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AGMVC - Catchers closed, onto first basemen

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by user Steaksammich

The votes are in and the 8 current members of the AGMVC voted Victor Martinez as the game's best catcher. I've added the results to the catcher page and closed the voting. Feel free to place your votes anyway. I probably won't update the results to reflect the changes, but that shouldn't stop anyone from having their opinion heard.

Now that Victor Martinez has his award, it's time to move on to first baseman. The Voting Committee is being called upon once again, this time to vote on the top ten active first baseman. Stop by and place your vote.

So that this isn't just an article giving cheap promos to the AGMVC, I'll throw in a little bit of content. I already went ahead and added a list of the top ten firstbasemen of all-time to first base. There won't be an official vote on this (I figure we can save that for some fun and games during the long off-season), but feel free to comment and add your two cents. The list is not set in stone and changes can obviously be made by anyone.

1. Lou Gehrig - Gehrig is heads and shoulders above any other first baseman in the history of the game. A .340/.447/.632 line is an amazing single season, but Gehrig kept it up over the course of 17 years. The original iron man hit 493 homers to go along with that line and was part of 6 World Series winning Yankee teams. He topped 150 RBI seven times including back to back seasons with 174 and 184.

2. Jimmie Foxx - Not quite as good as Gehrig, but a .325/.428/.609 line with 534 HR is damned impressive. He had 12 consecutive seasons with at least 30 HR and 105 RBI. He won the World Series with the Philadelphia Athletics twice, won the MVP 3 times, and is one of the few men in the history of the game to win the Triple Crown when he hit .356 with 48 HR and 163 RBI in 1933

3. Mark McGwire - Bitch and moan about steroids all you want, but I really don't see why people want to focus on the negatives so much. Sure, he injected an illegal substance into his body. Well, Babe Ruth was a drunk, Ty Cobb was a racist prick, and Pete Rose bet on baseball. Everyone has flaws. And you can play the cheating card all you want, but you're a damned fool if you think that the pitchers Big Mac was facing weren't doing the same thing. So instead of the black mark on the game, let's focus on the actual game itself. The man hit 583 HR and had an ISO of .325. Very few could match this guy's power.

4. Jeff Bagwell - With his career likely over, we can now look back and realize that we got to watch one of the best in the game play. He hit for average, got on base, hit for power, and was one of the best in the league year after year. He stuck with the same team for his entire career and he may not have won any World Series, but that was no fault of his own.

5. Frank Thomas - Born on the same day as Bagwell, it's tough to pick between the two. Thomas has slightly better numbers, but Bagwell was a more well rounded player. Thomas was a monster with the bat, but that was his only assett while Bagwell was quick enough to steal over 200 bases and took home a gold glove.

6. Harmon Killebrew - He has numbers very similar to McGwire. Both were slow, extremely powerful guys who didn't hit for a high average, and could knock the ball out of the park at any time. But it took Killebrew 2000 at bats more than Big Mac to hit 10 home runs less than him.

7. Eddie Murray - He was never the best guy in the league. He never won the MVP and there was always someone better than him. But he while he was never great, he was always extremely good. He reached double digits in homers for 21 straight years.

8. Rafael Palmeiro - He was caught using steroids in 2005 and he was villified for it, but he was still one of the greatest to play the game. Like Murray, he was never considered the best, but he was always very good. He had a period where he went 9 straight seasons with at least 38 HR and 104 RBI. He also has the distiction of being the only guy to play DH for most of the year, but still win the Gold Glove.

9. Johnny Mize - His career went downhill very quickly after the 1948 season, but he was a superstar when starting his career with the St. Louis Cardinals and New York Yankees. He was able to hit for a high average and had enough power to hit at least 40 HR 3 different times.

10. Willie McCovey - The San Francisco Giants legend had a long career, but a short peak. He didn't stick as a regular until his 5th year in the majors and his production dropped off after he turned 32. But still, he stuck around a long time past his prime and amassed some pretty impressive numbers.


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Mon 05/22/06, 8:16 am EST

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PeanMajor Leaguer
1269 days ago
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what about Kevin Maas?
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Patrickburke1980All-American
1269 days ago
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Steak, will there be a post showing the results of the catcher award? I'd be curious to see the whole top ten and how many votes each received.
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DNLLegend
1269 days ago
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Pujols is going to win 1B -- second place there is a lot more interesting.
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Patrickburke1980All-American
1269 days ago
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I thought we were just voting on active players? Obviously, this list is for the best all-time 1b. Are we doing separate and active awards?
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Patrickburke1980All-American
1269 days ago
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sorry, i just noticed your comments that this will not be a part of the Amchair Awards.
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SteaksammichRed-Shirting
1269 days ago
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Kevin Mass was a tough one to leave out. I have him penciled in at #11, just a hair below McCovey and right above Rance Mulkins.



The results are listed on the "catcher" page. I only listed to top ten. I probably should add the entire results to page where the voting took place. And I will do that. But first...lunch.
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SteaksammichRed-Shirting
1269 days ago
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A plate of leftover lasagna and some fidgiting with ArmchairGM tables later, and the full results are up on the same page where the voting too place. I know how to make exactly one kind of table (border=1), so if anyone wants to pretty it up a bit, go for it.
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Patrickburke1980All-American
1269 days ago
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awesome. nice work steaky.
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ChachiOSUDraft Pick
1269 days ago
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So after all that ranting and raving over Ausmus and Matheny neither one received a single vote? Wow! By the way, nice work with all of this steak.
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SteaksammichRed-Shirting
1269 days ago
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I was surprised with that too. I mean all the discussion prompted me to drop Barrett off my list entirely. I still didn't consider Matheny or Ausmus because they are absolutely not guys that I want on my team...but I figured at least someone would!
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Bball3345Draft Pick
1269 days ago
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I would have considered Hank Greenberg for the list. He only accumulated 5193 ABs, but he dominated every year. His OBP was over .400 in 10 of his 12 seasons and his SLG was over .600 in 8 of 12. Also, he was a career .313 hitter who hit 58 HRs in 1938 and over 40 HRs 3 other times. Greenberg was also an above average defensive 1Bman.
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MetsJetsDevilsDraft Pick
1269 days ago
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Plus Greenberg was Jewish. We need a diverse list!
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Categories: Opinions | AGMVC | May 22, 2006 | Opinions by User Steaksammich | MLB Opinions | Victor Martinez Opinions | Lou Gehrig Opinions | Jimmie Foxx Opinions | Mark McGwire Opinions | Rafael Palmeiro Opinions | Jeff Bagwell Opinions | Frank Thomas Opinions | Harmon Killibrew Opinions | Eddie Murray Opinions | Johnny Mize Opinions | Willie McCovey Opinions

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