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Changing Overtime Rules for NHL Playoff Games

by Jy826
created June 04, 2008, last edited May 04, 2009
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The NHL Playoffs. The Stanley Cup Finals. It’s as exciting as anything in all of sports.

However when it comes to overtime for an NHL playoff game (like Monday night’s Game Five from Stanley Cup between the Pittsburgh Penguins and the Detroit Red Wings where the two squads skated through two full overtime periods lasting forty minutes with nothing but goose eggs on the scoreboard) the sport can transform from exciting and thrilling to burdensome and frustrating for fans. Last night’s contest was put to a merciful end when nine-plus minutes into last night’s third overtime period, Petr Sykora found the back of the net to keep his Smog city squad alive for one more game.

Extended overtime games-like last night- also become physically and mentally draining on for energy-depleted players who can sometimes only stay on the ice for thirty seconds before heading back to the bench for a much-needed breather and have other residual effects like turning casual fans away from the game and sabotaging last night’s NBC prime-time schedule.

In overtime periods of regular season games, the NHL first uses a four-on-four lineup which lasts for five minutes. If a game is still without a victor, a three player shoot-out system is utilized , where skaters from each team go one-one-one to challenge the oppositions goalie (hockey’s rendition of soccer’s penalty kick system) to determine the winner of the contest.

However during the playoffs, the NHL does away with that bastardized form of the sport and uses the sudden death system of the “first goal wins” which is the right way to determine the outcome of a playoff game. Certainly no sane hockey fan would want to see a Stanley Cup Final or NHL playoff game decided by a shootout, especially if their team is on the verge of clinching or being eliminated from a series. But it also unleashes a paradoxical effect which allows the fastest game on earth to morph into the most testing game on earth as last night showed.

Here are two suggestions I have for overtime playoff hockey contests to prevent them from turning into scoreless marathons where players turn into zombies on skates.

Suggestion One: Cut periods in overtime from twenty minutes down to ten minutes. This would give players more much-needed rest as a game continues to march on without a goal.

Suggestion Two: Play three to four periods of overtime which last ten minutes. If the game still has not been decided stop playing regulation hockey and replace the shoot-out system by combining the four-on-four rule with the shoot out system. My suggestion would be to award each team five power-play sessions lasting two minutes to determine the game’s final result. Of course there would still things that would be needed to figured out such as which players would have to sit in the penalty box and when. But I believe this proposal would certainly increase overtime scoring without having to exit the framework of normal hockey play to settle the outcome of a game, while being able to do it without completely exhausting the players, exasperating fans and horrifying television executives while keeping the sport’s excitement at a sky-high level.

I have a feeling a majority of players or fans who watched or played in last night’s game or was involved in a multiple overtime period game, such as the five-overtime game between the Philadelphia Flyers and the Pittsburgh Penguins from eight years ago-would probably agree with me.


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SSreportersLegend
544 days ago
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I seriously thought this guy avoided a ban and wrote another "article" about rule changing, but this is a well thought out argument.


I think you're right, make it 10 minute OT periods and 4 on 4 hockey. I still don't think the idea of a shootout system would work because it would be anti-climactic (see soccer penalty kicks).


If it hasn't been decided by the 2nd OT (which would be the equivalent of 20 minutes), then I'd insert that fun little power play thing you talked about from there on out.
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False ProphetAll-Star
543 days ago
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you can't make that joke unless you were here to see Pnatt's articles...
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DeutscherRed-Shirting
544 days ago
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I disagree, its fine the playoff overtime is perfect and fair. Your tired, tuff shit suck it up and lets see who wants it more. Probaly none of the players who played in last nights game would agree with you. Hockey is a brutal beutiful game that takes everything you got and then some.
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Jy826Soccer Kid
543 days ago
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I agree fatigue is part of the game and any sports competition should be decided by who wants it more but you have to be realistic too and let the players rest somewhat. I mean would it make sense to make a hockey game just one period that lasts 60 minutes and not allow time outs?
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DeutscherRed-Shirting
543 days ago
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You dont get what Im saying, nothing about the playoffs needs to change. Its the way it is for a reason and Im sorry if you dont get it. I hate that everyone is always trying to change everything about the way the NHL is played. I say enough. The nets are fine the goalies are fine the overtime is perfect. Constant changes and talk of changes makes the NHL and its fans seem insecure of the game. Its like the sweaters RBK changes them with their new fabric and sleeker cut. The problem is noone grows up wanting to look like mom shrunk sweater in the wash and you had to wear it anyways.
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Jy826Soccer Kid
544 days ago
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In response to SS reporters: I'm not saying go 4 on 4 at in OT. I'm just saying use shorter periods. For power play idea, I'm glad you liked my idea. I realiz that idea isn't very likely but I really think there should be extra time to rest during OT's and shorter OT periods and I think that's realisitc
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Anonymous Fanatic #1
544 days ago
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i somewhat agree with what you are saying on shorter periods and more time for breaks but i think that i should be a four on four OT for 5-10 minutes and not 5 on 5. on your second thing i think its a good idea but would never get administered, there would be to much debate on how it would work out. The playoffs should also never be decided in a shootout, just wanted to add that
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The PipDiv-I Stud
544 days ago
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The 10 minute period is a good solution to the issue. It would be fair, without being stupid (College football overtime rules), and it would allow the quality of play to remain high. I think it might end game quicker because players will be able to be more aggressive.
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Simms1156Div-I Stud
544 days ago
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I actually think the complete opposite. OVertime in a playoff game is as intense as you get. That is the exact opposite of frustrating it is electrifying. Watching two teams lay it all on the ice for 6 periods and neither one of them either to prove they are better than the other until it becomes a test of wills, thats what playoff competition is all about.
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Jy826Soccer Kid
543 days ago
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I certainly agree with your point of view, as I stated in my article scoring a goal is the best way to settle an OT. But I'm just proposing other ideas.
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JuTMSY4Legend
544 days ago
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The Flyers played the Pens for 6 OTs...Keith Primeau scored the game winner and if the Penguins and the Lions played, my money would be on the Pens...Football or hockey...doesn't matter ; - )
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The PipDiv-I Stud
544 days ago
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mercifully fixed
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CityhockeyfeverVarsity Captain
543 days ago
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That 2000 Flyers-Penguins classic went five overtimes, not six.
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SSreportersLegend
544 days ago
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Granted, it's rare you get this many OTs to that probably is another argument to use.
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Tej8722JV Squad
544 days ago
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OT hockey is electric. Of course I'm a huge fan so I can see where it could get painful for the casual fan. I think that administering a multiple power-play overtime scenario would be difficult and probably never accepted in the playoffs. I'm ok with shortening the OT periods to 10 minutes, but it really isn't much different than having it be 20 minutes unless you change something (i.e. number of players on the ice) from one OT period to the next. I'd be ok with experimenting with 4-on-4 in OT after a couple of periods, but personally I don't think any changes are needed. I was on the edge of my seat for all 50 minutes of OT on Monday.
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Jy826Soccer Kid
543 days ago
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I understand what you are saying about a PP system settling a playoff game and its not likely but it was just an idea I wanted to throw out there.
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OvertheedgeVarsity
543 days ago
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that ot was great, dont change a thing
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RawbeezeitzMajor Leaguer
543 days ago
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I think creating some sort of bizarre power play shootout system to end a playoff game would alienate casual fans more than a long sudden death game. A confused fan is someone about to change the channel.

10 minute periods would be nice. Or at least have an extended TV timeout at the 10 minute mark. Making overtime 4 on 4 also wouldn't be a bad idea. It would open the ice up and reduce everyone's total ice time.

But as a hockey fan, multiple OT games are a treat to watch, something we don't get during the regular season. And when the Stanley Cup is on the line, it just makes it even more intense and exciting.
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Gman2797JV Squad
543 days ago
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I like the idea of 10 min periods. Although I would be more inclined to do a 20 min and then a 15 and then 10's the rest of the way.

I like 5 on 5 but maybe go to 4 on 4 after the 2nd OT. The only problem with 4 on 4 is that the Defensemen still wouldn't get a rest. So the game would still be a little sluggish.

I love OT the way it is and will stay up to see on OT game any day. But I can also understand the need and want for better hockey and I think you may be on to something with shorter OT periods.
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J-DawgVarsity Captain
543 days ago
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The only problem with 10 minute OT's is that you have breaks every ten minutes instead of 20 which would make the games even longer. I think your powerplay idea might work, but it is a little too "out there" and like Rawb said it might alienate casual fans. Right now I don't see anything wrong with the NHL's overtime rules. If there's a sports fan flipping through the channels and sees a stanley cup finals game in triple overtime, do you think he's going to change the channel?
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RawbeezeitzMajor Leaguer
543 days ago
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I actually was watching the OT while bowling, and even my friend who doesn't like hockey at all was excited about the game going into triple overtime.
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Jake The SnakeRed-Shirting
543 days ago
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Maybe if he dosn't like hockey.
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Jake The SnakeRed-Shirting
543 days ago
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That was suppose to be a reply to J-Dawgs comment.
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Anonymous Fanatic #2
543 days ago
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That Flyers-Pens game is one of the greatest sports memories of my life BECAUSE it ended at two thirty in the morning. Monday's game with OT was one of the most exciting games I've witnessed and I detest both teams.
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Jy826Soccer Kid
543 days ago
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I will say I understand that my Power play idea is very unlikely but I think it would be intersting. I also understand that people that OT hockey is exciting and a goal to settle the game no longer how long it lasts is totally understandable. As a baseball fan I wouldn't want to see a World Series game decided by a home run hitting contest if the game went past the 18th inning, or starting each get to start an inning runner with on second base or an NBA finals game decided by three point shooting contest, after a game went past three OT's but in terms of hockey (and soccer) i think something has to be done after a certain amount of time has been played. I really would consider giving longer breaks and letting players be fresher when they reach the ice as it may seem it may take longer, in the long run it would increase the chances of a goal.
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Smmonroe2Varsity Captain
543 days ago
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THe NHL Playoffs is about sucking up injurys and playing hurt, doug weight lifted the cup with a seperated shoulder, many players do this stuff. It is what makes the NHL playoffs so great, I love overtime, breathtaking plays close calls and good fun
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Pittsburgh GunnyMajor Leaguer
543 days ago
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The NHL playoffs are just fine, any true hockey fan knows this.
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CityhockeyfeverVarsity Captain
543 days ago
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Jay, I completely understand that you are interested in trying to find ways to improve the game of hockey regardless if you follow the NHL or not, but I don't believe any serious changes to playoff overtime rules are needed.

Forgive me if any points I make have already been brought up by others here.

First, playoff overtime periods don't have TV timeouts for a reason. No player, coach or fan wants the game to drag out, especially if this is taking place late at night (in case in point, Monday night). We want the game to end as quickly as possible.

Secondly, there is a reason for shorter player shifts. It is to have everybody not run out of gas so quickly the longer the game goes. The longer it takes to decide a winner, the shorter those shifts become. Players are banged up, wearing down, mentally drained, whatever. Many times, a mental mistake leads to the winning goal. Not all, but a number of times, it does.

I don't mind at all if the NHL decided to shorten playoff overtimes to ten minutes, but that's as far as it goes for me. The game needs to stay the same. No gimmicks to reel in fans, no shootouts, no crazy power plays or 3-on-3s. If you want a power play in a playoff overtime game, one of the teams has to commit a penalty. Yes, I know. Referees much more times than not will put the whistle away in overtime. But look at what happened in Game 5. A power play goal decided it.

And as a few other people said, sometimes the longer a playoff game goes and especially if what is at stake is about as big as it gets, then people will tune in. Multiple overtimes are seldom seen, but not a regular occurrence. There will be those curious watchers IN ADDITION TO the hardcore hockey fans.

Here is one question to throw out there and maybe it might swing the entire debate to another level.

Would this playoff overtime rules discussion even exist if these Stanley Cup playoff games began in the early afternoon instead of prime time? Let's say it started at 1:00 PM and it ended as late as 6:00 PM or 7:00 PM, would anybody be upset about how long it took? Probably not.

However, during the week, having NHL playoff games start during the daytime will never happen. On weekends, you might. But the four major sports leagues and the four major broadcast networks are much more inclined to start them in prime time because that's when they claim to reel in the most viewers, just like their prime time shows (non-sports programs). So this part of the debate is pretty much a moot point.

So I say leave the playoff overtime rules alone. If there must be any change whatsoever, reduce the length of the periods to 10 minutes and that's about it.
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Anonymous Fanatic #3
542 days ago
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i understand your points. The power play idea is just an idea and I doubt it would ever be adapted. But I think something should be done and yes and making OT periods shorter would and could work. I haven't said this but I would say sometimes I think Hockey OT can end to quick such as a goal being scored in the first minute of an OT. I would like to see at least 5 minutes playued for the game is called. If the OT is tied after 5 minutes then i would say then defintely go sudden death.
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Anonymous Fanatic #4
222 days ago
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I suggest that the playoof system be left as is. I would suggest that no touch icing bein introduced and also the award of three points for a regulation time win during the regular season.
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Anonymous Fanatic #5
210 days ago
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i do not agree with this at all. this is not regular season, this is playoffs. i dont care about missing primetime tv, yea the hockey might get boring but thats the game. if your a fan you'll stick it out to the end just like the players do i only see 2 arguments you can make. 1. long overtimes take a toll on players and can result in the series going downhill. 2. if the game is a 1030 start in the west and goes into a 3rd ot most north americans will be asleep. (not me though, i'd take a sick day) i hope it stays 5 on 5 20 min sudden death forever, but not so sure it will. i just want to mention i just watched anaheim at detroit (round 2) ducks win 3OT and loved it!
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