16-0, Huh?

was I too biased? I have a feeling that the hordes of Pats fans on this site will rip me a new one for being honest as a fan of a team OTHER then the New Englanders.

Honestly, though, it is honesty and the team has some work to do. Best teams coming up, more pressure and one-and-done.

They are (so far) the greatest team in NFL History.

Biased, shmiased. If they don't win it all they will have choked. Regular season doesn't mean anything. All you have to do is get to the playoffs...either undefeated or at .500. Steelers weren't quite as bad as .500 the year they won but all that matters is that ring. Don't get me wrong 16-0 is a hell of an acheivement but I don't believe its more impressive than a Super Bowl victory.

As a Patriots fan, I'm not the least bit offended. Winning the Super Bowl is what I really want as a fan. Going undefeated is merely a sidenote. An impressive sidenote, but still a sidenote.

It's nice to see the other side of the argument. I think that during Boston Love Fest 2007, the fact that there are people and opinions west of Springfield gets lost in the shuffle. Be biased all you want, we know they won't show any apology for being that way.

i whole-heartedly agree.

He's the only one I've seen. Can ask Bob Grese how it feels to watch his kid sit behind Kyle Orton?

yeah...papali, eat your heart out.

too much booze?

booze, disgusted by football...same difference... watching the pats go undefeated is like watching your sister get railed by your friend....so lame...so so lame...

i am so lucky i don't have sisters...

Shut up, I didn't have to watch

waht? You chose to watch? Gross dude...gross :)

the ESPN rederick wears on me obviously

As much as I hate to lay the blame on him because he played an amazing game, Eli Manning's interception was ultimately what cost them the game. They hung with the Pats the entire game and probably should have won, but the interception allowed the Pats the 10-point lead and that was enough.

rhetoric?

uh yeah, i turned it off...

I can' believe this...I'm actually at home in Lancaster and can't get away from the pats...then I have to go back into the belly of the beast and listen to this garbage...

Is there a god and does he hate me?

ya rhetoric*... my mind is starting to head down hill with spelling and grammer, I'm on my 8th straight 8 hour day at work and I'm in the last hour of the last shift...

what's worse is that AGM is gonna get flooded by this garbage too I think i might just disappear for a while...

Uh, and grammar* holy crap, if I make it through the 25 min commute home I'm be so thankful

Actually a blueprint is: "a detailed outline or plan of action: a blueprint for success."

They have lost in different areas of the game and none of the teams they have played have been able to capitalize. But now there is 16 games of film, (a blueprint) that shows their weakness. They are now going in to the playoffs, facing teams that are a lot better then what they have played the last few weeks (they alomst lost to the Jests and the Ravens...)

There is a blueprint out there for how to beat them.

And The Giants aren't a good measuring stick. Everyone knows how to beat them...rattle Eli...and the Pats did that.

Again, I am not trying to take anything away from them, but they are beatable.

i am be so thankful too ; - )

*Jets Damn...LA, you are wearing off on me...

dude...LA needs to get some sleep

there is no blueprint to follow to beat them if no one has made the blueprint to beat them, you know since their 16-0 and all. Teams have found spots where they're weak, but there is nothing I can point to and say "See, we can beat them and this is how you do it." Watch all the films, and they all end with the Pats winning. Even if you could combine all the films and make 1 gameplan to beat them if wouldn't work because it's based on 12 different sets of players whose abilities, talents and skills won't match 1 teams, so they couldn't implement your so called "blueprint" anyway, even if there was one.

you make a valid point, but we will have to agree to disagree.

We saw the plan that the Giants had at the beginning of the game and it worked...they went away from it.

Look, I think the minds that are in the NFL are so much brighter and intuitive then a bunch of bloggers (minus Cam Cameron *burn*) and they will be able to piece something together.

We all know that each game is about match-ups, and I firmly believe that the match-ups they will see from the teams in the playoffs, as well as the game-planning will be better then that of the ones during the rgular season.

Also, they may all END with the Pats winning, but again that is because they are able to outlast teams like the Jets, Ravens and Giants. I believe the Jags will give them a run for their money.

I love buzz words and cliches...

We're just on different sides (how beatbable are they) of the same table (someone just beat the Facking PATS!!!)

word, bruddah, word.

sadly neither is Tyrone or Manny... who's rhetoric i would enjoy right about now...

if you mention them again they'll appear so shuuu on the Ja... whoops almost did it ;)

Yeah, AGM just isn't the same.

no dude, we understand your point. but as I have said in lockerroom discussions (usually sans towell) this is a place for critique and discussion. I am just giving you a good back and forth, and occasionally we poke fun at spelling and grammar...but I have no room to talk...since I can't spell my way out of a paper bag.

Oh, glad to see I'm still putting thoughts together! But I was saying you guys are right about my need to rest and log out for a couple of hours. I was writing Hotel reservation info into a comment box earlier and a comment on a reservation card...

HA!

wow...cool...

hey, when you're a philly fan, you look for other small victories... do what you gotta do...

Does that mean the Bears would be good and the Bulls would win again... *crossing my fingers that sweet lou fails*

Boston was never cursed. Just the Sox

If John Elway would of pitched for the Rockies, maybe they would of made the World Series 15 years sooner

And if a frog had wings it wouldn't bump his ass when he hopped.

• Cassandra, Wayne's World*

Comment and reference of the night AfriadofHoch

Nappy, you're about to give me nightmares with this curse-broken-Chicago nonsense.

They did face a team like the Colts. And won 24-20. They also beat the Cowboys 48-27. The last few games have been like the 2001-2005 Pats. They play a really close game, capitalize on the very few mistakes that the other team makes, and pull out a win in he end. They may give fans a heart attack on the way to winning, but they find a way to make it happen.

I blame this guy -- we were blowing the doors off the competition until he had to complain that it "wasn't fun to watch". Be careful what you wish for, Xinoph!

I agree Raw. The only thing I can think of is they're unpredictable. They lose to NO by almost 20 then go into PGH and get a win. They're D is usually on point.

Because the have a good run game, a stout defense and a QB that rarely turns it over. Last I checked that is a recipe for success.

Agreed, they played a much tougher schedule than the '72 dolphins. I also don't buy this "Jacksonville is the team no one wants to play" crap. They are close, but not there yet. Pittsburgh Steelers Revenge tour '07. Watch out Jacksonvill and New England (Disclaimer: this statement based on nothing other than hopes and dreams).l

Patriots non-division opponents had a combined record of 96-64 (.600)

Cleveland was inconsistent (not in playoffs)

San Diego thew 2nd game of the year was NOTHING...they were terrible the first half. Pitt was a good win.

But come on, stop being a close minded fan and agree that they aren't invincible...

from my article: " appreciate their win, and I appreciate their prowess as the best team in the history of the NFL, but I won't sing their praises until they go 19-0."

When did I say they were invincible?

I'll say it. They are invincible. The only way they lose is if they make more mistakes than their opponent and their opponent scores touchdowns on each and every mistake the Pats make. To me, that is as invincible as it gets. I can't wait to hear all the crying and excuses after the Pats win the Super Bowl, because then the haters will be eating the humble pie.

Other than the current Patriots and the '72 Dolphins, every other NFL team has lost atleast one game... a team's record is the only stat that matters, so what is better than losing nothing?

Looking at nothing other than record is a bit simplified, don't ya think. The patriots, for one, seem to think that 16-0 means nothing if they don't win the superbowl. The record could almost be disregarded by that logic. I think a case can be made for a number of superbowl winning teams. To me, that would be the only concrete criteria. Then you would have to look at a number of other factors. I also don't think there is a definite answer. It will just be a barroom debate for ever.

i agree with steel...i think most people only consider those phins because they went undefeated... How about the 85 bears? To me, they're the best

when it comes down to it, winning it all is all that matters... the only other thing that makes a difference is wins and losses... there is nothing more simple than that and there are no other factors that could change this fact... (for the record, I said "if" they win it all)

there's a lot that goes into it, IMO... for example...babe hitting 60 bombs in as many games as he did (as opposed to Maris's 61 in 160 some odd games)...but the pitching, imo was a lot weaker in the 20s...

you sound like mercury morris Falcon ; - ) btw, did you hear him today....hilarious!

I am talking about teams, not individual preformances...

na, I didn't catch him on today...

oh man...hilarious...