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20080618 Manny Stiles' Sportsune Piñata

by Manny Stiles
created June 18, 2008, last edited February 10, 2009
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Intro:

Welcome to Manny Stiles ' Daily Weekday Column:

"Sportsune Piñata" – A chance to bang on your drum with your keyboard.

Awwww... If the answer to every one of your questions was yes, would life be more enjoyable for you? (in sports)
Awwww... If the answer to every one of your questions was yes, would life be more enjoyable for you? (in sports)


Half a 'cookie today. Take your best swing at the pinata...

Sportsune Piñata

It's your turn to take a whack at a whackjob!

Make your complaints about and suggestions for the Sportsune Cookie's format. Any parts you'd like to see eliminated? Do you even read the in-between crap? Is it too long? Too short? Not medium enough? Let your font be loud!

It's called "the piñata" today because that what talking about the NBA Finals will be beaten like

Let the comments fly! Beat it and the sweet, sugary crap will come out!


Good For You

Congrats to the players on the Boston Celtics, they earned their right to party and when the occasion calls for it, shove their Championship Rings in Charles Barkley's face.

KG - you didn't need it in my book, but I'm glad you got it so people can shut up about it. You too, Paul Pierce and Ray Allen.

You're all likable guys. I hope you enjoy this for years to come.

And to the Boston fans: The Patriots lost. The End.


One thing you can count on... all of your Championship titles are in the past if this is where your string of titles ends...

Ominous!


Pre-emptive Maneuvers

  • WNBA, Midwest Bias, a collaboration or two and other stilistic special reports coming soon! Prepare adequately.
  • I was really busy tonight so forgive the trimmed length of this version of the 'Cookie, which will return with a more polished and fine tuned attitude.
  • I won't gloat too much about Sports Augury's recent scare-the-fack-outta-you ability to be remarkable accurate. Not yet, anyway! (cough, cough 4-0, cough cough, Ray Allen as the Prince of Wands, cough cough)
  • Nearly forgot to mention; family pet Shrimpadamus died this past week... and the Pats lost every game since his final prediction. He was pretty old for that species when he passed.

After his passing away, he was thoroughly enjoyed by other scavenging inhabitants of his home tank.


Post-emptive maneuvers

Handling Willie Properly - Maybe you got it all wrong about Willie Randolph's firing?

(I made this originally as a comment, but I own it and no one was going to read the article it was posted on, so...)

Maybe, just maybe he was doing Willie a favor?
Maybe Willie had tickets to a taping of the Jay Leno show?
Maybe Willie wanted to join Joe Torre for dinner to try and get a job with him?
Maybe Omar knows that Willie really, really like avocados?
Maybe Willie was caught banging Mrs Wilpon?
Maybe Willie had a hookup for some blow in West Hollywood that the team needed for the series?
Maybe Willie ASKED to get fired in Orange County so he could say..."I just got fired from the Mets, but I'm going to Disneyland!!!"

We'll never know the real truth - Just saying, maybe Omar was the good guy here...


Yeah, remember that one time? - The Pats lost.


Cooler than the other side of the pillow - He is a cliché himself, but Stuart Scott's initial "hook" that took off before "Booyah!" is still a pretty good one... that's all. Stu is a tolerable brand of annoying. But just barely. He's painful on Stump the Schwab, though...


I thought I would - I really thought I would hate Jon Barry with a microphone, but he's not entirely bad!


Don't forget - Make suggestions using your "alternate User IDs" - sure, all eight of them if you want! Or even go anon if you want to air your grievances anonymously.


The NASFL Playoff Ratio figures to return to the mean mighty soon - Hey, Boston, the only place you can go from the top is down...

Media Rant

<a player runs off the court as the buzzer sounds and he has just won his first championship>

Reporter (with microphone): “Hey, can you tell us a good sound byte and then you know write my article for me so I don’t have to do shit, OK?”

Player (puzzled): Oh, you mean “As the game ended, what was running though my mind out there?”


Ok, if I was credentialed for this game and (of course) would ask at least one strange question to each player at the podium. But for Kevin Garnett I would have asked him this question...

Media relations guy points to Manny Stiles - "Manny, from Armchairgm.com.."

Stiles: Hey Kev, can you give us just one solid roar? What's the roar like after you beat up that bully? Come on, rip one off right here, let it out. Raaaar! Come on! What does an NBA championship mean to you - can I get the answer in a roar, please? Raaar!"


See the difference?


WTMF Sports

Channel Manny Presents:

W.T.M.F. Sports with your host, Manny Stiles!

Brought to you by Uncle Fancypants' One Car Parades!

"If you can find a lamer one car parade you still ain't getting your money back!"


Reporting on Wednesday, June 18th... Manny Stiles:

MS - "... but first, our top story today..."


<interference> picture blacks out <interference/>

A voice: "Station Identification Channel. W.T.M.F. Whut Tha Muff Fack Network; Channel 694 on your non-dialable dial and on the spiderless web at http://www.armchairgm.com way, way too much"


<jingle/themish music>

Several female voices softly, in harmony: "W....T....M.....F-----fffff!"

<fade to black/>


Enter from left and fade from white. A man walking, begins to speak:

"Hi, I'm pseudo celebrity blogger and world class beer chugger, Manny Stiles. I'm not only a fan of WTMF and Manny Stiles' Hate Club President I know what the muff fack this is all about.

The staff, the sponsors and myself here at WTMF are committed to bringing you high class, lowbrow entertainment and mind-numbingly strange and otherwise indescribable programming and stories in your regularly scheduled Sportsune Cookie. So we request of you, the readers to send your wild and crazy links to be chosen by the writing staff to be expounded upon.

Essentially, we are asking you to add the links to the craziest, awesomest and nuttiest, oddest or strangest and preferably some things that fit ALL the categories and add them to the links on the front page... it's easy. So we can eliminate the stupid worthless segment and replace it with something more useful - perhaps "nothing"?

Make your comments and make you font be heard (by reader's inner voices)

Now we return you to "My Inner Hunter S.", already in progress...

<switches to show/>

<a dart of electricity fades in slow motion/>

< the show appears/>


<a song plays/> time is lost... we don't know who we are...


Voice off screen: "The theory of Ockham's razor says..."


An elderly man appears: "Whoever holds the straw last probably finished the cocaine."

Exactly... exactly... exaaaaactlly lly lly lly lly lly lly lly lly

<a record on a turntable scratches to a stop>


The mirror: "Whoever is guilty and looks into me will see the face of the person who finished it."

<an inner voice that sounds like it's speaking on the exterior>

I grab the mirror and clutch it's cold cruel, plastic, inanimate oneness with the magic of perception. It was a portal through space and time. Like Dorian Gray's painting but carrying the threat of 7 years of bad luck and the curse of showing you things you won't want to see in seven years if it survi...

  • click!


Ever wonder?

You haven't? Good. It's bad for you, it only gets you into trouble anyway.


The Adventures of ManRays

Today's "Ray of the Day" is...

DAY OFF

It's nice having 4 off days in a row in the middle of the season. I can't believe that games against the Cubs count in the actual standings.


or...


the guys responsible for the final nail in the coffin, maybe?


I'll keep in here what I had yesterday. Not because I'm superstitious, but because it's true.

I would talk some smack, but they're the Cubs. What's the point?

Or like I always say... "Why talk about the Cubs when you could talk about actual baseball?'


Go Rays!


10

It's like the lottery. It builds up and keeps going until someone wins. Except instead of millions of dollars, and everyone gets to call you "useless trivia dork" (just like they called me my first day of school).

I'm keeping it up until someone guesses what they all have in common. It's really stupid, but that's why it's fun.

Actually if no one gets it today, or as people who make stuff out of nothing like to call it, a "streak" of two days, I'll put up TEN more people that share the same thing in common with these first ten!!! Because there are plenty more!

1 – Joe DiMaggio
2 - Dan Marino
3 - Todd Helton
4 - Tony Dorsett
5 - Brett Favre
6 - Tom Landry
7 - Rebecca Lobo
8 - Jesse Owens
9 - Pat Summitt
10 – Jim Thorpe

Yes, you could say I mailing it in today... but I have reasons.

A Picture is worth 1000 and 406 Stolen Bases

Rickey Nelson Henley Henderson


A lot of people rip Rickey Henderson but he was the Pete Rose of the 80's. Every era has one. The surly "chickensugar" - from the very French term 'Couque-Sucre' - every generation. Gets on base; wreaks proverbial havoc. Plays really hard and just finds a way to score runs...

Henderson put up some serious numbers. I don't think he'll ever get fully understood because people can't see him for being "Rickey" whom he is himself.

Plus I always loved that he was a rare freak non-pitcher that threw lefty but batted righty.

(Yes, I see you Mark Carreon!)


Isn't time for a return of Rickey? I think he should enter AGM's hot new reality show...


Rickey-Henderson-939-Stolen-Bases-1991-Photograph-C10103677.jpeg

rickeyhendersonrun.JPG

He lives in the second person, he deserves two pics!

Dr. Commento Answers the Questions

ATQ – ATQ is on hiatus until further notice. If you suggestions or comments about things you'd like to see or places you'd like to see things shoved, leave a comment.

Leave it "Anon" if you wanna be a pussy about it. I'm just kidding. Not all Anons are pussies. But each and every banned AGM User definitely is!


Strike a Prose - They don't call me Jus'toine Stile for a good reason

Man on a Mission

Man on a mission
wishing to bo on a lake in Michigan
fishing again

Yea, this cruel fate denies me for the moment
tests and tries me
attempts to beguile me
bu I ain't bending
the tiem I could be spending
beating myself up
for mistakes of the past
not all memories are forever
but the good ones always find a way to last
and as these troubles pass
or at least as I hope they subside
I clutch my faith
knowing my Creator and I share sides
and while I'm flowing against time
and shake my fist at it all
my will stands strong
and my resolve stands tall
it's ain't GOTTA happen. It's GONNA happen.
and we'll be on the lake,
having a good time, laughing
I know it

Man on a mission
wishing to beo on a lake in Michigan
fishing again
not a matter of "if" , it's a matter of "when"

Fishing again, fishing again...



Wanna crack open another Sportsune Cookie?
Sportsune Cookie 20090511
v 14 votes c 32 comments
Sportsune Cookie 20090508
v 12 votes c 15 comments
Sportsune Cookie 20090507
v 13 votes c 16 comments
Sportsune Cookie 20090506
v 13 votes c 21 comments
Sportsune Cookie 20090505
v 14 votes c 22 comments


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CheezerAll-Star
525 days ago
Score 4+-
Manny?

I mean this...

Get some sleep.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
525 days ago
Score 2+-
I said I'm going to a WNBA game, isn't that enough? (buh-dum-pum)


Yeah... prepare for the fervent and staunch support of women in the next 24-48 hours!


See, unlike the lame-o's who make fun of the WNBA, I actually like to look at women.


As for actual sleep? It's far too overrated. Besides, with the way I dream, I actually get more rest when I'm awake!
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JuTMSY4Legend
525 days ago
Score 7+-
Ever wonder...actually yes

about once a season, usually when things are clicking for one of my favorite teams, I think how awesome it would be once they clinched...like how i would react, what I would do and what would I even think of it

would I be baffled? Confused? Stunned? Happy?, etc etc

I wonder what I would do the next day and how I would react? Would I be a conceited prick, gloating all day or reserved and suck it all in...would I become the epitome of what I've grown to love?

I have a standing rule with my boss, should some Philadelphia team win a championship, I'm guaranteed one day off...because I'd be on a flight to Philly the following day for the parade.

He says he's not worried (seems reasonable at this point)

Point is, yeah, I wonder about it a lot...and I'd say its probably better this way...
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Falcon02520Legend
525 days ago
Score 6+-
At this point, I feel if Philadelphia won a major sports title, nobody would wake up the next morning... because the Apocalypse would have occurred...
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JuTMSY4Legend
525 days ago
Score 6+-
Its just dumb luck right?

at some point, we've got to turn around and see all the teams hoisting trophies...right?

What's real weird is that I've become so jaded (my dad's this way already), so cynical that I almost hope they lose in the end...if they won, what would be the point?

Weird I know...I can only imagine
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Falcon02520Legend
525 days ago
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Isn't there an article or a comment somewhere about how Philly fans just expect to lose? I'd have to agree, the city wouldn't know what to do if it won. Would there be a anarchy in the streets? Would nothing change? How does someone celebrate? All that is guarenteed to happen is that the city will be shut down for the next day, because Broad Street will be PACKED!!!
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JuTMSY4Legend
525 days ago
Score 5+-
hoefully not the airport...because I'm flying in...
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
525 days ago
Score 3+-
I have the feeling that the nexy Philly championship is NOT that far off... and that it won't be as exciting a team as everyone is hoping for... like the fun squads - '93 Phillies or Charles' Sixers, Gang Green, or the Broad St. Bullies. It'll be a team that sneaks their way into a title and the town will have to fake some enthusiasm because of the disbelief... almost a letdown and easing than an explosion of relief.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
525 days ago
Score 3+-
I think I'd fly in too, though. I haven't personally run out into Broad St and stopped traffic to party since '92 when the Owls made the Elite 8!!!
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Falcon02520Legend
525 days ago
Score 7+-
Don't you mean "bang on your keyboard like a drum?"

Candy is suppose to come out, not cookies...

EXPAND THE ANSWER/QUESTION/QUOTE SECTION!!! Damn, ya here that? Sorry, I'm pushing down on the keys as hard as possible to try and make some noise...

I am happy for KG, Allen, and Pierce. I am upset that this happened with the Celtics. I am officially temporarily done with the NBA. Basketball is great but I can't help but plead conspiracy. I need a break (more than just the off-season)...

One last thought on the association, Ray Allen has the prettiest jumper I've ever seen...

Midwest Bias? Just like East Virginia and Atlantis...

Maybe Willie just lost control of his team and couldn't get them to preform?

I remember many times in which the Patriots lost...

I only have seven alternate User IDs. What am I suppose to do?

I wonder how many people actually read long ass comments not made by Dr. Commento...

If you are still reading this comment, make a reply below and I'll automatically plus it (disclaimer: unless you say something entirely entirely too stupid)...

W T M F Stiles?

Wondering and thinking are too different operations...

sCrubs lost. The first of many they will against the Rays...

Top Ten Guess: Ten people who make more money than I do...

Who would you say is this generation's Rose/Henderson?

Hiatus?!?!?! Bull Spit...

Suggestion: I'd like to shove something into Carmella DeCesare...

I didn't leave the suggestion as an anon because it is about pussy, not being a pussy...

Over/under two people read this whole comment?
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JuTMSY4Legend
525 days ago
Score 5+-
Who would you say is this generation's Rose/Henderson?

That's a good question...I guess Reyes is Henderson...but I liked Rickey more...

Rose...that's a toughy...the guy certainly put it all out there...but he was also an asshole...
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JuTMSY4Legend
525 days ago
Score 5+-
btw falc...I was an idiot while attempting to explain the effectiveness factor in my comments article

It is a measure of useless comments...useless being defined as non-plussed (heh...or nonplussed)

Anyways, a score of 0 would mean that on average, every comment you make gets plussed once...(and yeah, there's a simplier way to caluclate it)...but it also compensates, so if you land a haymaker (more than 1 plus) you can recover from some bad comments...if a comment is minused, its the equivilent of making another useless comment...

Anything above 0, suggests you get more plusses than you make comments, less than 0 less plusses than comments...

I think that factor is more succinct in explaining who is the best commenter
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Falcon02520Legend
525 days ago
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I figured most of that. What exactly are you saying right now because I am a little confused?
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JuTMSY4Legend
525 days ago
Score 4+-
haha...

ok a score of 0 means that on average each of your comments gets one plus

less than 0 means you make more comments than plusses

more than 0 means more plusses than comments...
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Falcon02520Legend
525 days ago
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So on average my comments get 3.7 pluses per comment and that this current conversation would actually be hurting my average?
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JuTMSY4Legend
525 days ago
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no...

Tmil's got the highest with a 1.55, he averages (give or take) 1.5 plusses per comments

and yes its hurting your average...

Falcon, you scored a 3.7 in effectiveness

You comment (on average) almost 14 (13.77) times a day...and you receive almost 18 plusses (17.47)...hence your effectiveness score of 3.7...
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Falcon02520Legend
525 days ago
Score 4+-
NOW I get it... apparently I'm not as good at math as I thought...
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J-DawgVarsity Captain
525 days ago
Score 4+-
I vote over. JuT read it and I read it, so now we just need one more...
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Falcon02520Legend
525 days ago
Score 4+-
Well it will be over then because Stiles will read it because he likes feedback on his articles; espically comments that are almost as long as some of his own comments...
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Tej8722JV Squad
525 days ago
Score 4+-
As a MN guy, I can't help but also be happy for KG. How much does McHale get paid now that the Celtics won? Also, Rickey is the only one, there can be no other Rickey.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
525 days ago
Score 3+-
I think Craig Biggio was the last Rose. Not sure who will work their way to replace him. Chase Utley has too much class. Reyes is the New Rafael Furcal and Ichiro has the getting on base thing down, but he lacks the grit when he's not talking about the Joy of Cleveland.
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KelsdadAll-Star
525 days ago
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I read it too.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
525 days ago
Score 1+-
I may or may not have pretended to read it...
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
525 days ago
Score 0+-
About 10, another hint: Look at a street map.
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SSreportersLegend
525 days ago
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Kobe Bryant/MJ comparison was just put to bed for good last night. He had a woeful series and he will NEVER ever be better than Jordan after this performance.


Now, Kobe Bryant getting 100% of the blame from some people like Sportsline's Gregg Doyel, is absolute ludicrous. I don't care that he was the MVP, look at the entire playoffs from Boston, only LeBron James in game 7 of their series beat up on that Celtics defense, and even so he failed to make the big shots down the stretch to keep his team in it. Give credit to the Celtics defense instead of blaming Kobe, because the entire Lakers team blew up right in front of us.


Just wondering, if Kobe Bryant is 100% to blame for this loss, who was responsible for the Lakers soaring to the Finals without going to a 7th game?


The media has made it so Kobe can't win. If he gets his teammates involved, then he's not being a team leader and he's not being aggressive. If he goes for 45 and shoots 14-29, then he is shooting too much and not trusting his teammates. The stat line for him has to be 40 points, 10 rebounds, 15 assists, 4 blocks, 4 steals, or else he has an off game. Chris Paul, LeBron James, even Michael Jordan himself couldn't possibly get past them.


Now, about those teammates of Kobe's. You don't get the assist if your teammate doesn't make the shot, and that was the case the entire series for the Lakers. Sasha Vujacic, Lamar Odom, Pau Gasol, they all couldn't hit the broad side of a barn and yet Kobe is getting the blame? What the heck is he supposed to do? If he is not getting past the Celtics defense, then someone else has to step up to the plate and quite frankly NO ONE did for them.


Manny, I don't care if Pau Gasol is a world champion in international play, he is overrated, not saying he is bad, just saying he is overrated. I thought Pau was extremely good for the first few series, and then as soon as I saw Tim Duncan cut him apart in the conference finals I knew the Lakers were dead. He is too soft, he cannot defend, and even when he has a height advantage, which in last night's case he had over Paul Pierce, he went for the turnaround fadeaway! Kendrick Perkins and Leon Powe, two relatively inexperienced centers, ripped him up! I know I know, if the Lakers don't have him they don't make it to the Finals. Yes, but the Lakers would've had Kwame Brown starting, I'd prefer to lure Vlade Divac out of retirement than to see Brown playing wouldn't you? The only way I see him being a fit is if they make Gasol a forward and Bynum the starting center.


Lamar Odom is just about the worst Lakers starter on there. He doesn't show up on the road, his drives to the basket draw fouls but most of the time he's reckless and it costs them offensive fouls or some other form of a turnover. Inconsistent describes him the best.


The Lakers have an offense that sees Kobe Bryant as the only really good player on there, the Celtics have the Boston Three Party, it's 3 vs. 1. If Bryant had just one, ONE competent, consistent teammate, the Lakers would probably play the Celtics much better, and who knows, maybe win it all. In the glory days, it was Shaq and Kobe with a SUPPORTING CAST. Rick Fox, Robert Horry, Brian Shaw, Derek Fisher. This year you have Sasha Vujacic shooting as if the world will crash tomorrow. This supporting case is a joke sadly, and they'll have to do a whole lot better to get a veteran bench player like the Celtics did with James Posey and Sam Cassell.


Next up, Phil Jackson needs to take his lumps. Frankly I don't care if he purposefully tried to throw this series for the sake of Kobe losing, he is not, and will NEVER be better than Red Auerbach. Phil is a great coach, one of the best we've ever seen, but sadly when his supposed star is not shining, his teams are dead. Remember when Michael Jordan retired the first time? In those 2 years the Bulls never even made it to the NBA Finals. Even when he had that dream lineup in 2004, The Pistons shut down everyone not named Shaq, they let Shaq have his dunks and lay-ups for good reason, they shut down Fisher and Bryant and Payton.


He doesn't make any big adjustments, and the Celtics figured him out because of his "Rinse, Wash, Repeat" approach to every single game this series. Kobe Bryant was dancing his way into the paint and scoring at will in the playoffs, the Celtics took that away and he was reduced to being a jump shooter or a distributor. When Bryant was on the bench the Lakers bench was much better than the Spurs' bench and the Jazz's bench and the Nuggets' bench, but not the Celtics. He doesn't have a true bruising big man anymore, he doesn't have a spot up shooter like he did in Chicago, he has Lamar Odom and Pau Gasol pretending to play defense while shooting bricks offensively. In Game 4, he thought that the Lakers were going to be alright when they blew that 24 point lead, and look what happened! His lineups were often weird the last 2 games, why was Chris Mihm playing in game 5 at all? Ronny Turiaf is miles better than Mihm yet he gets a nod? He let Gasol face Garnett instead of Perkins. Kobe Bryant was guarding Rajon Rondo, who doesn't shoot all that well, and the defensively challenged Vladimir Radmanovic and Sasha Vujacic were left to "guard" Ray Allen and Paul Pierce. Inexcusable, and he had no response to the pick and rolls of Boston either or screens or switches at all. He was the only person in the world who thought his little plan was still working.


Lastly, he got outcoached BADLY, as in schooled, by Doc Rivers. I will give full credit to Doc Rivers for making sure the Celtics never quit and they didn't relax this time around after nearly blowing that 24 point lead in game 2. He made better adjustments, he exploited the Lakers big weakness and that's in the paint. He had the bigger, and better men in the paint. Rivers never made it out of the first round with Orlando nor Boston, and this year he ends up winning every series.


Now for the Celtics, honestly, in the first few rounds I really didn't think they were even going to beat Detroit. They lost game 2 deservedly at home and had to win on the road. Look at the result, they ended up pounding the Pistons in game 3, and rallied past them in game 6 to go to the Finals. They were a different team on the road and I think that win boosted their morale and they effectively clinched the title by game 4.


Their defense would've shut down a team like the Suns or the Hornets or any team with a high octane offense considering they shut down the Lakers completely. How many times did they allow 100 points in the playoffs? Out of 26 games, a total of 7 times, and they won 2 of them anyway.


Kendrick Perkins just being there last night stifled Pau Gasol automatically. Although he didn't have a good offensive series, he fought for the offensive rebounds, he forced Pau Gasol to change his shot or pass into traffic many times.


What about Rajon Rondo? I know I've bashed him for being a reckless player, but he played the game of his life. No one in their right mind should get 6 steals with such ease. He played the role of Derek Fisher for the C's, only better. No one of his size should be getting 8 rebounds over the tall guys like Lamar Odom and Pau Gasol, but then again, those guys are pretty much lazy as long as there are players on the opposing team around them to try and box them out.


James Posey anyone? He was the big reason that the Celtics, in their 2 losses and in their comeback win, kept themselves in the game with his three point shooting and brilliant defense on Kobe Bryant. I really think Posey did a better job defending Bryant than Pierce did.


PJ Brown deserves the 8th man of the playoffs award if Gordon Giricek is the 8th Man of the Regular Season. He was the underrated force in the key for his team. The 38 year old was outhustling the 20 somethings of Gasol and Odom. He was getting the blocked shots on Bryant and causing turnovers when the benches took part in the 2nd quarter.


And of course, the Boston Three Party, The Big Three, The NBA Champions Triple Threat, whatever you want to call them. When one player didn't show up like Pierce last night, Ray Allen and Kevin Garnett did. That's the big difference that separates the Lakers from the Celtics. When Kobe is off, the Lakers are dead. If Allen struggle and Garnett struggles, Pierce will have a big game and so on. It's hard to stop one so good luck stopping all of them. Garnett actually didn't have one of his better performances in this series save for game 6, but these guys wouldn't miss. The ball rotation was flawless, Ray Allen was parked for three, Paul Pierce was driving and scoring at will, Garnett's jump shot and inside presence was there, this is a dynasty we're looking at guys, the Celtics will win 2 or 3 more before these guys call it quits.


Congratulations Boston, the NBA Champions of 2007-2008.
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SSreportersLegend
525 days ago
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Wow that was a long comment.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
525 days ago
Score 2+-
The Celtics will not win another championship.

SSR, you need to live through these things a few times and you'll see right through the hype. It was a one time deal.

First, they're all getting old and one (or more) WILL break down soon. They are in the same boat that Miami was in after 2006.

Second. Winning will neccessitate player movement. Who is coming back next year? They won't have help in the draft, either.

This is the NBA. Turnover happens fast and veterans fade away before you notice.


I really do like how you try to defend the Lakers and say they lost instead of giving credit to the actual winners for being clearly a better team.

(Turn the ESPN off and take a walk every so often. You'll be amazed at what happens when you get a chance to make up your own mind!)


Yeah... what about Sports Augury though???

The only parts that were off were where I doubted it. Sports Shaman is 3-0 and Augury is 4-0...
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
525 days ago
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And you know what else...

BOSTON SHOULD HAVE WON!

If they lost to this Lakers team, they would have been ridiculed FOR-EVER.

And these Lakers would have easily been one of the weakest championship teams ever.

I don't forsee the Lakers getting back for a while, either. It was a perfect storm for them... A TON of West teams will be MUCH better next year and the big moves are still coming soon.

Anyone wanna start the clock on Kobe asking to get moved? 5... 4... 3...
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SSreportersLegend
525 days ago
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The Spurs were supposedly the old team as well yet they won it in 2005 and 2007.


They are getting old, but I think Powe and Perkins can develop into all-stars. If Rondo would stop hesitating as far as when to shoot and when to pass then he can be good. The young talent for the Celtics isn't bad, and The Big 3 still have 3 or 4 more years left in them.


I know the Celtics were a better team, I'm not defending the Lakers as much as I'm ripping into them for barely being competitive at times in this series.


I forgot to mention the collapses in that comment. As far as blowing leads for the Lakers , that has been well documented by me (copied and pasted from my website):


Western Conference Semifinals

  • Game 1: Lakers up 68-49 over the Utah Jazz at the 7:33 mark of the 3rd quarter. At the 4:44 mark of the 4th quarter, that lead was sliced to 91-87 Lakers, but Utah would still lose 109-98. That’s near collapse #1.
  • Game 6: Lakers up 62-43 at halftime in Utah. Deron Williams and Mehmet Okur clank on their game-tying threes and the Lakers survive 108-105. That’s near collapse #2.


Western Conference Finals

  • Game 4: Lakers stun the Spurs with a 22-8 start in their building. The Spurs would fight back and stay within touching distance of the lead but were unable to make that move. Now it’s 93-86 with just :43 to go. You know the rest, the Lakers stop making, the Spurs lose on a controversial non-call. That’s #3.



NBA Finals


  • Game 3: Lakers lead by as many as 11 in the 2nd quarter before the gap is closed to 6 at halftime. They lose the lead and trail by 5 in the 3rd quarter, before Kobe Bryant bails them out and they beat the Celtics 87-81. Near collapse #4.
  • Game 4: It’s 35-14 after the 1st quarter, the lead swells to 24 but the Celtics begin to chip away. In the 4th quarter, Eddie House drains a jumper and the Celts take their first lead of the game, and win 97-91. Collapse #1, and their 5th instance of seeing a big lead cut down to within 4 points.


  • Game 5: Lakers take a 43-24 lead in the 2nd quarter, Celtics cut it to 55-52 by halftime and eventually take the lead in the 3rd. Lakers regain that lead and are up 84-72 in the 4th after a Lamar Odom (!) three. It’s 92-91 all of a sudden, but the Lakers survive 103-98.


They supposedly didn't have much in this past draft department either Manny, one pick by the name of Glen Big Baby Davis.
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SSreportersLegend
525 days ago
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Whoa, I actually agree with you. I think I see a second Lakers collapse. Will they make the playoffs routinely? Probably. Will they win a title? Not with this bunch.


I'll raise your Kobe talk by one:


Phil Jackson will not come back. I think this is it for him, never before has a Phil Jackson team been humiliated by this much. I think his days are behind him.
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JuTMSY4Legend
525 days ago
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the secret to long comments, guys, is to also make them worth reading... sorry
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Falcon02520Legend
525 days ago
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True dat JuT, true dat...
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
525 days ago
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I got to "I think Powe and Perkins can develop into all-stars" before I gave up...
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JuTMSY4Legend
525 days ago
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wow...you're a better man than me...i got to:

SSreportersHall of Famer

1 hour 7 minutes ago
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
525 days ago
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I'm a speed reader. I often get a decent way into things before I realize that I didn't want to read it! Well played, JuT!
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KelsdadAll-Star
525 days ago
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"Frankly I don't care if he purposefully tried to throw this series for the sake of Kobe losing," Huh?
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SSreportersLegend
525 days ago
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Those words came from a Mr. M Stiles, Kels.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
525 days ago
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"words came from a Mr. M Stiles", delightfully skewed by Mookie Sideline Reporter...

I said that Phil was trying to lose the series to teach Kobe a lesson. Clearly that was a joke I was making about Phil's "teacherly" ways and thier inability to cohesively share the team leadership.

I alos have an inside source that told me Phil was the guy who hurt Bynum to make sure he wouldn't return this season. Then when Kupchak trumped Phil and traded for Pau, Phil convinced him that growing a beard would make him better - Phil knew that Pau shaved through the entire World Champs in '06 and that's why he was so good.

Want me to make up more "proof"?
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KelsdadAll-Star
525 days ago
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"and will NEVER be better than Red Auerbach."

An assistant coach under Auerbach with the Celtics invented the triangle offense, which he used to win a gazillion championships. That assistant coach was Red Holzman, who went on to coach the Knicks to two championships, on which was a dorky forward named Phil Jackson. Phil Jackson, being the intellect he is, memorized the intricacies of the triangle, and re-invented it with the Bulls, taking a superstar and a handful of role players and turning them into a dynasty. He did the same thing with the Lakers, the key piece to the puzzle being Shaq, not Kobe.

Kobe by all accounts is a very intelligent human being. He is, from a basketball standpoint, dumber than a bag of shit. It's not Phil's fault the offense no longer works, it's the fault of one player who is too impatient and to selfish to make it work.
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SSreportersLegend
525 days ago
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Hey, remember those other 11 players on the Lakers? I think they are called his "teammates", how do they get a free pass here?
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
525 days ago
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I think I'd take Gasol, Radmanovic, Luke Walton and Odom over Horace Grant, Joe Klein, Scott Williams, Stacey King and Bill Wennington...

I thought Kobe was the MVP because he makes his teammates better? hmmm...


MJ made guys into winners. Kobe beats his teammates into submission and turns them into spectators while he pounds the rock into the wood before jacking up harder-than-they-need-to-be shots
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SSreportersLegend
525 days ago
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Gasol, Radmanovic, Walton, and Odom proudly put up the following totals in the NBA Finals:


Gasol - 33-62 from the field (which is his 2nd worst output of the series), a paltry 22-34 from the free throw line, 3 blocks, 3 steals, 13 turnovers, 61 rebounds, and 14.7 ppg.


Walton - 5-16, 3-4 from the line, 3 turnovers, 1 blocked shot, 6 rebounds, all in 66 minutes of game time.


Vladimir Radmanovic - 16-41, 10-26 from downtown, countless personal fouls....


Lamar Odom - Not even worth a mention.



And after the Utah series none of these guys showed up consistently. If that's who you prefer then the Bulls must have had Jordan, Pippen, Rodman, and that's it as far as somewhat decent starting players.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
525 days ago
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No, I was comparing them to the first Bulls triangle offense inspired run of three championships... thus the names of the guys I put on there... Please follow the bouncing ball...
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
525 days ago
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And instead of continuing to BITCH about how the Lakers lost, give the Celtics SOME credit. They were the far superior team.
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KelsdadAll-Star
525 days ago
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SS, you clearly don't understand how the triangle offense works, and what is required for it to work. The key is patience. Having a point guard who is willing to wait to get the ball into the right person's hands at the right time is paramount to its success. It took Michael a couple years to buy into it, but once he did, when he realized it would make him a legend and have rings up the yazoo, he went for it. Michael early in his career was like Kobe now, he had the mentality of the more I shoot the better we are.

Trust me, its not an easy concept to sell, individual one on one players believing in a team concept, but the proof is there, and has been for 20 years...it works.

What baffles me is why doesn't every team in the league run the triangle?
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SSreportersLegend
525 days ago
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Was Kobe Bryant not a part of the triangle offense during the Laker dynasty of 2000-02?


This is only his 3rd year with Phil and no Shaq, and 4th without Shaq, if the right personnel is there it will work again.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
525 days ago
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Clearly, there's no rationalizing with you using basic concepts of the game.
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KelsdadAll-Star
525 days ago
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"Was Kobe Bryant not a part of the triangle offense during the Laker dynasty of 2000-02"

Pay attention, dude. I said that, and that Shaq was the key. Take away the key, and you can't unlock the door (offense), can you?

This is only his 3rd year with Phil and no Shaq, and 4th without Shaq, if the right personnel is there it will work again.

Again, pay attention. The right personnel being Kobe. The Lakers brought in Derek Fisher specifically to run the triangle, and it didn't work, because Kobe always has to have the facking ball in his hand. You don't need to take 35 shots to score 40 points, Kobe for some reason is to thick headed to get the concept of less is more.
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LASportsblogAAA-er
525 days ago
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Is the 10 all people who have had a Street or City named after them?
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LASportsblogAAA-er
525 days ago
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I thought I was gonna spend this Cookie saying: Ya? Well how far did the Suns make it? Instead I just chuckled and said to myself: Man 18 and 1 is a funny combination of numbers.
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SSreportersLegend
525 days ago
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In Manny's world, they have captured a threepeat.


In the media's eyes, the Suns have won 5 in a row.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
524 days ago
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In my "world"? You're delusional if you're thinking that I'm delusional.
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