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10 More Days??

by Onthemarkblog
created January 28, 2008, last edited February 10, 2009
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It’s (almost) official: Erik Bedard has been traded before Johan Santana.

Bedard is (almost) going from Baltimore to Seattle in a package including CF Adam “Not Pac-Man” Jones. No other names have been made official, but it could include LHP George Sherrill, OF Wladimir Balentien and C Jeff Clement. Interesting that Jones (who is flying from Winter Ball to Baltimore, even thought a deal has apparently not been officially agreed to) was once before summoned from his Winter Ball team, but this time he (well he better not be, because if there is no trade, then the Orioles and Mariners are just plain rude) won’t be going back.

Here is what Twins fans need to realize: Santana is more interested in years than in money. The Twins offered him a 5-year deal that reached in excess of $18 Million per year. If that isn’t effort, than I do not know what is. The supposed hang-up right now is that Santana wants 7 years, and many teams are only willing to offer 6. It’s become increasingly more aware that it's Santana’s contract more than players that is holding up any trade.

Another case for the Twins: The Twins offered Torii Hunter 3-yr/$45 Million. He didn’t want a 3-year deal, and ultimately got overpaid by the Angels. But what is overshadowed by Torii leaving is Delmon Young coming to Minnesota. I don’t think the Twins would’ve traded for Young if they had kept Hunter (an OF of Michael Cuddyer, Hunter and Young is sweet). Young is 10 years younger than Torii and his offensive numbers have been better than Torii’s at this age. He also has an amazing arm, and while his range probably isn’t as good as Torii’s, he is a suitable replacement. So, Torii and his headaches at $18 Million/year or Delmon Young, Justin Morneau, and Michael Cuddyer at just over $21 Million/Year…I take the later.

Charley Walter’s reported on Sunday that a Twins trade with Santana could come within 10 days (by February 6th). I still think that the Mets are the best deal in town, but it’s all a crapshoot. Fernando Martinez, Carlos Gomez, Deolis Guerra, Phillip Humber, Kevin Mulvey, Mike Pelfrey, and Ryan Church have all been listed as possibilities. Most of those names are true-prospects. Pelfrey and Ryan Church have Major League experience. The Twins should demand 3 pitching prospects and more than once of Martinez, Gomez and Church. If it doesn’t work, then try convincing Johan he should stay, or just give him the money and years. Now Charley isn’t the greatest source, but maybe he’s right.

Don’t Blog That: The Twins plan on continuing their Twins Brand Ice Cream, and are looking forward to bringing it to the new stadium

Overheard: Don’t think the Twins aren’t bummed that the Mets traded Lastings Milledge to the Nationals. Milledge would’ve been a CF prospect for the Twins in any Santana trade.

New Uniforms by 2010: Something sleeveless without pinstripes is in the works along with a new script. The new script looks something between what we have now, and what we used to have. Also, look for Red to become a larger secondary part of the uniforms, including using red as the shirt color of a sleeveless jersey (Artist Renderings are on a different computer, but will be coming in a few days).

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SSreportersLegend
656 days ago
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See Titans? The M's don't mind trading (getting rid of) Adam Jones!
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MetsJetsDevilsDraft Pick
656 days ago
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I think you are off a little on the Mets. From what I understand, the Twins had little interest in Milledge. Plus, Gomez is a CF prospect. As for the potential deal for Santana, the Mets aren't going to give up Martinez. The deal the Mets have offered in Gomez, Guerra, Mulvery and Humber which represents 4 of the Mets top prospects although with very little major league experience. I imagine if the Twins want more major league prospects, that is where you would see Pelfrey or Church included in the deal. What you won't see is Martinez AND Gomez in the same deal. I just can't see Minaya trading Gomez, Martinez and Milledge in the same offseason.
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OnthemarkblogJV Squad
656 days ago
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I think it all depends on the thoughts of winning now...or winning in 5 years. The Twins (unfortunately) are always winning in 5 years, and the GM has his job and knows what he can do. Minaya seems to be in a win now mode, because his job could be in jeopardy. He may have to mortgage the future in order to keep his job now.
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MetsJetsDevilsDraft Pick
656 days ago
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I don't think you are looking at it right. It all depends on what the best offer for Santana is. Right now, the Yankees aren't offering Hughes and the Red Sox offer has been the same as it was at the Winter meetings. Unless oneof those things change, the Twins have no leverage. What they have is a Pitcher who is an impending free agent, wants to pitch for the Mets and has told the team he will not waive his no trade clause during the season. That is why the 10 day deadline was set. They want/need to move him before pitchers and catchers report. By all reports, the Mets have the best offer on the table as is. Unless the Twins can get a better offer from the Red Sox or Yankees, the Mets are not going to sweeten theoffer because they would be bidding against themselves. If all the offers stay the same, the Twins are left with the decision to either keep Santana for the year, pray he waives his no-trade during the season, and risk losing him next year for nothing, or accepting whatever offer they think is the best offer.
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KelsdadAll-Star
656 days ago
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Jeff Clement is not in the Bedard deal.

While Carlos Gomez has the ability to play CF, he is blocked by Carlos Beltran, leaving only RF as his only option. (Barring a collapse in the spring, he will start opening day there for the Mets).

MJD is correct, Fernando Martinez AND Gomez will not be in the deal. From what I heard and what Onthemark is reporting the Twins have agreed to accept Ryan Church for Gomez.
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MetsJetsDevilsDraft Pick
656 days ago
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Are you saying the Mets would trade Martinez and Church? I had not heard that. Every offer I had heard included Gomez who the Twins likes better than Melky and Crisp, and as much, if not better than Elsbury.
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KelsdadAll-Star
655 days ago
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Yes. Which is exactly why the deal hasn't been done yet, the Mets unequivocably will not trade Carlos Gomez. The Twins want a ML outfielder in the deal, and once they realized they wouldn't get Gomez felt Church was a good enough substitution.
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MetsJetsDevilsDraft Pick
655 days ago
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Kel, where are you getting your information? Everything I have read has suggested that the Mets are willing to get rid of Gomez, but not Martinez.
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KelsdadAll-Star
655 days ago
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Here, MJD.
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OnthemarkblogJV Squad
655 days ago
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Unfortunately for MN, is the way they work...they may have to let santana play out this season
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