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Niteowl049
Baseball fan following baseball since 1955. Have been fortunate enough to have seen Ted Williams, Mickey Mantle, Roger Maris, Johnny Bench, Roberto Clemente and Dale Murphy play baseball in Kansas City and Houston. Served in Army in Hawaii and Vietnam with 25th Infantry Division.

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Baseball Notebook: Looking Bad for Clemens

by Niteowl049
created February 26, 2008, last edited February 10, 2009
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With a draft letter being written by House staffers asking the Justice Department to investigate whether Roger Clemens made false statements, things couldn't look worse for Clemens. It doesn't necessarily mean that there will be a criminal investigation into the matter, but for Clemens to be singled out does not bode well for him.

So far, there has been no mention of questioning the veracity of the statements made by trainer Brian McNamee. Clemens has to be concerned knowing that the House Oversight Committee questioned the truthfulness of his statements with no mention of McNamee's testimony being questioned.

If Clemens has not been telling the truth, it will damage his legacy and lessen his chances of entering the Baseball Hall of Fame. If Clemens has been lying while vociferously denying he used performance enhancers, he will join Rafael Palmeiro in the liars club and will lose all credibility.

In fairness to Clemens, he has not been proven guilty of anything but being singled out like he has been by the House committee has been a major setback for now at least until he can prove he has been honest in his denials of using performance enhancers. Only time will tell if he was telling the truth or fabricating his statements to make him appear to be honest when he wasn't.

What if Bonds Signs With Rays?

If Barry "Balco" Bonds signs with the Tampa Bay Rays, he may be at the mercy of the Rays as to how much he gets paid in 2008. He needs the Rays to achieve his 3000th hit and 2000th RBI this season. The question is: Are the Rays willing to deal with the media circus that follows Bonds as they follow not only his baseball exploits, but his exploits in the courtroom? His trial may not even be held until the season is over, so there may not be any legal entanglements that prevent him from playing the whole season without interruption.

If Bonds does become a Ray this season, he will almost certainly be the DH, and the Rays would have Carl Crawford in left, B.J. Upton in center, and a combination of Jonny Gomes, Rocco Baldelli, and Cliff Floyd in right. Baldelli has been extremely injury prone having played 156 games in 2003, 136 games in 2004, missed the 2005 season entirely, 91 games in 2006 and 35 games in 2007. This all depends on how many outfielders the Rays have on their roster on opening day.

One answer to the logjam in the outfield may be for the Rays to shift Upton to shortstop, since Jason Bartlett is not nearly the offensive force Upton is. Upton hit 24 home runs and drove in 82 runs while hitting .300 in only 129 games while Bartlett had 5 home runs and drove in 43 runs while hitting .265 for the Minnesota Twins in 2007.

With Evan Longoria at third base, Upton at shortstop, Akinori Iwamura at second, and Carlos Pena at first base the Rays would field a solid starting outfield and infield. The only weak spot in the lineup could be Dioner Navarro as catcher. Navarro hit 9 home runs and drove in 44 runs while hitting .227. There is talk of the Rays possibly signing Mike Piazza and/or Kenny Lofton. Adding Piazza makes more sense if he can stay healthy all season, since there is already a plethora of outfielders. Piazza won't add anything to the defense, but should supply more offense than Navarro.

The Rays could surprise in 2008 with Scott Kazmir, James Shields, and Matt Garza at the top of the rotation. At MLB.com Edwin Jackson, Andy Sonnanstine, Jason Hammel, and J.P. Howell are behind the top three starters in their depth chart but all of them had ERA's of over 5.00 in 2007. The bullpen should be stronger in 2008 with the addition of Troy Percival and with Al Reyes returning.

The Rays could surprise everyone in 2008 by finishing ahead of the Baltimore Orioles and the Toronto Blue Jays if they can pick up one more solid starter out of spring training camp or via a trade. The Rays should improve on their 7-11 record against Baltimore in 2007 and their 5-13 record against the Boston Red Sox. They were 8-10 versus the New York Yankees and 9-9 against the Blue Jays, so have proved they can hold their own with those teams.

The Rays should be a vastly improved team regardless of whether they sign Bonds or not. So they are not desperate to sign Bonds since this team is ready to make a move upward in the standings with or without him.

Annual Bert Blyleven For Hall of Fame Campaign

It is beyond me why Bert Blyleven is not in the Hall of Fame. It goes beyond him being short of 300 wins by 13 wins since the Hall of Fame is full of pitchers with less than 300 wins. Blyleven has 287 wins, and right behind him are Robin Roberts (286) and Ferguson Jenkins (284), both of whom have been admitted to the Hall of Fame already.

This is a list of several pitchers in the Hall of Fame with less wins than Blyleven:

Red Ruffing: 273
Burleigh Grimes: 270
Jim Palmer: 268
Bob Feller: 266 (missed 3 full seasons due to World War II service in prime of career; he won 25 games during the last season before serving country)
Eppa Rixey: 266
Red Faber: 254
Carl Hubbell: 253
Al Spalding: 253
Bob Gibson: 251
Vic Willis: 249
Joe McGinnity: 246
Amos Rusie: 245
Juan Marichal: 243
Herb Pennock: 240
Mordecai "Three Fingers" Brown: 239 wins

This list goes on and on, so will skip down to:
Sandy Koufax: 165
Dizzy Dean: 150

In addition, Blyleven is 5th all-time in strikeouts (3701), which places him fifth on the all-time list with only Nolan Ryan, Roger Clemens, Randy Johnson, and Steve Carlton having more strikeouts.

Blyleven is 9th all-time in shutouts (60), with only 8 Hall of Famers ahead of him. He has more shutouts than Hall of Famers Bob Gibson, Steve Carlton, Jim Palmer, Gaylord Perry, and Juan Marichal.

Bert Blyleven, in my book, should have been admitted to Hall of Fame years ago, yet we see pitchers like Bruce Sutter (who is 21st on the all-time saves list with 300) enter the Hall of Fame, while the second best reliever in total saves, Lee Smith (478), remains on the outside looking in.

Sometimes you wonder if the Hall of Fame voters even look at the stats since so many players with outstanding credentials wait by their phone every January hoping the voters will come to their senses and cast their vote only for their stats and not for any other reason since the Hall of Fame was not meant to be a popularity contest. My only hope is that Bert Blyleven will be getting a call from Cooperstown next January (assuming that is where the calls are made from).


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Tyrone BriggsHall of Famer
625 days ago
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The only thing that could save Roger Clemens is whether or not he can provide the government evidence against Barry Bonds.
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Niteowl049AAA-er
625 days ago
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Tyrone..you may have hit on something there...Clemens probably knows a lot more than he is putting on. He is like the other players who don't want to break the code of silence.
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Tyrone BriggsHall of Famer
625 days ago
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Roger Clemens has "rat" written all over his face. Hell, he threw Debbie under the bus. What would stop him from outing Bonds?
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SSreportersLegend
625 days ago
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The sad part is....I guarantee you he's going to get a lighter sentence than Bonds.
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RomiezzoLegend
625 days ago
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Again, great article, Niteowl. I honestly think that the Rays shouldn't sign Bonds at all. Sure, they need more seats filled, but I'm sure that will happen since the Rays have gotten a lot better. It seriously isn't worth the hastle to sign him; as you already stated, there are 5 outfielders who are worthy of playing.
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Niteowl049AAA-er
625 days ago
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I agree with Romi in that it is not worth the hassle of having Bonds on the Rays and it is not fair to to the other outfielders. Crawford is one of the best players in baseball and Upton is showing signs of being a great player and if Gomes is sitting on the bench you lose the services of a player who could hit 35 home runs if he can get 500 at bats.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
625 days ago
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Uptonm is NOT playing short ever again. Center is his for the next 12-15 years. Navarro isn't a weak spot, he just had a horrendous first half and if he hits .000 he's still a very good just-turned TWENTY FOUR year old catcher... He'll be fine.

And the only way the Rays sign Bonds is at a steep discount. Like I said - every team has had "internal discussions" about Bonds. the Rays are smart enough to spin it into a no-cost PR coup. Me thinks you'll see Mike Piazza in Tampa before Bonds - I hope they sign BOTH!

This team can handle the media better than you think. I personally think the local media is overmatched, if anything.

And whether the Rays sign Bonds or not - YOU ARE ALL TALKING ABOUT THE RAYS!!! - the front office is good, I've been saying it and saying it.... maybe now y'all will start listening to me???
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Falcon02520Legend
625 days ago
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Why would you want Piazza and Bonds to sign with the Rays?
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
625 days ago
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Because they don't NEED them but they would bring plenty to the team that will benefit in the long run.

Piazza can get in Navarro's ear and support Pena.

Bonds can take the media off of the ret of the team.

They're both Hall of Fame players, they've both "been there done that" and it prepares the team for life on the top side of the AL East - dealing with big names, high profiles, etc - they're gonna be there for the next decade, they might as well get used to it.

A young team will always benefit from having legends around...
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RomiezzoLegend
625 days ago
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A young team will always benefit from having legends around... What about in 1998, when the Devil' Rays had Wade Boggs and Fred McGriff? Sure there is a lot more talent in the ball club now, but I don't think adding a whole lot of older vets is going to help the team out a lot. The Rays have Percival, Floyd, etc. No bigger names than that, but I'd go with only Piazza. Piazza can show leadership in the team since he's a catcher, and he has experience as a catcher; he can help the Rays' pitchers like several other veteran catchers have with young pitchers on their respective teams.
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Falcon02520Legend
625 days ago
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but two controversial players such as these two? Doesn't seem like the type of citizens that Tampa seemingly wants to bring in now
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RomiezzoLegend
625 days ago
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I wouldn't go as far as signing both of them for anther reason I forgot to mention: both of their attitudes. They might bring the Rays' team chemistry down. Bonds will probably be another Elijiah Dukes. Piazza? Well, we all know what he can do. I think he can control his temper when he wants to. Therefore, I'm saying, sign Piazza; he's worth having.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
625 days ago
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HOW can you compare Bonds and Dukes?

Dukes is 22 and has 5 kids with 4 babymamas, has a Dad in jail for life (murder) and a crack dealing Mom.

Bonds is the son of a former All-Star that had HoF potential and Godson of a REAL Hall of Famer (Mays) and cousins with another (Reggie)...

Fundamental differences under the surface, and the rest is media bullshit anyway... Dukes isn't a bad guy, he just had no support structure. Bonds is a dick and well, has a fair amount of reasons to be!
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Agent0Red-Shirting
625 days ago
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Wouldn't Bonds DH? He wouldn't be taking jobs away from either Crawford or Upton.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
625 days ago
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Which is why I think this whole story is a load of crap/AWESOME PR move by the Rays. Bonds has said time and again he won't DH and he prefers the NL - and he WON'T displace Crawford... do the math.
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Niteowl049AAA-er
625 days ago
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Hope Manny is right about Navarro. If he has a good year I think the Rays will be a factor in the AL East and possibly be in the race to the end. Not too excited about Bartlett being everyday shortstop but maybe he will surprise me.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
625 days ago
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Bartlett's gonna be decent. He had a nagging neck injury that affected his play. He's a better fielder than he gets credit for...

Navarro's 2007:

1st half - .177-2-13 .491 OPS

2nd half - .285-8-31 .815 OPS

100 or so more plate appearance and he hits that magical 1000 PA that good players tend to turn potential into reality. He'll be fine...
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False ProphetAll-Star
625 days ago
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I dunno about bartlett. I've watched him several times, and still have yet to figure out what is his deal, and what type of a player he will evolve into
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RomiezzoLegend
625 days ago
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Navarro's stats is another example of evidence as to why teams should depend on/have faith in their younger players. All they need is time... a couple of years, and they should develop into decent players.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
625 days ago
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FP, the Rays are gushing about him. Their scouting department chalks last year's performance to a neck and shoulder injury that he never fully recovered from... 26 errors at short may sound like a lot, but many times guys with that many errors just get to more balls than guys with less errors and range (see: Derek Jeter) - Hell, early in his career Cal Ripken had 26 errors in a season TWICE - he turned out ok; even Ozzie Smith had a 25 error season at SS.
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RomiezzoLegend
625 days ago
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Look at A-Rod at 3B now. .965 Fielding percentage; compare that to .937 the year before. All it takes is time... I can't stop saying it about (almost) everything.
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Niteowl049AAA-er
625 days ago
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Thanks for the first and second half breakdown on Navarro. Shows he he may have a breakout season. Sometimes a player gets to a point like Navaro where they put it all together and never look back.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
625 days ago
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Deener was worried about keeping his job behind the plate in the first half. Shawn Riggans had the starting job won before an injury hit him the last week of Spring Training. Navvy pressed too much at the plate and it showed.

Navvy is a hell of a defensive catcher - especially considering the staff they had last year! - and calls a game well. Maddon showed faith in him and by July he was relaxed and became a team leader on and off the field.

Now, if AFLer John Jaso continues his development like I think he will, the Rays will have another position with too many players. Riggans is healthy again, too.

What a difference a year makes!
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Niteowl049AAA-er
625 days ago
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Looks like everything is falling into place for the Rays. It was Maddon didn't give up on Navarro. Jaso has impressive stats in the minors and walked 12 more times than he struck out. He has hit over .300 all three minor league seasons and each season his average has improved plus has some power and drives in a lot of runs plus had a .407 OBP last season. He is a player to watch.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
625 days ago
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He impressed me in Arizona Fall League and it had NOTHING to do with how he played. I watched him with the guys in the bullpen more. He was loose, interactive and energetic with the pitchers and just looked he was having a damned fun time every day.

But he WORKED, too.

I like guys that can bust their butt AND have fun doing it - especially when they produce as well...
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Niteowl049AAA-er
625 days ago
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It was good Maddon didn't give up on Navarro.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
625 days ago
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Maddon's nickname is "Captain Optimistic" among the beatwriters.

He calculates everything to umpteenth degree and always spins things to the positive.

He is so upbeat some of them hate it. I think he's a great coach and would have LOVED playing for him if he was my manager
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RomiezzoLegend
625 days ago
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I love the fact that there are some people/managers/players who don't give up in the mlb. They've got a lot of heart for what they do, and that's play baseball. If you're not positive, pretend to be, even if you're not remotely close on winning a division. Act optimistic and you'll be optimistic.
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Niteowl049AAA-er
625 days ago
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thebaseballcube.com shows Jaso playing 5 years...the other site just showed his last three years but even over 5 years his average has increased each year.
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Niteowl049AAA-er
625 days ago
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That is why I like Nick Swisher...he has fun playing and still does the work.
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Niteowl049AAA-er
625 days ago
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Maddon is a perfect manager for the Rays. I will be rooting for the Rays and him to have a breakthrough season. I am hoping Pena can come close to the numbers of last year but the team is strong enough to make up for him not having a year like last year. Not many players can go from one home run to hitting over 40 the next season.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
625 days ago
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Only 2 players had a bigger jump at ANY point in their careers -Killebrew and McGwire
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RomiezzoLegend
625 days ago
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If there isn't one team that I don't root for that I like, it'd be the Rays over any other team. The fans, players, and staff never show that they quit. I'm actually rooting for the Rays this year. I hope that they do really well and show teams that they have been underrated for quite a while and all they needed was a couple of years.
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Niteowl049AAA-er
625 days ago
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I didn't originally mean to write a preview of the Rays season but once I got started couldn't just do the outfield and leave out the rest of the team.
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KelsdadAll-Star
625 days ago
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Scott Kazmir walked off the mound today after feeling discomfort in his elbow and will have an MRI.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
625 days ago
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Yeah. So?
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RomiezzoLegend
625 days ago
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Uh-oh.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
625 days ago
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You guys should get an MRI for your kneejerk reaction.

He's fine. It's a precaution... He's the teams ace, if he feels "discomfort" they we be cautious.

Relax guys, it's February he's been throwing for a week. It's a touch of tendonitis.

No worries here.
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RomiezzoLegend
625 days ago
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Yeah, I wouldn't worry about it too much. I'd hypothesize that his arm was just tired and he needed a rest.
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KelsdadAll-Star
625 days ago
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First of all, no one knee-jerked anything except you, jerk.

Second, you don't need an MRI to diagnose tendonitis.

All what was said is what was said, don't read anything into it.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
625 days ago
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1) So I'm a jerk. And your point?

2) You get an MRI to make sure. THEN you call it a "touch of tendinitis"

Read the report. They said he is fine, the strength tests were all 100% (a pretty CLEAR sign it's a touch of tendonitis at worst - or Kaz is a pussy) and the MRI was nothing but precautionary.

Come on, KD - you know there's a big difference between "pain" and "hurt"
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KelsdadAll-Star
625 days ago
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I read the report, duh!!
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Niteowl049AAA-er
625 days ago
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Hope Kazmir is going to be OK. Kazmir is ready to have a breakthrough season.
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FrugolfVarsity Captain
624 days ago
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How about putting Roger & Barry on the Rays and counting it as jail-time.Sorry Rays fans , I couldn't resist.
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Niteowl049AAA-er
624 days ago
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Roger and Barry could both be in jail by the end of the year if justice prevails. It is looking worse for Roger everyday. He is starting to get caught in lies and his repeated denials of drug use are less convincing with each passing day.
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Tyrone BriggsHall of Famer
624 days ago
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Oh, I dunno about that NiteOwl. It might take years for federal prosecutors to build a perjury case against Roger Clemens. And don't forget that the election in November will undoubtedly cause a shakeup in personnel over at Department of Justice.
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