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Niteowl049
Baseball fan following baseball since 1955. Have been fortunate enough to have seen Ted Williams, Mickey Mantle, Roger Maris, Johnny Bench, Roberto Clemente and Dale Murphy play baseball in Kansas City and Houston. Served in Army in Hawaii and Vietnam with 25th Infantry Division.

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Baseball Notebook: Bill "Spaceman" Lee

by Niteowl049
created April 28, 2008, last edited May 21, 2009
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Players From the Past: Bill "Spaceman" Lee Born: December 28, 1946 in Burbank, California Major League Debut: June 5, 1969 Final Game: May 7, 1982

Bill Lee pitched 10 years for the Red Sox and 4 years for the Expos but he is better known for his outlandish statements than he is for his pitching which wasn't that bad since he had a 119-90 record with a 3.62 ERA. It was a different era before pitch counts became the barometer as to how long a pitcher pitched in a game but even back then it was an accomplishment to have pitched 72 complete games in his career.

He pitched for USC in college baseball from 1966-1968 following Tom Seaver who had left after the 1965 season.

One time he wanted to change his uniform number to 337 since it spelled Lee upside down. Below are some quotes attributed to Lee through this link to baseball-almanac.com

http://www.baseball-almanac.com/quotes/quobsl.shtml

Lee will be inducted into the Red Sox Hall of Fame on November 7, 2008. He pitched in more games than any Red Sox lefthander with 321 appearances as a Red Sox pitcher his 94 wins is the third most for a Red Sox pitcher in their history.

In 1988 Lee ran for president on the Canadian Political Rhinoceros Party ticket on the "No Guns, No Butter" slogan saying that both can kill. However since he was not on the ballot he received no votes.

He was once fined $250 by commissioner Bowie Kuhn for sprinkling marijuana on his pancakes.

The following article describes even more of Lee's quotes including his disdain for the DH which is not surprising considering he had to pitch to an extra hitter who sometimes was one of the best if not the best hitter on the team:

http://www.baseballreliquary.org/lee.htm

There are so many great quotes by Lee that it would take forever to retype them so am supplying this link to baseball-libary.com where one of the better quotes is about his opinion of the way Carl Yastrzemski dressed off the field:

http://www.baseballlibrary.com/baseballlibrary/excerpts/redsox_dugout6.stm

The following video sort of gives a glance into the psyche of Lee and the interviewer tries to get him to expound on what he puts on his pancakes and he doesn't mention marijuana but syrup so evidently this was after his fine by Kuhn for using marijuana on his pancakes and Lee didn't want to lose another $250 so let that question slide by.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=AAa7PPdSElg

Bill Lee in the following 2008 video which is of low quality but the Spaceman is in top form as he espounds his political views:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=cq2on77kGAU

In 1978 Lee was traded to the Expos for the immortal Stan Papi who batted 523 times in his 6 year career which is close to an average season. In that career he hit 7 home runs and drove in 51 runs. Lee was 16-10 the next season after the trade while Papi hit .188 for the Red Sox.

I believe there is still a place in baseball for players like Bill Lee who may be off the wall but still bring attention to the game with their antics. Lee may never make the Hall of Fame but he still was a solid major league pitcher who won 29 more games than he lost. He had to be good to last 14 years in the major leagues.


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Davis21wylieMVP
563 days ago
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Haha, Bill Lee, what a character.
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Niteowl049AAA-er
563 days ago
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He was one of a kind...we need some players like that today. Or at least bring Mark Fidrych out of retirement.
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DNLLegend
563 days ago
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Yep, I agree. It makes the game more fun for everyone.
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RomiezzoLegend
562 days ago
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I think Jonathan Papelbon is today's Spaceman Lee... wouldn't you agree? papdance2.jpg
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Niteowl049AAA-er
563 days ago
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Baseball can be fun but it wasn't for Mark Kotsay the other day when he was lollygagging around thinking he had caught the third out of the inning but instead it was two outs and a run scored. He must have been thinking of his wife and forgot about the game.
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Niteowl049AAA-er
563 days ago
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We need someone to run the bases backwards like Piersall to liven things up.
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JuTMSY4Legend
563 days ago
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You do an article on spaceman and no mention of the "Leephus" pitch... for shame ; - )
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KelsdadAll-Star
563 days ago
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For the past 20 years or so, Lee has managed a team of former Red Sox players who travel around New England playing local amateur teams as a fundraiser. The players are available before and after games for pictures and autographs, there is usually a meet and greet beforehand, like a breakfast or something which allows fans a chance to interact. Lee may be more known as a flake, but it should also be known he is a leader in public service and charitable endeavors. He takes his responsibility as a former ML player quite seriously, and should be commended.
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Niteowl049AAA-er
563 days ago
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Found this about the Leephus pitch: Rather than rely on the use of a fastball, Lee developed as a finesse pitcher. He threw a variety of off-speed pitches, including a variation of the Eephus pitch. The Leephus pitch or Space Ball, the names for Lee's take on the eephus pitch, follows a high arcing trajectory and is very slow.
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KelsdadAll-Star
563 days ago
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He threw one of those eephus/floaters to Tony Perez in the '75 World Series which ended up on the roof of the warehouse across Lansdowne St.
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Niteowl049AAA-er
563 days ago
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I agree with Kelsdad that Lee has a lot of respect for baseball although he may not have been taken seriously as a player. After reading your description of the fundraising games I wish Lee would visit Tennessee but I guess that would be cost prohibitive with the price of gasoline.
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KelsdadAll-Star
563 days ago
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Not to mention Tennessee isn't in New England....
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