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Mike Ketchen
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Is it Bedard at three?

by Mike Ketchen
created February 12, 2008, last edited February 10, 2009
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From www.thebaseballfix.com

Is Eric Bedard really the third best fantasy pitcher this season? A week ago, maybe but a sudden trade to a weaker division that also has a superior infield defense and a better overall pitcher’s park has made him the number 3 for SP’s.

Last season Bedard managed a 3.17 ERA with GB/FB ratio of 1.5/1. That era is very impressive considering he had below average defense behind him everywhere except second. The other big factor for Bedard’s success last season was the further development of his curve. The pitch paralyzed both rightes and lefties equally and also made it impossible to sit on his 92-94 four seamer. He also mixes in a change and cutter he throws effectively in on rightes.

Health has been a concern for Bedard in the past, so some caution is recommended, but be mindful as an owner. Pitchers simply do not throw 240+ innings anymore, most come in right around 200 and Bedard did manage 180+ the last two seasons. More importantly he was shut down for an oblique, not an elbow or shoulder. So while he may not get you 215 innings he will flat out dominate for 180-190.

My Projection:

Conclusion:

Bedard will help in pretty much any fantasy format for the fact that not only he punches out a ton of guys, he also has a superior whip. This is what separates him from the rest of tier two (Kazmir, Verlander) and catapult’s him to tier 1, despite the injury questions. 2.92/16w/212K/1.07 in 190in


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Falcon02520Legend
684 days ago
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Santana, Peavy, Sabathia, Haren, Beckett, Webb, and Carmona are all ahead of him (and if Carpenter and Liriano are healthy, they are also ahead of him)
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Mike KetchenJV Squad
684 days ago
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what is that based on? I love Beckett but a 2-3 wins do not close the gap. Webb will a few more wins but 35-45 fewer punch outs and a similar ERA, he Beat CC in whip, K's and ERA last season he beat Haren in whip and K's as well as for the other ones u listed they are not in this discussion at present time. Peavy and Johan still one two but Bedard is better bet fr 08 then rest
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Patrickburke1980All-American
684 days ago
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My top four: Santana, Peavy, Bedard, Verlander. I expect Verlander to break out in a big way in this, his 3rd year as a SP. I predict close to 20 wins and 220-240 strikeouts, era in the low 3.0s and a whip in the 1.15 area.
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Patrickburke1980All-American
684 days ago
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I still rank Bedard ahead of Verlander because I think he'll have roughly the same amount of wins, more K's (slightly more) and a lower whip. Both should be legit number one fantasy aces this year. Not to mention Bedard was a full-fledged fantasy ace last year, whereas I am projecting Verlander to step up.
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Mike KetchenJV Squad
684 days ago
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i agree Verlander is prime to take next step forward. However I dont see him ever becoming a pitcher who is better then a K an inning.
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Patrickburke1980All-American
684 days ago
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I have to disagree by looking at Bedard and Verlander's strikeout per innings in the minors and majors. I also place huge ephasis on a strikeout pitcher averaging way over 1k/inning in the minors entering his 3rd year as a starter.
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Patrickburke1980All-American
684 days ago
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Bedard:

2000 (minors) - 131k in 111 innings 2001 (minors) - 130k in 96 innings 2002 (minors) - 66k in 68 innings 2003 - injured 2004 (majors)- 121k in 137 innings 2005 (majors) - 125k in 145 innings 2006 (majors) - 125k in 141 innings

2007 (majors) - 221k in 180 innings.
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Patrickburke1980All-American
684 days ago
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Sorry:

2000 (minors) - 131k in 111 innings
2001 (minors) - 130k in 96 innings
2002 (minors) - 66k in 68 innings
2003 - injured
2004 (majors)- 121k in 137 innings
2005 (majors) - 125k in 145 innings
2006 (majors) - 125k in 141 innings

2007 (majors) - 221k in 180 innings
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Patrickburke1980All-American
684 days ago
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Now here's Verlander:

2002 (minors) - 137 k in 113 innings
2003 (minors)- 139k in 116 innings
2004 (minors) - 151k in 105 innings
2005 (minors) - 104 in 86 innings
2006 (majors) - 124k in 186 innings
2007 (majors) - 183k in 2001 innings.

Minor league stats show that Verlander does have the same strikeout potential as Bedard did at a similar stage. Verlanders K's have gone up drastically each year, and whip and era have gone down. I think he's ready to take that step this year.
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Mike KetchenJV Squad
684 days ago
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good stuff patrick however Verlander was not in the minors untill 2005. You may have his college stats listed there.
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Patrickburke1980All-American
684 days ago
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Mike you are absoutely right. That makes me that much more excited about Verlander for this year. Correct major and minor stats for Verlander is as follows:

2005 (minors) - 104 in 86 innings
2006 (majors) - 124k in 186 innings

2007 (majors) - 183k in 201 innings.
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Patrickburke1980All-American
684 days ago
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the fact that he throws a 101mph fastball and complements it with a wicked curve certainly makes me think he'll contend for a strikeout an inning as soon as this year.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
684 days ago
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Scott Kazmir scoffs at you lowly Mets fans... Bedard is over over-rated. Wake me when he puts 200 IP up in a season...
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Mike KetchenJV Squad
684 days ago
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so u missed the point of everything huh? let me ask you something about your 200 innings? how much more valuable was Haren last year? Think about this in a roto lg Bedard still outpiched him by 50k's and beat him in whip and won one fewer game. So what was that about the whopping 18 fewer innings? so go ahead and ignore the facts an works with the masses on "200" innings being the standard.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
684 days ago
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Difference here is I'm talking about reality and you're focusing on fantasy.

We are looking at it from different angles.

If Bedard is going to be an "Ace" and carry a team into the playoffs, he will be pitching 30-60 more innings than he ever has before - Good Luck with that, Erik...

Oh, and like mutual funds, past results do not ensure future success...
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JuTMSY4Legend
684 days ago
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ah manny...you're falling in line... I guess the finance guys think alike (You got the street schooling)
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Mike KetchenJV Squad
684 days ago
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yea hence why this is a fantasy article friend.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
684 days ago
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Yeah, My bad... My fantasy games typically have to do with hot naked babes and my wife. Not dudes... =)
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KelsdadAll-Star
684 days ago
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Lets not forget Bedard went from #1 starter in Baltimore to #2 in Seattle.

If you don't think pitching every day against DiceK instead of Beckett or AJ Burnett over Roy Halladay won't make a difference over 33 starts guess again.

And let's not forget having 8 starts against Oakland and Texas vs. New York and Boston. Bedard will automatically be better by changing uniforms even if his stuff is the same.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
684 days ago
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"IF" - we know logic and baseball don't always mix.

KD, #1 pitchers rarely match up against each other after the first week of the season. He's also going from a lefty heavy AL East to a righty heavy AL West...

But let's look at the numbers instead - Bedard had Five starts against the BoSox and Yanks last year, the O's won all 5 games. Bedard was 3-0 in those games.

He started FIVE games against OAK, and Tex last year - the O's were 3-2 in those games. He was 1-2 in the decisions.

He didn't face LAA and was 0-1 against SEA...

Meanwhile, he beat the Rays FOUR times (4-0)... I hardly think this is a ringing endorsement for the AL East being tough and the West being easier on Bedard...

To sum it up - Bedard in 2007 = 7-0 vs the East, 1-3 vs the West. He's going to be better WHY???
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KelsdadAll-Star
684 days ago
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IF there were no injuries and every team stayed on rotation all season, number one's would face each other in every start.

I vaguely remember a thread a couple days ago where you kept referring to what happened to a certain player being "in the past", but now your doing the same here? For what, to argue?

I just made the point Bedard will (on paper) have it much easier in Seattle than he did in Baltimore. Not to say it will happen, although missing four starts against a Triple A team will hurt him somewhat.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
684 days ago
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??? Come on KD! How long have you watched baseball??? Even if there were no injuries, no rain outs and no other reason for any pitcher to ever miss a turn in the rotation, they WON'T match up. Not every team plays game #1, #6, #11, #16, etc on the same days. The unbalanced schedule won't allow it. Or they would all have off on the same days too.
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Mike KetchenJV Squad
684 days ago
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great point kels
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Mike KetchenJV Squad
684 days ago
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hold on in that sample size what was ERA, also are you seriously going to tell me that facing the Yanks/Sox 5 times a year is easier then the A's and Angels? I dont care if for some reason the percenatges got skewed that is one of the dumbest things I have ever heard in my life
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Mike KetchenJV Squad
684 days ago
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n btw get your facts straighthe was 3-2 against the west.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
684 days ago
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"He started FIVE games against OAK, and Tex last year - the O's were 3-2 in those games. He was 1-2 in the decisions. " Get your reading conprehension skills straight.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
684 days ago
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I'm not saying my math skills are infallable, but do you wanna cross reference?
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
684 days ago
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9 ER in 34.2 IP vs BOS and NYY

13 ER in 31.2 IP vs OAK, TEX and SEA

12 ER in 25.1 IP vs TBR

Now what do you got???
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KelsdadAll-Star
684 days ago
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Bedard in his career is 21-14 against the East in 49 starts with a 3.89 ERA. Take away his 18 starts, 10-3 record and 2.84 ERA against Tampa, his career record against Toronto, Boston and New York is 21 starts, an 11-11 record and a 4.54 ERA.

Against the West in 18 starts his record is 7-7 with a 4.07 ERA.

Apples and oranges, anyone?
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
684 days ago
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Apples and Oranges have a LOT in common- both fruits from a tree...

Remember a couple minutes ago when you said this?"having 8 starts against Oakland and Texas vs. New York and Boston. Bedard will automatically be better by changing uniforms even if his stuff is the same."

BTW - I counted him as 10-11 vs the AL East and 6-7 against the AL West (not including his 1-3 vs. Seattle) on his career
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KelsdadAll-Star
684 days ago
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I never said my math skills were infallible....
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
684 days ago
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hee, hee!
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Mike KetchenJV Squad
684 days ago
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akward u r trying to imply you are correct..yet ESPN and CBS sportsline disagree with you. As Bedard recieved two wins in two starts against the rangers. Would you like to attempt a rebuddle now?
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
684 days ago
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You are trying to imply what? I mean, if you want to go point for point we can...

It's spelled Rebuttle - "I'm not saying my math skills are infallable"

I was doing the math in my head - how DARE I. I got the team's record against the West when he was pitching correct and I got his Er vs IP correct too - which matters more than a "decision" nes pas?

My point was that he did perform BETTER against the East than against the West - like I said, the East is lefty heavy and the west is righty heavy - Simple logic says Lefties usually pitch better against lefties.

Even with slightly skewed numbers there's no debate, which was contrary to the assumed "great point". If you want to fine comb my comments, go ahead - sometimes I try to make my comments more timely than ABSOLUTELY correct - I don't however make numbers up. I make up my mind based on the info I find and what I think, not on what ESPN or CBS Sportsline's writers think... call me "different".

Are you implying that his 2-0 record against a horrible Texas team is what will make him the #3 guy in baseball this year?

Thanks for making me chortle!
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Mike KetchenJV Squad
684 days ago
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lol guy do u need a hug? you first off have no clue as far as Fantasy Baseball goes and I highly doubt you have much of a clue how real baseball works. Sure his record was better last yr. However you are disregarding playing in front of a better defense, pitching in a more pitcher friendly ball park and a weaker division. So yea digest all that ok. And next time you want to debate and throw out the numbers to make your point. You shouldnt be so quick to dismiss the same numbers when they contradict your orignal statement.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
684 days ago
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"highly doubt you have much of a clue how real baseball works"???

REALLY? Did you REALLY say that??? Seriously??? REEEEEAAAALLLYY???? WOW you really DO live in a fantasy world!!!

Do you use Tinactin as breath spray?

Pssst - REAL baseball trumps pretend baseball, homey.
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KelsdadAll-Star
684 days ago
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Oh, snap, this should be good........
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
684 days ago
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KD, you hear this guy?

What's he gonna say next? I'm short?


Seriously, a guy that would rather talk to Josh Beckett about his grip than his girl???

Keep up that fine work and you'll have NO girlfriend and just as many blisters as Beckett!!!
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JuTMSY4Legend
684 days ago
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wait, is beckett's girlfriend a prude then?
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Tmil42AAA-er
684 days ago
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My problem with fantasy is that they take pitching wins into account. Ugh.
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KelsdadAll-Star
684 days ago
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I know, we had the "know your audience" conversation before.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
684 days ago
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No, no, no... 'I have no idea how fantasy baseball works - therefore - what would I know about REAL baseball???' THAT is a classic line!!! Too bad I've been playing various forms of fantasy baseball longer than this guy has been alive - Oh yeah... I probably played REAL baseball longer than this guy has been alive, too.
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Mike KetchenJV Squad
684 days ago
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dude again I ask..do you need a hug. I mean the Beckett thing is a joke but yea reduce yourself to childish insults again. Honestly it make's you look real bright. And like I stated from the begining this is a Fantasy Baseball post. I implied you have no clue about real baseball because the point you made in all your arguments lead me to believe this. But hey I am sure you can find a lot of "your real" baseball friends who think it is easier to pitch in the AL west then the AL east.
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Tmil42AAA-er
684 days ago
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Dude, these guys are great contributors and have a vast wealth of baseball knowledge. They don't like when people insult their intelligence, and I can't blame them. They've probably forgotten more about baseball than I know. I'm just saying, you're probably not winning this one.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
684 days ago
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Huggybear, you are wasting both of our time now. And ummm "dude" ... my "real baseball friends" actually PLAY in the AL East!!!
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Tmil42AAA-er
684 days ago
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Doesn't one of them play in the AL Central now, Manny?
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
684 days ago
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Eh... We are just "acquaintences" now... =)
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Tmil42AAA-er
684 days ago
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I'm sorry to hear that. Can you tell me if he's really as troubled as he seems?
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
684 days ago
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I never hung out with him, (though I have spoken with people who have known him since he was a kid) but based on what I saw of him, he's not troubled at all. Dude wants to be a GREAT player. He had a bat in his hands every time he wasn't getting dressed.

The "incidents" he had at Tampa weren't as big a deal as everyone wants to make them seem... (nor were Dukes') and he didn't get traded because of "issues" he got traded because they wanted a starting pitcher. In Tampa there wasn't much to talk about so controversies got magnified by the media (side note - I don't think any of the Tampa beat writers like the Rays at all) The Rays needed a solid starter like Garza WAY more than a solid RF.

I really do still think he could be a Hall of Famer when it's all said and done. Guy has POLISHED physical skills. He will mature and learn to work counts.

I'm still a fan of his, no doubt.
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Tmil42AAA-er
684 days ago
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That's some good information to have, thanks Manny. Oh, and Mike Ketchen, if you're paying attention, that's one of the reason why this guy's pretty good.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
684 days ago
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Well, my Rays 2008 preview will be up by Thursday but since DY isn't a Ray anymore - you got it for free!!!
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Tmil42AAA-er
684 days ago
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Thanks Manny, I look forward to reading it.
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SSreportersLegend
684 days ago
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Mike KetchenJV Squad
684 days ago
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so he knows delmon..congrats...and I will state again everyone is entitled to their opinion as am I. However just because you "know" someone does not mean you are more or less educated on something. And when it comes to this debate he has been wrong IMOP on everyone of his points.
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Tmil42AAA-er
684 days ago
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You're right, everyone is entitled to their opinion. I just hate when people go from arguing the merits of their case to personally attacking their opponents...like when you asked Manny if he needed a hug.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
684 days ago
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OK, smartypants... YOU'RE the expert (go back and read your ESPN and CBS Sportsline to make sure) and I'm "wrong". I'll mark it down.

I fail to see what "point" I was "wrong" about if "everyone is entitled to their own opinion" - I said he was "over overrated" (My Opinion - which I believe, I am entitled to per your decree) And I said that he performed better against the Yanks/Sox than the AL West, then PROVED it using your precious "numbers" - even after accidentally misquotingBedard's decisions - but I guess a pitcher's decisions are "important" in the fantasy realm more than in the team sport called baseball - which I DID get the team's record in thos games absolutely correct...

At the end of the season when Bedard isn't one of the top 10 pitchers in the AL what do I win?
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JuTMSY4Legend
684 days ago
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Davis...where's the "arguing on the internet means you're retarded" thing again?
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Tmil42AAA-er
684 days ago
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I think it goes...arguing on the internet is like competing in the Special Olympics...even if you win, you're still retarded.
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JuTMSY4Legend
684 days ago
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yeah, but there's a pic around agm somewhere...
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
684 days ago
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I just realized the author is a Red Sox fan - proof I AM a retarded!!! I should go try to teach a potato to juggle flaming chainsaws instead of trying to converse logically with this guy.
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Tmil42AAA-er
684 days ago
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Yeah, now that I think about it, I remember seeing that somewhere.
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JuTMSY4Legend
684 days ago
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the pic or the potato?
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Tmil42AAA-er
684 days ago
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Ha...the pic...although I wish I could have seen the potato.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
684 days ago
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Well, I give up... I only have two chainsaws. But I made some really funky french fries, REALLY fast!!! (they taste a tad too much like lighter fluid though)
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Davis21wylieMVP
683 days ago
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Image:arguing_on_the_internet.jpg

It's now hosted on AGM, Justin, just to make things convenient (since people seem to need reminding so often):

[[Image:arguing_on_the_internet.jpg]]
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JuTMSY4Legend
683 days ago
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thanks...sometimes its needed...
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Mike KetchenJV Squad
684 days ago
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so now because my team wins...I am retard. Also seeing how you are so wise. What gauge are you using to access the top 10 starters? because I am sure in any formula/format you use Bedard would still(despite the lack of innings) come out statisicly in the top ten. So again please make some bad jokes and have your cronies laugh at it. Because you have brought no logic here my friend. And one more thing, why are you insulting fantasy baseball, when you are in fact commenting on a fantasy baseball article?
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JuTMSY4Legend
684 days ago
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yes, because the team you've rooted for is good, you are infact mentally disabled...
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Tyrone BriggsHall of Famer
684 days ago
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I guess that is Jut's way of telling me that I'm a friggin' genius for cheering for the Chicago Cubs.
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Tmil42AAA-er
684 days ago
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Wow...all 4 Royals fans must be geniuses.
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Tyrone BriggsHall of Famer
684 days ago
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Wake me up when the Royals host "Steve Balboni Appreciation Night".
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
684 days ago
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Get help with your reading comprehension -

1) I didn't make a comment about your article until you gave me your "200 innings aren't important schpiel,

2) I never called YOU a "retard". In fact, I called myself retarded for wasting my time on you, so...

3) If you want to make the leap that calling you a Red Sox fan is equivalent to being retarded I certainly won't fight with you over it.

4) My "cronies" are merely people making up their own minds based on the comments above...

5) Take offense at my comments about fantasy all you want. Whether this article is about fantasy or not, I am entitled to my "opinion", right??? Here's a news flash pal, I comment on MOST articles... including articles I don't give a damn about - know your audience.

6) You are in WAY over your head here. I've forgotten more baseball than you'll ever know. And I don't forget much...

7) Here's a measuring stick for you - let's see if he's even an All-Star. A top 3 "fantasy" pitcher should easily accomplish that feat... right?

Your move... come on, make me chortle some more!!! I don't know baseball, my jokes are bad, no logic, how wrong I am... keep 'em coming!
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Tmil42AAA-er
684 days ago
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"I comment on ALL articles" I fixed it for you, Manny.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
684 days ago
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Believe it or not, T... there really are times when I type a comment up and don't hit "Post"... and just let it go (this obviously is not one of those times) BUT - give me credit for this much - other than a few "go-to"s I rarely repeat myself (unless it was really funny and I know no one saw it the first time I said it...)
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Tmil42AAA-er
684 days ago
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Oh, there's no doubting that you're creative. I'm not saying that at all. You manage to post proficiently while simultaneously differentiating your ideological dictum for the masses. Anybody else follow that last sentence? I know I didn't. I have no idea what I just said.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
684 days ago
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I guess I'll take it as a compliment even though I think you just called me a cocksucker in Sanskrit...

I'm just a dude with a passion for experiencing events of athleticism, a massive case of ADHD and a computer...

I might have to record a song about the fantasy merits of Erik Bedard tonight...
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Tyrone BriggsHall of Famer
684 days ago
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[Tyrone Briggs has been trying to figure out a connection between Mike Ketchen and baseball player Erik Bedard, when he sees his dog's fur overlapping Bedard's hair in a photo] What the... That's it! Ketchen is Bedard! Bedard is Ketchen!
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Mike KetchenJV Squad
684 days ago
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lol cute but this argument has gotten so far off base now.
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Tyrone BriggsHall of Famer
684 days ago
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I admit that I ripped off the quote but vehemently deny that you and I have ever met (recall the next scene....)
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Mike KetchenJV Squad
684 days ago
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lol good stuff man
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Mike KetchenJV Squad
683 days ago
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Ok Manny I ask again...why are you so smart? Because you have a fan base on armchair? I mean you have not made one point that wowed me. Oh no! you are popular on some sports forum, my god the nerve of me questioning you. I love how you keep saying you have forget more then I learned and innings are still a great measuring stick. Well I agree you need to be on the mound to pitch. Yet Beckett did alright last year in a whopping 18 more! ouch jeez I guess that played a huge roll. Or was it that the O's were out of it so why even risk a long term injury to his oblique? And also by your logic with the innings being the end all for pitching evaluation. Who would you take to be your ace?
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Mike KetchenJV Squad
683 days ago
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and one more thing..last yr this is how bedard stacked up against the rest of the best after Johan and Peavy. Out of a group of Bedard, Beckett, Sabathia and Webb. Bedard lead the group in QS%/K's/K9/Whip/OPBA and Finished second in ERA. So yea he is real "overrated" but again you know so much more then me, so you must have already A) known all this and B) decided it is not important information in determing who is and isnt overrated.
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Falcon02520Legend
683 days ago
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well, in [AGM's league] Bedard was last season ranked 33 among players, which is sixth among pitchers... but, based on fantasy points (which is how many points the player put up last season, he had 124, which is 29th among pitchers... so really, he was the 29th most productive fantasy pitcher in the league (by AGM ranks) last season
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Falcon02520Legend
683 days ago
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and btw, Kelsdad and Manny know more about baseball than anyone else on this site (no offense to anyone else, but they just are)... So, chances are, you can not tell them something that they don't already know...
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OneflydudeAll-American
683 days ago
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DAAAAAAAAAMMMMMMNNNNNNNNNN. Once again, I miss all the good shit
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Falcon02520Legend
683 days ago
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yeah, well I missed this one too... it sucks doesn't it?
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Mike KetchenJV Squad
683 days ago
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why? someone tell me and or how they know more? I am sure they are both very compatient baseball fans? but what makes there words gospel? and Falcon I posted the stats for his real world baseball discussion. And yea in points he probably did get passed but in a points Yahoo lq I recomend you break your points down by per inning. Not simply total
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Mike KetchenJV Squad
683 days ago
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to put in perspective falcon. In my team in a yahoo points lq last yr I had Johan and Bedard. Johan scored a total of 664 and Bedard 617 yet you get a max of 1200 innings I believe so you want the most for these Innings. Bedard avg 3.4 Johan 3 flat. That is a pretty big swing P/In.
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