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Firing of Randolph another gaffe by Mets GM Minaya

by Sportsbrief
created June 17, 2008, last edited April 07, 2009
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What bothers me about the Willie Randolph firing isn’t that it came now instead of after last season, but rather that it was done with absolutely no class by a GM who doesn’t belong in a MLB front office. Omar Minaya has made a plethora of questionable moves during his tenure as GM of the New York Mets, and this one was clearly his worst. Sure, you can argue that the Mets’ collapse at the end of last season warranted a firing – I tend to disagree, but that’s for an article nine months ago. You can also argue that the rather pedestrian start to the season by a team loaded with big names (sound familiar, Yankees fans?) warranted a firing of Randolph, as well. Either way, it didn’t need to happen like this.

I’m most disturbed by the timing and logistics of the situation. While the 34-35 record for the Mets thus far is unacceptable with its current payroll, I didn’t feel the blame should point solely at Randolph. The Mets were reeling last week, caught in the midst of a 5-game losing streak and having lost 6 of its last 7 games. But two of those games were blown by closer Billy Wagner, and the team lost three consecutive games to the San Diego Padres by a score of 2-1. Perhaps Willy could have made a move here or a move there to generate an extra run or two along the way, but when your offense scores 3 runs in 3 games, the onus needs to fall on the hitters and not the manager.

But nonetheless, if you’re going to fire a manager, the right time to do it might be during a losing a streak or at the tail end of it. Instead, Minaya chose to do after a 9-6 win last night and the Mets’ second win in a row. Not only that, but the team had won four of its last six and just received a boost in the return of Pedro Martinez, who had been out since early April. To me, however, that’s not the worst part. The Mets’ 4-2 win over Texas on Sunday split a doubleheader as the team took two of three from a high powered offense. And they did it at home, in Shea Stadium, in New York, where the team plays its home games, where the players, coaches, and organizational employees all call home and lay their heads. Again, if you’re going to fire a manager, do him a favor and fire him at home before a long road trip out West. Yet again, instead, Minaya decided to let Randolph lead his troops over 3,000 miles across the country to LA for a 3-game set against the AL-West leading Angels. And after that aforementioned 9-6 victory over said division leading Angels, Minaya then decided to fire his manager. On the road. On the other side of the country. After two consecutive wins. At 3:15 in the morning. When the rest of the country is sleeping. Ridiculous.

So let me get this straight, Omar. You have your manager pack up his things and travel across the country so he can win a game and then you can fire him so that he can again pack up his things and fly back across the country and go home without a job. Way to show some class. The fact that he fired him after winning two straight games indicates this was pre-meditated. Which makes the situation even worse. If the intention of Omar Minaya was to fire Randolph, why didn’t he do it after Sunday’s doubleheader at home? Or at least wait until another uninspired effort from his ball club led to another disappointing loss? Or, as I mentioned earlier, why didn’t he drop the axe last week after the five-game losing streak? Minaya doesn’t seem like the type of guy whose forte is good timing. You know the kind. The guy who tells his wife he’s leaving her the same day she gets fired from her job. Or the friend who reminds you at a relative’s funeral that you owe him $20 from that bet you guys made last week on who could chug a beer faster.

The bottom line is that Minaya made the move that everyone has been clamoring for since last September, but he couldn’t have screwed it up any worse. And I think he should follow his former manager right out the door for his transgressions as GM, this latest incident being his most offensive gaffe.

And I feel the situation sheds light on the question as to who should ultimately be held responsible for the poor performance of a baseball franchise: the manager or the GM? The GM and front office builds the roster with which the manager must work with. Unless the manager makes a seriously glaring error or serious of blunders, why should he be held responsible for poor signings? As a family friend so aptly stated this morning, it is the manager’s job to make chicken salad out of chicken $hit.

So let’s revisit the Omar Minaya track record as GM. During his time in Montreal, he traded away a trio of prospects for hard-throwing right-hander Bartolo Colon. Not bad, right? Well, those prospects were Grady Sizemore, Cliff Lee, and Brandon Phillips. He also dealt away Jason Bay, Orlando Cabrera, and Chris Young during his time there. Sure, the Montreal Expos were always positioned for an annual yard sale out front, but that doesn’t excuse Minaya.

Flash forward to 2004 when he came on board with the Mets and promptly signed free agents Pedro Martinez and Carlos Beltran to overpriced contracts. Martinez is making $11.8M this season while Beltran is collecting $18.6M. Minaya then acquired Carlos Delgado in 2005 in exchange for Yusmeiro Petit and Mike Jacobs, who is now the slugging first basemen for the Florida Marlins. Jacobs is making $345,000 while producing a stat line of .245/16/43 while Delgado rakes in $16M for a pedestrian .242/9/43.

Minaya made a flurry of transactions between 2005 and 2007 that saw the likes of Xavier Nady (.314/10/49 in ’08 for the Pittsburgh Pirates), Brian Bannister (17-15, 4.26 ERA, 41 starts in ’07 and ’08 for the Kansas City Royals), and Padres’ setup man Heath Bell (10-7, 2.00 ERA, 2 saves and 46 holds in 117 appearances in ’07 and ’08) all depart New York and flourish. And he’s overpaying other players, as well. Moises Alou ($7.5M), Orlando Hernandez ($7M), Oliver Perez ($6.5M), and Luis Castillo ($6.25M) are all cashing big checks with little production. Like his counterpart in the Bronx, Minaya has turned the Mets into an overpriced retirement home for ball players. He brings in big name players at a high cost to drive revenue, yet his teams aren’t winning ballgames because of injury, age and lack of talent. He certainly needs to be credited for bringing in players like David Wright, Jose Reyes, John Maine, and Ryan Church, and his work as GM certainly played a role in the Mets winning the NL East in 2006 and coming within a game of the World Series. But let’s face it: Minaya’s percentage of success is 50/50 at best and he never really gave Randolph a World Series caliber team.

That’s why I like what they did in Seattle. A month ago I listed John McLaren’s name on the chopping block, and rightfully so. The woeful Mariners are 24-46, worst in major league baseball. But the team recognized that it may not entirely be McLaren’s fault. The team is littered with low talent hitters, does not have viable arms in the bullpen and the rotation has two potential aces and three no talent losers. How is a manager supposed to win under those conditions? He’s not. So by ridding itself of the GM, it allows a new guy to come in, try and correct the issues at hand and give a guy they believe in an opportunity to win under new terms. Perhaps that’s what the Mets should have considered first before disgracefully dismissing its manager in the wee hours of the morning after the team’s second consecutive win, 3,000 miles from home. There was a better way and another way to do it, and the Mets and Omar Minaya chose neither.

-Bess

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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
525 days ago
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Managers are hired for only one reason - to be fired.


Guys who want to manage have it in their blood. They CAN'T escape it. They HAVE to be around the game. It's their life. That's why you hardly never, ever, ever see a manager "retire" (Was Connie Mack the last to voluntarily step down?). Even when they quit on top, they always seem to come back (Jim Leyland)

They either get fired, get 'nudged' briskly into retirement (Tommy Lasorda) or they die.

The Mets are a mess. Willie will land on his feet somewhere (Hello, Yankees! Sick of Joe Girardi yet?)
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
525 days ago
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The problem with Minaya in Montreal was he was handcuffed by MLB to make moves that weren't neccessary so they could evacuate that team.

The problem with Minaya in general is - a lot of baseball lifers just simply like the guy.

Baseball lifers are a fraternity of people who care for baseball's best interest ONLY when it matches their own. This is why when a Billy Beane or Theo Epstein come along are said to "think outside of the box" when in reality, they are just thinking and not stuck inside that tiny, cramped box of baseball lifers servicing each other for a profit.

You're gonna see a shift in the way the game is run in the next 10-15 years as the old guard continues to die off and get replaced by people who understand how to run a business.

It's already starting... See: Tampa Bay for a great example - Vince Naimoli and Chuck Lamar (baseball lifers who only know baseball) replaced by Stu Sternberg and Matt Silverman (successful businessmen with a passion for baseball)
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SSreportersLegend
525 days ago
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They won't say it, but there is a contributing factor to Randolph's firing, and let's say it involves a well known person in this community, and some sledgehammers.
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KelsdadAll-Star
525 days ago
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The cow pies are really going to hit the fan in Seattle. When the manager gets fired, the roster stays status quo. Not much, if any movement. When the GM gets canned, the whole friggin' roster gets nervous. The Mariners roster on August first will look a lot different than it does now.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
525 days ago
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But at least they dumped their best prospect for Erik Bedard first!
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Niteowl049AAA-er
525 days ago
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Well researched article. You could make an All Star team of the players Minaya has traded from Montreal and New York.
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KelsdadAll-Star
525 days ago
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And don't be surprised if they trade Eric Bedard for someone else's top prospect.
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SportsbriefVarsity
525 days ago
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Would the Mariners trade Bedard to the Yankees for prospects such as Kennedy and Hughes? Imagine him headling that rotation...
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
525 days ago
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Hmmm... Erik Bedard to the Yankees. he could be the New Carl Pavano!!! I love it!!!
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
525 days ago
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And KD, I think your tenure as "Main Guesser about the Ways and Fortunes of the Mariners" is perhaps dicey at best...


Brief - the more I think about Buhner for Ken Phelps, and how the Yanks wouldn't give up either of those guys for a proven commodity (Johan Santana), the more I think it's a real possibility!
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KelsdadAll-Star
525 days ago
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Who the fack asked you, Kurt.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
525 days ago
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Kurt... Warner? Cobain? Vonnegat Jr.? Russell? Angle? Weill? Kurt is such a weird name if you look at it long enough...
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KelsdadAll-Star
525 days ago
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Arrid XX
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
525 days ago
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Smells like Teen Spirit? Your vagueness is a good way to be mean to me.
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KelsdadAll-Star
525 days ago
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"Extra Dry" sense of humor? yes. Vague? not.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
525 days ago
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Who is Kurt? The guy that lit the fuse on your tampon this morning?
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KelsdadAll-Star
525 days ago
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No, Kurt was your selection, as the Main Guesser on the Ways and Fortune of Everything to be the next Suns coach. And I'd check south of the border, because it isn't my string smoldering.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
525 days ago
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oooooooooooh!

Rambis!

Now I got ya. Duh. You switched sports on me, which threw me off! That and I have an extremely annoying cousin named Kurt. It's a running joke in our family that whenever someone does soemthing dorky or spastic we say "Good job, Kurt"

Duly noted for the year-end "Things I was wrong about" fantastapalooza!

Did Aaron Crow hammer out his contract with RJ Harrison yet? (just kidding, just kidding)
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KelsdadAll-Star
525 days ago
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Did you seriously not catch that?

Has Reid Brignac moved to second base yet?

(Just kidding)
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
525 days ago
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I seriously did not catch that... you see all the Kurts I was thinking of, I was a bloodhound in a helicopter looking for a scent that was in my doghouse. And I can't get "Mack the Knife" out of my head now (Kurt Weill wrote it)

I now think it'll be Beckham that goes to second... If one isn't dealt, one is moving to second - and whoever it is, will be a 2B with some pop!

How's David Price doing in the Rays starting rotation since Spring Training? (just kidding)
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KelsdadAll-Star
525 days ago
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That was you who thought Price would have a shot at making the team.

I saw you earlier comment about him being called up by August 27th.

I won't forget.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
525 days ago
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It waaaaaaaaaaaaas?

Oh yeah...

In that case, I hope the Rays can catch the BoSox especially with A-Rod and Johan producing so well for them... (just kidd....)

Damn this is fun!

Sportsbrief probably hates us for jacking up this thread.
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KelsdadAll-Star
525 days ago
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I wouldn't be surprised, especially with all the attention the Mets have gotten with Santana, and with Hughes and Kennedy either hurt, ineffective, or both. I also have mixed feelings on what this does to the Ken Griffey Jr. deal. Do the Mariners expedite the deal, (for Bedard?), or scrap it altogether?
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SportsbriefVarsity
525 days ago
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The Mariners could parlay the Bedard deal, and prospects they receive in return, into the Griffey, Jr. trade with the Reds. I would love to see, come end of September, Bedard, Joba, Rasner, Pettite and Mussina throwing for the Yankees. Move Rasner to the pen when Wang gets back and I think that team can compete.
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KelsdadAll-Star
525 days ago
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If Wang ends up out for the season, which is a possibility, then I see the Yankees panicking, and making yet another ridiculous move. I would much rather have Bedard than CC Sabathia though.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
525 days ago
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Yeah, but since it's the Yankees, we'll be hearing names like Kevin Millwood, Livan Hernandez, Jon Leiber, Eric Milton, Jason Schmidt or Matt Morris!!! David Wells is still available....
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KelsdadAll-Star
525 days ago
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Wonder what Hideki Irabu is doing?
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
525 days ago
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Sitting on a lillypad catching flies???
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Tmil42AAA-er
525 days ago
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I think the announcement of the firing at 3 AM was a dick move. Who the hell does that?

The entire situation is screwed up, from Fred and Jeff Wilpon to Minaya all the way down to the coaches.

There are other repercussions, too, beyond Willie being gone.

  • Oliver Perez will completely regress to his 2006 self without Rick Peterson around.
  • With Jerry Manuel being the interim manager, Jose Reyes will become petulant and reveal his childish character.
  • The Mets will not respond with some great comeback to catch the Phillies. It will instead propel them to an 85-77 record and a 3rd-place finish behind the Phils and Marlins.
Am I being overly pessimistic? I don't know, maybe. But I really liked Willie.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
525 days ago
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Alright... you EST people need to understand a very simple concept.

3 AM EST... is 12 Midnight in Cali... less than 2 hours after the game was over.


Keep a perspective on things here, East Coast Biasers...
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
525 days ago
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Dammit!@ EDT, not EST... That's what I get for living in Arizona - where the clocks never change...
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Tmil42AAA-er
525 days ago
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Well, seeing as how it's an East Coast team we're dealing with here, I think the time on the East Coast is relevant. And if they were going to do it (fire Willie), they should have done it before going to Anaheim. Making him take the flight across the country, and manage the team through another game (which the Mets won, by the way, proving that the Mets had made up their mind prior to the game that they were going to remove him as manager) is disrespectful. The Mets ownership and front office is a joke and should be ashamed of themselves for how they handled this situation, going back to the end of last season.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
525 days ago
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I heard that Willie WANTED to be fired in Anaheim so he could say... "I just got fired by the Mets but I'm going to Disneyland!"
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Marconi85Soccer Kid
525 days ago
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Sure, there is always reason to start thinking of firing a manager when the team is underachieving. But you can only underachieve when you have talent. But judging talent by the payroll is just plain stupid. I hate it when people say a team with high payrolls should achieve well. On the other hand, the problem for me doesn't lie with these people, but with the over-paying.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
525 days ago
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But they're only over-paying guys that are underachieving. If they were achieving, then they'd be earning their money...
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Marconi85Soccer Kid
525 days ago
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When I compare the payrolls of Youkilis and Delgado, then a Delgado with the stats of Youkilis would be underachieving. He, and the rest of the Mets, would be unbeatable when you would judge by payroll.
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Tmil42AAA-er
525 days ago
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Of course Delgado's underachieving relative to his contract. Most older players do. Unless you're ridiculously good in the second half of your career, you're going to be overpaid. Most free agent contracts are backloaded.
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SportsbriefVarsity
525 days ago
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I think your point sheds light on the debate as to whether the manager or GM should be fired in an instance like this. You say a team shouldn't be judged by its payroll alone, I agree. But the manager doesn't determine payroll, so if he's given a bunch of overpaid losers to win with, why should he automatically be expected to bring home a championship. I don't think Randolph was given a fair shake here. Minaya should get canned with him.
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OvertheedgeVarsity
525 days ago
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the mets were suposed to do good, they werent, manager fired, simple story
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SportsbriefVarsity
525 days ago
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again, not entirely Randolph's fault. He was given a bunch of old, overpaid players. Like Marconi said, just b/c the team's payroll was high doesn't mean the team should automatically play well. It could just be a case of poor work done by the GM, which I think is what happened here.
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Marconi85Soccer Kid
525 days ago
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I think so to Sportsbrief. If he doesn't do his own job well enough, and just gonna buy some big names with even bigger payrolls, then nothing spectacular will happen. Like in the article: 'Sounds familiar, Yankees?'
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