A different view of the Greatest Ever - Bobby Orr and the NoMoreOrr.com idiots!

All I can figure is that it has to be some kind of a joke site. Orr is not only easily the greatest defenceman of all time, but maybe the best all-around player in NHL history, #99 included. If it's not intended as satire, that site borders on sacrilege.

Visiting the site is what they want us to do, so we should just not bother.

Good point. Maybe we can ask an administrator to delete the article.

The curiosity was killing me. I just went and checked it out. Nothing but unsubstantiated nonsense. D21, I know you're big on adjusted stats, they do one there that just blew my mind. Totally ridiculous. Everyone has a right to express their opinion, but......

Someone over there posted an article here a couple months ago which was just a plain shill for it. Definitely a load of crap.

I saw Orr play, he was just like Gretzky and Howe...ahead of his time. The end to end rushes weren't because the other players sucked, but because he was just better. He was viewed as a puck hog, in those days passing was much more a part of the game than it is today. While I won't go as far as put Orr ahead of Gretzky, he's definitely up there. Do me a favor, will you Davis? Post your version of Orr's adjusted.

That's awesome! Funny how the "old-timers" sucked but there are only three active players on your list.

At about the two minute mark of the video there's a play against the Rangers where he splits the two defenseman and scores. See how he accelerated? Amazing.

In 1972, when Team Canada beat Russia, (best hockey team, ever) Orr was the key. The Russians had always played the end to end rushing style Orr played, carrying the puck into the offensive zone instead of the US/Canada dump and chase style. So when they first saw Orr they didn't have a game plan for him, Russia assumed we would dump and chase as usual and when Orr and Espo and Hull and the others started rushing they couldn't stop them. Not only was he stronger than the Russian forwards he was also faster, just went right by them.

That series meant more to hockey than any other, including the 1980 Olympics. Orr single-handedly changed the way hockey was played, and, along with Gretzky, are the two most influential players in hockey history.

That's actually a great point about the skate and ice conditions, because his knee injury was a result of bad ice. So with today's flex boots on the skates and better surfaces he likely would not have been injured, at least not as severely as he was. Important thing to know, Orr was an OFFENSIVE defenseman. From strictly a defense standpoint, there were better defenseman in the league. As great as he was with his feet, it was a motion greatness, meaning his best attributes were while he was moving. If he was caught in the defensive zone and was either still or caught going the wrong way, he would get beat 100% of the time. Teams would attack him in the zone because he had trouble in close quarters. Some defenseman excel in front of the net or in the corners, this was Orr's weakness.

best method ever: with goaltending being equal imagine two defencemen & three forwards being the same person, match up the skills of the team against any other & you get the best three players in history* #1 Bobby Orr; #2 Bobby Hull; #3 Gordie Howe.

I saw Orr over his entire career. I also saw Gretzky's entire career. I feel priveldged to have witnessed such talent. When ESPN selected the 50 Greatest Players of All Time---the judges were given some ground rules. One rule cost Orr the #1 position. Judges could not to use any plus / minus stats in their selecting process due to the fact some selectees had no plus / minus stats, as they played prior to 1966, before such stats were kept. This was grand theft to Orr----since his plus / minus numbers were off the charts compared to the Great One. The judges should have used that stat when differentiating between 2 players like Orr and Gretzky, whom both had plus / minus numbers on the books.

I saw them both. Profound respect for both.

Orr was the most dominant player ---ever.

As for the players being so much bigger and faster today. let me point this out : Crosby and Gretzky are both under 6 feet tall and less than 190 pounds. Secondly---dump and chase always 'looks' faster. Games today look like a pin-ball game. Back then----you tried to keep the puck. Work it down the ice. Dumping the puck to go chase it behind the net is a modern day addition to the game, and a bad one. We dont want Soccer on Ice---we want hockey. Skating, Passing, checking, stickhandling and shooting. Enough of the endless 'Trap' strategies.

Someone tell me how modern day skates, sticks and equipment would NOT make Orr even better today ?

If you dont think ORR was one of the three greatest players in the history of hockey you know nothing about the game

3 greatest ever 1 ORR 2 Gretsky 3 Howe even though he was a dirty bastard and hey what about Messier?