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Giants Go Offensive In Amateur Draft

by Trecole696
created June 06, 2008, last edited February 10, 2009
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The San Francisco Giants' 2008 draft could end up being one of the better ones in the club's last few decades. The Giants got two premium collegiate bats with their first two picks, then stole a few more potential first rounders with their 3rd and 4th choices. All the talk around draft day though surrounded NCAA Player of the Year and All-American catcher, Gerard "Buster" Posey out of Florida State. Posey was arguably the best all-around player in the draft and if it weren't for his high signing bonus demand ($12 million), some feel he would have been the number 1 overall pick by the Tampa Bay Rays. I have had a chance to watch Posey play a few games and watch some video on him and he looks as good, if not better than advertised. The day after getting picked 5th overall, he hit a majestic, 420+ foot shot against Wichita State in the NCAA Regionals. He kind of reminds of of the Derek Jeter of catchers as he looks like he can do everything well and is comfortable as a leader of a team. Scouts project him as a .300+ hitter in the bigs with exceptional defense, 15-20 home run power and a solid, clutch run-producer. He's second in college baseball in home runs and first in batting average, so I don't really understand the mediocre power numbers. In a perfect world, I would have loved to get a shot at Pedro Alvarez, but Posey and Justin Smoak were right there after Alvarez in my book. Another positive about Posey is how polished he is at and behind the plate already. He could be playing a major role with the team as early as 2009.

The Giants didn't stop with Posey as far as drafting hitters went on day 1. They also grabbed Bill Mueller-clone Connor Gillaspie with pick number 37 in the supplemental round. He's another advanced college bat that was projected to go as high is the middle first round, but apparently teams were a little concerned about his lack of power. Gillaspie won MVP of the Cape Cod league last summer so he seems like he's comfortable hitting with the wood bat as well. Scouts have him as a good bet to hit .300 in the bigs' with extra-base power. He's ranked as an average defender with a solid arm but is known as a hard-nosed, all-out player. He's another guy that could be making noise in San Francisco as early as the 2009 season. Gillaspie also has the flexibility to play second base and could end up there depending on what happens with Giants number 1 prospect Angel Villalona.

The Giants grabbed two more positional players and couple arms to round out the first day of drafting. They grabbed left-handed, power hitting right fielder, Roger Keischnik out of Texas Tech in round 3 and Bay Area native Brandon Crawford from UCLA. Keischnik is an interesting pick because of his power potential. He's got the raw power potential to hit 30+ homers a year in the major leagues if he can fine tune some hitches in his swing. He's also got some speed and a very strong arm in right field. Some scouts had him as a late first round possibility so for the Giants to nab him in the 3rd round is a very good pick. Crawford also was a guy that could have gone higher than he did. In fact, if Crawford would have entered last years draft, he probably would have went a little higher. A tough summer in the Cape Cod league destroyed some of his confidence and he hasn't been the same hitter since. His glove at this point is more pro-ready than his bat is, but the Giants are expecting him to rebound offensively. He's a big shortstop (6'2", 200 pounds) but is still fluid defensively. If he can fill out his offensive potential, he will end up being a steal in the 4th.

The only pitchers the Giants ended up grabbing on day 1 was right handed reliever Edwin Quirarte (Cal St. Northridge) and left-handed starter Erick Surkamp from North Carolina State. I don't know much about either of them but from the video. Quirarte looks like he's got a nice right-handed power arm and a compact motion. He throws between 92-95 with a good hard slider. He projects out to be a middle/late reliever. Surkamp is a big lefty (6'5") with a deceptive fastball and a plus curveball.

  • More Draft Coverage To Come*

The Giants Baseball Blog-http://giantsbaseballblog.blogspot.com/

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KelsdadAll-Star
523 days ago
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This years draft is the weakest overall in this decade, and likely goes back a bit farther. Unlike the 2005 draft, which may end up with a 100% return on major leaguers from the first round, this draft could conceivably fall below the first round ML average of 64%.

At the beginning of the college season, Posey was ranked as the 17th best college player, with Conor Gillespie ranked 20th. Overall, including high schoolers, the first round projections had Posey going 28th overall, with Gillespie being a supplemental pick.

And if you correspond paragraph two with paragraph one, the fifth overall pick in 2008 may not have been a first rounder in 2005. As our erstwhile friend says, somebody had to go number one.

Up until Tuesday evening, Posey was the Rays choice, however, he refused to budge from his contract demands, the Rays (wisely) went with Beckham. If the Giants buckle and give this kid the money, it may go down as the dumbest first round signing/pick since Matt Bush.

That said, Posey was a safe pick because of the lack of talent. Get the best available player with each pick, then go find a church somewhere and pray.

Kieshnick's claim to fame is being Brooks' cousin. He hit .300 this year, and using the scout's formula, projected to an average around .230 with a wood bat. He is a drop down, dead pull hitter with limited offensive and defensive skills. He may make the ML at some point, but if his career equals Brooks', the Giants should consider themselves fortunate.

The only way any of these guys, Posey included, see San Francisco before September, 2010 will be on a tour bus.
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Trecole696Red-Shirting
523 days ago
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Kelsdad. Do you have any idea what your talking about? Because none of your comments pertain to my article at all.

What does the pre-season rankings have to do with anything at this point?

Regarding the draft, i didn't say anything about the overall strength of the draft, I said it could be one of the Giants' better drafts in recent years. Right now the 2003 draft that produced Matt Cain, Fred Lewis and Kevin Corriea is the best they've had in the last 15 years.

Regarding Kiesschnik. I never said he was a sure thing. I mentioned the holes in his swing and mentioned he has the potential to hit 30+ bombs if he can develop properly, both completely true. Way too early to compare him to his cousin. Don't just do it because they have the same last name, they're not the same player.

And yes, Sabean has said that Posey is Bengie's replacement. Molina's contract is over after 2009. Unless Posey is an absolute bust, he'll be in the big leagues at some point in 2009 and the same holds true for Gillaspie.
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KelsdadAll-Star
522 days ago
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I do. Which is why I felt the need to clarify some things, because you don't. Now if you want me to rip you to shreds with your factual inaccuracies, I'll be happy to.
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KelsdadAll-Star
522 days ago
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I got to give you credit, though, Tre. You are a talented writer. It takes a special kind of talent to fluff up an organization down on its luck.
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Trecole696Red-Shirting
521 days ago
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Huh,

Didn't mean to hurt your feelings dude. I really actually meant to say I don't know what your talking about because your response had nothing to do with my post.

And no, you couldn't rip me to shreds on anything factual regarding major league baseball, bud, but by all means, take your best shot. What did I say in this last post that you would deem inaccurate?

Regarding the Giants, you say everything that mainstream journalists say and have no insite whatsoever. You really don't know the team so you shouldn't be making the strong opinions that you do about them. Such as declaring Posey won't be up until late 2010. Where are you getting this? I live in the bay area. I have connections with the san francisco Giants and yes, he'll be up far before then unless he gets hurt.

I respect your opinion Kelsdad and always have, but don't try to come in and say that you will tell me things about the Giants that I don't know because that is just ludicrous.

Anyway, thanks for the compliments about my writing skills and I hope we don't start battling each other on every post for no reason.
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KelsdadAll-Star
521 days ago
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Obviously, your "connections" with the Giants are not in scouting or player development.

Remember Tre, when posting stuff on a public site, you don't know people or their background. Before you make assumptions, know your audience.

I really don't know your connections to the Giants, (nor do I care) but I guaranfackingtee you I know far more about their draft picks than you do.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
521 days ago
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Posey is very overrated.

He was the "hot now" hype pick.

The only reason the Rays considered him was because he is a catcher.

Will he remain a catcher? That is to be determined. There's a tremendous leap between a college catcher who recently picked up the position and a major leaguer who will need to handle a MLB staff and call his own pitches.

I think in the long run Posey ends up being "BJ Surhoff Jr." - BJ was a #1 overall pick out of college. Like BJ, Buster is a guy that can play all over the field with no real "home" position. Can he hit? Sure... but let's see how he handles wooden bats, better pitchers and "the life" of a Pro Ballplayer before we tag him on a MLB roster in 2009.

Like KD was hinting, it's tough to go from draft to bigs in less thn two years (2010) - VERY few players do that, and even fewer of those players are catchers.


If he gets up to the bigs before 2010, it will be out of neccessity (injuries, etc) not for his better development...
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