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Are the Phillies the Worst Franchise in Baseball History?

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by Tyduffy

The Philadelphia Phillies made history on Sunday, and not the good kind. With a fitting 10-2 drubbing at the hands of the St. Louis Cardinals, the Phils became the first franchise in the history of baseball to lose 10,000 games, flouting all previous touchstones of franchise futility. Their "accomplishment" begs the question, are the Phillies the worst franchise in baseball history?

Yes, they have been the worst, and by a long shot.

For the purposes of this analysis, only the original sixteen teams in existence at the beginning of the twentieth century should be relevant. The Rockies, Devil Rays, Padres, and Rangers all have lower winning percentages, but over much shorter sample sizes. The Devil Rays (10 years) and Rockies (15 year) should be thrown out immediately. The Padres (39 years) and the Rangers (47 years) have been around longer, but neither of them even half as long as the Phillies' 124 years. Even so, their winning percentages of .463 and .467 are not that much worse than the Phils' .468.

The first criterion of being declared the worst team of all time has to be that they have been the lowest of the low, and had some truly horrendous seasons. The Phillies have had many. In seasons with at least 140 games played, there have been 23 teams which have produced winning percentages of .300 or less in a single season. Nine of those 23 seasons were by the Philadelphia Phillies. For good measure, they have also had five other 100-loss seasons for a grand total of 14. In contrast, the "loveable losers" in Chicago have only had two 100-loss seasons. The Phillies have had more putrid seasons than any other club.

The second criterion should be a lack of accomplishments. The Phillies match-up here as well. From 1883-1975, the Phillies made exactly two playoff appearances (1915,1950). Ninety-two opportunities, two partial-successes. They have won one championship (1980), which took them 97 years. Since then, they have been working on another streak of 27 years. They had one very good stretch from 1976-1983, where they made 5 playoff appearances. They lost three straight NLCS from 1976-78, won the WS in 1980, and lost the World Series in 1983. (They also lost a playoff in the strike-shortened 1981 to the Montreal Expos). For an eight year-stretch led by HOF Mike Schmidt the Phillies were quite respectable, making five post-season appearances. In the other 116 seasons, they have made just three playoff appearances (the last in 1993).

Compared once again with the Cubbies, the Phils get smoked. The Cubs edge them on World Series victories 2-1. Despite not having appeared since 1945, the Cubs edge them on WS appearances 10-5, National League Pennants 16-5, Playoff Appearances 14-8. One can also compare them in near misses (90 win seasons where they did not qualify), the Cubs had 9 such seasons (including 104 wins in 1909 that wasn't good enough), while the Phillies have had 3 seasons when they did not make the playoffs.

The final stat is just the overall record. The Phillies have the lowest winning percentage of all the original teams (.468), the Cubs are quite respectable at (.536). They have 10,000 losses. The next worse is the Braves at 9,681 and the Cubs at 9,425. They have by far the most losses and it would take decades for somoene to take that away from them.

The Phillies are, by far, the worst franchise in the history of Major League Baseball. Expansion teams can make excuses like bad ballparks, bad owners, and bad markets. The Phillies cannot. They play in a large market, they have had multiple owners, and they have played in five different ballparks. The only thing that has been common is the losing. Philadelphia has the reputation for having the most bitter sports fans in the U.S., and after having to watch this team for over 100 years who can blame them?


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DaddyMac22JV Squad
867 days ago
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Are the Phillies the Worst Franchise in Baseball History? Well, statistically...um, yeah...?
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ChristofMVP
867 days ago
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I agree with that statement.
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NoHuddleOffensiveWaterboy
867 days ago
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Sure. I guess. I'd say the Cubs though.
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ChristofMVP
867 days ago
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Cubs have a .513 winning %. This is 45 points higher than the Phillies.
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RawbeezeitzMajor Leaguer
867 days ago
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1 World title

5 NL titles 49 2nd Division finishes (2nd Division means worse than 4th in the 8 team leagues before expansion)

The Cubs are a slightly better franchise.

2 World titles 16 NL titles (6 of which were before the modern World Series)

39 2nd Division finishes
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
867 days ago
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count 'Last Place Finishes' and see what happens
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ThecrookedcapAll-Star
867 days ago
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28 last place seasons for the Phils, 15 for the Cubs.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
867 days ago
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Few Philadelphians have seen this team play for over 100 years. My 102 year old Grandmom was a Philadelphia Athletics fan though!
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ChristofMVP
867 days ago
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Wrong team truly moved out of Philadelphia.
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DNLLegend
867 days ago
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The worst franchise ever is the Exponationals.
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Phoenix SuperfanVarsity
867 days ago
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Aren't they a AAA team for the Yankees?
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NoHuddleOffensiveWaterboy
867 days ago
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Oh...good call. Not to mention the talent they dispersed through the league like they didn't need it.
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RomiezzoLegend
867 days ago
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Believe it or not, Expos/Nationals ARE NOT considered the worst franchise... yet. They have a .482 Winning percentage. Even though they've never won a pennant yet, I think that since the Phillies have been around 86 years more than the Expos, the Phils had less competition than the Expos had since they started their franchise until now...
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RomiezzoLegend
866 days ago
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Padres-Nationals: .463-.482 all time winning percentage. Both of them started in 1969. Padres have had their ups and downs, but so have the Expos/Nationals. Maybe in this decade or so, the Padres will have a better winning percentage, but until then, Padres are still considered a worse franchise.
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I am a cpcpMajor Leaguer
866 days ago
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If it wasn't for the 90s strike, it would be a completely different story for the Expos.
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Tyrone BriggsHall of Famer
867 days ago
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Considering several franchises have not yet won the World Series, the Phillies are should not be considered "the worst".
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RomiezzoLegend
867 days ago
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Only franchises not not win a World Series yet: Mariners (30 years), Nationals (38 years), Rangers (46), Devil Rays (9), Padres (38), Brewers (38), Rockies (14). So the Rangers have been the franchise who have not won a World Series yet in their franchise. They have a .467 W% right now, and the Phillies have a .468 W% right now. The Rangers haven't even won a pennant yet. And the Rangers have only won 3 playoff appearances compared to the Phillies' 9. I'd say they're pretty equal, but I'm going for the Rangers as the worst franchise only because they haven't won a WS yet...
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Tyrone BriggsHall of Famer
867 days ago
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The Texas Rangers certainly win on terms of most wasted money spent.
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Confessions Of A FanaticDiv-I Stud
867 days ago
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I think that the best way to decide "worst" can only be whatever team has the lowest winning percentage. It's impossible to compare over 100 years of Phillies history to 30+ years of Expo/Nationals, unless you use that number, in conjunction with first place finishes, league championships, and World Series titles of course. Yes, the Phillies are the only North American sports team to lose 10,000 games, but that mark should not cancel out all of their past successes, regardless of how few of them there may or may not be.
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Tyrone BriggsHall of Famer
867 days ago
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Agreed. This franchise has had success and should not be dismissed as the "worst".
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Sergeant ArmchairWaterboy
867 days ago
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Cubs blow. Worse franchise ever. Never will win. Bunch of losers. But.... those Montreal Expo's were almost as bad! Les Expositions de montréal ont eu de plus petites balles que Manny, le Prophète Faux et La Bête ont combiné.
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RomiezzoLegend
866 days ago
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Translation: The Montreal Expos have smaller balls than Manny, The Wrong Prophet and the Animal (?) together.

3 words: WTF?

Just to let you know, Sergeant Armchair, the Cubs have a much higher winning percnetage than MANY other teams...
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RomiezzoLegend
866 days ago
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BTW, the Cubs have the second most amount of wins than any other MLB franchise in history. They are 6th in winning percentage (.513). The other 5 teams are the Red Sox, the Cardinals, the Giants, the Dodgers, and (of course) the Yankees...
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ThecrookedcapAll-Star
867 days ago
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The Cubs are not bad, they're mediocre. In doing my above comment of last place finishes, I've noticed they've finished a lot of seasons right in the middle of the pack.
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The sharkDraft Pick
867 days ago
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Here's some nice perspective.
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RawbeezeitzMajor Leaguer
867 days ago
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Four words: Tampa Bay Devil Rays. Nine seasons, 8 finished in dead last, one in 4th. .397 winning percentage, 68 losses from 1,000 total. The Phillies reached 1,000 losses in 17 seasons. They've produced some talented players but very few have panned out to be very good Major Leaguers. They can't even sell out a minor league stadium, and if they didn't have 20 home games against Boston and New York each year, they'd struggle to break 1,000,000 in attendance. They have no direction, have showed no signs of improvement, and their best season was 21 games below .500. The Phillies are the worst of the "Original 16" franchises, but the D-Rays are the worst of all 30 franchises.
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JuTMSY4Legend
53 days ago
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The irony of this statement in conjunction with the timing makes it truly comedic Sorry Rawb, just be glad it's dated
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Sports maniacSoccer Kid
867 days ago
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no- they are just old. Its prob the Royals or Rays
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MetsJetsDevilsDraft Pick
867 days ago
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Yes
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ThecrookedcapAll-Star
867 days ago
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It cannot be the Royals. Despite what they have become in recent years (when big money became important), when you look at their overall history they're not have bad. [1].
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ThecrookedcapAll-Star
867 days ago
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*half bad
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Boomer6392Waterboy
867 days ago
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expos...ughhgghgh
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Tyrone BriggsHall of Famer
867 days ago
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When this team was decent, the Expos were either done in by a homerun delivered by Rick Monday or a player's strike. Yet, this team produced a ton of talent (Pedro Martinez, Randy Johnson, Tim Raines, Larry Walker, Andre Dawson, Gary Carter, Vlad Guerrero, etc.) Best minor league talent producer at the MLB level!
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TyduffyRed-Shirting
866 days ago
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My take was that you have to take extenuating circumstances into account. Yes, the Devil Rays have obviously been the worst franchise in their 9 seasons. But how much of that is due to the ballpark and the lack of fan support? It's also too much of a sample size. I would argue the same for the Nationals.

The Rangers are on their way to becoming the Phillies, but I don't think that their record of futility is quite there yet.

If you like historically, the Phillies have to be the worst. If Unser doesn't get that pinch-hit triple in the 1980 WS it is hands down the Phils. They had a stretch where they had 30 out of 31 losing seasons.
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AngelaSJV Squad
866 days ago
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Are we only talking about currently existing major league teams? 'Cause the Cleveland Spiders were pretty terrible.
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JuTMSY4Legend
866 days ago
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Worst Franchise in Baseball History? New York Yankees...duh
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Niteowl049AAA-er
866 days ago
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I agree with Tyrone that a team like the Phillies should not be considered the worst when there are seven teams playing today in their present configuration that have never won a World Series. Rangers have been playing for 46 years without a championship and Astros have played 45 years without a championship.Yankees not surprisingly have the highest winning percentage in baseball history playing .567 baseball with the Rays having the lowest winning percentage at .397.
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Anonymous Fanatic #1
866 days ago
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All of this is bogus. These arguments are illogical. You can't apply haphazard math to justify fallacious assertions. In order to run an analysis of any even minimal vaildity, you must compare the Rangers' 47 years (or the Pads' 39 or the Mets' 46, etc.) to the Phillies' record in that same time period. Only then is the comparision vaild for two reasons. First, we obtain a year-to-year, one-on-one ratio for analytical pruposes. Secondly, both teams at this time had the same pool of talent from which to draw further ensuring accuracy. The Phillies' history prior to the Rangers' (or Pads' or Mets') inception must be thrown out as invalid for comparision purposes. As an example, you can not compare the success of mankind as a species to that of T. Rex when the former has a much smaller time scale to use in the comparision. BTW, the fact that T. Rex is currently extinct does not qualify as a sound argument; it still survived for millions of years longer than man.
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Anonymous Fanatic #2
594 days ago
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As a Nationals Fan! The Phillies are worse. We've been around only since 2005, and we just got a ballpark. Our sample space is as long in history as the first week of April is to a Season! Plus 1/3 of our seasons we finished .500 or better (2005 81-81). So we are far from the worst.
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Anonymous Fanatic #3
583 days ago
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The Rangers have not been around for 47 years. I guess you are including the Senator days of this franchise, and it is not recognized here in Dallas/Ft. Worth.
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KelsdadAll-Star
583 days ago
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Baseball recognizes it, that's what counts.
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Anonymous Fanatic #4
37 days ago
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Phillies aren't the worst...look they are the firt team to win back to back NL pennants since the reds in 75-76 soo they are by far not the best team---expos/nats are and I am from DC
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Anonymous Fanatic #5
27 days ago
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This Phillies team is very good but they are speaking about all-time numbers. From the beginning (using only the inaugural teams) the Phils have the lowest winning percentage and the most losses). It is not easy to win a World Series, by no stretch of the imagination but 2 World Series (and 6 Pennants) in over 120 years of being around equals, in Keith Obermann's words, "The Worse...team...EVER".
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