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Are they still athletes?

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by user Jamel

"You take showers together, you're on the bus, you talk about things. With teammates, you have to be trustworthy. If you're gay and you're not admitting that you are, you're not trustworthy. It's the locker room code."   LeBron James.

 

When you think of an athlete you think of a man with a capital "M". Strong, powerful, muscular...womanizer. When I think of a star athlete I think of a person like Kobe Bryant,  A-Rod, Michael Jordan, perhaps even Brian Urlacher. But do you think of people like Derrick Paterson, Justin Fashanu, Magic Johnson, Alex Rodriguez, Barry Bonds?

Chicago Bulls player Dennis Rodman acknowledged "many homosexual aspects of sports" in his 1996 memoir, Bad As I Wanna Be. "Watch any football game. What's the first thing guys do when they win a big game? They hug each other. What does a baseball manager do when he takes his pitcher out? He takes the ball and pats him on the ass…Man hugs man. Man pats man on ass. Man whispers in man's ear and kisses him on the cheek. This is classic homosexual or bisexual behavior," Rodman says.

Rodman became the first active black professional athlete to acknowledge a same-sex attraction in a 1995 Sports Illustrated article, where he said he "fantasized" about being with another man. Although he parties at gay clubs, paints his fingernails, colors his hair, and sometimes wears women's clothes, Rodman says he is not homosexual. "I'm not gay," he said in his book. "I would tell you if I was. If I go to a gay bar, that doesn't mean that I want another man to put his tongue down my throat -- no. It means I want to be a whole individual." Rodman added, "mentally, I probably am bisexual."

Rodman is easily dismissed. "Dennis Rodman was a clown," said Cyd Zeigler, president of Outsports.com. "He was a caricature. . . . He became so much more than his race or his sexuality or his sex." According to Zeigler, the public would react to Rodman's words and antics as publicity stunts. "That's just Dennis Rodman," they would say. "Him being gay or bisexual is completely safe for people," Zeigler added.

Even when athletes do engage in homosexual behavior, it doesn't mean they're homosexual. Homosexuality and homoeroticism have played a role in sports for decades, but seldom is it labeled gay. Phil Petrie, a college athlete at Tennessee State in the 1950's, recalls that "it was common for athletes to, in effect, sell themselves... to have sex for men." Petrie, now married with children, remembers football players who talked about "packing shit" or receiving oral sex, but the athletes did not consider their actions to be homosexual. Instead, it was a business transaction between cash-strapped athletes and men who wanted to have them. "If you have a group of people who are considered desirable, and you live in a capitalistic society, can you get them with money?" Petrie asked. "And the answer is you can get some." Still, "many of the athletes do not see someone paying them to have oral sex with them . . .as a homosexual act," Petrie said.

So what's going on in sports today? Men giving men oral sex, men doing steroids, penis' shrinking, Nazi's ruining baseball, Canadians.

So what do you think? What makes an athlete an athlete?

 

Jamel Bryant

 


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JuTMSY4Legend
931 days ago
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First of all Jamel this article is commendable...well done...
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Anonymous Fanatic #1
931 days ago
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How fast do you read? So what do you think?
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JuTMSY4Legend
931 days ago
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Well, I'd be lying if I said that in high school I wouldn't have been weirded out by a gay person on my team...that's the truth...and assuming that mentality, to some extent, would carry over to the pros, baseball, hockey and some basketball namely (since many athletes go from high school to the pros) I can certainly understand how people might be scared, confused, angry, etc...

Lebron is right, its not a secret you should keep, but only in an ideal world...sure lebron's fine with it (I assume), but are the rest of the cavs (do they matter?)...what about other teams...what if, say, shaq hates gay people, etc, the effect on the team would be bad...

This type fo sports paradiam is a solid representation of inner america (a truer one, as it were)...and no homosexuality is neither accepted or really understood...

With that said, my opinion, or how i would handle it (i would hope), really wouldn't have a bearing on a man's preference...but I don't think i'd be terribly interested in what he does, or at least as much as a straight man (we'd talk differently, that's the truth)...

Its easy for me to tell professional athletes to accept gay people, work with them, etc and wholly different for me to do...I do work with gay people and I have yet to really have a problem, but it does change the way i act (good or bad)...and yet that's different...

Homosexuality shouldn't effect the athlete paradiam, yet it does...but I do not think it should make the athlete because sports, if all else, is the essence of a meritocracy (or so we believe).
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JuTMSY4Legend
931 days ago
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sorry, that was lengthy...
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
931 days ago
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"Homosexuality shouldn't effect the athlete paradiam" Jut, It shouldn't affect ANY paradigm... the problem is there are more ignorant and closed minded people every day unwilling to learn and understand things that are different from themselves. Ignorance drives fear and fear drives ignorance.
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JamelAll-American
931 days ago
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Vicious cycle- kind of like my circle jerk
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
931 days ago
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Athletes are just people playing a game for a job. Otherwise they are just like you and me when it comes to human graces.

Sexuality is user defined. What is "sexy"? - something different to everyone.

I guess there's a point you're making somewhere in here? But I'm not sure how being gay makes someone an un-athlete...
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JuTMSY4Legend
931 days ago
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I think his point is that being a gay ahtlete in a "straight athlete's world," vis a vis Timmy Hardaway, suggests that the gay athlete is indeed, less of a man because he is gay and doesn't desire women, etc...
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Anonymous Fanatic #1
931 days ago
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So what do you think is "sexy" Manny-- wouldn't you be upset if were taking a shower with a dude and he got a boner?
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IlliniEdVarsity
931 days ago
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Kind of flattered I bet. Besides Jamel, it would give you a place to hang a towel.
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Anonymous Fanatic #1
931 days ago
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I once was on a hockey team that as a rookie we had an initiation thing- we had to go in a circle and jerk off onto a piece of bread-- last person had to eat it-- is that gay?
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JuTMSY4Legend
931 days ago
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Isn't that supposed to be a cookie and the game is called Ookie Cookie...
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Anonymous Fanatic #1
931 days ago
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Have you played before-- when i did I placed in the middle but really had a hard time getting off- I dreamt of Pamela Anderson-- anyway, I puked when I had to see the guy eat it
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Anonymous Fanatic #1
931 days ago
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So Ed you would be flattered if I guy saw you naked and he got a boner?? Really-- I would kick his ass
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JuTMSY4Legend
931 days ago
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Can't say I've ever played...i guess I'll just miss out...
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
931 days ago
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Unfortunately, I am married so "sexy" is no longer is a factor in my life.

Would an androgenous person turn you on Jamel? Believe it or not... There are PLENTY of people who take time from their day to escape the trappings of the lizard brain and think about things OTHER than sex (in ANY of it's forms).

Being that I had a gay brother, a gay roommate in college and several gay and lesbian friends (until I think about it, I just usually think of them as "People") and was sexually abused when I was young, maybe my opinion is skewed... after fear and ignorance, WHAT is left but fact, understanding and knowledge...

I used to think of gay men as similar to fugly women.
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Anonymous Fanatic #1
931 days ago
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Ju-- you, manny, FP, and some others could all get in a circle right now and pretend to play
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
931 days ago
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OK, see where your going here... but what's in it for us?
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IlliniEdVarsity
931 days ago
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I dont know if I would be flattered or not. Persoanlly at this point I think if anyone found me attractive I would be happy. Dont get compliments very often.
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Anonymous Fanatic #1
931 days ago
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Manny- you are married and you don't think of sex all the time- don't tell me you are still getting laid by your wife-- dude, getting married is simply just to get her off your back about it, have meals prepared for you, and for clean laundry-- that's what "business trips" are for- to get laid
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Tyrone BriggsHall of Famer
931 days ago
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Erik Kombol just HATES IT when HIS PERSONAL LIFE is mentioned on a sports blog.
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JamelAll-American
931 days ago
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Manny I'm so sorry you were sexually abused as a child- must be ruff- is that why you are such a dick?
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
931 days ago
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Jamel, I can count all the people in the world that think I'm a dick on one hand (I'm the thumb, and I guess you're the pinky) And I had it easier than alot of people. I was able to accept that it wasn't my fault. (and learned how to avoid it in the future)
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JamelAll-American
931 days ago
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I'm sorry. I didn't mean it. So who abused you? If you are a man and you abuse another man or you homosexual? (and I am not at all implying that all homosexuals molest little kids)
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
931 days ago
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Maybe it's just me, but I don't know very many people that WEREN'T abused in some way as a kid... (not counting the number of people that refuse to admit it)

I was 8 and was in an not-knowing-any-better way was coerced into things I knew nothing about by my neighbors' cousin who was 15 or 16 and stayed part of the summer next door. Then I was forced to repeat it or else he was going to get me in trouble...

Again, it could have been worse. It wasn't someone confidable - a relative of mine, or my Dad, a teacher or a priest... I wasn't beaten and raped, for instance... needless to say, I will make sure something similar doesn't happen to my kids.

So am I gay for performing gay acts I didn't know was gay until later? Not that I care...

Are you gay when you masturbate?
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JamelAll-American
931 days ago
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I don't think I'm gay when I masturbate unless I am thinking about a dude while I do it-- then I'd be gay. Usually when I masturbate I like to get all comfortable, have some wine, go to GOTD and whack one off to a nice big breasted women. So no, I don't think masturbating and touching yourself would make you gay; however, if I masturbated FP that would make me gay. So, did you ever go back and kick that kids ass for what he did to you?
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Tyrone BriggsHall of Famer
931 days ago
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Remember when ArmchairGM was about SPORTS and NOT a gay abuse support center?
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JamelAll-American
931 days ago
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Wowwwwwwwww-- harsh dude- come on this is like therapy. And we are discussing sports so back the (I'm going to say it) fuck off Tyrone. NOW APOLOGIZE!
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
931 days ago
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Fair enough... Wine? Are you a chardonnay guy or a pink champale guy?

Kick his ass? Why? That would go against everything I believe. Not everything is "good" or "bad"

Yeah it was bad what he did to me, but good that I learned how to avoid worse. It was good that I understood this was something that was done TO me, but was not my fault, I didn't deserve it nor does it make me who I am. granted, I am a twisted individual, but there's a lot of other things that caused that...

You can only do ONE thing about the past - change your attitude towards it. (in the 25 years since, I've done just that)

I'm sure kharma has found it's way back around on him... balancing kharma isn't always my job. I wouldn't know him if I saw him anyway...
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Tyrone BriggsHall of Famer
931 days ago
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Oh alright Jamel, I suppose it would make me gay if I did not apologize to you. Continue right along with your gay sex abuse therapy sessions here at ArmchairGM.
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JamelAll-American
931 days ago
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Hey Manny so what did he make you do? Did you have to give him oral sex? Like on the Shield- Acevada- he had to give the guy head or he would shoot him-- I don't know as a grown man I would rather die- I just couldn't do it. Man, I feel sorry for you dude. I forgive you, this explains so much. Anyway, Vick is going to use the picture of Acevada giving the guy head to keep his job.
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Tyrone BriggsHall of Famer
931 days ago
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Jamel, I think you need to ask False Prophet for answers to your questions.
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IlliniEdVarsity
931 days ago
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I cant say that I have ever rad or heard about athletes trying to sell sexual favors to get through school. Interesting. This is by far the most eliquent article you have written so far that I know of. Well done. Dont know how to take it but well written.
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Anonymous Fanatic #1
931 days ago
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What I am trying to get at is two things: 1) If you are gay do you have to tell people on your team or is it no ones business 2) If you are gay are you still a man 3) Did Nazi ruin baseball?
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JuTMSY4Legend
931 days ago
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I believe that they are responsible for hurting part of Joe D's and Ted Williams career...so yes...

IMO, you are a man regardless of sexual preference, i really don't care...

I'm not really sure of my opinion about being out...thats a very difficult situation...I don't really care one way or another...but the effect on a team as a whole...people react to things differently, have different beliefs, etc...
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IlliniEdVarsity
931 days ago
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Yes, Marge Schott ruined baseball.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
931 days ago
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but Nazr Mohhamed saved basketball!!! from going out of bounds (once)...
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JamelAll-American
931 days ago
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Please explain
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Clayton St. John Smythe Esq.Varsity
931 days ago
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Nice to have you officially aboard Ed. I just knew a discussion of gays in sports would be precisely what it would take for you to finally sign up!
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JuTMSY4Legend
931 days ago
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This is also a tricky situation because homosexuality is so much...more than a lot of other types of discrimination... Not to mention the negative connotation involved (and if you don't believe this exists, you are foolish)
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Anonymous Fanatic #1
931 days ago
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I don't know-- real men like Kobe- you know a guy who cheats on his wife, sleeps with lots of chicks-- he's pretty cool-- he resembled what an "athlete" is to me
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Tyrone BriggsHall of Famer
931 days ago
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Barry Bonds is a "real man" as well. However, the benefits of having a mistress might be a double-edge sword since she ratted him out to the feds.
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Anonymous Fanatic #1
931 days ago
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Bonds isn't a man because you does steroids which shrinks his balls--- real men want big balls-- even if it does make their penis look smaller-- Plus, no thoughts on how Nazi's ruined baseball- I thought you would love this conversation
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JuTMSY4Legend
931 days ago
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To reiterate above... I believe that they are responsible for hurting parts of Joe D's and Ted Williams career...so yes...
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JamelAll-American
931 days ago
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How did the Nazi's do this? Aren't a lot of Nazi's gay?
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JuTMSY4Legend
931 days ago
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Nazis, world war 2, and joe and ted served...therefore, they are responsible...
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JamelAll-American
931 days ago
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I hate Nazi's- nothing much cool about them-- but didn't the Nazi's create Steroids which improved baseball as we know it today? So really shouldn't we love Nazi's?
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Tyrone BriggsHall of Famer
931 days ago
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Wasn't Max Schmeling a Nazi who fought Joe Louis? Does that mean he was gay also?
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JamelAll-American
931 days ago
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No fighting a gay guy doesn't make you gay-- in fact it makes you more of a man-- oops, I didn't mean it like that- I'm sorry, I mean people who fight other people are cool and manly-- are their any gay boxers?
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Tyrone BriggsHall of Famer
931 days ago
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I kind of had my suspicions about that chick in Million Dollar Baby...
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JamelAll-American
931 days ago
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She's not gay-- plus girls being gay are cool- dudes aren't.
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Tyrone BriggsHall of Famer
931 days ago
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Rosie O'Donnell's gayness is cool? I think not.
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JamelAll-American
931 days ago
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Rosie isn't a woman- she's a crab person-
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Clayton St. John Smythe Esq.Varsity
931 days ago
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Yeah they tried that years ago with the Jeffersons...
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Tyrone BriggsHall of Famer
931 days ago
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Does that make Rosie O'Donnell the most hideous despised lesbian of all-time or does that title still belong to Hillary?
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Tyrone BriggsHall of Famer
931 days ago
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So I guess the consensus here is that figure skaters and members of the LPGA are indeed ATHLETES.
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Anonymous Fanatic #1
931 days ago
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Lesbians??? When did they come into this column-- I wasn't talking about Lesbians- I love lesbians who like to have threesomes-- lesbians are cool-- Figure skaters-- first off figure skating isn't a sport-- no sport- no athlete-- sorry gay figure skaters are entertainers not athletes-
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JamelAll-American
931 days ago
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Nobody wants to talk about lesbians??? What the hell! All women athletes are lesbians except cheerleaders and gymnastic chicks-- man, have I ever banged a lot of cheerleaders and gymnists in my time- Hey, would any straight dude ever be a gymnist? or a cheerleader? or even a figureskater?
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Clayton St. John Smythe Esq.Varsity
931 days ago
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When I was in highschool in Nebraska, the captain of the basketball used to adjust his balls alot, even when he was in the shower. People would whisper about him being a "gay homosexual fag" but it didn't really matter because he still saved his scoring for the court and there was this other dude who was totally femme that the captain would pick on, snapping him in the ass with wet towels, putting his turds in the guy's locker, blowing kisses at him from across the lockeroom, etc.

Anyways, it turned out the captain of the bball team came out several years ago and tracked the guy down through myspace and now they live in Canada and are married and have gay sex all the time.

But I'm not sure either of them are athletes anymore. Maybe Greco-Roman wrestlers or Bear fighters. I don't know the whole story...
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JamelAll-American
931 days ago
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Yeah, I heard that most of Canada is gay- especially in Quebec-- I also heard that a lot of ex gay athletes who have AIDS due to taking steroids and having anal intercourse move to Canada- But yeah I totally believe that most people who make fun of fags are infact fags- is it okay to use the word "fags"
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Tyrone BriggsHall of Famer
931 days ago
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Not according to Jay Mariotti.
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JamelAll-American
931 days ago
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Yeah but isn't Jay Mariotti gay? Seriously, look at the guy-- any guy who has a hair cut like his, gets his eyebrows waxed, etc etc is gay! Ask Manny, he says he has a lot of gay friends- I bet all of them get waxed and stuff- even down there- but then again, that would make your penis look bigger-- anyway, Jay is Gay
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Tyrone BriggsHall of Famer
931 days ago
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Well, that was indeed Ozzie Guillen's inference. And do not forget that Ozzie did explain that he has multitudes of gay friends so pointing one out should not be a problem for him.
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JamelAll-American
931 days ago
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So is this why Jay Mariotti won't go into a locker room- because he is gay and as Ju said he should tell the players he is gay when he takes a shower with them?
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JuTMSY4Legend
931 days ago
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I never said that...
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Tyrone BriggsHall of Famer
931 days ago
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Jay Mariotti is very scared to be outed in the clubhouse. And he is afraid to have his feelings hurt if rejected by the ballplayers.
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Clayton St. John Smythe Esq.Varsity
931 days ago
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let's just say that Jay Mariotti sympathizes more with Barrett than Zambrano, if you know what I mean...
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JamelAll-American
931 days ago
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Ju what didn't you say??? Plus, I heard that Jay has a cabana boy named Paco- anyone else know of him?
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JuTMSY4Legend
931 days ago
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I said i didn't know...
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JuTMSY4Legend
931 days ago
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my exact words were: I'm not really sure of my opinion about being out...thats a very difficult situation...I don't really care one way or another...but the effect on a team as a whole...people react to things differently, have different beliefs, etc... "
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JamelAll-American
931 days ago
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Yeah but I don't think IF YOU have to tell people you are gay if you are on a sports team- or is it just because you take showers together- isnt' that kind of gay?? Like why do locker rooms have OPEN showers- I don't want to see everyone's dicks hanging out like elephant trunks-- white canadian men have the smallest dicks ever thou-- anyway, we can't there be seperate shower stalls with curtains-- now, if I was a coach of a womans soccer team or even better beach volleyball team open showers would be a must-- woowwwweee-- anyway, so Ju what you are saying is that due to having OPEN showers and in case a gay man gets a boner looking at you because you are so sexy he would have to tell you but if the locker room had closed individual showers he wouldn't-- confusing
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Tyrone BriggsHall of Famer
931 days ago
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Tim Hardaway must have been a victim of such a scenario you just mentioned to elicit such an emotional outburst over this issue.
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JamelAll-American
931 days ago
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You think that's why Tim hates gay people? Because you is a victim like Manny?
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JamelAll-American
931 days ago
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I know we have a lot of athletes here-- so did you guys have to undergo any type of initiation that was kind of gay? Like my circle jerk bread/oreo thing- Please share- Tyrone I know you were an athlete- same with Ed- probably not Manny though- he just writes about wanting to play sports
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Clayton St. John Smythe Esq.Varsity
931 days ago
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I played soccer and wrestled in middle school and highschool and I guess those are kind of gay sports (and there were definitely some gaywads on our teams) but we didn't really do any group gay things. Sometimes wrestling I would punch or elbow my oppenent in the balls, and we would kick eachother in the balls (if we were wearing cups) during down times at soccer practice. But I don't think that's really gay...
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
931 days ago
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Good one... *yawn* What sports do you play, Jamel? I'm guessing from your "Old_School"_Sports! Phallic infatuations it's pocketball? One Eyed Joust? Knuckle Shuffling? Toss and catch?
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JamelAll-American
931 days ago
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Sorry Manny, I guess playing football, hockey, lacrosse, rugby, some basketball, some baseball, doesn't count-- perhaps you would like to share
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JuTMSY4Legend
931 days ago
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Ya Clayton, we used to do the same during baseball season...
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JamelAll-American
931 days ago
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Clayton you played soccer??? My wife played soccer and trys to tell me it's a sport- I told her only chicks and fags play. I also didn't wrestle because my nuts looked so big in spandex that it was an easy target for cheaters like you-
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JamelAll-American
931 days ago
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I worked in a restaurant and we use to play "bag tag"-- you hit the guy in the nuts and he's it-- its really funny when you have a whole tray of glasses and you can't drop them-- So, does this mean we are all gay?
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Tyrone BriggsHall of Famer
931 days ago
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Yes, it means you are gay Jamel.
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Clayton St. John Smythe Esq.Varsity
931 days ago
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Now a couple of weeks ago at jiu jitsu this guy tried to put his thumb in my butt to make me give up an kimora and that's pretty f***king gay. I don't think I will be pulling any of those downtown brown tricks on anybody. And soccer isn't really a gay sport, but it has no place in America. Let those ponces in Europe kick balls into nets is what I say.
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JamelAll-American
931 days ago
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I once accidently stuck my thumb up a guys butt playing rugby-- the scrum thing is kind of gay- I usually avoid it. Wow, I never knew I was gay until now. But I really really like women- do you think I'm bisexual like Rodman?
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Tyrone BriggsHall of Famer
931 days ago
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Soccer sure seems gay according to this video: http://youtu...=NpxRmxbCZfo
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Clayton St. John Smythe Esq.Varsity
931 days ago
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wow, he's like a Gayzelle!
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JamelAll-American
931 days ago
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Tyrone have you not learned anything from my column-- all sports have gay people in it- even football-- yes, some have more than others (like soccer) but gay people are everywhere- probably a gay person right beside you now
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
931 days ago
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'right beside' or "inside"?
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JamelAll-American
931 days ago
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Good one Manny-- boi yeah-- I'm starting to see that Tyrone is kind of a dick-- I'm sorry Manny- I have been rather mean to you-- can we be BFFs in a non-gay kind of way
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Anonymous Fanatic #1
931 days ago
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I must admit that Erik is very courageous to be so open about the inner demons of his youth.
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JamelAll-American
931 days ago
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I agree with that-- no way in hell would I share that if it happened to me-- Manny you should go across country telling your story-- you beat the odds dude-- educate people like Tyrone
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Tyrone BriggsHall of Famer
931 days ago
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The Erik Kombol Story does indeed deserve to be aired on an ESPN show such as OUTSIDE THE LINES or in the very least debated on Around the Horn. Gay Jay will clearly have the advantage on that discussion.
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JamelAll-American
931 days ago
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Tyrone I'm being serious right now- what's your problem-- if you were sexually abused I wouldnt' make fun at you? Have you no feelings? Are you the devil or something? DEVIL MAN DEVIL MAN!!!
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Tyrone BriggsHall of Famer
931 days ago
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The Devil - me? Of course not! I am just saying that the ENTIRE WORLD needs to hear the Erik Kombol story, not just ArmchairGM. That is all.
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JamelAll-American
931 days ago
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DEVIL MAN DEVIL MAN DEVIL MAN-- 666 Tyrone, 666-- probably have a big picture of the devil above your computer-- practice witch craft and play cast spells and stuff-- scary
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
931 days ago
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I'd like to hear the Tyrone Briggs "behind the facade" story - but it's probably just all petty jealousy, whiny boorish behavior and "STEROIDS KILL!!! YOU'RE A RACIST!!! I AM NOT A TEENAGER!!! STEROIDS KILL!!!" - a typical story of an uppidity son of a lawyer - you did say your Dad was a lawyer, right?
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Tyrone BriggsHall of Famer
931 days ago
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Nah, my dad wasn't a lawyer but he was hit over the head with a police batton during a civil rights march.
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JamelAll-American
931 days ago
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Oooo so your father sued the city and made tons of money because he was provoking the nice fine white police who were just doing their job and actually making the world a better place huh Tyrone

Devil man, devil man, devil man-

What did your dad do Manny??? Ooo sorry, you didnt' have one- I'm sorry- really I didn't mean it
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Tyrone BriggsHall of Famer
931 days ago
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Jamel, haven't you been paying attention? Erik just shared a very painful experience about what his father did.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
931 days ago
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Oh, I had a Dad, just not a Father... he was a barber. Where do you think I learned to banter? The Barbershop.
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JamelAll-American
931 days ago
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tyrone it wasn't his dad that did the molesting- don't you read you self absorbed prick?? I don't need you civil war, wang wang wang wang wang- damn GNR rocks for a white bandd
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Tyrone BriggsHall of Famer
931 days ago
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Why are men who are hair stylists called "gay" while men who are "barbers" considered pedophiles?
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JamelAll-American
931 days ago
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Hey are most sports celebrations kind of gay-- like why do you pat the other person on the ass? Why in hockey do you jump on each other in a big kind of man orgy? Why do you pick another man up in the air by the ass and hold him close? What are they constantly "spitting" out in baseball?
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JamelAll-American
931 days ago
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This is why I didn't wrestle- my bulge

http://www.y...=l_X_uSlvC_Q

Anyway, it looks like I am all by myself-- what should I do what should I do? I have about 5 extra minutes- maybe I'll go bust a nut off-- but remember- I will look at women when I do this not men-- I don't want to be labeled the "gay blogger"-- hey, if I sit at home all day and blog on a post while my wife is at work and pretend to watch my baby and go back and forth between armchair and other blogs and masturbate all day am I gay?
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
931 days ago
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I will say this, people who AREN'T gay don't wonder if they might be...
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JamelAll-American
931 days ago
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Damn, I thought you would say that-- so am I being gay right now? Which part is gayer? The sit at home, the blog all day, the pretend to watch my baby, or the masturbating part (I swear I look at chicks)?
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JamelAll-American
931 days ago
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Really????? So you know 100% that you aren't gay?? Sometimes I day dream about William Shatner- I don't know-- nothing sexual, just that we could be friends and hang out- maybe go play some golf, pat each other on the ass after a good put- have some beers, stuff like that-- But if I don't actually do anything gay I'm not gay right?
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Tyrone BriggsHall of Famer
931 days ago
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No, I think what Erik is saying to you Jamel is he is definitely 100% sure that he IS... well, ya know and not that there is anything wrong with that.
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JamelAll-American
931 days ago
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So if you are bisexual are you gay? or are you bisexual? Does gay mean only like the same sex? I'm all confused now- where's Manny? Ha Ha- I'm sure he's heard that before- I'm confused now where's Manny
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Anonymous Fanatic #2
931 days ago
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If your a dude and claim to be bisexual then your gay. If your a woman who expresses sexuality with other women and men then you are awesome and welcome to come over to my house and play.
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JamelAll-American
931 days ago
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What if you just want to witness another jerk off- like on South Park- 2 dudes in the hot tube- so is Randy gay??

Yeah, why is it that lesbians are so freakin cool but not the other way around--

I remember one of the many threesomes I have had-- anyway, these 2 chicks were amazing- first time they had fooled around with another girl- ignored me for over an hour but they couldn't resist coming back for a little Jam-Jam loving--- anyway, I also remember where a chick wanted to have a threesome with me and another dude-- I said okay at the beginning, then I beat the crap out of the other guy and did her by myself- ha ha- anyway...
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Clayton St. John Smythe Esq.Varsity
931 days ago
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Yeah, that's gay. And it's not a sport either. It's not even athletic. Unless it's a contest to see who skeets first?
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Tyrone BriggsHall of Famer
931 days ago
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Cyberporn doesn't count Jamel.
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JamelAll-American
931 days ago
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Tyrone just because I have slept with 100s of women, had a handful of girl-girl threesomes, don't hate the player. Jealous perhaps???
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Clayton St. John Smythe Esq.Varsity
931 days ago
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Wait, are you really THE Jamel Chamberlain? My lil baby cousin does have unexplained kinky hair for a Finn...
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JamelAll-American
931 days ago
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Ha ha ha-- yeah, he could be one of mine but I aint' doing any more paternity tests- a brother has to live you know? Already take 80% of my paycheck away
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Tyrone BriggsHall of Famer
931 days ago
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Well, I dunno if that is necessarily "gay", but it definitely ain't that manly.
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JamelAll-American
931 days ago
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Hey did you know this column is under GOOD STUFF or whatever it is- I'm honored. My writing will only continue to grow, you can count on it!!!
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Tyrone BriggsHall of Famer
931 days ago
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Yeah but what else has really been posted here today (except for NiteOwl's stuff which is actually an excellent baseball recap)?
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
931 days ago
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"but what else has really been posted here today" Either you're part of the solution or part of the problem, Champ
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Tyrone BriggsHall of Famer
931 days ago
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Hey, don't blame me for YOU stealing that bit about the damn hot dog contest.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
931 days ago
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Again with the blaming and the finger pointing...

What have you contributed to the situation? Mix in an article every now and then...

How do I STEAL my opinion? That's what it is, my opinion of an event that interests me that occurred just the other day mere miles from my humble abode... and I wanted to talk about it... where is the theft going on?
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Tyrone BriggsHall of Famer
931 days ago
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Nah, I meant the article itself Erik. And after all, that hot dog deal was already posted yesterday. DOUBLE POSTER! (check the front page) URL: http://armch...World_Record
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JamelAll-American
931 days ago
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Dude I'm trying to defend you Manny but you aren't making this easy-- what's so interesting about watching people shuv large quantities of hot dogs into their mouths-- dude if that isnt' the gayest thing i have ever seen i don't know what is? Plus you regurgitated an already existing thread.
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Tyrone BriggsHall of Famer
931 days ago
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Hey you got lay off Erik just a tad. Afterall, he is probably still exhausted from that STEROID thread.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
931 days ago
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Honestly, I didn't even see that article. Secondly, what I wrote about was totally different (since you never read what I write you wouldn't have noticed) - I wrotehyping up next month's event- and there's no rule about writing about the same topic/athlete/event or there would be NO articles to be written. EVERY SINGLE piece of sports knowledge you have was handed to you by someone else... (unless you were in the lockerroom/on the field) so when you regurgitate your "Sports Knowledge" wouldn't YOU be stealing - by YOUR all-things-in-Tyrone's-favor/"flip-floppin"/"fuzzy logic" definition. WHY WHY WHY must you be so bullheaded and beligerant? What do you want from me???
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Tyrone BriggsHall of Famer
931 days ago
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Hey relax there, I just stood up for you.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
931 days ago
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You are so gracious... *yawn*
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JamelAll-American
931 days ago
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Manny I do like you in a non-gay way but what's up with the * yawn *-- do you want me to write *scratch scratch* everytime I scratch my balls?
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
931 days ago
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I *yawn* when the thread bores me with utter insignificance. I WANT to banter and gab and yap about stuff and get pints and counterpoints exposed. But when it goes to the lower denominator and the intelligence deteriorates, I get BORED... Would you rather me just not say anything?
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Tyrone BriggsHall of Famer
931 days ago
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Actually yes.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
931 days ago
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It must be wonderful to live in Tyrone Brigg's world. You're right about everything, you can skew things people say to however you want them, totally revoke logic and reasonable conversation and eventually go around all day expressing your homophobia all while destroying the sanctity and bliss of a once-beaming quality sports wiki-site.
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JamelAll-American
931 days ago
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Holly crap to you see that post on that pole vaulter- if that doesn't turn you straight nothing will huh Manny--
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Tyrone BriggsHall of Famer
931 days ago
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Why is Erik Kombol sitting on an unattended thread here bitching about me when everyone else is over at Beast's most excellent post about Allison Stokke?
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Pnatt IIJV Squad
931 days ago
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I agree that this is a classic example of homophobia. Whilst I respect people's views whether they agree or disagree with homosexuality or not, it's pretty obvious that there's a growing trend of people who are overly cautious that their actions may be perceived as being gay or unmanly and doing what they can to be straight and manly.
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KelsdadAll-Star
931 days ago
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Hey, guys. Been gone since Friday afternoon, so, what's new?
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
931 days ago
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Yes... Yes it is... (nods and eyes to exit sign)
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Anonymous Fanatic #1
931 days ago
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Damn, you always have to flap your mouth off don't you-- hey is that your baby crying?? Ahhh, just shut the door and turn up the music-
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
931 days ago
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Yup, purdy much...
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Tyrone BriggsHall of Famer
931 days ago
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Hope you had a good weekend Kelsdad. You missed the bloodbath over Steroids but none of that really matters now. Go check out Beast's post on the lovely Allison Stokke and the rest is self-explanatory.
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KelsdadAll-Star
931 days ago
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I saw the Alison story, I'll try and find the steriod one. I'm not even going to bother reading this one.
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KelsdadAll-Star
931 days ago
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I saw..wow!
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TylersaltAll-Star
931 days ago
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What makes an athlete an athlete? Athletic ability. Nothing more, nothing less. None of this homophobic crap.
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JamelAll-American
929 days ago
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You live in ignorance- of course an athlete should only be judged on his/her athletic abilities but we don't live in that world- wake up
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