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"I'm Done Throwing Interceptions Now," The Final Chapter (I hope) of The Brett Favre Story

by Mid-Atlantic Bias
created March 05, 2008, last edited February 10, 2009
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Brett Favre is not and never was, to me, a great quarterback. He was, by all accounts, a good guy who had saved himself from drug addiction and turned himself into a very successful NFL Quarterback. Favre will forever be linked to Green Bay, Wisconsin, and it's ironic because he is a Southern Mississippi native. For no other NFL Quarterback did the term "gunslinger" apply more poetically. Favre's arm was always more cannon than arm. He was notorious for throwing with such force that receivers' fingers would literally break or sprain. Favre had those Hollywood moments, like the Monday Night Football game a few years ago where he threw 4 TD the day after his father died. He never played with an elite receiver. He never really had an elite running back. And he played forever.

Brett Favre is the owner of most of the important career passing records in the NFL. This is because he played forever, on one team, and, essentially ran it. Favre had more control over not just the Packers, but the city of Green Bay and perhaps the state of Wisconsin than any other athlete. More than Jordan did on Chicago. Or Magic in LA. Marino in Miami. Even Bird in Boston. If you are from Wisconsin, whether you like football or not, Brett Favre is your hero. This is made even more apparent when Favre retires a week after the free agency period began, seemingly oblivious to the fact that the Green Bay Packers had more to do than worry about what Brett Favre was doing.

In a crucial situation, Brett Favre would inevitably throw an interception by trying too hard. Look at the Giants game this postseason, Or the 4th and 26 game against the Eagles when he threw a floating balloon up in the air for the Eagles' secondary. Favre threw 288 interceptions in his career. To this point, Tom Brady, in 7 years as a starting quarterback, has 86. If you took Brett Favre's best 7 seasons (lowest interception total), you still end up with 83 INT. Take his first 7 years starting and he compiles a total of 116 INT.

My point in this interception talk and the comparison to Tom Brady is because Favre and Brady are the two most revered quarterbacks of my generation. No one talked about Dan Marino as much because he never won a Super Bowl and only played in one, very early in his career. Joe Montana won, but those who really follow sports know that Joe Montana isn't exactly a heart-warming person. Peyton Manning is hated as much as he's revered. On the other hand, Brady and Favre are the glamour quarterbacks and couldn't be any more different. Brady is a well-spoken California boy, who played big-time college football, and won 3 Super Bowls in his first 5 years. Then you have Favre, a spokesman for Wrangler Jeans who speaks with a southern drawl, played college football in Hattiesburg, Mississippi, and won only one Super Bowl in his career in a town tucked away in lower Canada.

The sports world will weep today at the loss of Favre. I will not. My conception that Favre was a jerk was struck down a few years ago when I met a former teammate of Favre's in Green Bay and he told me that he had feared the same before meeting him, but that he was a great guy and a great teammate: very family focused and very determined to win. I will never criticize Favre for his drug problem at the beginning of his career. I will criticize him for being undeservedly heralded as a big-game quarterback (1 Super Bowl victory, 2 appearances), for his statement when the Packers drafted Aaron Rodgers that he was not there to teach Rodgers anything, and his constant drawn out, "will I retire?" show every offseason the past half decade.

I guess Favre gets more than just a paragraph. He will be remembered, incorrectly, as the greatest quarterback of all time. He was this: A quarterback, who played for a long time, and built up huge career numbers, all across the board, including the bad stats, while only winning one Super Bowl. If he wasn't a good story for white people, he would have been forgotten long ago. I guess the moral of the story is that, if you're white, and you have an "every man" way about you, you will be loved by the American media, so long as you live cleanly and admit your mistakes.

Perhaps Roger Clemens should read this.


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Simms1156Div-I Stud
635 days ago
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You my friend, are an idiot
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JuTMSY4Legend
635 days ago
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glad you could contribute so politely to this new user...

please see bobbyjim's comment...its probably what you were thinking, but stated so much more eloquently...

Bj, you've been on fire today ; - )
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Bobbyjim45Draft Pick
635 days ago
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Fetch me a pail of water :)
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Simms1156Div-I Stud
635 days ago
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Lots of players play for long period of time and dont put up numbers even similar to Favre. And why must you make this into a race issue, why cant we just look at him as a great qb regardless of what color he was.
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Bobbyjim45Draft Pick
635 days ago
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I agree, I don't think the race comment was really appropriate.
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JuTMSY4Legend
635 days ago
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whoops...didn't see that... good point guys
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Bobbyjim45Draft Pick
635 days ago
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I gave you a vote because you backed up your opinion well, but I simply don't agree at all. I wouldn't label Favre the greatest of all-time, but he's definitely top 5. You must have never seen the guy play because he was truly a joy to watch.
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Simms1156Div-I Stud
635 days ago
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Yea at first I just called the poster an idiot and I apologize for that. I realized that he actually backed his opinion up and thats why I gave a somewhat articulate response.
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CheezerAll-Star
635 days ago
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Thanks guys. You express my thoughts very well. I can't say anything as I will be perceived as a homer. I have a million thoughts to add, but in my mind this article is inflammatory and is posted simply to bait people. I checked out the blog. A good writer, but the other posts are equally as inflammatory.
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Yakob878MVP
635 days ago
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nice to see you joined th site (I recrutied him) :)
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RomiezzoLegend
635 days ago
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Nice job Yakob... and of course, Mid-Atlantic Bias.
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CheezerAll-Star
635 days ago
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Good recruiting Yakob.
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SSreportersLegend
635 days ago
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I will criticize him for being undeservedly heralded as a big-game quarterback (1 Super Bowl victory, 2 appearances)

Have you ever considered that maybe the defense had some difficulties? I'm pretty sure it wasn't Favre's fault that Terell Davis ripped that Packer defense a new asshole in Super Bowl XXXII.

And bringing up the race card....why?
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Simms1156Div-I Stud
635 days ago
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In case I did not make my first apology clear I was sorry, I posted the first one in haste after reading the article title.
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JuTMSY4Legend
635 days ago
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And as far as this race issue...look, i'll take this...

Donovan McNabb has the potential to make it into the hall, i'd say a few more years of 2004-esque production and an SB cements it...but moreover, that's a long shot...

Brett Favre has already done that my friend...and if you think it has anything to do with race, you're misinformed...
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Simms1156Div-I Stud
635 days ago
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The thing that bothers me is that I feel that bringing up race in any argument provides the potential to cheapen any individuals accomplishments. I thoroughly believe that if Brett Favre was black he would be just as loved by INTELLIGENT fans as he is now.
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JuTMSY4Legend
635 days ago
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Well, he meets my criteria:

Winner - check

Hard worker - check

Gets it done - check

Doesn't give up - check

Gives it his all - check (and he's got that stats for that too...256 straight games worth)
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Sd superbowlVarsity
634 days ago
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Amen!!!
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Tyrone BriggsHall of Famer
635 days ago
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Well I'm not white (and a Chicago Bears fan at that) and greatly respect Brett Favre's career along with how he overcame personal adversity and tragedy.

The man showed up everyday for work and put on his uniform with pride.

Damn straight that is worth respect.

And welcome to the 'Chair.
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Ccampbell34All-American
634 days ago
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Favre might crack the top ten but the same gutsy play that earned him his respect ultimately hurt him. Mid-Atlantic Bias has a point with the interceptions and hurt Favre from being a perennial all pro. Favre was, for the most part, consistant, but only in a few of his seasons did he truly put of better numbers than the rest of the field.
Favre is what football should be about, giving your all, but his execution was not that of a top five quarterback of all-time. Due to the fact that most football fans have only witnessed a portion of NFL history and never saw greats like Unitas, Graham, Baugh, Luckman and Starr, it is inevitable he will be considered a top 5 quarterback by most of the population.
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Tyrone BriggsHall of Famer
634 days ago
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Goes with the territory when you a Wrangler tough.... and Scrappy!
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CheezerAll-Star
634 days ago
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Now I chime in.

I'm not gonna talk about top five of all time, because with the changing teams, rules, etc. it is virtually impossible to compare eras.

I want to talk about the Brady comparison.

Not only did Favre have more interceptions than Brady over the first seven years of his career (the timespan proposed by Bias), he also had more attempts, more completions, and more TDs. He had a lower completion percentage though.

In fact, not to be revisionist, but Brady's stats are helped tremendously by his 2007 season where he exceeded his previous career bests by 22TDs and 800 yards. This past season was incredibly outside the norm for Brady.

What Bias is doing is called "Cherry Picking Statistics". That is when you only include the statistics that support your argument and you discount the other statistics.
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JuTMSY4Legend
634 days ago
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CCampbell, where's Marino fit on your top 10?
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Ccampbell34All-American
634 days ago
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I'd have to put a lot of work into compiling a top 25 let alone top 10 which now I'm considering doing. Marino and Favre differed slightly in QB rating and INT percentage and both were All Pros 7 out of approximently 16 seasons. Both were blessed with exceptional wide receivers. Right now I think I would give Favre the edge between the two for his ability to lead a team in crunch time but honestly it could go either way.
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Frank StevensonRed-Shirting
634 days ago
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I miss you Brett! Screw Tom Brady. Screw Tony Romo. Brett was the best... and now he's gone.... just like dust in the wind.... you're my boy Brett! Sniff... you're my boy! cranshaw.jpg
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