a certain crankiness in their demeanor in order to be successful, but here is the "Good Guy" staff:

Bob Feller, true American patriot, Hall of Fame baseball player rarely goes without a smile.
Bob Feller, true American patriot, Hall of Fame baseball player rarely goes without a smile.

Bob Feller – Robert Feller wasn’t just a wunderkind fireballer who started dominating big league hitters in his teens. He was not just a fine American, one of the first ballplayers joining the War causes and thereby lo0sing out on some of his prime years. He is a “Good Guy”. Feller has been notoriously hard-lined on cheaters and outspoken with all things controversial but his instincts and opinions are pure. And he treats people fairly and understands not everyone sees the world like he does. He is great with kids and fans who weren’t alive when he played and he is routinely regarded highly amongst his peers. Named to the Greatest living Baseball players team in 1969 (40 years ago!) he may be the best living baseball player today, for his skills and his “good guy”-ness.

Fergie Jenkins – Anyone who has ever talked to Fergie probably gets the impression that they’re talking with a long-time friend. Fergie is another one of the “good guys” who may not have always been an angel off the field but he doesn’t hold grudges and is kind and personable to everyone.

Jim Abbott – By now, you’re thinking most of these guys are on this list because I met them and they were nice to me. Somewhat true. It’s also why Stan Musial ‘’isn’t’’ on this list. I met Stan the Man and Jim Abbott at a baseball card show when I was 15. Stan was miserable and insufferable the entire day but he still drew the majority of the crowd while Jim Abbott was at the same show stuffed in a corner room with nary a scant crowd… a few meanderers talking about “The man”. I decided that Abbott (who was still just a one-handed University of Michigan pitcher/Golden Spikes award winner was a far more interesting fella. Abbott and myself and my buddies who were with me at the show spent well over an hour shooting the proverbial shit. About baseball, playing wiffleball, going to college, about his birth defect and his jokes about how people treated him differently. He was jovial and simply “kickin’ it” with us like he was one of our neighborhood gang of card-collecting pals. Later, I found out he was pretty much that way with everyone. Truly, Jim Abbott is a “good guy”.

Greg Maddux – Sure he looks like an accountant and pitched like a physics professor attempting to defy Newton’s laws of motion but Greg Maddux (as well as brother Mike) is a notorious “good guy”. The stories of his high school days and his journey through the draft and minors indicate his goodness might be drenched in naïveté, but Maddux didn’t change once he became the most dominant right hander of the second half of the 20th century.

Tommy John – Tommy doesn’t sweat the fact that he’s not in the Hall of Fame – even though his playing career is arguable at best, his “fame” plus his career should definitely put him in as a “special contributor” at the least.


Relievers

Dan Quisenberry – Quiz was quirky. Quiz was a whackjob and Quiz was always entertaining. But he was always good to everyone. He was exceptionally good-humored with the media. His quotes are comedic gold and he rarely displayed anything in his nature but goodness. Even until his premature death from brain cancer, Quiz was a charming oddball and kind to fans and media alike.
You got more answers you weren't prepared for when asking questions to Quiz.
You got more answers you weren't prepared for when asking questions to Quiz.

Rod Beck – He had the intimidation, the mustache and the competitiveness on the field. Off the field he was a riot. Teammates loved him, fans loved him and he loved them back. Sure, he had problems in his personal life and was very much a failure when it came to finances and personal responsibility with substances but Beck was authentic in who he was. He was a guy’s guy and never treated people disrespectfully. He was a party on two legs and even as his career was waning and he was toiling in the minors, he was still a champion of the people.

Staff

Manager - Gene Mauch - Gene will probably always be remembered as the best manager to never get to a World Series instead of for what he did do. Mauch was quite talented at bench jockeying and taunting his opponents but he always respected his players as men and his opponents off the field. History has not been kind to Mauch and he'll be remembered as a "small ball" guy but that had more to do with his rosters and home parks than his firm will to play station to station baseball. It's hard to pick a manager as a "good guy" but Mauch fills the role as well as anyone else I could force into this slot.

Base Coach - John Vukovich – Yes, I met him a couple times. He was high spirited and hilariously funny every time I saw him. Everyone who ever speaks of him holds him in high reverence. Sadly, he is on this list and also passed away prematurely from cancer. Why are the good ones always taken away from us too early? I blame Billy Joel.

Owner – It goes against my nature to consider an owner as one of the “good guys”. Ha ha!

Summary

Sure, there are guys that belong on here that I’m sure I’ll start thinking of minutes after posting. I could mention a few dozen other guys I’ve met personally or know people who have crossed paths with that deserve mentioning. That’s what comments are for!!!

So, who is on ‘’your’’ “Good Guys” team???

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JuTMSY4Legend
116 days ago
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Nine former Cubs? I guess nice guys do finish last... or at least, not first
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
115 days ago
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Yeah... Holy crap! I didn't even look at this aspect earlier.

Sandberg(0), Yount(1), Jenkins(0), Santo(0), Murphy(0), Mattingly(0), Biggio(1), Thome(2), Gwynn(2), Tommy John (3) and Mauch(0) - all HoFers or 'HoF arguable' at least - had a combined (9) World Series appearances and zero wins.

Hell, HoFers Feller, Kaline, Maddux and Aaron only won one World Series each!!!

Then Again... Yogi makes up for 'em all!
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Davis21wylieMVP
115 days ago
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Didn't Kirby Puckett beat the shit out of -- and sexually assault -- a woman in the bathroom of a bar one time? In addition to other incidents, like public urination? Hard to see how that makes you a good guy, "importance to Minnesota" or not. And didn't Luis Gonzalez do roids and hit 50 fraudulent HR one season? Plus, where's Buck O'Neil and Jackie Robinson?
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
115 days ago
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Buck O'Neil definitely deserves a spot on here. I was bound to miss some... Nice catch.+++ to you.

I mentioned that none of these guys were angels and pseudo-mentioned Kirby's personal "love life" issues. He was still a good guy and I won't let an incident that never led to a conviction taint my impression of a life's work...

You can't prove Gonzo took anything illicit. How do I know? I can't prove it either. Even if he did take roids, he is a very nice and good guy. Seen too much of his charitable deeds to let steroids sway my opinion.

Geez, most all of these guys probably pissed off someone somewhere at sometime.

I'm a little mad at myself for missing good ole' Buck!!!
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BryantWrestlingAll-American
115 days ago
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I met Feller 7-8 years ago ... even at his age, he was kind and jovial. Nice to have him on the list. As a life-long Angels fan, Jim Abbott was also a personal favorite.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
115 days ago
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Had no idea you was an Angels fan. I was too; back in the days from Rod Carew, Bobby Grich and Doug DeCinces through the Wally Joyner years. When he left the Halos, I gave up on being a fan of one team and started just liking the players instead. Of all the autographs I ever collected back in my card collecting and show attending days - before I realized the only place worth having an athlete's autograph is on a personal check and that getting laid beat the shit out of trading card shows - Jim Abbott's is the ONLY one I kept. Still have it a hard case. He personalized it to me on the '88 Topps Traded "USA Olympic" card.
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Anonymous Fanatic #1
115 days ago
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????
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
115 days ago
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$$$$
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HeywoodJablomeWaterboy
115 days ago
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LLLLAAAAMMMEEE

Gee, All time good guys based on personal experience

Way to rip it off!
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
115 days ago
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Way to pop off with a total of ZERO articles in your archive, there "Heywood".


gee, what have you been a complete hypocrite about, you sackless, gutless child?


[edit] Here's some of your very own hypocritical quotes to me, gutless punk


Right. Well, the whole point is to get you to stop ruining this website


Again. Remember who's responsible?


You're so intent on proving your point (whatever that is) and proving you're right (about something), you've lost focus.

Of course, you never learn from these things.


Well, you seem so intent on ruining so many others articles and bashing their work, I figured I'd pay you the favor as well.

You can ignore me all you want, but others read the pollution on your page.

Enjoy!


Whatever makes you feel better about yourself.

Remember that when the next "flamewar" starts.



The common denominator there?

You. And you choose to deny it. Ignore it. Try to not learn from it.

But that is not anything new, is it?


Funny, HJ... funny how you blame me for EVERYTHING YOU DO.


[edit] Now EXPLAIN to everyonme WHY you are here still...

Weak assed troll. A regular user pretending to be something he's not. Better yet, an ADMIN pretending to be something no one on this site wants...

You are gutless.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
115 days ago
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Everything between the larger fonted, bolded words are from YOUR messages to me. And here you are being an asshole again.


Facking lame, gutless troll. Why don't you go log in as OneMannyStilesTooMuch now and keep digging.... LOSER.
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HeywoodJablomeWaterboy
115 days ago
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glad you found someone to indulge you today.

Enjoy spouting off who I am, or at least pissing off someone else in the process

Ever wonder why no one rides to help you? Because they're also tired of your shit.

But hey, its easy to be the center of attention when you are the only one here.

Enjoy!
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
115 days ago
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Can you at least try to make sense when you post this jibberish?

Oh, that's right... I'm talking to the loser with sexual harassment for a user name.

  • P.S. - How many people voted for your last article, HJ? Oh, that's right, YOU'VE NEVER POSTED AN ARTICLE because you're too busy "pwn"ing me... Hell, have you ever mentioned ANYTHING sports-related in ANY of your spewage?
You better go look up what the term "pwn" is supposed to mean, dork.
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SSreportersLegend
115 days ago
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You're doing a phenomenal job of ignoring him.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
115 days ago
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And you're doing a phenomenal job of minding your own business...

Keep the conversation in tune with the subject at hand (hint - SPORTS) otherwise you're just trying to butt into the tango. No cutsies!

Once again - If you have a personal message for me SSR, try the message function.
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Anonymous Fanatic #2
115 days ago
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Ben Zobrist will eventually make your list. The Tampa Bay Rays all-star is as genuinely nice a guy as anyone you'll ever meet.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
115 days ago
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no kidding?
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Tyrone BriggsHall of Famer
115 days ago
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This is one of the best articles that I really enjoyed reading here at AGM. Thanks Manny and welcome back.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
115 days ago
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A tip of the internet hat I'm wearing to you too, sir!
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Sj-hypocycloidAll-American
114 days ago
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Can anyone document when "Donnie Baseball" came into being? I have been a baseball fan for a long time (certainly during the time mattingly played), and I am seriously saying that I NEVER heard him referred to by this nickname. Not even once.


I even looked it up in an online database, and the earliest reference I could even find was from 2001. Feel free to make snarky comments or whatnot, but I believe this nickname (which I find kind of annoying) is the product of more recent times.


And please don't just tell me that he's been called that all along and leave it at that. I've been told this before and I am still not convinced. I can't find any evidence, and if someone out there has some, I'd love to see it.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
114 days ago
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Did you check the backs of all of his baseball cards?

The funny thing about the interent is the stuff that happened just before it became prevelant is lost MORE than the stuff from decades prior.

According to an interview in 1996, Mattingly credited Kirby Puckett with originating the nickname. Though no date was given.

What's there to get snarky about? Maybe you don't remember him being the best hitter (and first baseman) in the world for a 3-4 year span but he was THAT awesome. The nickname was there when he was still healthy enough to play effectively ('85-'87??).

Before that I also remember being nicknamed "The Hit Man" which came from a series of distinct posters of sport's finest athletes at the time.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
114 days ago
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The {don_mattingly.jpg 'Hitman'] poster was from '86.

Donnie Baseball reference from his retirement ceremony in 1995 - a commemorative patch the Yankees wore on their unis.

I know there's other earlier references but don't have the time (or a fast enough computer here) to pull at all the strings on that sweater...
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
114 days ago
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Whoops! Sorry about that!
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Sj-hypocycloidAll-American
114 days ago
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Oh well - forgot to use 'reply' but my reply is below. thanks for taking the time to give me a thoughtful answer. And this is a cool poster. Not as cool as the Carlton/Schmidt poster where Schmidt holds a flaming bat and Carlton holds a flaming ball...but it's a cool poster nonetheless.
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Sj-hypocycloidAll-American
114 days ago
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Can't find a good picture of the poster. This is the best I could do: http://phill...tmvpcyp.html
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
114 days ago
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No way Carlton actually signed that poster you gave the link to... he rarely sign ANYTHING that isn't a legal document.
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Sj-hypocycloidAll-American
114 days ago
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I'll take your word for it. I just liked the poster.
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Sj-hypocycloidAll-American
114 days ago
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I was not questioning Mattingly's chops - even though I don't like the Yankees, I always thought he was one of the best players from the mid 80s. I was questioning the nickname. I will admit that something that sparks my question here is my disliking this nickname...but if he credits Puckett in 1996, then I will grudgingly accept that this nickname, however distasteful to me, was not something that Tim Kurkjian or some ESPN dink assigned to him long after his retirement.


The snarkiness thing was more in the hopes of preventing an answer like "he's always been called that" with no real thought given to the answer. As I said, I had never heard that nickname (and I have also asked Yankee fan friends about this, and they didn't remember it either), so I would not have been quick to accept such an answer.


At any rate, thanks for the documentation. I admit this was probably not something to get real worked up about (and frankly, I am not worked up at all)...I was just curious.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
114 days ago
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You questioned it which made me question it...

The thing with basebaall nicknames is EVERYONE has one and everyone else gives you ten more (just shorten a name to one syllable, use initials or add a -ey to the end of their name). It's tradition to call people nicknames in baseball... I wish I could comprise a list of all the nicknames that didn't stick around.

Am I the only person who remembers David Ortiz as "The Cookie Monster" more than as 'Big Papi"?


My guess is "Puck" called him that during batting practice of an All-Star game ('86?, '87?) and it was overheard by some writers/players and caught on...
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Sj-hypocycloidAll-American
114 days ago
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I hear ya. And I always preferred "Nails" to "Dude" for Len (Lenny) Dyskstra. Some of those nicknames are great. One of my favorite nicknames was 'Eyechart' for Doug Gwosdz.
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Al Jefferson PilotLittle Leaguer
112 days ago
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Who keeps deleting my comments? This is an outrageous abuse of power by an admin. Heywood asked me specifically for oral sex, its his gotdamn user name for shit's sake! I just wanted to comply and make this gay man's dreams cum true. You know you went from six to midnight after reading my comment, Heywood. Don't deny the truth.
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The oldest manVarsity
112 days ago
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The only one I disagree with is Feller. He wasn't a nice guy and still isn't today. Yogi, Roberto, Dale, Hank, Lou, Don are all great picks but the one I would have put on would be Sandy Koufax. The nicest pitcher around. He didn't want to hit anyone so he didn't pitch really inside like Drysdale and others. Feller owned the plate aka Don Drysdale and Gibson. Love the picks...
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