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20080610 Manny Stiles' Sportsune Cookie

by Manny Stiles
created June 10, 2008, last edited February 10, 2009
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Intro:

Welcome to Manny Stiles' Daily Column:

"Sportune Cookie" - 100% By Product.

People are often uncomfortable when you do what you want (in sports)
People are often uncomfortable when you do what you want (in sports)



Sportune Cookie

If your brain on the edge of a razor blade looks like a BB on a 4 lane highway, maybe you're a Red Sox or Yankees fan with an All-Star ballot in your hand

Ok, I just looked at the current tallies in this year's all-star voting.

EVERY SINGLE AL POSITION has a Red Sox player leading except for 3B - A-Rod and SS - Derek Jeter. (And don't get me started on how deserving those two are).

But seriously, Red Sox fans... Julio Lugie???? is 4th among Shortstops? Mike Blowell is SECOND behind A-Rod? DJ Drew is 11th and Coocoo Crispy is 13th in the outfield? Come on... If Kevin Cueballis and Dustin Spedroia are All-Star starters then what's the point? (Although since the game is in Yankee Stadium, it would be kinda funny)

I don't want to have to explain to my Grandkids one day that "yeah, it was bullship in 2008. First they facked the All-Star game voting up then the Presidential election, too"

It's so ridiculous that it's starting to make me think that fan voting has run it's course of usefulness. It worked when the fans made Wally World the first rookie All-Star starter in 1986 (the year of the rookie), but when Johnny Noarm and Melkdud are 9th and 10th in the OF voting, I think the evidence is mounting to scrap the system.

Democracy is a wondrful thing in theory, but it only works when people are educated enough to make an informed decision and each voter can have equal say across the board, meaning one vote each. Ballot stuffing a baseball All-Star game is about as pointless as a person's skill set can get. And these are the people rolling their BB brains down Razor's Edge Highway (BTW - it's a toll road)

Hopefully some logic will prevail before July. Otherwise it might very well be time to take the most useless event that pretends to mean something in sports and lend it some credence and let the players and coaches pick all the All-Stars.

Then again, that would mean Bud Selig has to "do something".

Yeah, I'm wasting valuable webspace aren't I?

Hmmm...

Do you ever wake up and think "Gee, I'm glad I'm not Aaron Rodgers"?

No? Then you and Brian Brohm have something in common!


Do you ever wake up and think "Gee I'm glad I'm not Shaun Alexander"?

Yes? Well, he's jealous of you!


Pre-emptive Maneuvers

Congrats to Ken Griffey Jr., but I'll save most of my hurrahs for when you get to 700. (yeah, I said it)

Even if you're innocent on both counts, you still got arrested twice in one month - Cedric Benson - get your head straightened out so we don't end up with another Leonard Little or Jim Leyritz on our hands, ok? Oh, and say "Hi!" to little old Mrs. Clark when you bag up her groceries for her...

Testy, One, Two - T.O., yes that T.O., not the "Real" T.O. is gonna get randomly tested for banned substances by the NFL mostly because he had "communication problems" with the NFL. Earth to NFL - 1) You have your own network's cameramen in this dude's grill just about everyday, how did he not get the message? 2) make sure you test him randomly for the "crazy" as well, and 3) With a $27 million extension he just signed, isn't it time to start testing Jerry Jones too?

Side to Side - Vinny Del Negro - thank you, thank you, thank you for taking the Bulls coaching job, for not taking the Suns job and mostly for ensuring I won't have to hear you as the color commentator on the radio for Suns games ANY MORE!!! You're a nice guy, you know your basketball, but you say the same freeking thing 80 times a game!!! If I hear "Move the ball from side to side" one more time, I'm gonna move my brain from side to side with a speeding freight train!

And by that I mean, "good luck"!


It helps when you're the GM's good friend - Speaking of guys who got coaching jobs and the Phoenix Suns, I'm putting Terry Porter's tenure clock at an even 100 games. I thought about it, they could have done worse (see:Vinny Del Negro) but they hired a guy who also happens to be a minority and that's commendable. Then again, non-hispanic white people are a minority in Arizona, too. (just saying, but it's true).

The part that cracks me up about the local news media covering his first press conference, they are all saying "he will bring toughness and hard-nosed defense to the Valley of the Sun" - yeah, because he also brought a magic wand that will somehow make this roster CAPABLE of such things... give me a break. The window is barely cracked open and that is only if tragic disaster happens to about 7 other teams in the Western COnference between now and this time next year.

Greg Oden smells like Ben Gay (the cream, not the guy) - It's a joke about how old he looks... Speaking of Western Conference... And how I'm growing weary of the Suns' owner's antics, is it time for me to start up the Portland Trailblazers bandwagon? Because I'm very much considering doing so...

Hibachi! Then again, Gilbert Arenas on the Los Angeles Clippers has an intriguing ring to it... you know, if they weren't the Clippers and all...

Media Rant

If they ever get the bright idea to clone journalists (G-D, PLEASE, PRETTY PLEASE NO!!!!), I hope they made sure to keep some of Jim McKay's DNA.

It's weird how often you forget about people until they're gone, but I never stopped remembering how really, really excellent he was!

I think the days where the journalists relay the story with imagery and finesse instead of stomping all over the story with persoanl agendas are gone...

I know Jim McKay would have made sure Belmont about the horse that won instead of about the horse who finished last.

Has there ever been more media fascination with a loser and total absence of recognizing the winner?

I miss your sensibility already Jim! This is the agony of defeat.


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Reporting on Tuesday, June 10th... Manny Stiles:

MS - "It's Eleven O'Clock, do you know where your pants are? But first, our top story today..."

Jacques Le Coq has nothing on Jean-Luc Grand Pierre. Yeah, the Toronto Maple Leafs are facked forever. Nothing says "we're a joke" more than a what-you-know-will-be-a-dumber-than-expected movie loosely based on your failings. At least Jessica Alba is a slight redeeming factor...


Ever wonder?

If the Earth spun the other direction would we all be engulfed in West Coast Bias right now?

Time zone differences can be a tough concept for most Eastern Time Zoners to grasp.


The Adventures of ManRays

Today's Ray of the Day is...

Dioner Navarro - what? You think that just because I'm the biggest male Longlorious fan and that he hit two bombs last night that I'm gonna ignore Navvy's supreme contributions?

4-5, 4 rbi and his 3rd HR of the season. He has been completely engulfed in flames at the bat this season and currently at .349 on the season. He's been as solid as ever behind the dish as well.

I remember tons of articles strewn throughout the internet about a month ago saying he was gonna drop like a ball of tungsten on Jupiter (not those words exactly) and here he is still burning brightly like a ball of molten tungsten (that's hot!) but not on Jupiter (it's not that hot there).

Also cleared up and put to rest was the "confrontation" between Navvy and Matt Garza. Dioner basically righted the ship and claims the issue is resolved but Manager Joe Maddon put it more clearly: "What appears to be a negative can actually create a certain amount of growth and a positive" - and you wonder why I love St. Joseph of Hazleton so much?

Basically, things were said, drama was mama'd and Garza got a ear full of lesson. Navvy calls the shots, Garza focuses his expendable energy on the task at hand - pitching. It's quite simple. But apparently it had to happen in this fashion for the lesson to be not just learned, but remembered.

Navarro will catch Garza in his next start and I'm betting they both are better for this in the long run. One thing for sure, the "suckers" who didn't get the memo to drop Navarro from their "fantasy" squads are looking pretty damned smart this week.

In reality (as in not fantasy), Navarro is a 24 year old player realizing his potential and putting it together nicely. Yes, he turned 24 in February. He hasn't batted below .333 all season!!!

Honorable Mention - Joe Maddon who got his first win as a manager in Anaheim. After spending thirty years in the Angels organization, he finally got one on them (in a third year of trying). Congrats, Joe!

Next up - Scotty K goes for 7 in a row

10

1 - Ty Cobb
2 - Babe Ruth
3 - Honus Wagner
4 - Christy Mathewson
5 - Walter Johnson
6 - Morgan Bulkeley
7 - Ban Johnson
8 - Nap Lajoie
9 - Connie Mack
10 - John McGraw


A Picture is worth 1000 "Shut Up"s to a Yankees fan or 1,000,000 "HA HA"s to a Phillies fan

Or one ride with George Costanza... take your pick.

Tartabull.JPG


Dr. Commento Answers the Questions

ATQ - Yesterday's 10 was Non-Hall of Fame wide recievers from 1980 - 1985 that I liked - yet, somehow (as in I didn't know how to wiki them correctly in sufficient time) I "forgot" Jonny Lam Jones and White Shoes Johnson. Honorable Mention to Harold Carmichael and Alfred Jackson.


KD with the noggin scratcher: "So, how come there's no mention of horse? Because in some European countries, that's what you eat."

Well, KD... I saved this response because I wanted to save these tidbits:


1) The last horse slaughterhouse in the U.S. - which slaughtered an average of 1,000 horses A WEEK and exported the meat to Europe and Japan was closed in December. As in just this past December! Meanwhile, China accounts for a little less than a third of the world's horse meat production.


1b) Oddly enough, there's no word for horse meat in English (like cows = beef, pigs = pork, birds = poultry, etc.)


2) In reality, the majority of meat from horse slaughterhouses does NOT go into pet food production, and the cuts of meat aren't considered a delicacy - just "meat" - and do hit the plates in Japan, and many parts of Europe, South America and Africa; as are many of the by-products (I want Andrew Zimmern on this STAT!).


2b) Blame the Roman Catholic Church for making horse meat a "taboo" item. They declared that horse meat was for poor and unclean people and we've been living under that stigma since. Also blame the Roman Catholics for bringing horses to the Americas... You never here them bitch about people who eat cars though, do you?


3) Ferdinand, the horse who won the '86 Kentucky Derby and also beat '87 Derby winner Alysheba in a Breeder's Cup race in 1988 was slaughtered in Japan after he failed to stud for his owners after many tries. He went from a $30,000 stud fee stallion to $15 a pound from the meat locker in a mere 12 years (horses regularly live 30-40 years).

Imagine you're a healthy 20 year old or so but you're unable to successfully reproduce. Guess what? You're DINNER, pal!! Them's the breaks!


4) Yes, the "left over" parts of a horse (hooves, bone trimmings and connective tissues) are sent to rendering plants, boiled and processed with other animal by products (including restaurant scraps, butchershop trimmings and even good old fashioned road kill) and made into such wonderful everyday products such as soap, animal feed, industrial lubricants and yes, glue - the heavy duty kind like furniture glue. But thanks to the fast food industry, an excess of cow parts have pretty much squashed any demand for horse parts.


5) If you're "so hungry you can eat a horse" and are looking for some horse meat recipes - here you go.


6) As horses age their meat gets tougher (naturally) but it still is leaner and less tough than beef (although it is more fibrous - so bust out the crock pot!!) It is much higher in protein and iron than beef. Now I'm hungry!


7) I found one website that said that a majority of Americans have eaten horse meat many times and that meat imported from South America (and that's A LOT of meat in the U.S.) is notorious for having high horse content. It's most likely that if it DOESN'T say "100% Beef Product" (that label hasn't been around that long), it more than likely has horse meat in it! Yummy!


8) More societies and people in the world frown upon consumption of pigs (Islamic regions) and cows (Hindu regions) than horses (U.S., Canada). Many health boards suggest that horse meat is better for you and safer for consumption than wild game animals such as deer, bison and elk. Horses do not share diseases or parasites with humans like just about every other animal we eat. Horses are "dead end hosts" meaning their medical conditions end with their species (don't get frightened about rumors of a deadly "Horse Flu"). Horse meat is even safe for humans when eaten RAW!!! In fact, experts say that the biggest harm horse meat could provide humans is not from disease but from horse medications that may be carried through the meat. But the major drawback to horse meat is that it spoils quicker than beef and can't be stored (frozen, etc) as long as beef. Convenience wins!


9) Horse meat is technically illegal for sale but in many Asian grocery stores (in every state but California) it can be purchased usually in chunks of 3-5 pounds. It must be listed as "not for human consumption" despite the only legitimate health concern is that it's taboo in our society!


10) Americans... yes, we have our heads up our collective butts on so many things. I thought there was more logic to why we don't eat horse meat (although we all have) than there is.... which is none. Next time someone makes a "horse's ass" comment, I'm gonna say - "sure I'll have some, I have some great recipes for it!!!"


Strike a Prose

I'm just another facking poet

I'm just rearranging words
It ain't like nobody's ever
thought of this before

I'm just another facking poet

Like I can unlock some lost combination
everything tumbles into place
Leaving the riches inside
to me and my whims

I'm just another facking poet

Man, as soon as I get a good idea
I start to think
"Yeah, that's a good idea"
and I plan it out
brainstorming
then without warning
I forget what I was thinking about

I'm just another facking poet

Like I can read history backwards
before it happens
Tthe aim toward desired outcomes
Avoiding the trappings
What is happening?

I'm just another facking poet

I remember this game
playing and playing
designed a long time before now
the time comes to fruition

I'm just another facking poet

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RomiezzoLegend
516 days ago
Score 5+-
I hate how many fans out there are so biased. They take the chance they get, and they just think, "Oh, well since every player on my team is good, why not vote for them all?", instead of looking at the players themselves and see how well they do. Why can't people be rational and vote for the people who are MOST DESERVING? I'm totally with you, Manny. 100%.

Griffey Jr. hitting his 700th homer: can he do it? Absolutely. Will he? I don't think so. He's not one of those players who just doesn't retire just because he wants money. He's definitely not done now, but I think he'll retire earlier than people think.

You wanna talk about time differences? HA!

I remember you telling me that Dioner Navarro was going to have a good season, and I figured out why. He ended on a very positive note last season. Click here for more info.

And thanks, Falcon for Navarro! ;)

Oh, hey. Congrats Joe for that 1st win as a manager in Anaheim... or LA... or BLAGH! An-A!

Once again, great article, Manny.
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JuTMSY4Legend
516 days ago
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ha...I'm totally voting for every Phillie so those bastard Mets fans don't pull any shit...
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
516 days ago
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There should be a test you need to pass - like a driver's exam -before you can vote for all-stars.

Can you name more than 3 stadiums?

Who won the last three World Series?

Name 3 players that won a batting title, ever.

Etc...
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Steel TownDraft Pick
516 days ago
Score 4+-
The Buccos outfield is doing really well and won't get the recognition Pittsburgh sorely needs. But, I guess it doesn't matter since doing well in Pittsburgh just makes you trade bait.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
516 days ago
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Unfortunately, most people who vote go with the teams in the news.

Could this be the year that a Ray gets voted in? Fack no.


Could this be the year that two Rays make the All-Star squad together? Maybe... maybe.

I just hope that it isn't Carl and Kaz, because they've both been recognized before and while they are all-stars, some other Rays deserve the nod too.


Oh yeah, I didn't mention this, but I made my 25 write in votes for Evan Longoria already...
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RomiezzoLegend
516 days ago
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So you're saying that you don't want Kazmir in just because you want other guys to get a chance to be an All-Star, Manny? C'mon dude. Kazmir's great this season.

6-1, 1.40 ERA, and 44 strikeouts in 45 innings. Not bad.

I could also see James Shields in. He has a pretty solid ERA and showed he was not a fluke last year when he earned 12 wins and earned a 3.85 ERA.

I could also see B.J. Upton in the All-Star game. .299 average, and a team leading 38 RBIs and a .408 OBP (good for 3rd in the AL). He's also 3rd in the league in stolen bases (20), and 2nd in times on base (111).
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
516 days ago
Score 2+-
Let me clarify, if only two Rays make it, I would prefer if it wasn't the same two guys everyone knows. Upton, Pena, Dioner Navarro, Shields, Aki, I don't care... but it would just be a rubber stamp cop out if only CC and Kaz go.
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RomiezzoLegend
516 days ago
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I would definitely like to see Akinori Iwamura, Dioner Navarro, B.J. Upton, and/or Evan Longoria in there. They all have a lot of potential and a lot of talent. I just don't see Navarro's HR and RBI numbers getting him anywhere. Upton and Shields seem like the most reasonable picks for the Rays.
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HrolfrPee Wee
516 days ago
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olaf reads this every day and always same. Makes no sense to me. and why is picture always same. those cookies terrible. stale and woodey in mouth. food from china salty and make olaf gasey in night. cookie had note for olaf and said I be rich and happy. but i work in carwash and have little money to go america. The cookie lyed.
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LASportsblogAAA-er
516 days ago
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The Cookie is a self-fulling fortune, you only get what you put in to it.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
516 days ago
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You're right. The ignore button IS awesome!!!
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RomiezzoLegend
516 days ago
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I would say that he talks just like the Cookie Monster. But he degrades the "cookie". So...
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
516 days ago
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I just want him to know that he doesn't talk like he's from Denmark very well... you know, a country where they learn ENGLISH in elementary school....
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Steel TownDraft Pick
516 days ago
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I spoke with an intern for the Pirates and he said they employ two interns who's job it is to just punch all-star ballots all day. Maybe the Red Sox employ 10 interns to handle this very important job.
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KelsdadAll-Star
516 days ago
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No, that's Theo's job.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
516 days ago
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Isn't it the Rays players' job to punch Red Sox all day? (buh-dum-bum)
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JuTMSY4Legend
516 days ago
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Danny Tartabull...you were gonna be so good...

ok not really...

but that team had Rico Brogna on it...easily one of my favorite Harry Kalas pronounced names...
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
516 days ago
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Danny tartabull was kinda good for a little while and then BLAM! He was waxed toast. I'm glad I traded away my stash of his baseball cards while his value was high (well, "high" is relative, I guess)
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Niteowl049AAA-er
516 days ago
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Good to know Garza and Navarro are OK after the little fracas the other day. Danny Tartabull and Rico Brogna...I thought their baseball cards were going to be worth something and now you can't give them away.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
516 days ago
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Ha! Just made this comment above!

You might be the only person who thought Brogna cards would find value.

I built a false fascination for Tartabull amongst my friends so I could trade up for the cards I REALLY wanted. I even had a little pile of Jose Tartabull cards to fuel the fancy!
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KelsdadAll-Star
516 days ago
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Send Brogna's to me.
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RomiezzoLegend
516 days ago
Score 2+-
Which one do you want?

1995 Pinnacle Zenith Edition
1997 Pacific Collection
2000 MLB Showdown?
Topps 2000?
Topps 2001?
Topps 2002?

Take your pick...
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KelsdadAll-Star
516 days ago
Score 2+-
All of them.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
516 days ago
Score 2+-
I can't say Rico Brogna without hearing that "Rico Suave" song...
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RomiezzoLegend
516 days ago
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But the Topps 2001 one was when he was on the Red Sox.


Still want it?
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KelsdadAll-Star
516 days ago
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I've known him since he was 12 years old. I coached him for two seasons and was a teammate for awhile, (he played in a local semi pro league the year he was drafted). What will I do with the cards? Send them to him. Without an SAE.
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RomiezzoLegend
516 days ago
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I had no idea, Kels. I thought you just really liked the guy for the way that he played in the MLB. :S (That got me a little confused) Remind me in mid-July. I honestly will take all of my cards and send them to you if you want.
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Falcon02520Legend
516 days ago
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I purposely don't vote for Yankees or Red Sox when I do my voting. There has to be a way to counter those uneducated bastards...

I wish I were Aaron Rodgers or Shaun Alexander. You want to know why? They have been paid millions of dollars for really nothing...

Junior Griffey is the best baseball player of this generation...

Clippers < Suns < Trailblazers

There would still be an East Coast bias because when the settlers came over from Europe and built on the East Coast, they laid the ground work for the best part of the country...

That last statement is sarcasm... the east coast sucks...

Dioner Navarro was on my fantasy team. Business is business and I had to trade him in order to upgrade at another position...

Longoria is also on my fantasy team ;)

The list is the first ten players elected to the Baseball Hall of Fame...

What do I win?

Good stuff again Manny...
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
516 days ago
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But after the thrill of having millions of dollars wears off, you're still Shaun Alexander...


I love the Junior sentiment, but there's this guy that used to play with him called Alex that wants to inform you that SS and 3B are premium positions compared to OF and that until he wins a batting title or a couple more MVPs, the respose is... "un-uhn"

And if the world spun the other way, the explorers would have come from the West not the east because they would have followed the sun to see if the world was flat or not, not explore against the sun. Nice try.

When you traded Dioner to upgrade at another position, you downgraded at catcher didn't you? Cut off your nose to spite your face, eh?
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Falcon02520Legend
516 days ago
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Millions of dollars would not wear off if invested correctly...

I am not a fan of Alex, so I stand by my statement...

In that case, it would be the Japanese that came over and settled the New World. So we would all be bad drivers speaking the second most complex language in the world...

I got Ryan Howard and Russell Martin in return. Howard is an upgrade over Ryan Church (considering that he is on the DL now) and Martin is pretty much par with Navarro so far as far as league scoring goes. I say it's a good deal (fantasy baseball wise)...
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JuTMSY4Legend
516 days ago
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Its the thrill of having millions that Manny's describing...and all I can say is he's probably right...

Money ain't all its cracked up to be...Do I wish I was making 10 times what i'm making now (yes!)...do i realize I'm actually living pretty comfortably (absolutely)

And you show me where to invest millions that won't wear out right now and I'll listen...although like the financial thought goes in times like these...stick w/ beer

you drink it in a down market to drown your sorrows and you drink it in an up market to celebrate your victory!
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
516 days ago
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trader? or traitor?


Go Rays!!!
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Falcon02520Legend
516 days ago
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Living in my shoes, a decent pay would be a upgrade...

Trader... Fantasy baseball is busniess...

Go Rays!!!
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
516 days ago
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I've talked to many times my fair share of millionaires in my former occupation.

A happy millionaire happens as frequently as a nude beach with no old or fat people. Somewhere they exist, but you gotta lok and look and look to find them, and by the time you do all that looking, you seen alot of things you can't forget.

Or as the saying goes, you gotta kiss a lot of toads before you'll find your prince!

Let's put it in P-Diddy terms - Mo' Money, Mo' Problems!
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KelsdadAll-Star
516 days ago
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*Manny: Hey, Mr. Millionaire, nice weather we're having...
  • Millionaire: Shut the fack up and go get my car...
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
516 days ago
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No it was more like this...

Millionaire: Oh no, my stock went up so I gotta sell it so I don't owe taxes...

Manny: But you MADE money on the stock, right?

Millionaire: But I gotta pay taxes on it.

Manny: But you MADE money right?

Millionaire: But I don't want to pay taxes.

Manny: So you DON'T want to make money?

Millionaire: No, I don't want to pay taxes.

Manny: Can I have you hold one momet sir? (smashes head on desk repeatedly)

this wasn't just a daily occurrance, it was every 1-2 hours.

It's AMAZING how many people get their money from their parents who were smart enough to make the money but somehow the intelligence doesn't come with the DNA.


Seriously, one time I actually broke my desk and evrything on it crashed on the groun. Two cubicle aisles over, a presentation with corporate bigwigs was going on. And I didn't get embarrassed in the least...
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KelsdadAll-Star
516 days ago
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And you did that for how long? I'm looking for a new financial guy. If you get back into it, let me know. Ours is useless.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
516 days ago
Score 1+-
That role for 3 years, in the industry of catering to ridiculous requests of millionaires and finding "acceptable loopholes and ways around compliance rules" for 9 years...
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JuTMSY4Legend
516 days ago
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speaking as a compliance guy...i hate you...
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JuTMSY4Legend
516 days ago
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err uh..."Sales Prevention"
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
516 days ago
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Yeah... heh heh.... you're welcome!

Believe me, I was VERY good at what I did. It was all "legal" just "iffy"... we didn't have to backtrade much, nor did we market time but still, there are ways...

But I worked in a department that pretty much subsidized most of the company, so when you cater to the upper crust you often have to bend over so far that your head goes up your own ass.

Rich guy gets what rich guy wants - or at least we made it appear that way...
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JuTMSY4Legend
516 days ago
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Well...as a finance guy...i take a business approach...but I try to have some moral grounding...

But yeah..."accomadating" the rich is important i suppose...

Sales...bloodsuckers...tomato tomoto...
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
516 days ago
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I don't ever recall once anyone at the company saying "You know what sir, we think your demands are ridiculous, hell even illegal and we'd prefer if you took your money elsewhere" - not once.


You don't know how many times I wanted to say it though...
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JuTMSY4Legend
516 days ago
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I've said the first half of that...

usually mine starts with "That's fucking bullshit...we're not playing that game"

I also work for an insurance company, so things are a little more conservative...
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JuTMSY4Legend
516 days ago
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its all about risk vs reward...
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KelsdadAll-Star
516 days ago
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You guys are describing almost exactly a previous occupation I had for awhile....bookie.
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JuTMSY4Legend
516 days ago
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shhhhh! they are reading...
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
516 days ago
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The company I worked for was more conservative than most Insurance companies. I think I was the only male in the whole company that wore earrings and had tattoos. But I was really good at what I did, extremely accurate and overly productive (when I showed up to work, that is) so they let me slide a bit...
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KelsdadAll-Star
516 days ago
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Nothing, because there are two people on the list who weren't players.
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Falcon02520Legend
516 days ago
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facking technicality... The list is the first ten people elected to the baseball hall of fame...
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
516 days ago
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Close enough, although only players are "elected". I went lame with 10, because the horse meat info in ATQ section also had 10...
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KelsdadAll-Star
516 days ago
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Nice research on the horse meat thing, although I'm noggin scratching for the point to it all.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
516 days ago
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Because I like to debunk commonly accepted bunk.

I'm gonna get me some horse meat and if it's yummy enough to me, I'm gonna start advocating that people get over their retarded, baseless biases and chow on horses... WHY NOT?

There's a wild mustang issue in Northern Arizona all the way up to Idaho. I can think of a solution - Dinner!!!

Actually, I just started researching it - because I was only going to mention the story of Ferdinand - and found it wildly fascinating, so I shared all of the research...


It's what Manny Stiles does =)
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DeutscherRed-Shirting
515 days ago
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http://www.c...html?ref=rss check it out manny.
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KelsdadAll-Star
515 days ago
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Nice job Deutscher. I wouldn't have made the comments I did without being 100% accurate, but I do appreciate the "independent verification."
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LASportsblogAAA-er
516 days ago
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If the Clippers opened the wallet they could aquire Arenas 1 of 2 ways:

-Sign and Trade with an "opted out" Elton Brand (but it doesn't look like he's going to opt)

-Sign and Trade involving Kamen or Maggette (much more likely) and a package of picks and expiring contracts.

With Thornton due for an extention in 2 off seasons and they desire to re-sign Brand I don't see the Clippers buying Arenas outright off the market.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
516 days ago
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Two things are clear.

a) Gil wants to come back home and

2) the Clippers REALLY, REALLY, REALLY need to make some moves.
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KelsdadAll-Star
516 days ago
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! Arenas on the Suns??!! (puking sounds)
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
516 days ago
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The Suns don't have space to make a move that would improve the team...


If Gil (who even though he attended U of A is from LA, KD) comes to the Suns, he'd be a decent fit (not perfect mind you) but I enjoy him so maybe Gil could keep me a Suns fan...


(I haven't jumped ship...yet)
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KelsdadAll-Star
516 days ago
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Before you jump ship, make sure someone else's bandwagon has room.
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SSreportersLegend
516 days ago
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You're the same person that said the Suns would win the title with Shaq.


So....what do ya do ya do now? Try and develop DJ Strawberry or....just have Giricek start some games just for the heck of it?
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
516 days ago
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yeah... do you want me to start listing all the things you were wrong about??

Oh, and BTW - I was RIGHT about the Suns... here's a quote from Oct 24, 2007 - "This team doesn't have the look of a champion. Last year they absolutely did, but not now. I hope I'm wrong, or that a move can be made to get that edge but I just don't see it."

So bite me.
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SSreportersLegend
516 days ago
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BS, what happened on April 3rd?
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LASportsblogAAA-er
516 days ago
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Manny why don't you pull up your quotes from a more relevant article? LIke your April, 3rd piece... that one ring a bell when you were a big Gordan fan?
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LASportsblogAAA-er
516 days ago
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Looks like me and SSR recall the same article
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Falcon02520Legend
516 days ago
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Stiles admits when he is wrong...
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
516 days ago
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yeah, where I said the Celtics wouldn't win the East and Kobe wouldn't win MVP - clearly, I was trying to wish events into happening.

Can't I be a delirious fan on occasion, too?


Lesson - always trust my gut instinct. Or Sports Augury. I apologize for NOTHING! (until the end of the year)

So once again, bite me.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
516 days ago
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An La, I'm still a Gordan fan. I like all the Suns players. I really do, well - I'm still a tad leery of Human Jinx Grant Hill - but it's the ownership group that is pushing me away... This has nothing to do with the players.
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LASportsblogAAA-er
516 days ago
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So why the fack does the Falcon have to tell ME that MANNY can admit when he's wrong? Shouldn't ManRays be jumping on it? I'm sure he is but still he's a big boy Ninja he can talk for himself.
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SSreportersLegend
516 days ago
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You're supposed to be the "Objective Suns" fan....you said Chris Paul should've been MVP and you stuck with it, so that's even more BS.


Everything on there was the truth because you've harped on it ever since.
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Falcon02520Legend
516 days ago
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I'm just saying wait until Janurary before the flood gates open...
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
516 days ago
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And I still consider Paul to be 2007-08 NBA MVP... what's your point? That I'm actually human and not the all-knowing machine you thought I was? Sorry about your delusions.
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SSreportersLegend
516 days ago
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More like you treat it as fact and BTW, the actual MVP is in the NBA Finals and single handedly killed the Spurs...something Chris Paul didn't do.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
516 days ago
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OK, you win!!! I don't what it is you're trying to win, but you win it!

Happy now?


Now, do you want me to start listing ALL of the thing I WAS right about?? Do you? Do you????
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SSreportersLegend
516 days ago
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Just saying you backtrack more than anyone else when you're wrong about certain things.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
516 days ago
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WTF are you talking about? "certain things" or certain thing?

How did I backtrack?

I admit I'm wrong more than anyone else here... and I'm not wrong about much...

Did I think the Suns were going to win the championship in October? Hell No. I said "IF THEY MAKE A BIG MOVE" and when they traded for Shaq, I thought that was the big move.

Sure, I got caught up in the excitement.

Did I want them to win it all? HELL YES. Do I think that the Spurs-Suns series would have been completely different if Tim Duncan doesn't hit a prayer three, Hell Yes. Do I think the Suns would have destroyed the Lakers in a playoff series, HELL YES - in fact, you go Whatif that series a few times and see how wrong I am.

Was I wrong? So what?

What is your problem SSR? What are you trying to accomplish here? Do you want to write a 2,000 word post on how I can be wrong sometimes? WAIT UNTIL Dec 31st and the third installment of "All the things I was wrong about (this year edition)" is all yours.

Get off my junk. You're fighting with the ghosts in your head, not me.
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SSreportersLegend
516 days ago
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Whatever, I'll let you be.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
516 days ago
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All I want to know is "what is your point?"

Look right under "pre-emptive maneuvers" - the whole section was created for that one sentence... here is the 7th cookie, and that (Pre-Emptive Maneuvers) segment is still a part of it.

Instead of "letting me be" maybe you should consider that it's a possibility that you are wrong about this and should apologize to me?
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KelsdadAll-Star
516 days ago
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Morgan Bulkeley was also Mayor of Hartford, a Connecticut state senator and also Governor. He was also one of the founders and president of Aetna for 43 years. Plus being elected to the HOF as the first president of the National League. Pretty impressive resume....
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
516 days ago
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I don't know much about him, but he was put in with the inagural class so he must be important 9or had the right pictures of the right people)

Interesting note about the first HoF ballot.

Babe Ruth didn't get the most votes, Ty Cobb did!

Honus Wagner and Babe got the same number of votes.


It think it's important to note that in his day, Babe Ruth was still considered as a lesser player than Ty Cobb - as Ty himself would have told you.


Why is it important? Obviously HR and championship rings didn't matter as much then as they seem to now!
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JuTMSY4Legend
516 days ago
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Honus Wagner Story:

So, about 4 years ago, I attended a speaking engagement with an author (who's name i forget...he wasn't a good writer) who wrote about the 1903 World Series, the first world series, which took place on the huntington polo grounds, a place that is a short walk from where i lived at the time...

The guy wanted to be some sort of story teller so he talked about how the home town americans beat pittsburgh and their famed Honus Wagner, who he said should have been pronounced Honus Vagner with a german accent (you catch the drift)...he went on and on...Vagner this and Vagner that...finally I stopped him...and asked: "What does Honus mean" and he said his real first name was "Johannes" (He pronounced it with a hard J

Needless to say, my response was a little curt: "so shouldn't it be Yohannes Vagner?

Fairly confident I baffled the guy, everyone seems to chuckled...his response; "yeah, i think that would probably be correct"


oh...and then i found five dollars
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
516 days ago
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Five dollars!!! Awesome! =)
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KelsdadAll-Star
516 days ago
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Another interesting tidbit about the first class. Morgan Bulkeley wasn't in it.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
516 days ago
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Good point. He went in 1937, not '36. He was still one of the first ten in though...
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
516 days ago
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uh, oh... my monitor is burning up and the smoke smells funny... catch y'all later (maybe!?!)
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
516 days ago
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Jeez, my monitor is going kaput and JTJ is crashed in the same day? What are the chances?


Message @ Joketard: Tweet Tweet, Birdbrain!!!

Even if I could have done it, and even if it were something I would stoop to do, wouldn't I have done it LONG ago? Schmuck.


Delusional Paranoia fits you so well.
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OvertheedgeVarsity
514 days ago
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i dont get it
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
514 days ago
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I told you to pay her more! Maybe you should talk about her more than yourself and she might let you get it.
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