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ALCS Breakdown: Assumptions vs. Realities a.k.a. Boston Red Sox vs. Tampa Bay Rays

by Manny Stiles
created October 09, 2008, last edited February 10, 2009
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The 2008 ALCS has already been made out to be a Classic Showdown. Words like "magical", "experience", and "intangibles" are being tossed around like cans of Milwaukee's Best at a frat party. None of these words mean anything in context of reality. Many people are overlooking the obviousness of this series – these two teams have been "fighting" all season. Not just on the field, but in the AL East standings. There will be few surprises in this series. By all accounts the Rays won all of the minor battles – the scuffle, the division, and the season series 10-8, but all of that gets thrown out the window and the War for AL Supremacy begins.

Don't kid yourself, these two teams know each other VERY well and despite public perception that the defending champs have an advantage with their "experience", that won't matter in this series. The Rays have the "experience" of winning against the Red Sox when they've needed to – in September, when the Rays won 4 of 6 head to head games and were without key players Evan Longoria, Carl Crawford, and B.J. Upton as the Red Sox were playing their best baseball of the season.

Now the Rays are fully healthy and ready to throw the kitchen sink at their division rivals as the Red Sox have questions concerning their team. Mike Lowell is out for the series and that changes the dynamic of the Red Sox. Josh Beckett is coming off his shortest postseason outing of his career and has been shaky for the past month. Luckily for the Red Sox, other players are peaking at the right time.

A huge factor in this series is Home Field Advantage. Red Sox advocates will wish that fact away by stating HFA didn't help the Angels, but the Rays are clearly dominant at home. They swept the Red Sox at home twice. They had the best home record in baseball since the juggernaut '98 Yankees and a ridiculous 23-2 record at home with crowds over 30,000. Indeed, all of the crowds – despite the ignorant speculation and disregard of understanding the Tampa-St. Petersburg demographics - at Tropicana Field will be sold out for the ALCS.

The Rays are trying to complete the Sox Sweep (beating the White and Red Sox) and the Red Sox are hoping their formula of trading away their big name player mid-season will net them another ring (See: Nomar Garciaparra, 2004)

There are many ways to look at this series... guessing, numerology and assumptions aside – although I will likely have Sports Shaman do a Tarot reading for this one) let's look at reality, position by position, and somewhat in depth.


Breaking down each position:

1B:

Carlos Pena: One of the finest fielding first baseman in the game. Plus power and although he strikes out a bunch and pulls most everything, he is a big run producer. Furthermore, he is a supreme optimist and thoroughly enjoys playing for the Rays. He is a clubhouse leader and always smiles, which is why I call him "Cheese" – he always looks ready for a picture opportunity.

Mark Kotsay: Kotsay was a waiver wire addition to the Red Sox late in the season. He is 32 going on 42 and hasn't done much with his bat and may very well end up yielding some time at first to Big Papi which will show how much the Lowell injury hurts this team.


Advantage: It's not even close. With Lowell out, moving Youkilis to third, Kotsay is serviceable at best as an infielder and clearly he's no match to Youk, Pena, or Lowell with the stick. Pena is quietly one of the best 1B in the game two years removed from getting released by the Red Sox.

Rays 9 – 6



2B:

Dustin Pedroia: Scrappy personified, he takes advantage of his tiny strike zone and uses the Green Monster to his advantage as evidenced by his AL leading 54 doubles. He was a starting All-Star and even though he’s Boston’s smallest player in stature, he is their biggest player in significance. As Dustin Pedroia goes, so do the Red Sox. He led the AL in hits and runs scored. He has started the 2008 playoffs fairly cold and if the Rays keep him off the bases the Red Sox will have trouble in this series.

Akinori Iwamura: Aki has been the leadoff hitter, setting the table for the Rays and disrupting pitchers on the basepaths. He has been outstanding on defense taking to second like a worm to dirt. His unorthodox style has served him well much like Ichiro's has done for him. Aki has amazing footwork and balance and is the guy responsible for the mohawk movement. Aki is well liked by his teammates and is a fan favorite.

Advantage: Not as far apart as you'd think. Pedroia had a career season and is in the MVP talk, but Aki is a better fielder, a better, faster baserunner and considering it was his first season playing second base, he was fairly outstanding. Perhaps the most important position for both teams, these guys make their teams go!

Red Sox 10 – 8


SS:

Jason Bartlett: Many Rays players call JB the team MVP. Surely the addition of Bartlett in the Delmon Young for Matt Garza trade solidified the Rays' weakest position: shortstop. Originally it appeared that Bartlett was merely keeping the position warm until prospect Reid Brignac was ready to take over. Bartlett's effect on the team's overall defense has been quite astounding. He's not going to win a Silver Slugger in his career, but his ability to get crucial hits when needed has been remarkable. His fielding prowess – despite 16 errors on the season - has enabled the Rays to reverse what was one of the historically bad fielding teams in baseball history last season into one of the top ten defensive teams in the game.

Jed Lowrie: 24 year old rookie (and 2007 Arizona Fall League alum) has joined the Pedroia train as this year's player who is exceeding realistic expectations. He had a hot stick for the Sox in the ALDS. His range and arm are adequate as his only two errors this season came as he filled in at third base. He's still a rookie and most likely isn't a permanent solution at short for the Big Spender Red Sox for the long term. Shortstop has been a revolving door for the Red Sox since Nomar was shipped out of Boston.

Advantage: Lowrie is still a rookie. He's roster fodder and you'd think a team with a $100+ million payroll would have more experience in the middle infield. Lowrie is a weak spot on the Red Sox, for sure. Anything Bartlett adds with the bat is a cherry on top.

Rays 8-6


3B:

Evan Longoria: The Rays' best rookie to date (and another 2007 Arizona Fall League alum) was not only an All-Star, but pretty much is assured of the Rookie of the Year award, despite not starting the season with the Big League club and also missing nearly a month due to a wrist injury after getting hit by a pitch. He is a supreme fielder and a heady base runner. Obviously, he has plus power and is also a doubles and run producing machine. Longlorious is unflappable and is already looked to as a team leader due to his calm confidence, superior talent, and general likeability.

Kevin Youkilis: He made a case for himself as an MVP candidate this year and started the All-Star game at first base. .312 – 29 – 115 is a damned fine season and Youk is not only a fan favorite but also a clubhouse leader. It seemed that the Red Sox brass deemed him less dispensable than Manny Ramirez as their tiffs has something to do with Ramirez's mid-season departure, for sure.

Advantage: Longoria is the best young third baseman in the game and might be an MVP several times before his career is over. Some people (mostly me) say that Longoria is the new Mike Schmidt. Youkilis at third isn't a bad thing, but he's perhaps the best defensive first baseman in the game, at third he's merely "good". The edge goes to Longoria simply because...

Rays 10 – 9


C:

Dioner Navarro: A 2008 All-Star for the first time and another Rays player that could be considered as team MVP. He hit a career high .295, which led the team and has established himself as one of the premier catchers in the American League. His handling of the pitching staff has been a key ingredient in the Rays' success this year.

Jason Varitek: "Tek" has been on the downward plunge since 2005 offensively. For the first half of 2008, he was downright putrid. He still manages his pitching staff excellently, but it's obvious his days behind the dish are dwindling. Sure he has "experience", but will that overcome the wear and tear of several lengthy seasons behind the dish. How much more does he have left?

Advantage: Both are switch hitters, both are defensively proficient although Navarro threw out 38% runners and Varitek only 22% this season and both are emotional leaders of their team. Varitek is 36 and has a little more power, while Navarro is 24 years old and is clearly a better player at this stage – who would you rather have?

Rays 9 – 8 (that's generous for Varitek at this point)


LF:

Carl Crawford: Still one of the fastest and naturally gifted athletes on the planet, Crawford had a season that he had never had before; he spent a lot of time off the field as his teammates picked up the slack. He returned from hand surgery just in time to get himself on the playoff roster – he wouldn't miss the Rays first postseason for anything. Perhaps the best left fielder in the game when healthy, the Rays have found a way to win without him and will only benefit more from having him. He should get healthier as the playoffs wear on and he's definitely fresh-legged for the series.

Jason Bay: Perhaps the most under-rated player in the game when he was in Pittsburgh, the Red Sox traded for him for two reasons; 1) to get something in return after they decided to expedite the Manny trade and 2) they knew the Rays had their eyes on him. Rumors around a Bay to the Bay deal were rampant since Spring Training and the Rays had more than enough pieces to make a deal, but the Red Sox swooped in and stole away one of the finest fundamentally sound players in the game. Bay always hustles, always backs up other positions, and plays his heart out. He has plus power and might actually be the Red Sox's best position player, though the trendy Sox fans don't seem to recognize his skill.

Advantage: I'm calling this one a tie. Crawford is the better player due to his otherworldly athleticism, but he is still not himself after a season of hand, knee and hamstring injuries. He is superior defensively and on the bases, but Bay is as good as they get with his all-around baseball skills, effort and focus.

Tie 10-10


CF:

B.J. Upton: People were sleeping on Melvin Emmanuel Upton this year despite the fact that he was a 20-20 player last season. He was critiqued for a perceived lack of hustle, but in fact he is so gifted physically that everything he does simply looks too easy. He is wiry and appears thin, but he is country strong. His hands are as amazing as his feet. Keep in mind that even though B.J. has been in the majors for four seasons already, he just turned 24 in August. He has some refining to do as a player, but the sky is the limit for him as he will only get better. The reports of his immaturity are vastly overstated as he is as fine a gentleman as I have met in the game. His pedigree starts with his dad who was a decorated policeman and NCAA basketball referee. B.J. has the respect of his teammates and is one of manager Joe Maddon's favorite players. They have a close bond indicated by Upton's insistence that Maddon joined the team movement and got a Mohawk too.

Jacoby Ellsbury/Coco Crisp: Speed and not much else. Ellsbury might have led the league in stolen bases this year by six over Upton, but he doesn't exude Upton's strength and has NOWHERE near the arm that Upton does in the outfield. Ellsbury made a lot of diving catches this year that Upton didn't because B.J. gets a great jump on balls hit to him and gets to the spot to make those same difficult catches easy.

Crisp is a piece of dogcrap and a defiler of the ethics of the game. He plays dirty and disrespects the game with his antics. He is fast and a capable fielder and has a better arm than Ellsbury (whose arm makes Johnny Damon seem like Roberto Clemente).

Advantage: This matchup is perhaps the biggest assumption of them all. People know Ellsbury's name, but B.J. is the superior player and despite the numbers, it's really not that close. If Upton didn't open eyes with his two HR performance in game 4 of the ALDS or his laser of an arm, nothing will. People will probably overlook him forever but he's one of the best skilled outfielders in baseball. His extreme speed and cannon arm allow him to play a shallower center field than any CF in the game. His training as an infielder increased his overall baseball awareness. Ellsbury and Crisp are quality players, but neither is a superstar and neither will ever be.

Rays 9 - 8


RF:

J.D. Drew: A player that seemed destined for greatness before he decided to spurn the Phillies and stuck it out in the Independent Northern League before getting drafted again by the Cardinals. A vagabond perhaps due to his cactus-like personality, there's no doubt he should have been a great player with his tools. He has a great batting eye and draws walks easily. He's still a pretty damned good player when healthy – which seems to be rarely. He's played more than 135 games in a season in only 3 of his 11 years in the bigs. Will his back hold up? Will his lack of emotion hinder his teammates? This guy is more questions than answers.

Gabe Gross: If you want to talk "intangibles", THIS GUY has them. He has been disgustingly good at getting the big hit at the right moment. He's had several walk-off hits this season and he's made amazing catches at the right moments. He doesn't seem to play until the 8th inning or later. Despite his pedestrian season totals, he's been as huge for the Rays as anybody. He's a very smart player and a hell of an athlete – he was a college quarterback, just like his manager Joe Maddon.

Advantage: Drew is far and away the superior player in this matchup, but I have the feeling that Gross will continue his streak of coming up big when it's needed and Drew will revert to form in shrinking in the spotlight.

Red Sox 9 - 6


DH:

David Ortiz: Perhaps once the most feared lefthanded hitter in the game and certainly a prime time performer Big Papi took a dip this season due to a wrist injury. Ortiz will see a lot of the "Bonds shift", a defensive alignment first unveiled on the world by Joe Maddon when he was a bench coach for the Angels in the 2002 World Series. Ortiz can flat out hit, but unfortunately, that's ALL he can do. He is frozen molasses on the basepaths and a spastic hatchetman with the glove. He is the heart and soul of the team, but you can't help but wonder how much he'll miss the protection of Manny Ramirez behind him in the lineup during this series. If Kotsay can't get going at the plate, Ortiz might be relegated to donning the leather.

Cliff Floyd: One of the purest line drive hitters in baseball the last two decades, people look at his HR totals and think he doesn't have pop. He kills outfield walls with his line shots and typically is a pull hitter but can use the whole field. He also has a knack of getting go-ahead RBI in tie game situations. He was brought to the Rays to mentor Carl Crawford and B.J. Upton and provide leadership in the locker room in leading by example and by flashing his World Series ring. He's the older brother of the team and has been a vital cog in the team's success despite missing half the season to a knee injury. More than likely he'll only DH against righties and Rocco Baldelli will DH against lefties.

Advantage: Both players have had lengthy careers and seen it all in the game. Ortiz is the superior player, but age and injury is catching up to him. Not having Manny behind him has been the bigger explanation in his lessened effectiveness. Pitchers aren't afraid to attack him like in the past. Floyd is great when he's healthy and one of the smarter players in the game, but it seems he's always fighting a nagging affliction. Both players aren't what they used to be, but still better than most DHs.

Red Sox 10 – 8


Bench Players:

Rays: OF Rocco Baldelli, OF/3B Eric Hinske, IF Willy Aybar, IF/OF Ben Zobrist, OF Fernando Perez, C Michel Hernandez

Baldelli's return should have been the "feel good" story of 2008, but he's still contending with his mitochondrial disorder and the fatigue it produces. He is still a very talented ballplayer. Hinske carried the Rays while Pena was ailing. Aybar carried the Rays when Longoria was hurt. Fernando Perez might be the fastest Ray of them all and has had a blessed trime in the majors. Zobrist started at 4 different positions this season and is the kind of utility player Jo Maddon loves.

Red Sox: 1B Sean Casey, IF Alex Cora, C David Ross, C Kevin Cash, IF Gil Velazquez

"The Mayor" is a glove at first and little else, Alex Cora is a coach in uniform, David Ross' career highlight will always be his first HR – he hit it off Mark Grace in a blowout - Kevin Cash is barely a major leaguer and who is Gil Velazquez?? The Red Sox bench is thin and even one injury to a starter will crush the team.

Advantage: The Lowell injury and the fact that the Red Sox are carrying three catchers clearly limits their options. None of these guys (including Crisp) will strike fear in the Rays. The Rays bench has been outstanding all season long. Baldelli, Aybar and Hinske can all start and Zobrist can play any position on the field.

Rays 9 - 6


Pitchers:

The Rays staff had the 3rd best ERA in MLB with a 3.82. The Red Sox were ninth in baseball at 4.01.

Starting Pitching:

Game One:

James Shields: Shields is dominant in the Trop. He is a younger, more finesse version of Curt Schilling. He attacks and challenges hitters and comes at them with a wide array of pitches, arm angles and has a disgusting changeup. He doesn't walk batters and he gets them to get themselves out.

Daisuke Matsuzaka: Yes, Dice-K is a difficult pitcher to hit, but you don't need many hits to do damage to him. He walks a lot of batters - led all of MLB in walks in 2008 - and his 18-3 record is very misleading; he had plenty of run support this year. He had an amazing 6.23 runs of support per start. He's not invincible and might be the most over-rated starter in baseball this season. The Angels got to him with three runs on eight hits in 5 innings off him in Game 2 of the ALDS.


Game Two:

Scott Kazmir: Kazmir hasn't been himself this season. He missed the first month and a half of the season with elbow soreness and his last several starts he has given up the long ball. Against the White Sox, he was clearly too hyped up and started very shaky before settling down. When he's on, he's one of the best three lefties in the game.

Josh Beckett: Beckett didn't have a great season and is clearly been battling physical issues. He has a history of performing big in October and also against the Rays, but it seems he's more vulnerable now than ever. His regular season performances seems to indicate that he has focus issues and he clearly has a monster ego. His last five starts of the season were mediocre and his ALDS start against the Angels was the shortest playoff outing of his career.


Game Three:

Matt Garza: Garza has a big game mentality. He has nasty stuff. He can dominate and entire game. Unfortunately, he hasn't been able to keep his fiery competitiveness in check at all times. He gets a bit emotional and tries to do too much at times. He tends to have one bad inning and dominates the rest of the game. His mental toughness and make up is what you want from a starter in the playoffs. He pitches much better at home than on the road.

Jon Lester: Lester improved as the season went on and was a solid 7 inning pitcher each night out. There's a perception that Lester is one of the top flight lefties in the game – That's what they said about Erik Bedard last year, too. Lester is a nibbler and doesn't attack the strike zone; he relies on getting batters to chase pitches on the corners. He also demonstrated that he can be taken out early with aggressive hitting attack, jumping on his pitches early in the count – as demonstrated by the Blue Jays in August and September.


Game Four:

Andy Sonnanstine: "Greg Maddux-Lite" had his first whole season and showed that pitchers can control games without a 90+ mph fastball. His deceptive delivery and pinpoint control helped him to 13 wins. Sonny is a gutsy competitor and although he's prone to the longball it comes at times when there are no baserunners. He has some of the best junk pitches on the staff and won the 4th starter slot over Edwin Jackson, despite Jackson's more dominant "stuff".

Tim Wakefield: Wakefield might be playing his last season. I know knuckleballers can pitch forever, but Wakefield seems to have lost his effectiveness. The knuckler doesn't move like it used to and he got shelled a couple of times in August and September. The Rays knocked him out of the third inning of their game on September 17th by having their switch hitters bat righthanded. Maddon's approach proved effective as Willy Aybar had a HR off Wakefield and another RBI single while Fernando Perez and Gabe Bross also took him deep. When Wakefield is off, he's a batting practice pitcher. By far, Wakefield is the least effective of the Red Sox pitchers.

Advantage: These two staffs are two of the best staffs in baseball and are more evenly matched than people think. On any given evening, the Rays starters can be more dominant than the Red Sox starters. The Red Sox starters have benefited much more from early and more run support than the Rays starters, but Wakefield is the weakest link – his knuckler is a craps shoot. He is ineffective against the Rays and will need the Green Monster to keep them in the yard in Game 4. More than likely each team will get one dominant start from one of its starters and the series will come down to bullpens.

Tie 10-10 (although the stats say the Rays are better)



Bullpen:

Rays: RH Grant Balfour, RH Chad Bradford, LH J.P. Howell, LH Trever Miller, LH David Price

The Rays' improvement in the bullpen is the greatest and simplest explanation why they improved so much over last season. In 2007, the bullpen had a 6.16 ERA – the worst in over 50 years! This season, they allowed a MLB best, miniscule .220 batting average, had a 3.55 ERA and had the fourth fewest blown saves of any bullpen. Balfour has been lights out and J.P. Howell has been steady in multi-inning relief. Trever Miller is the lefty specialist and Chad Bradford's sidearm dealing has been a change of pace addition to the 'pen. Rookie David Price is destined to be a staff ace for a long time to come but will be the secret weapon in times of long relief need. Former #1 overall pick Price is far and away the best pitching prospect in the game and was Minor League player of the Year after advancing through all three levels of the minors before debuting in a Rays uniform in September. He is a fierce competitor and does not rattle at all. His composure, work ethic, and skill is second to no pitcher in this series, and he's the youngest of them all.

Red Sox: RH Manny Delcarmen, LH Hideki Okajima, RH Justin Masterson, LH Javier Lopez, RH Paul Byrd

The Red Sox bullpen is not on the same level as the Rays. They allowed a .247 batting average and had a collective ERA of 4.00. Justin Masterson has assumed the setup role since converting from a starter and is prone to walks. Lopez is the lefty specialist and Paul Byrd will be the long relief guy. The Red Sox' bullpen got smacked around a little bit against the Angels and certainly are the most likely part of the Sox roster to falter in this series.

Advantage: The Red Sox have a pretty good bullpen, however they are a bit overrated by the general consensus while the bullpen is clearly the Rays team's strength. The bullpen is going to decide this series since the starting pitchers are fairly evenly matched. The Red Sox bullpen is vulnerable and if the Sox hope to win this series, they will need to avoid using their ‘pen.

Rays 10 - 8


Closer:

Jonathan Papelbon: As good as they get. One of the three best closers in the game and a natural born psycho on the mound. He has supreme confidence and nasty stuff. He comes right at hitters and has the goods to blow anyone away. Pressure seems to be a non-issue with him. However, the Rays have demonstrated that he's not invincible and can be beat when they defeated him in Fenway in September with the division title on the line. He might be able to forget that and move on, then again... maybe he hasn't.

Dan Wheeler: Reunited with his old pitching coach Jim Hickey from Houston after last year's trade for Ty Wigginton, Wheeler has been thrust into the closer role due to the health issues of Troy Percival. Wheeler is certainly competent enough even though he tends to give up solo Home Runs when he has a two run lead. He's seasoned and has the stuff to be a closer as he has been outstanding as setup man. Grant Balfour and his nasty stuff might also get opportunities to close.

Advantage: Papelbon is a clear cut advantage for the Red Sox – if they can get to him. The Rays have shown they can beat Papelbon at Fenway and don't fear him or any reliever (they also beat Rivera this season, too). Papelbon is still a better closer than Wheeler who has good enough stuff, but has been a setup man for most of his career and is now the closer by default. One thing that works to the Rays' advantage is their ability to use anyone in the closer role.

Red Sox 10 - 7


Managers:

Joe Maddon: Maddon is Manager of the Year... hands down. He is the eternal optimist and handled his team like a wise sage all season long. He's "been there" before and directed a team with little talent and a piss poor attitude in 2006 into a powerhouse for years to come by showing the team that cohesiveness, 100% focus and togetherness will overcome adversity. He spent 33 years with the Angels organization, has learned from the best and seen it all. He never is at a loss for multi-syllablical words to express himself and is finally getting his due. Maddon has relied on guile, creativity and unorthodox methods to lead this team and the players believe in him 100%.

It started in Spring with all-out effort and "9=8". He inspired the franchise with his slogans and bringing in inspirational figures to ground and unite the team. Now they have a chance to make 9=1.

Terry Francona: Michael Jordan's minor league manager should never have been fired from the Phillies. He is a master at managing people and a wonderful game tactician. His dad was a ballplayer, he came up into the bigs with high expectations and never really played to his potential getting relegated to a role player. He learned the game from the bench during his playing career and his carefree attitude has breathed fresh air into a smothering media contingency in the New England.


Advantage: Let's be honest, these are two of the best managers and ego massagers in the game today. They both do things "out-of-the-box" at times and are both calculating with their usage of players.

Tie 10-10


Totals and Summary:

Oddly enough it's the Rays wearing mohawks, much as the rebellious participants did at the Boston Tea Party, standing up to the Oppressors of Freedom and overthrowing the King's taxation. Maybe this will be the new revolution; the Boston Sweep Party? OK, I won't go as far as to call it a sweep no matter how much I want to. The Red Sox put a lot of effort into beating the Angels and the Rays are suddenly hitting on all cylinders and the healthiest they've been all season.

Advantage: These teams are evenly matched – as indicated by their season win totals being a mere two game difference in baseball's toughest division. The series will come down to strengths and weaknesses.

The Rays are deeper and have a stronger bullpen, plus home field advantage and the mojo of the year. These are the types of seasons that the Baseball gods smile at and shine brightly upon. It's hard for a team with this much momentum and cohesion to suddenly lose that winning formula. They are brothers in arms, a family with one mission - to overcome any obstacle placed before them.

Rays 116 – 110 – see? I told you they are closely matched!

Prediction: Rays in 5. Great pitching and defense beats great hitting. The Rays have built their team on the proven championship formula and health has been on their side at the right moment - Now.

The Rays sweep the first two games at home in close scoring but not-that-close contests, the Red Sox beat Garza in Fenway then get blown out in Game 4. Game 5 goes extra innings as Papelbon allows the tying run in the 9th and the Rays pull their magic out of the cap once again at Fenway.


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RawbeezeitzMajor Leaguer
395 days ago
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Impressive breakdown. But not nearly as impressive as writing in the future...


"created October 09, 2008"
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
395 days ago
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AGM runs on GMT... where have you been?
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RawbeezeitzMajor Leaguer
395 days ago
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EST, and not noticing that until now.
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Anonymous Fanatic #1
392 days ago
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wow what a game 6-5 boston and tb banging it a round. Hope Boston holds on had them in 6. http:/www.CTSportsPicks.com to get all your free sports picks!
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
392 days ago
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Mmm hmmm...
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KelsdadAll-Star
395 days ago
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";;tossed around like cans of Milwaukee’s Best at a frat party" Drink good beer, throw full cans of piss around the room.
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JuTMSY4Legend
395 days ago
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There are no bad beers ; - ) some are just better than others...
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Sj-hypocycloidAll-American
395 days ago
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Oh, there are bad beers. Start with any beer that has 'Milwaukee' in it, and you've got a foundation. Not a good foundation, but a foundation.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
395 days ago
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Throw out anything made by Anheuser-Busch and you you just saved 8,000,000,000 rolls of toilet paper.
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KelsdadAll-Star
395 days ago
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Youkilis clubhouse leader? Since the Manny trade, he's been voted the player his teammates would most likely to kill.

If "so goes Dustin Pedroia, so go the Red Sox" were true, the Angels would have swept the Sox, seeing as Pedroia had one hit in the series.

I wouldn't be at all surprised to see some Youkilis at third, Sean Casey at first action in the series.

Got two words for you, Stiles, and these are two of your favorites:

Run Differential

As usual, nicely done. Noticeable was the absence of blatant homerism, which Red Sox fans confuse with intelligence.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
395 days ago
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Pedroia didn't produce much against the Angels, but look aty the whole season. When he got hot, so did the Sawx, when he cooled off, so did the Sawx.

Youkilis is an intense prick and a strange fellow, no doubt but he's still a vocal leader of that team.

So... who are you picking?
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
395 days ago
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Run differential or not, the Rays beat the Red Sox in ALL SIX one-run games between them this year... SIX!
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KelsdadAll-Star
394 days ago
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Sox in 6
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The PipDiv-I Stud
394 days ago
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The Angels also owned the Red Sox in the regular season. You have to ignore the regular season because the Defending World Chamos are playing like the defending World Champs.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
394 days ago
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No, Red Sox fans have to ignore the Regular Season because they have as many AL Division crowns since the Rays came into the league as the Rays do...

That AL Crown is a reminder (through HFA) that the Rays OWN the Red Sox... The Red Sox had more than enough chances to demoralize the Rays in September and couldn't.

Throw away whatever you want, Jonathan Papelbon knows the Rays know they can beat him. Dice-K knows the Rays can beat him - he didn't pitch more than 5 innings against them this year and the Sox lost two of his three starts against the Rays this year. Josh Beckett knows the Red Sox lost BOTH of the games he started against the Rays in September, too.


I can't wait... Let's get this over with.
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Anonymous Fanatic #2
391 days ago
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I have to agree. A guy who starts a fistfight in the dugout with a teammate over a meaningless strikeout in a meaningless game and is becoming famous for being a huge douchebag can hardly be called a clubhouse leader. Though I think he's a fine player and probably has the edge over Longoria at third base, in my opinion, even with the defensive downgrade. Youkilis has shown far greater consistency, and that matters in the playoffs.
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ASwaffAll-American
391 days ago
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Sorry, that was me.
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Sj-hypocycloidAll-American
395 days ago
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Nice breakdown and educational for me as I know pretty much bupkis about most AL teams. Some could argue that I know even less about NL teams, but I digress.


And I couldn't agree more that the Phils should never have fired Francona. Or Bowa. Those were some dark years in Philly.
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JuTMSY4Legend
395 days ago
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huh? I loathed francoma in Philly...

"a wonderful game tactician." I've watched enough Phillies games and now enough Red Sox games to have to disagree with that. Besides, being a game "tactician" in the A.L. is akin to training wheels in the N.L.

Then again, I still think the Sox were jackasses for firing Grady Little...
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
395 days ago
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You can't blame Francona for not winning in Philadelphia - even the greatest jockey can make a fat, slow horse only go so fast.
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Sj-hypocycloidAll-American
395 days ago
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Agree totally with the Grady Little firing. What the hell was that? Too bad it worked out for them. And love the jab at A.L. strategy. Nice to not have to worry about that pitcher's batting spot.


It is true that Francona didn't have much to work with in Philly. He certainly lacked a decent GM.
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AmphibiousSportsDuoVarsity
394 days ago
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That's why Hank Steinbrenner wants the DH in both leagues, so he can understand the ins and outs. It's hard to study when you're a middle-aged man firmly attached to your father's teet. Oh wait, the Yankees aren't in the playoffs? Where have I been?
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Anonymous Fanatic #3
394 days ago
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First off, this article is way too long. There is not enough new information to justifty such a long post. Seriously, it is over 5,000 words. I know Matt Silverman gave you some money to do this, but come on. But other than that, great work.

A couple things, though. To grade Carl Crawford, who had a down year, and Jason Bay so closely is absurd. Crawford is an excellent defensive player, but he cannot get on base and his OPS ranked second-lowest among qualifiying left fielders. His defense is much better than Bay, but not enough to make for up for the offensive difference. When he was on the DL, it was not that big of a loss for the Rays. He has the reputation, but has been a major dissapointment when it comes to adding value in the ways that actually help teams win baseball games.

Good call about Upton, who was unfairly ripped on in the media for his lack of hustle at times. His defense in center is top-notch, and he gets on base. If his shoulder was healthy, he would have hit more homers too, and he should hit for more power next year. He was huge for Tampa Bay.

Agree the Rays have the better bullpen, as the Red Sox had a tough time getting to Pap at times. The Rays have a better defense than you give them credit for, though. They had the best defensive efficiency rating in the game, converiting more balls hit into play into outs than any other team. That is what matters, really, not the useless fielding percentage stat.

You are, indeed, being generous to Varitek, whose performance does not live up to his reputation or paycheck.

But, overall good job. I say Rays in 6.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
394 days ago
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Matt Silverman didn't give me any money, he gave it to an AIDS charity.

5,000 words is nothing for me... hell, some of my comments are that long! =)

It seems you know your Rays pretty well and you're not the first person to critique my Crawford rating but all I can say is - who would you take over him?

He's a two time all-star and can change a game at any moment. His hand is better, his hammy and knee are healthy and rested and the ALDS gave him an opportunity to face live action again; I think you're going to see 100% Carl Crawford in this series and not 2008 regular season Carl Crawford. (That's why I rated him a 10)
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AmphibiousSportsDuoVarsity
394 days ago
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Using All-Star selections to validate anything is akin to justifying your worth with your number of friends on MySpace.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
394 days ago
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He wasn't voted in as an All-Star, he was selected. At least the coaches know what they're doing.
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KelsdadAll-Star
394 days ago
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Over the course of his career, the Rays have a better record with Crawford in the lineup than without, and that includes this year. He may be the most underrated impact player in baseball.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
394 days ago
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THANK YOU.

Somebody who "gets" "impact".

KD, how can you be so freeking smart about baseball and truly understand the nuances of the game so well and still get all your predictions wrong? It baffles me!!! =)
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KelsdadAll-Star
394 days ago
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I picked the Yankees third, didn't I?
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
394 days ago
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Yeah, that makes up for picking the Rays fourth and the Mariners and Padres as divsion winners... fair enough!
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KelsdadAll-Star
394 days ago
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Forgot my Cincinnati Reds National League champs....
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
394 days ago
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No, I didn't because I actually kinda liked that pick... =)
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JuTMSY4Legend
394 days ago
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The weirdest thing about those whole article is there isn't mention of a certain word in it... that word being clutch
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AmphibiousSportsDuoVarsity
394 days ago
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Clutch, you say? Rest assured the wonderful "IT" will pop up at some point, I duuno if any of the "frail" Japanese players will have what it takes (as I type this Akinori hits a BP homer).
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
394 days ago
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"clutch" and "choke" are terms reserved for automobiles.
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JuTMSY4Legend
394 days ago
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and the New England Patriots...
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KelsdadAll-Star
394 days ago
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Only time he hits 'em
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AmphibiousSportsDuoVarsity
394 days ago
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"clutch" and "choke" are terms reserved for automobiles. What about Mama Cass on the couch?
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The PipDiv-I Stud
394 days ago
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The Red Sox showed against the Angels that they can shut down a running offense, by keeping the lead off batter off base. If they can do that again the Rays can't win.
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The PipDiv-I Stud
394 days ago
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Sox in a 7 game classic.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
394 days ago
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News Flash: This just in... The Rays aren't the Angels.
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AmphibiousSportsDuoVarsity
394 days ago
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'running offense' The rays also aren't Louisiana Lafayette, now there's a running offense.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
394 days ago
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This series will come down to Special teams, no doubt.

BTW - the Angels had 129 SB this year... the Red Sox had 120. I guess the Red Sox are a "running offense" too?

The Rays had 142. That's ONE more SB every seven games than the Red Sox.

The Angels also had 159 HR while the Red Sox had 173.

Oh yeah, the Rays had 180.

What kind of offense does the Rays have again?

Red Sox fans - STOP the ASSUMPTIONS. Reality shall prevail!
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CrackajgDraft Pick
394 days ago
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<standing applause>
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Anonymous Fanatic #4
394 days ago
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I read and watch everything Tampa Bay Rays related, and armchairgm.com is unquestionably the smartest and best researched website in the world. Everything that is posted is smartly researched. Nothing is ever written that doesn't make perfect sense. Unlike many (all) of the mainstreet news outlets that rely on reporters thoughts, I can't recall a single time that armchairgm writers attempted to B.S. me. Seriously... you guys are the Rays bong! Keep up the good work.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
394 days ago
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Thanks! (You must've missed thetremendous hype running blogs and extreme hype word explosions. Maybe you could tell someone who will PAY ME to do this!!! =) Seriously, sign up and join the fun!
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KelsdadAll-Star
394 days ago
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Check in the mail?
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
394 days ago
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It's a compliment to you too, KD.
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KelsdadAll-Star
394 days ago
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The Red Sox have the advantage over the Rays in runs, hits, doubles, RBI, total bases, walks, strikeouts, OBP, slugging, batting average, sac flies, xtra base hits, and OPS. The Rays have the advantage in triles, homers, stolen bases, fewest double plays, and groundball/fly ball ratio

Pitching, its, Rays advantage in ERA, saves runs earned runs, walks, stolen bases against, whip, OBP against, average against.

Red Sox advantage in fewest hr, strikeouts, groundball/flyball ratio, slugging against, K.IP

fielding wise, Sox lead in percentage, Rays in defensive efficiency.

Overall, the Sox have a bigger overall advantage, and while experience doesn't matter, performance does.

Red Sox in six.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
394 days ago
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The Rays won EVERY one run game between the two teams this season. SIX one run games...

You think beating the Red Sox SIX times by one run doesn't make the Red Sox question themselves?

As for your stat-a-thon showing the Red Sox"performance", I submit to you story of the 1960 World Series... look at those stats!

Stats don't win games, TEAMS do.

Come on next Thursday! Let's just get this over with already!!!
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KelsdadAll-Star
394 days ago
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You made it a point to show selected Rays offensive advantages, when in fact there aren't many. Just evening the playing field. Each team has a 50% chance to win the series, right?
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
394 days ago
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If they're playing the series on coin flips, yes.

If they're playing baseball, no.Here's a stat for you:

Come from behind wins - blown leads:

Red Sox 36 - 33

Rays 45 - 28

There's no doubt that the Red Sox were the better offensive team this season - Hell, the Rays only had ONE guy hit over .275! - a lot of the Sox advantage had to do with the Fenway Skew (their away numbers are much lower except for HRs), the number of blowouts the Sox won (and close games they lost)and the fact that the Sox have some good hitters, but what's that old playoff adage?


"Pitching and defense does something something..."
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KelsdadAll-Star
394 days ago
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Extra inning games: Rays, 10-6, Sox,

RISP: Sox, .280, Rays, .246

RISP, two out: Sox, .246, Rays .232

Homers: Sox, 173, Rays, 180

BA: Sox, .280, Rays .260

Batting average Home: Sox, .292, Rays, .274

Batting average Away: Sox, .268, Rays, .248

ERA: Rays 3.82, Sox, 4.01

ERA Home: Rays 3.30, Sox, 3.78

ERA Road: Sox, 4.26, Rays, 4.34

ERA Starters: Rays, 3.95, Sox, 4.02

ERA Relievers: Rays, 3.55, Sox, 4.00

Run differential, seventh inning on: Rays +53, Sox, +104

Season series, Rays, 10-8

Runs scored, Sox 87, Rays 67


The difference between winning and losing a one run game can be miniscule, a blow out is a blow out, no matter how you slice it.

I'm not saying the Rays don't have a chance because they do. Deep down, I hope they win, but my reasons for picking the Sox, as the numbers show, is they're the better team. A two game difference over a 162 game season is pretty miniscule too.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
394 days ago
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We both know that only ONE stat matters - Wins/Losses


That two game difference came in games Head to Head!!

Both teams had the exact same record in games not against each other.

If the Red Sox were truly "the better team", they would have won the division.


The Rays pitched better... hmmm, get out!

You forgot one other key element: the Rays are superior defensively - especially now that Youk moves to third.

"Pitching and Defense does something soemthing..."
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
394 days ago
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How about pulling the Red Sox numbers at the Trop and the Rays numbers at Fenway?
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
394 days ago
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It appears that Eric Hinske will be left off the ALCS roster and be rreplaced by Edwin Jackson. Hinske didn't play in the ALCS anyway... Adding Jackson gives Maddon another long relief/power arm out of the 'pen. E-Jax does throw some ferocious gas. Also, the Red Sox are adding Mike Timlin (sweet!) and axeing Gil Velazquez (logically) from the ALCS roster... leaving the Red Sox VERY thin in the infield.
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BryantWrestlingAll-American
394 days ago
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Good stuff ...
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KelsdadAll-Star
394 days ago
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"You forgot one other key element: the Rays are superior defensively - especially now that Youk moves to third."

Slight correction there..

The Rays are superior defensively BECAUSE Youk has moved to third.

With Lowell at third and Youkilis at first, the Sox are superior.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
394 days ago
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I disagree... I don't want to throw stats at you but the Rays had the best defense in MLB this season based on range factor.

Also remind yourself that the Rays season totals -including range factor - AND the traditional (meaningless) fielding stats include Bartlett, Longoria, Pena and Crawford all missing considerable time.

The Rays made outs this year on LOTS of balls that other teams were giving up as hits - the team ERA wasn't done ALL on pitching, was it (for instance - Tampa Bay's staff went from 1st in AL K's last season to 4th this season)?


What else you got for me?
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KelsdadAll-Star
393 days ago
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"What else you got for me?"

Seriously?, cause you ain't given me nothin' yet..

When the almighty Manny has to resort to (meaningless) sabermetric stats in an attempt to prove a point, desperation has set in, and is an admission the argument is lost.

You can try and spin this anyway you want, Betsy Ross, but the numbers don't lie, the Sox are a better defensive team. I agree the loss of Lowell and the moving around of other guys to compensate that lowers the gap, but the Sox are still better.

Got anything for me?
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
393 days ago
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OK, let's say that Pedroia and Aki are equal defensively and Bartlett and Lowrie are too... whatever you're smoking... fine. LEt's put Youk back at first and say he's better than Pena and Lowell and Longo are the same at third (now we are really smoking something.)

You really think the Red Sox have the better defensive outfield? Do you thik Varitek is ANYWHERE close to Navarro?

Seriosuly, I don't know how you can say the Red Sox are superior defensively - by any stretch of the imagination. The Rays make errors on balls that are hits against the Red Sox. Furthermore, look at the fields... The Trop has a fast infield and larger foul dimensions meaning that the Rays field infield skippers and foul balls that the Red Sox don't have to...

Just look up the middle - Navarro, Bartlett, Aki and Upton vs. Varitek, Lowrie, Pedroia and Ellsbury??? No contest... The plays that get the Red Sox on Sportscenter are ROUTINE plays in Tampa...
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Anonymous Fanatic #3
393 days ago
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The Rays had the better defense. They converted more balls put into outs than any other team in baseball. That is what matters, as FP does not account for balls players do not get to. They have the better D, because their range, as a group, is excellent. Upton is a stud in center, Crawford is great in left and when Gross is playing, they have perhaps the best defensive outfield in the majors.

Bartlett has tremendous range, so while he makes a lot of errors, he gets to more balls and has more chances. Aki has made a flawless transition to second base and Longoria is longlorious at third base. Pena is an underrated defender, too.

Boston has a better offense, sure, and the edge perhaps in SP. But the Rays have a better D and I would argue a better bullpen, though Papelbon is the better ninth-inning guy. Anything can happen in seven games, but I like the Rays' chances.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
393 days ago
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Sounds like you need to ArmchairUP! We never get tired of people who know what they're talking about around here!!! Joining is easy and you'll need other sports to talk about after the Rays win the World Series....
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JuTMSY4Legend
393 days ago
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Look at this series I'm not sure you can rank Longoria ahead of Youkilis... Look, I like Longoria and I think Youkilis is a douche...but using "upside" as a rationale to suggest Longoria will be better than Youkilis is kinda weak...
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
393 days ago
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Cueballis is a better first baseman than third baseman. Youk is definitely a 10 at first but he's not a better third baseman than Longlorious.

Longoria is the best third baseman in the game. Right now. And his ALDS proved that the pressure of the "bigger stage" means little to him.

Sure, Youk is a potent bat... AT FENWAY. But on the road his AVG drops 27 points and loses almost 30 rbi... even his OBP is lower on the road. People sometimes forget that Fenway crimps your HR totals but seriously boosts your average - yet Youk hit more HR at Fenway! When all factors are even, (Youkilis had 621 PA, Longoria 371) Longoria is a much better player.

Meanwhile Longo's average is FORTY points lower at home than on the road - .293 Road- .253 Home- and having seen enough of him in person, I can definitely state that he has the power to hit it out of ANY park not named Yellowstone.

And yes, Evan will only get better - he just turned 23 a couple days ago.

Nowhere do I ever use the word "upside" - unless it's "I'll smack you upside your head"
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
393 days ago
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Crap, I quoted Longo's PA wrong - 508, not 371... 371 was his PA against Righties, oops!
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JuTMSY4Legend
393 days ago
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not quoting you..."upside" is just a word invented by ESPN to make a player seem worthy of a jersey purchase... I was referring to this: "...best young third baseman in the game and might be an MVP several times before his career is over."
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KelsdadAll-Star
393 days ago
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They didn't convert more balls into outs, they converted a higher percentage. While defensive efficiency is a better stat than range factor because it's a team rating, it is still seriously flawed.
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KelsdadAll-Star
393 days ago
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The Red Sox got Lowell in part because Youkilis was never going to be much better than an average third baseman. Longoria is heads and shoulders better than Youk at third, and is, in my meaningless opinion anyway, the best overall defensive third baseman in baseball...except for maybe Scott Rolen, when he plays.
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JuTMSY4Legend
393 days ago
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I think you guys are severely underrating Youkilis's skills at third...
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KelsdadAll-Star
393 days ago
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I've been around the minor leagues a long time, longer than you've been alive, probably, and it takes alot to impress me.

I've seen first ballot Hall of Famers hit .250 in Double A, I've seen future Hall of Famers pretty much begin their careers as no names in the AFL, and I've seen guys hyped as superstars who never even made it.

The first time I saw Longoria, I knew I was seeing someone who would be special. He hit a foul ball and I was so impressed by it I jumped up like it had gone 500 feet, and ask Manny, because he was sitting next to me.

I'm excited the Rays are in the postseason, and the main reason why is now everybody can see for themselves what we've been saying here for a year, Longoria is that good. He's a Rodriguez/Pujols/Griffey Jr. type, a once in a generation player.

Pay attention, because he's that special.
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JuTMSY4Legend
393 days ago
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I'm not arguing how good he can or will be...

But they're playing today...not next season or 10 seasons from now...its today...and if you stack them up today, its pointless to reference how good a guy can be...

In unrelated news:

1) alot heh, i'm totally going to make fun of you for bolding that...because "alot" isn't a word..."a lot" is two words (I had an english teacher who hated it passionately...so I see it all the time now)

2) I enjoyed your reference of once in a generation players who all appear to be playing right now...
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
393 days ago
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Longoria IS that good. I knew he was good the first time I saw him college. I thought he was awesome when I saw him play in person last fall and what he has done in the bigs this year has surpassed even my delirious expectations. The Rays knew how good he is which is why they signed him to a longterm deal 6 games into his MLB career. And it's not just his ability... he was BORN to be a great baseball player. He has an awesome personality, he handles the media with charm and he genuinely has good character. He is unflappable. He knows no pressure on the baseball field because it is his home.

I think you're overrating Cueballis at third for two reasons - the majority of his career errors came at third despite playing first base THREE TIMES as much - many of his errors were throwing errors, and 2) if he's such a good third baseman, why doesn't Lowell play first?

He's more than servicable, he's definitely above average. Longoria is simply amazing, he makes plays I've only seen Mike Schmidt and Scott Rolen make (good call, KD) and he's headed for a long storybook career.
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JuTMSY4Legend
393 days ago
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I'm sure he's gonna be good guys, that's fine

then again, this is coming from a guy who picked the Mariners to win the AL West and the Reds to win the NL Pennant

and a guy who writes an annual column about how wrong he is each year...
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
393 days ago
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I only write the article about things I'm wrong about (actually read them sometime because they're drenched with sarcasm as filler) because writing an article about what I'm right about would be TOO long - yes, too long even for me... I guarantee you that the Red Sox pitch more carefully to Longoria than any other player on the Rays. Guarantee.
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KelsdadAll-Star
393 days ago
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Making predictions are fun, there is no skill involved. Like playing fantasy sports, buying lottery tickets, anticipating the next hot stock, picking the Rays to win the division....
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
392 days ago
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"Making predictions are fun, there is no skill involved" Sports Shaman's methods disagree with that notion. There is DEFINITELY a skill to what that guy does...
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Anonymous Fanatic #5
393 days ago
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Boston is so experienced think they are too much BOSTON in 6 games. Get your free sports picks daily @ http://www.C...ee-picks.cfm
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
393 days ago
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Rest easy, AGMites... I WON'T be commenting on the site during the game tonight.
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RomiezzoLegend
392 days ago
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I wouldn't if I were you either (or any other Rays or Sawx fan). We'll probably be enjoying it as much as possible. ;)
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Anonymous Fanatic #2
391 days ago
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Probably insignificant, all things considered, but Hinske is actually not on the roster for this series. He was taken off and replaced by a pitcher. Can't remember who. Though I think it is a close series, as we saw last night, and I look forward to it. I really hope the Rays (whom I've taken to calling the Exstros because of former Astros Wheeler, Miller, Howell, Zobrist, Hickey and Hunsicker AND Houstinites Crawford and Kazmir) can pull it out. I'm kind of tired of Sawx Nation at this point.
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ASwaffAll-American
391 days ago
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This was also me.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
391 days ago
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Howell was never an Astro, he came from KC.

And I already addressed Hinske getting replaced by Edwin Jackson above - that happened the day after I wrote this - as did Mike Timlin for Gil Velazquez.

I'm very thorough with these things... Nice to see you back ASwaff, maybe you can remember how to log in? =)
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
391 days ago
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Howell did go to UT, maybe that's where you remember him from?
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ASwaffAll-American
391 days ago
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Jaja...I didn't forget HOW, I just forgot that I don't have it set to remember me when I log in. No, I DO remember Howell from UT, but that's not where my confusion came from. I confused him with Jack Howell, who played with the Astros ages ago. lol...he wasn't even a pitcher. Guess I got on a roll and just forgot what I was talking about.  :)
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