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2007 Team of the Future: National League

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by user Timothy Moreland (Bball3345)

I will be doing an ongoing MLB preview series over the next two months, until Opening Day. Here is the first installment.

BBall's 2007 MLB Preview
2007 Team of the Future: National League
2007 Team of the Future: American League
2007 BBall's MLB Breakout Players
2007 BBall's MLB Busts
2007 BBall's MLB Mock Auction
My How Time Flies: A Look Back at 1997
2007 BBall's NL West Preview
2007 BBall's AL East Preview
2007 BBall's NL East Preview
2007 BBall's AL West Preview
2007 BBall's AL Central Preview
2007 BBall's NL Central Preview

Rules

- Just like last year (NL Team of the Future), I will assemble a team of players to build the best team for the next five years

- Salaries are not a factor

- Whether or not the player will play for a major league team all five years or start for them is not a factor; therefore, i can select minor leaguers who may not be in the majors for two more years if I feel they are the best player to have. They will be starters on my team.

- The players do not have to be a certain age. Although, selecting Clemens may be a bad move because he would more than likely retire or fade very quickly.


Catcher

Brian McCann: McCann is far and away the best catcher in the National League. At only 23 years of age, he has 30 HR potential and could win a batting title. His defense behind the plate is not fantastic, but is about average. McCann's bat is strong enough to play any position, but makes him an MVP candidate at catcher.


Honorable Mentions: Russell Martin, Chris Iannetta (2006: 1.038 OPS in AA and .887 OPS in AAA/ highly-rated defense)

First Base

Albert Pujols: While Howard did slug 58 HRs, no one is as good a player as Prince Albert. They are both 27-years-old, but Pujols is a multiple MVP winner and frequent All-Star selection, while Howard has only one full season under his belt. Offensively, Pujols gets a slight nod, but it is defense and speed that polarizes them. Pujols plays Gold Glove defense and steals 10-15 bases per season, while Howard is atrocious in the field and has no stolen a base since AA in 2004. Pujols career low OBP is .394 and his career low SLG is .561, both in the same season. Last year, Pujols had a line of .331/.431/.671. Howard may win some more MVP trophies in the future, but Pujols will be the most valuable of the two for a long time.

Honorable Mentions: Ryan Howard, Lance Berkman, Prince Fielder

Second Base

Chase Utley: Utley stands out among all other second baseman with his bat. He is a lock for 30 HRS and could get hot and go for 40 without surprising anyone. Utley is also an intelligent baserunner, with 37 steals and only 8 caught stealings in his career. Last season, Utley's defense declined, but it was solid for the first couple years of his career.

Honorable Mentions: Eric Patterson(46 steals in 2006/ 43 in 2005), Orlando Hudson, Dan Uggla

Third Base

Miguel Cabrera: Third base has three superstars with Zimmerman, Cabrera, and Wright. Cabrera has the best bat among the three, but either Wright or Cabrera could hit 40 HRs and either two could have a .400+ OBP. Wright clearly has the most value on the basepath. The other two don't factor into the run game. Cabrera lags behind the other two defensively. Zimmerman has the best glove, but Wright plays near Gold-Glove caliber as well. The upside for all three is relatively equal, but Wright and Cabrera have already shown they are superstars. Zimmerman has a bit more to prove, but he is also two years younger than the other two.

Honorable Mentions: Ryan Zimmerman, David Wright

Shortstop

Hanley Ramirez: Again, there is a three-way race. Rollins has the best glove of the three, but none of them are that good in the field. After a slump to start the year, Rollins exploded for 25 HRs. His OBP is relatively low, usually somewhere around .340. He can be penciled in for 30 steals. Reyes should hit between 15-25 HRs each season, with a .300 average. His OBP jumped from terrible to strong last season. It will be essential for the youngster to maintain this new level. Reyes is the type of player who could steal 80 bases in a season. His defense has been rather ugly. Ramirez is a year younger than Reyes and was just as good on offense last year as Reyes. His defense is below-average, but not the atrocity that Reyes' is. He has good power and will crack 20 HRs soon. Ramirez may not steal 80 bases, but 45 is a sure-thing. It is more likely that Ramirez will sustain his high OBP than Reyes. Overall, any three of these guys have MVP upside.


Honorable Mentions: Jose Reyes, Jimmy Rollins

Left Field

Jason Bay: Dunn, Soriano, and to a lesser extent, Holliday make the decision interesting, but the answer is clearly Bay. He plays for one of the most poorly run organizations in sports; however, Bay is one of the best outfielders in the game. Defensively, Bay has great range, has only 7 career errors in left, and had 10 outfield assists last season. One can expect 35-40 HRs, a .280 average, a .400 OBP, and extremely efficient basestealing (2005-06: 32/35). Bay is a complete player and would be an MVP candidate on any other team.


Honorable Mentions: Adam Dunn, Alfonso Soriano, Matt Holliday

Center Field

Carlos Beltran: Since Chris Young really hasn't played at the major league level, this selection has to go to Beltran. Last season was the best of his career. He topped 40 HRs, which is unlikely to happen again, hit 38 doubles, and showed off his tremendous speed on the basepaths and in center. He was the most valuable player on the Mets team last season. Young projects to be Beltran Jr., but for know, the nod goes to the original version.

Honorable Mentions: Chris Young

Right Field

Jeremy Hermida: Not to take anything away from Hermida, but this pick was due more to a lack of superstars in right than Hermida's accomplishments. Still, Hermida has a lot to be proud of. Last season he showed no power, but he should be a 20 HR player with 30 doubles. His OBP should approach .400 over the next few years. On the bases, Hermida has average speed, which translates into some nicely timed steals. As well, he plays average defense in right. An MVP is probably not in his future, but Hermida should make a few All-Star games over the next decade.

Honorable Mentions: Jeff Francoeur, Jay Bruce(athletic/ good arm/ power), Carlos Quentin, Austin Kearns

Complete NL Lineup

C Brian McCann

1B Albert Pujols

2B Chase Utley

3B Miguel Cabrera

SS Hanley Ramirez

LF Jason Bay

CF Carlos Beltran

RF Jeremy Hermida

Rotation

I didn't include any pitchers last season, so here is my rotation, just for fun.

  1. Jake Peavy
  2. Brandon Webb
  3. Ben Sheets
  4. Carlos Zambrano
  5. Chris Carpenter

Just missed... Cole Hamels and Tim Lincecum

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False ProphetAll-Star
1031 days ago
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Wait, you have Carpenter at the bottom of the Rotation? What gives? HE should be top 2 or at least top 3.
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Bball3345Draft Pick
1031 days ago
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Main reason: age. He is 32, so he would be 37 in the final year of this team. The others are all under 30.
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False ProphetAll-Star
1031 days ago
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So what? Use him while you can, and have him start off as the No 1 and as he gets progressively worse you can bump him down
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Bball3345Draft Pick
1031 days ago
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That's a really picky complaint. Does it matter where in this rotation he pitches? These five are interchangeable. If you want him at number 1, ok then. He goes fifth in my rotation.
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False ProphetAll-Star
1031 days ago
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I see now, I thought this was done in order. I'm not trying to be picky, and if I am i'm sorry. It's just to see the Defending Cy Young Winner at the bottom of any rotation is kinda odd.
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Bball3345Draft Pick
1031 days ago
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That's ok...yeah he will never see the bottom of an MLB rotation anytime soon.
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ChristofMVP
1031 days ago
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Like the list overall. I would put Howard over Pujols though. Also, I would add Shane Victorino on the list in Center Field. The guy is going to have a breakout year this year for the Phils.
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Bball3345Draft Pick
1031 days ago
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I like Victorino a lot more than Rowand.
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ChristofMVP
1031 days ago
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Also, I don't know if Cole Hamels deserves to be on the list. The boy has a long history of injuries, which is not good news for a guy who is 21/22.
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KelsdadAll-Star
1031 days ago
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Good list BBall, although some background on your rookies would have been helpful, especially since Iannetta will be Colorado's starting catcher this season.
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Bball3345Draft Pick
1031 days ago
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I just added a little bit of additional info on the rookies.
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JoshkrossDraft Pick
1031 days ago
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Ramirez over Reyes because of defense?? Look at the numbers, hombre.

HRam '06 - 26 e's .963 FP JRey '06 - 17 e's .971 FP JRey '05 - 18 e's .974 FP

Reyes' lifetime FP is .972 as a SS and .980 as a 2B. We can check the other stats if you like too. Also, you might say that HRam might progress to being better, than Jose defensively, but you'd be arguing on gut, and not much else.

Pick Hanley if you want, but not because of defense.

Atlanta bias maybe? :)
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JoshkrossDraft Pick
1031 days ago
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Forgot to add that Reyes adds significant value over Ramirez as a leadoff hitter, which they both should be.
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Davis21wylieMVP
1031 days ago
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Fielding percentage is an abomination. Can't we all please agree to never use that metric again? That said, there are some conflicting data points on the defensive value of Reyes vs. Ramirez. The 2007 Scouting Report ranks Reyes slightly better than Ramirez thanks to the former's superior arm strength and speed. Fielding Runs, however, ranks Ramirez significantly better than Reyes, to the tune of 12 runs (>1 win). I'm guessing this is what Tim is referencing above. But the metric I like best is Zone Rating, which captures the rate at which a player turns batted balls into outs within his zone of responsibility. By ZR, Reyes was the 4th-best defensive SS in baseball, converting 86% of balls into outs; Ramirez was the absolute worst SS in baseball by ZR, turning outs at only a 79% clip. What do we make of the conflicting information? I'd say that neither is really great defensively, but Reyes is probably slightly better. He converted more balls in play into outs -- and, after all, isn't that a defensive player's job?
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JoshkrossDraft Pick
1031 days ago
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Fair enough. FP can suck it. It was just what I grabbed quickly off the basic stats to make the point. Seems like it bears out with your better numbers anway :)
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JoshkrossDraft Pick
1031 days ago
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Also, Miguel Cabrera should be on the team, in the Outfield. His defense and attention at 3b are atrocious.
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KelsdadAll-Star
1031 days ago
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Look at range factor too Davis, Reyes is pretty low there.
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Davis21wylieMVP
1031 days ago
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Good point, KD. I looked for mitigating factors in Reyes' favor (like team groundball-flyball ratio or LHP%), but they don't offer any explanations: NY's pitching staff forced 43% groundballs, Florida 42%, so that doesn't explain the rather vast difference in range factor. So I checked % of innings pitched by lefties -- more lefties mean the opponent uses more righty batters, which in turns means more balls get hit to the left side of the infield. The results? Florida had 36.1% of their IP by LHP; NY had 33.5%. That's not a particularly huge gap, though, not enough to explain a difference of 0.7 plays per game. So I'm still intrigued as to why Zone Rating differs so much with FR...
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JoshkrossDraft Pick
1031 days ago
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Do any of those numbers bear out to say "His defense has been rather ugly" or an "atrocity"? Don't think so.
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Davis21wylieMVP
1031 days ago
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Only that 12-run differential in FR (Reyes is something like 16 runs worse than average by FR). And I'm trying to sort out why that is... So far as I understand, Fielding Runs is an attempt to reconcile traditional fielding stats (chances, assists, putouts, errors, etc.) with newer metrics like Zone Rating -- which requires one to watch every play of every game, cataloging the magnitude and direction of the vector along which every ball is hit. More than pure range factor, errors are also taken into account in FR, as are the adjustments I mentioned above (LHP%, GB-FB%, etc.). So FR is basically a proxy for something like plus-minus or ZR, the advantage of which is that you can calculate FR for almost every MLB season ever, whilst ZR only dates back to 2000 or so. Is it possible that FR is missing something that ZR picks up on? My hunch is that, while the two metrics agree most of the time, sometimes FR's conversion from traditional stats doesn't go over smoothly. Things fall through the cracks. FR is an estimation, after all, and while it is a good one, it lacks the precision of ZR. My best guess is that that imprecision is probably behind the difference between the two systems when it comes to Reyes.
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JoshkrossDraft Pick
1031 days ago
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In RF, Reyes is 10% below average, while Ramirez is 3% above. This flips in ZR, where Reyes is 3.3% above, while Ramirez is 5% below.
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JoshkrossDraft Pick
1031 days ago
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Dammit, i crossed my RF with my FR. heh.
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Davis21wylieMVP
1031 days ago
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They're basically the same thing. FR is RF with some fancy adjustments.
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JoshkrossDraft Pick
1031 days ago
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It appears that POs is what's killing Reyes, which, in my guess, would average out over years, in general. Reyes is 14% below average in POs (18% in DPs!) even though his other stats seem in line with a little above average. Could it just be that he got less ground balls in general last year? Does someone have the #s of groundballs to SS by team?
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JoshkrossDraft Pick
1031 days ago
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Average of basic stats and Reyes' and Ramirez's respective % variation from

NAME TC PO A E DP FPCT RF ZR Average 622 204 400 17 88 1 4 1 Reyes -6 -14 -3 2 -18 0 -13 3

Ramirez 12 26 3 55 27 -1 3 -5
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JoshkrossDraft Pick
1031 days ago
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Oops

| |NAME|| TC|| PO||A||E||DP||FPCT||RF||ZR |- |Average||622||204||400||17||88||1||4||1 |- |Reyes||-6||-14||-3||2||-18||0||-13||3 |- |Ramirez||12||26||3||55||27||-1||3||-5

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JoshkrossDraft Pick
1031 days ago
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DAMMIT someone format that :)
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KelsdadAll-Star
1031 days ago
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Range factor is putouts + assists divided by innings played. Zone factor is an open ended stat, by that I mean it takes into consideration the percentage of ALL balls fielded in a players defensive "zone," withor without an out being recorded. So, a player with good range would have an expectation of fielding more balls, ie, a groundball in the hole, irregardless of whether an out was made. So a shortstop could have a higher ZR rating because he catches more balls but since he cant make an out on the play it affects his RF.
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JoshkrossDraft Pick
1031 days ago
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If you can decifer that mess, you'll notice Ramirez's putouts are 26% above average
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DNLLegend
1031 days ago
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As a Mets fan, I object to Hanley over Jose -- but not to Miggy over D-W.
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MetsJetsDevilsDraft Pick
1031 days ago
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This user has a bias against Jose Reyes. His computer generated model of who is a good baseball and who is not was blown out of the water last year by Jose Reyes' amazing season. Thus, he resorts to the one area where it is hardest to argue, defense. The absolute overstatement of the quality of Jose Reyes' defense (or in this case, lack thereof), suggests that as opposed to having an honest view about the subject, this diarist is heavily biased.
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Bball3345Draft Pick
1031 days ago
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MJD, you can say Bball or Tim, instead of "this user."

Reyes had an awesome season at the plate last year. I never was arguing that. I was talking about Reyes' pre-2006 years with his horrible OBP's. So, that debate is over, has been over for a long time and does not matter anymore.

It is ridiculous to say I am biased. I did not make the statement about defense as some sort of master plan to leave Reyes off the team. Give me a break.

If you don't agree with who I picked, that is ok, but you really don't have to accuse me of being biased. How about giving reasons why Reyes deserved it more than Ramirez? That would make your case seem a lot stronger than falsely accusing me.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
1031 days ago
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MJD woke up on the wrong side of the cave this morning...
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Bball3345Draft Pick
1031 days ago
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What I was referring to with Reyes defense, was that it seems as if he doesn't get to a lot of balls to make plays. With his speed, it means he is probably positioning himself wrong or misjudging balls off the bat. When he gets to the ball he is fine.
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Bball3345Draft Pick
1031 days ago
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And one more thing about Hanley Ramirez, his offense last season was just as good as Reyes. That was Ramirez's rookie season and Reyes' second full season and third year in the majors. So, that was another reason to pick Ramirez over Reyes.
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Davis21wylieMVP
1031 days ago
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Excellent work, Dan! I shall now redirect those interested to a separate page I made with a breakdown of the 2006 shortstop FR:

Link.

Basically, Reyes is lagging badly in assists, meaning that he was not making as many plays on ground balls as someone like Ramirez (or, to a greater extent, Everett). But he did so well inside his zone! Could Ramirez and Everett be making more plays outside of the designated "shortstop zone"?
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KelsdadAll-Star
1031 days ago
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Or Reyes was fielding balls where no out was made, thus no assist. High ZF, low RF. And the answer to Davis' question is yes.
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Davis21wylieMVP
1031 days ago
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An aside: Here is a cool representation of Zone Rating's "zones".

KD, I think you still have to get an out (not just field the ball) for ZR to consider it a successful play. According to Sabernomics,

ZR = (Putouts + Assists)/(Balls in zone + Balls turned into outs outside of zone).

So my question was also incorrect; making plays outside of your zone would be reflected in ZR as well. But perhaps because it adds to the numerator and denominator when an out is made outside the zone (instead of simply adding to the numerator), ZR doesn't weigh range heavily enough, which would explain why it makes Reyes look so good.
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KelsdadAll-Star
1031 days ago
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When I looked at it based on your previous link, Davis, all it says on defining Zone Range is: "The percentage of balls fielded by a player in his typical defensive zone." It doesnt say anything about outs or assists, so I just went by what was there. If it does require an out made, then where is the difference between Zone Factor and Range Factor?
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Davis21wylieMVP
1031 days ago
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That's a good question. The more I think about it, the more I feel like it has to be a matter of outs on balls outside of the zone -- by adding outs on balls out of the zone to both the numerator and denominator, ZR gives no extra credit (or incentive) to a guy like Furcal or Everett for making a lot of plays outside the zone. Range factor, on the other hand, doesn't care about "zones" at all, so to it a play inside the zone looks exactly like a play outside the zone -- you get rewarded simply for making more plays. Maybe this flaw in ZR makes range factor a better gauge of defensive performance. In which case Reyes is not as good as Ramirez. I don't know about anyone else, but I think this has been a very enlightening discussion...
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
1031 days ago
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Ryan Zimmerman shall have his revenge!!!
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Bball3345Draft Pick
1031 days ago
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I wouldn't be surprised.
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Davis21wylieMVP
1031 days ago
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I don't care what anybody says -- Ryan Zimmerman is the new Brooks Robinson. Just like the NL West is the new AL East. And Censorship is the new black.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
1031 days ago
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I don't care what anybody says either! You forgot "JUST_RIGHT" underrated is the new overrated, but you don't care what I say... =D
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BU ICEMANJV Squad
1031 days ago
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I see Eric Patterson got an honorable mention, but I think you forgot another Cubs prospect, CF Felix Pie.
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Bball3345Draft Pick
1031 days ago
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Pie would have been the next guy on my list to get an Honorable Mention, but I didn't think he was quite in the class of Chris Young.
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KelsdadAll-Star
1031 days ago
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Ryan Zimmerman is a STUD!! And I agree Davis, very enlightening.
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KelsdadAll-Star
1031 days ago
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I just saw a report saying Felix Pie is hitting .215 in the Carribbean Winter League, and the Cubs are not happy. Actually made reference to the possibility of Alfonso Soriano moving to center.
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MetsJetsDevilsDraft Pick
1031 days ago
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How come you turned down my Jose Reyes v. Hanley Ramirez challenge?
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
1030 days ago
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showdown, showdown, showdown!!!
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Bball3345Draft Pick
1030 days ago
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Because the challenge would not clear up which player is better. Obviously, Reyes will have the edge in MVP, Silver Slugger, and Gold-Glove voting because he is from New York. Just because Reyes can win a popularity contest does not mean I am going to admit I am wrong. How come you still have never given me a reason, good or bad, to pick Reyes over Ramirez?
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MetsJetsDevilsDraft Pick
1029 days ago
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You don't judge things by performance. Jose Reyes outperforms Hanley Ramirez in every category and you respond by saying that according to your computer algorythm you'd rather have Kevin Youkilis leading off for your team. I don't think you have any credibility.
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MetsJetsDevilsDraft Pick
1029 days ago
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And gosh, I put down 3 different categories. Reyes had to best Hanley in all 3. so what you are saying is that you didn't take the bet because you think that even though Reyes will best Ramirez in all 3 categories, Ramirez is still the better player. This is why I have such a problem with "this users" methodology. The whole purpose is to create inputs that result in proving that whichever player he wants to argue is better is better.
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Bball3345Draft Pick
1029 days ago
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MJD, I have no idea what you are talking about. When did I ever respond to Reyes vs. Ramirez by proving Youkilis was a better player? I have not mentioned Youkilis on this entire page, so please stick to the topic.

At 22 years old and in his first full season, Jose Reyes hit .273/.300/.386. At 22 years old and in his first full season, Hanley Ramirez hit .292/.353/.480

In 2006, Reyes made a jump to .300/.354/.487. It took Reyes an extra year to reach where Ramirez already is. This is one of the reasons why I picked Ramirez over Reyes.

Still waiting for you to give me ONE reason why Reyes is better than Ramirez... You are losing your credibility with every day that passes by and you don't answer my request.
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MetsJetsDevilsDraft Pick
1029 days ago
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Again, you get out what you put in. Reyes was playing out of position and suffered through injury problems. Look, I am not going to convince you. You hate ose Reyes as your posts have made perfectly clear. That is where Kevin Youkilis comes in. You think to poorly of Jose Reyes that you have argued you would rather have Kevin Youkilis. That was the final moment for me. I don't think there is a single GM who would rather have Kevin Youkilis than Jose Reyes. but you think you and your computer are smarter then all of them.
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Bball3345Draft Pick
1029 days ago
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Keep in mind that I picked Jose Reyes as my second choice for SS in the entire National League. It seems to be a stretch to say I hate him.

Reyes played in 161 games, all at SS in 2005, so I'm not sure when the injury problems and playing out of position factored in. You are just factually wrong in that statement.

Yes, you will never convince me, because not ONCE did you give me a single reason to prefer Reyes to Youkilis. You have questioned my credibility and stated lies, but you have never given me a SINGLE REASON.
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MetsJetsDevilsDraft Pick
1029 days ago
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Sorry, I had a different definition of 1st full season.
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KelsdadAll-Star
1030 days ago
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If the Marlins are serious about moving Ramirez to the three hole I'd take him over Reyes in a heartbeat.
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Anonymous Fanatic #1
1030 days ago
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wow, you would really regret not picking jose reyes for your SS.
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Bball3345Draft Pick
1030 days ago
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I guess we'll see.
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Anonymous Fanatic #2
1030 days ago
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how you list ben sheets in the starting rotation and not roy oswalt blows my mind.
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Bball3345Draft Pick
1030 days ago
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If healthy, there is no doubt in my mind that Sheets will outperform Oswalt. As great as Oswalt's control is, Sheets is a tad better. Plus, Sheets can dominate hitters even more. This is going to be a huge season for Sheets.
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Anonymous Fanatic #2
1026 days ago
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to bball3345 - you're right when you say sheets has better control and can dominate hitters more. although oswalt has more strikeouts, more wins, less losses, lower WHIP. lower BAA, more innings pitched AND a lower ERA than sheets, sheets is still the better pitcher. good call
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Bball3345Draft Pick
1026 days ago
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Sheets: 9.85 K/9, .259 BAA, 1.09 WHIP

Oswalt: 6.77 K/9, .263 BAA, 1.17 WHIP

Sheets 3 Oswalt 0

If you want to state "facts," make sure they are true first.
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Anonymous Fanatic #2
1024 days ago
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ok i should have specified that i was referring to CAREER numbers, not last season's stats...

Oswalt: 3.05 ERA, .254 BAA, 1.18 WHIP Sheets: 3.83 RRA, .258 BAA, 1.21 WHIP

Oswalt 3, Sheets 0

are those facts good enough for you? i could go on and on with comparing career numbers to see who's been better. next time, maybe you should look at stats yourself before adding a guy like sheets to your starting rotation because espn.com says he'll have a good year
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Bball3345Draft Pick
1022 days ago
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ESPN.com? Don't insult me by saying I care about ESPN.com. I did look at the stats, and I do believe recent performance is a better indicator than career. Sheets is not the same pitcher he was five years ago, he's better.
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KelsdadAll-Star
1029 days ago
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Sheets can't be on any list until he proves he's healthy.
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