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'09 Quickie Tampa Bay

by Falcon02520
created January 29, 2009, last edited February 10, 2009
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Welcome to the first of many quick team breakdowns. There is still much time before the baseball season begins, but as time ticks down to Spring Training 2009 thoughts and opinions are still constantly flying around. Plus there is no better sport in the world than baseball, so why not talk about it all year round?

Tampa Bay

Projected Line-up: (ie: guessing and jack involved)
1 A Iwamura
2 C Crawford
3 E Longoria
4 C Pena
5 B.J. Upton
6 P Burrell
7 D Navarro
8 M Joyce
9 J Bartlett

Solid line-up top to bottom.  They will be hard to handle, especially if Upton has a huge year as expected.  Burrell is a nice touch to the line-up considering he will be the DH. Longoria will anchor this line-up once again. Navarro could have a breakout type season.  Bartlett is a good guy to have hitting in that nine spot...

Infield

Carlos Pena is an MVP candidate over at first base. He is a solid player who can put up big numbers when healthy. Across the diamond, Evan Longoria will show everyone why he is ahead of his years by carrying this offense, locking down on defense, and leading this young team. Willy Aybar will be the utility fielder. He can fill in at almost any position and do just about anything he needs to with a bat. One of the better bench players in the league. In front of him are Iwamura and Bartlett; solid up the middle. Offensively, they are not much to write home about, but they are key reasons to why the Rays were the best defensive team last season. That unbelievable defense will take the field again this season with one more year experience under their belts...

Outfield

Carl Crawford is one of the most underrated players in the league. With all the tools, this guy got off to such a hot start as a professional ballplayer most forget that he is only 27 despite having seven seasons of major league experience. B.J. Upton could have a huge season. With all the tools and a position that finally suits him, Upton can focus on cutting down on the strikeouts and putting the ball in play more. With his speed, infield grounders can easily turn into infield hits. Last season he learned how to take a pitch and it showed (97 walks). His .273 average was a little lower than expected but his on-base percentage was a remarkable .383. Matt Joyce is a solid young player with some pop. He had 12 home runs in only 242 at bats; pretty good for a rookie. Joyce will platoon with veteran Gabe Kapler; an experienced bench/role player. Kapler was a great find this off-season for the Rays...

Catcher

Dioner Navarro and Shawn Riggans will anchor this strong pitching staff. Navarro had a solid season offensively in 2008. He hit .295 while handling a young pitching staff. His continued development will only help the defending American League Champions. Riggans is a guy who has always shown skills, but has yet to change those skills into talent. Maybe '09 is his year...

Starting Pitching

Defense and pitching win championships, and that is how the Rays made it to the World Series last season. The pitching has become stronger due to the addition of the experience factor. Big Game James will anchor this staff. Shields has the poise to go up against the big names and not back down. Scott Kazmir is one of the best pitchers in the league when healthy. He has the stuff to be a true ace. Matt Garza paid off last season for the Rays, a first with the team. He is a young hurler who is learning to "pitch" instead of "throw." Garza will only get better this upcoming year. Andy Sonnanstine is a solid young pitcher who has great command. Rounding out the rotation will most likely be David Price. With guys like Mitch Talbot, Jeff Niemann, and Jason Hammel vying for that last spot, Price will have to earn it. Let's be realistic here... it's basically his to lose. If you don't know who David Price is, then you need to get caught up with today's talent... and fast. Price has everything he needs to be one of the best pitchers of all-time. The journey starts here...

Bullpen

Troy Percival will be the closer once again in 2009. The veteran leads a solid staff who benefits from having great defense played behind them. Dan Wheeler, Grant Balfour, and James Howell are some names to look for in that middle relief role. Jason Hammel will likely end up in the pen as well, and he will be welcomed with open arms. This is one of the better pens in the majors, so look for this to be a strength Joe Maddon uses throughout the season...

Prospects

David Price is a considered a prospect and favorite to win Rookie of the Year. The Rays' system is full of young guns such as Wade Davis, Jeremy Hellickson, Jeff Niemann, Matt Moore, and Nick Barnese. That list doesn't include Jacob McGee, who is returning from Tommy John Surgery and will likely return to top prospect form. Davis will likely see the majors this season, as will Niemann. Hellickson is a step away from top form and Barnese is following in his footsteps. Moore is a lefty on the same page as Barnese. Tim Beckman, last June's first overall draft pick, will begin his first full season of professional ball at shortstop. He was drafted number one overall for a reason. Desmond Jennings (OF) and Jake Jefferies (CA) are solid players but don't offer much in the power category. The Rays system is stacked! It is the biggest asset to the organization. There is such an influx of talent, they will force each other to keep getting better. It is, "You better perform because there are guys waiting to take your spot." Best farm system in the league...

Conclusion

The Rays have a great team from top to bottom. It will be hard competing in the AL East against the Red Sox and Yankees. Last season, they were a surprise. Let's see what they can do when they are the team everyone is gunning for in the American League. A World Series revisit is not out of the question, but topping the Red Sox and Yankees a second season in a row is no easy task. If any team in the majors can do it, it would be the Rays...

Thanks to my ol' friend Jack for his help in screwing this preview upwards...


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Falcon02520Legend
282 days ago
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Thanks for the votes but nothing as far as comments go?!?!? Come'on someone has to have a thought on the Rays? Somebody has to have some smack to talk? Anything? Anybody? Thoughts Please?
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RawbeezeitzMajor Leaguer
282 days ago
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Worst team name in all of sports.
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Falcon02520Legend
282 days ago
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eh, at least it's an opinion...
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Behbigben15All-Star
282 days ago
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Interested in seeing how Pat Burrell will do in the AL. I am guessing he will be Tampa's DH, because it seems as though they will keep him as far away from the OF as they can with Crawford, Upton and the young Matt Joyce out there.
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Falcon02520Legend
282 days ago
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I think Burrell is a great addition to this club. The pressure will be off him being out of Philly, and it will be a nice change of pace for him. He will be able to relax and just play his game. Plus, 30 home runs and 100 rbi is a welcome addition to any lineup...
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Falcon02520Legend
282 days ago
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And thanks for having an opinion... more plusses if I could just for commenting
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
281 days ago
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The front office is this team's greatest strength. They will be making some moves this year - especially if the economics keep working in their favor.

One thing the Yankees and Red Sox don't have that the Rays DO have - cohesion. The rays have been together, through the ups and downs for a long time - that togetherness can't be bought or manufacted instantly. And best yet, the Rays will have little pressure to be expected to repeat. (They still have great starting pitching and excellent defense) \ The big spending teams are going to do what big spending teams ALWAYS do - underachieve because baseball is played over 8 months in many different cities on grass or a grass-like surface - not on paper or in bank accounts...

I also think BJ will be the #2 hitter, C.C. the #3 and Longlorious the cleanup and Pena the 5 - that way the lineup is very, very balanced - L -R -L -R and so on...
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JuTMSY4Legend
281 days ago
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dare i say, how are the economics working in their favor?
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
281 days ago
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Must I explain EVERYTHING to you?

Salaries are down and the Rays have chips to deal with... Plus it's not hard to envision their attendance increaasing due to the recent success and hope for the near future, is it? Why do you think Burrell fell into their lap in the first place - especially at a price that would have been inconcievable just two years ago??

He didn't take an Erin Andrews discount...

Ask the remaining Free Agents where the big money is this year.
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JuTMSY4Legend
281 days ago
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Really controlled the yankees spending didn't it...

To think the Rays are somehow impervious to this economic downturn is kind of ridiculous...

I'd argue for each new tampa butt in a seat, they'll be one less because they'd rather not drop 30 bucks to watch a baseball game...

I don't see tampa going on an FA bonanza any time soon...
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
281 days ago
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It's not about signing free agents - did you read my comment - they will make MOVES.

They CAN afford to pick up salary more than other teams because they have been so prudent in the past.

Stu Sternberg isn't hurting for cash.


And who have the Yankees signed this week? And did they overpay? No, they got a pretty harsh discount that will set the tone of the rest of the market until next FA season.

Big money players will always get big money right? Gee, ask Manny Ramirez...

When salaries go down, ALL teams are helped... but MORESO the teams collecting the most revenue dollars from the Yankees, nes pas? (See: KC Royals shopping receipts this winter)
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Falcon02520Legend
281 days ago
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Ups and downs? So far it was all downs until last season. That makes one up... which will stay up for a long time...
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
281 days ago
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Many of the current Rays players had "ups" together during their time at AA Montgomery and AAA Durham...
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JuTMSY4Legend
281 days ago
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salary dumps? I still don't see it
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
281 days ago
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Great point.
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JuTMSY4Legend
281 days ago
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What magical moves are they going to make...

You have to ask yourself...did they get better?

And I bet wall streeter Sternberg is hurting...

Salaries may go down, but when you're competing your smaller bucks with other teams proportionally smaller bucks, its going to all even out...
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
281 days ago
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Did they get better? Yes. ABSOLUTELY without a doubt. BJ Upton had surgery to fix the shoulder he played with hurt all season. Carl Crawford should play a full season. David Price is QUITE an upgrade over Edwin Jackson in the rotation, Pat Burrell should easily surpass Cliff Floyd and Eric Hinske's production -don't you think? - and experience counts...

Let's not forget that most of this team still has their "prime" years AHEAD of them...

Sternberg was in corporate mergers, acquisitions and reorganizations, not stock or option investing - a slight distance from "Wall St."

No matter what revenues are - paying $3-4 million for a player that would have normally cost $6-10 mil benefits the small teams MORE - again, follow the bouncing ball called "revenue sharing". They can now afford guys they previously could NOT.

It's not about the differences in money coming in - sure, every team is "hurting" (as long as you believe that crock of shit), it's what's going out that is leveling the "paying" field.
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JuTMSY4Legend
281 days ago
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ot_296783_cass_rays_10.jpg phillies_1017611c.jpg
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
281 days ago
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Mitch Williams yawns for thee... How 'bout them Eagles?
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JuTMSY4Legend
281 days ago
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to quote a cardinals fan on AGM... "It's Irreversible"
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JuTMSY4Legend
281 days ago
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Anyway...in January of 2008, did you ever expect a Phillies fan would be talking trash to a Rays fan about the World Series? Then again, the President it a black man...so I guess you can believe anything...
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
281 days ago
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I would believe anything if the president was a black WOMAN... Yes, we can... but SHE sure as hell can't, eh?
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JuTMSY4Legend
281 days ago
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hey, 3 of the last 4 Secretaries of State have been women...

And one of those was a black women...


Besides, wait till Condi rises to the most powerful position in the US...


NFL Commish
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
281 days ago
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hmmm... "women".... "secretaries".... yeah, that IS a real stretch off the imagination and so socially progressive of us, huh, Jut?
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JuTMSY4Legend
281 days ago
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now that was a wasteful comment
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
281 days ago
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Somewhere, deep in the woods a fox just smelled its own hole... Oddly enough, the pot could not be reached for comment.
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JuTMSY4Legend
281 days ago
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well, 6,000 more to go, I suppose...
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
281 days ago
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When you wake up from that illustrious dream, I'll remind you it's only 240 by any count of relevance...
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JuTMSY4Legend
281 days ago
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you're right, 240 useless articles to go...

what about useless words?

you must have me beat by sextuple digits
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
281 days ago
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It must be windy where you're at today... You're feeling brave. Or have you been waiting around holding it all in the last two months for me to show up to join your fabulous pissing contest? Nice chatting with you, I'm gonna get back to the more important stuff... clipping my toenails and building miniature replicas of Ansel Adams pictures with them.
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JuTMSY4Legend
281 days ago
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not bravery, not holding it in...

you're the one who started the barbs with me...

I'm sorry I disagree...perhaps I should work on that next time?
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
281 days ago
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Great point.

Not useless at all... pointless? Absolutely. But I found a wonderful use anyway... I'll print it out and put it in my scrapbook of life's achievements. Right next to my certificate of certificate making.

After all, I started it... nanny nanny goo goo.
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Falcon02520Legend
281 days ago
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WHOA! Hold up! The President of the United States is black? I'm crawling back into my hole...


Actually he is only half black, but that is besides the point. I'd rather say he is our first Hawaiian President...
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