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A Michigan-OSU Rematch? A Schizophrenic Jeeves Debates Himself (Part two of a three part series)

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by user Jeeves

(See part one of the series here. A BCS Mess)


Does Michigan still deserve to play in the National Championship?

That's the question on everyone's mind. Trust me, all the talking heads are going to be, well talking about it. Judging from some college football analysts' mailbags, I think fans were more concerned about the idea of a rematch than the original game itself. I've decided to take a look at this, but I'm going at it from both angles. In this post, you'll get to hear from Jeeves, the NCAA football fan and Jeeves, the Michigan football fan.

School of thought 1: Michigan had their chance, and they blew it.

The danger of having Michigan in the title game, is the risk of devaluing the regular season. People have long regarded the regular season as the 'playoffs' of college football, which is part of the appeal of the game itself. Whereas in pro football, one loss doesn't neccesarily mean much in the scheme of things, one loss in college can dictate whether you're playing in the Rose Bowl or the Outback Bowl. By having Michigan in the championship game, it would essentially be saying that the Big Ten finale didn't mean anything. Even though they lost, they would still be on equal footing to Ohio State with regards to winning the National Championship. What would happen if Michigan actually won the rematch? The first game between the teams would mean absolutely nothing. Yes, Ohio State would have a Big Ten championship, but Michigan would have the grand prize.

Such a scenario reminds me of how Nebraska backed into the title game against Miami. They were absolutely masacred by Colorado and still had a shot to compete for the 'ship. Now, I do realize that the Michigan game was very close, but that's not the parallel I'm looking to draw. The connection is the fact that Michigan wasn't good enough to win their own conference, so how do they deserve to win the National Title?

Michigan had their shot at the Buckeyes; they played valiantly and damn near pulled it out (they were maybe one Crable roughing the passer penatly away from a win), but they missed their opportunity. It's time to let another top team in the nation have a go at the Buckeyes.


School of thought 2: Michigan may have lost, but they're still the second best team in the nation.

So what if Michigan lost? They weren't blown out; it was unbelievably close. Hell, no one has challenged Ohio State this much since last year's Texas game. In my books Michigan is still the second best team in the nation, and the purpose of the BCS is to match up the two best teams so they can battle it out for the title.

Yes, Florida is a good team. If they win out against FSU and Arkansas, they can boast a strong argument for a spot in the title game, but they're not as solid as Michigan is. Florida may have an offensive mastermind as a coach, but their offense does not reflect their coach. It is still developing. Some will say that Michigan's offense isn't all that great either, so I will just refer those folks to today's scoreboard. Florida's defense isn't a match for Michigan's either; they are just overall a small notch below the Wolverines. USC? They've struggled to beat the dregs of the Pac-10, actually losing to one of them. Notre Dame? Yep, demolished by Michigan. Arkansas? That opening game really is an eyesore.

Michigan's loss was against the #1 team in the land. Ohio State has unanimously been number one for quite some time now. A three point loss to them just proves that Michigan can give OSU a run for their money in the 'ship.

Say, Michigan and Ohio State played their rivalry game Labor Day weekend a la FSU and Miami. Everything else equal, Michigan would almost unanimously be ranked #2 in the nation. They would have had plenty of time to climb up the rankings as every other team lost to lesser opponents. It's unjust to penalize Michigan for saving it's toughest match up for the end of the year. Afterall, a loss is a loss, so what if it came a few months later?

In pro football, it's quite possible that the teams set to play in the Super Bowl have played eachother in the regular season. Does that mean that the team that lost during the season should be ousted from the championship game? No. Some critics say that a rematch would lessen the importance of the first game and diminsh its importance. To an extent it would, but any regular season game is dwarfed by the championship. Plus this past game would play heavily upon the championship. Whole game plans would be set based on the results of the first game.

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The sharkDraft Pick
1088 days ago
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If you don't win your conference, you (a) aren't the 2nd best team in the country and (b) don't deserve to be in the Championship game.
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False ProphetAll-Star
1088 days ago
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So what your saying is that A Michigan team that lost to the No. 1 team in the Nation is worse than a USC team that lost to Oregon, or a Florida team that Lost to Auburn and almost lost to Tennesse and South Carolina?
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The sharkDraft Pick
1088 days ago
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What I'm saying is if you can't win your conference, you do not get a shot a National Championship.
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DNLLegend
1088 days ago
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I don't see why not -- so long as (a) you're second in your conference and (b) the #1 team in the nation is the #1 team in your conference. Certainly, if Wisconsin had beaten Michigan and gone undefeated, they'd have a totally legitimate claim on the National Championship Game versus OSU.
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JeevesJV Squad
1088 days ago
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I wonder what people's reactions would be to an undefeated Wisconsin team.
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Srtellis4585JV Squad
1087 days ago
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I'd say that since they didn't have play Ohio State, they might as well go against OSU for the title if they end up #2, which they should if they are unbeaten. Though it brings up something else: conference title games. Should they only be for conferences with 12 teams, or should they be for conferences with 10 or more, or for all conferences?
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Davis21wylieMVP
1088 days ago
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This makes me think about Florida State-Florida in 1996. FSU absolutely dominated the Gators in Gainesville in the last regular season game for both teams, but because the Rose Bowl demanded that Ohio State and Arizona State play each other, there was a "title game" rematch. And when Florida won, it was a mess, because why (at one loss) were they fit to be champs over fellow one-lossers FSU, ASU, and OSU? If we get a rematch this year, and if Michigan wins (they almost pulled it out in Columbus, so I might actually give them favorite status at a neutral site), what do we do now? We'll have no legit undefeateds (sorry, Boise), and a host of 1-loss teams with basically equal claim to the National Championship. It's another BCS mess; don't say we didn't warn you...
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Mesoanarchy
1087 days ago
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The UM-OSU game wasn't as close as the final score indicates. When you're constantly playing from between one and two TDs down for most of the game, the game isn't close. And it certainly wasn't "The Game of the Century." How quickly we forget the USC-Notre Dame game last season, or last season's National Championship game. Both of those games were consistently closer and easily as exciting as yesterday's OSU-UM game.
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Anonymous Fanatic #1
1087 days ago
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don't know why you are even debating this, it will be osu vs. usc. done deal. michigan will play west virginia and get beat badly.
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JeevesJV Squad
1087 days ago
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The reason I'm debating this is because USC hasn't looked like the second best team in the nation for most of the season. I'm out on the West Coast so I've seen all their games, and they were brutally bad during that middle stretch of the season. The eeked out 3 games in a row against poor teams, before they finally lost to Oregon State. Had the played like that against Cal, they would have lost by 20.
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Anonymous Fanatic #2
1087 days ago
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yeah, but if they beat ND convincingly at the end of the season, how could you not give it to them?
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JeevesJV Squad
1087 days ago
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That's true. I conceded in part one (in the comments) that if I look at it unbiased, USC controls their own destiny. But the fact that they haven't looked dominant is the reason why it is open to debate.
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Anonymous Fanatic #2
1087 days ago
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gotcha jeeves, i agree they haven't looked dominant. i do think they will have no problem with ND.
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Anonymous Fanatic #3
1087 days ago
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The reason why a 1 loss Michigan team deserves it over a 1 loss USC team is because Michigan lost to THE NUMBER ONE TEAM IN THE COUNTRY. Meanwhile USC's loss comes to a crappy Oregon State team. If Florida gets another loss, Michigan is in it.
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False ProphetAll-Star
1087 days ago
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Michigan Beat ND as well, so I think that Mich has a more legit claim over USC. They have a better record V. top 10 teams, better SOS, and lost to a better team
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Anonymous Fanatic #4
1086 days ago
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true, true, true. but nobody wants to see a rematch. i would rather see usc.
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FriskysmanVarsity Captain
1086 days ago
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People who argue for the BCS and against a playoff system say that the regular season is like a playoff because you're so screwed if you lose. Well, Michigan lost their playoff game to the Buckeyes. They don't get a second chance, as much as the nation may want to see it. I'm sure the nation would have loved to have seen a rematch of the Yankees and Red Sox in the World Series in 2004 after an amazing ALCS, but it doesn't work that way and it shouldn't in college football either. Plus, it just isn't fair to the Buckeyes. They did their job by beating Michigan. If a rematch were to occur, they would have to beat Michigan twice to win it all and Michigan would only have to win once. Are we going to have a third game to break the tie if Michigan wins? A rematch would make what we just saw on Saturday meaningless because no matter who won, there was going to be a rematch. There are countless reasons why Michigan should not get a second chance. I hope common sense prevails in the end.
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FriskysmanVarsity Captain
1086 days ago
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Let's not forget a few things:

1. Michigan very nearly lost to BALL STATE. 2. Michigan only beat Nortwestern 17-3 whereas OSU crushed them 54-10.

3. Michigan had 17 points off of turnovers against OSU (and it could be debated anywhere from 8-15 more from the refs) and yet they needed a touchdown, 2-point coversion, succesful onside kick, and field goal in the final minutes just to TIE. That game was not as close as many are making it out to be and I don't think Michigan is as good as many think. They played pretty much a perfect game against OSU and still lost. OSU made a lot of mistakes and still won. It's likely OSU would obliterate Michigan in a rematch.
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JeevesJV Squad
1086 days ago
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(I'm just playing Devil's advocate here)

I wouldn't say they played a perfect game. They played well, but not perfect. In a perfect game, Crable doesn't get called for roughing the passer, Henne doesn't miss Manningham when he's wide open, and the defense would have played like they're capable of playing.

(Again, devil's advocate)

Let's not forget...

1. USC squeaked by Washington State by 6. 2. USC needed the new clock rules to foil Washington's last minute comeback, their defense was absolutely ripped open that last drive. 3.USC won by 7 at home to ASU 4. USC lost to Oregon State and were down a huge margin.

Also note, that those 4 games came back-to-back-to-back-to-back.
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Anonymous Fanatic #5
1080 days ago
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ohio state was at home
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Anonymous Fanatic #5
1080 days ago
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ohio state was at home
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