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"Raize or Raze the Rays" - Episode Two

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by ManRays, Davis21wylie and Bball3345

It's the second round of Raise or Raze the Rays hosted by Uncle Manny Stiles a.k.a ManRays or "Erik" and featuring Davis21wylie a.k.a. DiceK21Dub or "Neil" and Bball3345 a.k.a "Golden Calculator" or "Tim" and their statistical sashimi chef-ery. Please forgive the slight variance in the numbers listed and present info, as they did get the info to me a few days ago, I was unable to post due to a personal illness and my son recovering from a surgical procedure.

Nonetheless! Holy Calculators! To the stats, Statman!!!

  • here is the original edition


Build 'em up? Or knock 'em down?
Build 'em up? Or knock 'em down?

Raise or Raze the Rays

Tim: It's been a tough season for the Devil Rays. Neil and I will attempt to analyze Tampa's year with every nugget of statistical knowledge we possess.

The events that unfolded in Tampa can not even be thought about without mentioning pitching. The sad excuse that was the Rays' arms. In spite of a duo of dominating youngsters (Kazmir, Shields), opponents scored over 900 runs on their staff. Although, pitching is at least partially dependent on defense. Maybe it was the butterfingered defensive play and limited defensive range that led to the massive amount of runs against.

What if pitching wasn't the problem? Tampa's lineup boasted Carl Crawford, Rocco Baldelli, Delmon Young, B.J. Upton, Jonny Gomes, Jorge Cantu, among others. Did the youngsters play up to par, or did they fail to perform? So, what aspect of the DRays play do you find most responsible for a season in the cellar?

Neil: Most responsible? Well, it sure as hell wasn't the offense. As we mentioned in what seems like another lifetime, the D-Rays' 2007 opening day lineup certainly had the talent to exceed the meager 4.25 runs per game they posted in 2006 -- and, sure enough, Tampa's hitters have been able to muster runs at a shockingly average rate of 4.84 runs per game this season! It's a miracle!

Chief among the architects of the Rays' offensive renaissance was... wait for it... Carlos Motherhumping Pena (!), who was signed as a minor league free agent before the year and didn't make the Devil Rays roster out of the spring, but was thrust into the lineup after a knee injury to Greg Norton on the last day of spring training. All Pena proceeded to do was hit 42 jacks, drive in 116 runs, slug .608, and get on base at a .401 clip. Unbe-freakin-lievable, if you ask me. Oh, and Carl Crawford (.315/.355/.466, 50 steals), B.J. Upton (.304/.387/.518, 21 steals), Brendan Harris (.286/.343/.434), Akinori Iwamura (.282/.354/.404), and Ty Wigginton (.275/.329/.458) had decent years at the plate, too. Plus, Delmon Young had a pretty nice season for a 21-year-old rookie (.294/.322/.418). So, yeah, there's a lot to like with this lineup. I mean, put them with a serviceable pitching staff, and you might have a semi-respectable team...

What's that? "Serviceable pitching staff"? Did I say something wrong? Hey, is that Manny Stiles I hear crying in the background?

Just for kicks and giggles, let's throw out a little trivia. Through 156 games, Tampa is on pace to allow 943 runs... The following is a complete list of MLB teams since 1901 to allow that many runs in a single season:

Year	Team			RA	W	L
1930	Philadelphia Phillies   1199	52	102
1996	Detroit Tigers          1103	53	109
1936	St. Louis Browns        1064	57	95
1936	Philadelphia Athletics  1045	53	100
1939	St. Louis Browns        1035	43	111
1929	Philadelphia Phillies   1032	71	82
1999	Colorado Rockies        1028	72	90
1937	St. Louis Browns        1023	46	108
1939	Philadelphia Athletics  1022	55	97
1911	Boston Rustlers         1021	44	107
1923	Philadelphia Phillies   1008	50	104
2000	Texas Rangers            974	71	91
2006	Kansas City Royals       971	62	100
2003	Texas Rangers            969	71	91
2001	Texas Rangers            968	73	89
1993	Colorado Rockies         967	67	95
1996	Colorado Rockies         964	83	79
1938	St. Louis Browns         962 	55	97
1987	Cleveland Indians        957	61	101
1928	Philadelphia Phillies    957	43	109
1938	Philadelphia Athletics   956	53	99
1962	New York Mets            948	40	120
1997	Oakland Athletics        946	65	97
1934	Chicago White Sox        946	53	99
2000	Houston Astros           944	72	90
1996	California Angels        943	70	91

Welcome to the club, 2007 Tampa Bay Devil Rays!!

Tim, care to comment on the abomination that was Tampa's pitching and defense in 2007?

Tim: I was hoping you would ask that! As you pointed out above, the Rays are historically bad at allowing runs. Let me first look at the pitching staff, before I hit you with a shocking conclusion.

Here are the VORPs for the Rays pitching rotation this year:

  1. 45.4 (James Shields 31 GS)
  2. 44.2 (Scott Kazmir 33)
  3. 1.3 (Andrew Sonnanstine 21/ Jason Hammel 12)
  4. -12.2 (Edwin Jackson 30)
  5. -44.2 (J.P. Howell 9/ Jae Seo 10/ Casey Fossum 10)

That is a 9 win difference between the ace and the last man in the rotation. Shields and Kazmir pitched like aces. The rest of the rotation could have been substituted with three "replacement players" and improved the Rays record by 5-6 wins.

Still, how much of the pitching was the pitchers' fault and how much was the defense? Looking at the Rays ERA (5.55) vs. Fielding-Independent Pitching (4.80), we get a difference of 0.75. In case you are wondering, the average ERA and FIP is 4.51 for both. Tampa Bay goes from being the hands-down worst staff in ERA to being the third-worst when accounting for fielding. This is not a monumental leap, but something to keep in mind. To take this a step further, the DER (Defensive Efficiency Ratio) for the Devil Rays is .658. In other words, the Devil Rays defense turns 65.8% of balls in play into outs. The league average is .687 and only one other team is as low as 70%. So maybe the bad pitching was actually a product of sub-sub-par defensive play.

No matter how you slice it, fielders just weren't getting to the ball. The pitching staff is letting up the league average 18% of line drives, so sharp liners aren't to blame. The DRays infield made only 178 Outs Outside of the Zone (OOZ). Their outfield made only 142 OOZ. Both of these numbers are near the bottom of the league. As well, fielders were mishandling balls in their fielding zone. The infield's Revised Zone Rating was .737 (league average: .776) and the outfield was at .850 (.870). While the pitching staff will be remembered for a disgusting performance in 2007, it may well be the defense responsible. Neil, you have any input on the Rays' defense, individually?

Neil: Sure. Let's start with the guys who at least tried using their gloves to help Tampa not suck so much: Carl Crawford led all left fielders in Zone Rating with .934, which basically means that 93.4% of the time a ball was hit to left field, Crawford turned it into an out. Great job, Carl! Also, Delmon Young acquitted himself pretty well in RF, ranking 9th in baseball with an .874 ZR, and I guess they had some pitchers who weren't that bad at fielding, like James Shields. (In case you can't tell, I'm reaching at this point.)

Okay, now the bad: pretty much everyone else. Catcher Dioner Navarro was at least a mixed bag -- he tied for the MLB lead among catchers with 13 errors, added 6 passed balls, and didn't really help an already-overmatched staff with his game-calling (his 5.50 CERA was easily the worst in baseball), but he did gun down would-be basestealers at a pretty decent clip (30.2% CS).

Meanwhile, the rest of the team was a total defensive nightmare. Brendan Harris was a bad second baseman (.800 ZR was in the the bottom 1/4 of 2Bs) and an absolute disaster at shortstop (.756 ZR would have been the worst in baseball had he played enough innings to qualify); Akinori Iwamura was a disappointment at the hot corner (while his .974 fielding percentage led all third basemen, he badly lacked the range to actually get to balls and make plays -- his .760 ZR was 8th-worst among qualified MLB 3Bs); Pena, while pretty decent at turning double plays (for whatever that's worth), was error-prone and posted the fourth-worst ZR (.807) of any qualified MLB 1B; B.J. Upton underwhelmed at both CF and 2B (bottom 1/4 in ZR at each position); Ty Wigginton was no better before being shipped to Houston at midseason; and Elijah Dukes threatened his ex-wife far more than he did potential base hits to center field.

So, there you have it. With almost all of their regular players ranking among the worst fielders in baseball at their respective positions, it's really no wonder that the Rays turned in such a pathetic performance on defense. Their "glovework", coupled with the fact that the vast majority of their innings were being pitched by players who have very little business being in the majors, meant that the 2007 Tampa Bay Devil Rays had basically no chance of competing in the East -- or even flirting with .500, for that matter. Here's some food for thought: they could have matched the offensive output of the Tigers (the 2nd-best offense in the AL) and still finished several games below .500! It was a disgrace, and my only question for you, Tim, is this: where the devil do these Rays go from here?

Tim: Well, I would like to say that the Rays just had bad luck and that they will certainly improve next year. However, this would not be true. They were 35-34 in close games, their Pythagorean wins matched their record, and their batting average with runners in scoring position was the same as their overall batting average. So, bad luck was not the culprit; they were just terrible.

That said, if Delmon Young is as good as scouts say, then he will surely improve. Crawford should rebound from what was a slight down year for him. Aki played fairly well for his first year in the bigs. He should be able to provide solid production for them from whatever position he fits into next year. B.J. Upton found his big league stroke and needs to be a permanent fixture in the lineup. Outfield gives him the best shot for that. Reid Brignac and Evan Longoria need to be called-up as soon as they are ready to anchor the left side of the infield.

On the not so bright side, Carlos Pena cannot realistically be expected to repeat this season's monster production. They don't have any good options at catcher. Who knows if that horrendous defense will improve, or if that is something the Rays will have to live with.

Since the hitting really wasn't the problem this year, does the pitching have any room for improvement? Well, Shields and Kazmir can be counted on to be a strong 1-2 punch. Other than that, no one from their bullpen or the rest of their starting rotation provided big-league production. First-rounder Jeff Niemann should be on his way up next year. Wade Davis and Jacob McGee are the future, but they may not be ready at any point in 2008. Because of this, the Rays are going to have to go outside of their system and potentially spend some money to bring in pitching that would improve upon the scrubs they sent to the mound this year. With the offense locked in, any offseason spending should go toward pitching. Unfortunately, pitching is not cheap to come by on the free agent market. Luckily, young pitching talent is forcing its way to the big leagues, so the Rays will not need to sign themselves into a long-term deal with any free agent pitchers.

Neil, do you see the Rays improving on this year's record, or do they spend another year at the bottom of the AL East?

Neil: While it's generally bad form to comment on next season when the current one isn't even over yet, I just don't see any way on earth that this team competes in 2008. Yes, the hitting shouldn't be a significant problem anymore (even when Pena regresses to the mean), but there's no relief in sight for this pitching staff and defense.

Not to belabor the point, but here's one more note on just how wretched this defense was in 2007. These are the worst defenses in baseball since 1950, according to The Hardball Times' definition of Defensive Efficiency:

Year	Club			G	W	L	RA	DER
2007	Tampa Bay Devil Rays    158 	65	93	926	0.646
1993	Colorado Rockies        162 	67	95	967	0.652
1997	Oakland Athletics       162 	65	97	946	0.655
1996	Boston Red Sox          162 	85	77	921	0.656
1974	Chicago Cubs            162 	66	96	826	0.656
1999	Tampa Bay Devil Rays    162 	69	93	913	0.656
1999	Colorado Rockies        162 	72	90	1028	0.657
1996	Houston Astros          162 	82	80	792	0.658
2000	Texas Rangers           162 	71	91	974	0.659
1994	Colorado Rockies        117 	53	64	638	0.659
1998	Texas Rangers           162 	88	74	871	0.660
2005	Kansas City Royals      162 	56	106	935	0.660
1996	Detroit Tigers          162 	53	109	1103	0.660
1994	Seattle Mariners        112 	49	63	616	0.661
1975	Chicago Cubs            162 	75	87	827	0.661
1995	Pittsburgh Pirates      144 	58	86	736	0.662
1994	Texas Rangers           114 	52	62	697	0.662
1950	St. Louis Browns        154 	58	96	916	0.662
1986	Seattle Mariners        162 	67	95	835	0.663
1977	Atlanta Braves          162 	61	101	895	0.663

That's right, these Devil Rays had literally the worst single-season defense in baseball since 1950! And you thought Barry Bonds was the only one who made history in 2007...

Just to emphasize, though, the pitching staff was equally revolting. Here are the worst single-season team ERAs since 1950, adjusted for park factors:

Year	Club		        ERA	PPF	aERA
1996	Detroit Tigers          6.38	101	6.32
1995	Minnesota Twins         5.76	100	5.76
2001	Texas Rangers           5.71	100	5.71
2000	Chicago Cubs            5.25	92	5.71
1994	Minnesota Twins         5.68	101	5.62
2000	Baltimore Orioles       5.37	96	5.59
2004	Cincinnati Reds         5.19	93	5.58
2003	Detroit Tigers          5.30	95	5.58
2005	Kansas City Royals      5.49	99	5.55
1997	Oakland Athletics       5.49	99	5.55
1950	Philadelphia Athletics  5.49	99	5.55
2007	Tampa Bay Devil Rays    5.58	102	5.47
1994	Texas Rangers           5.45	100	5.45
2005	Tampa Bay Devil Rays    5.39	99	5.44
1997	San Diego Padres        4.99	92	5.42
1996	California Angels       5.31	98	5.42
1996	Oakland Athletics       5.20	96	5.42
2006	Baltimore Orioles       5.35	99	5.40
1995	Detroit Tigers          5.49	102	5.38
2004	Kansas City Royals      5.15	96	5.36

Tampa was 12th-worst since 1950.

All in all, it was an historically bad showing of pitching and defense that sank the Devil Rays in 2007, and as Tim mentioned above, most of their top pitching prospects are still a year (or more) away from being ready for The Show. In other words, we've just razed the Rays in a big way, and unless they make a big splash in the free agent pitching market (which is doubtful), we'll probably be razing them all over again next year -- same time, same place.

Manny's Post Script

Erik: Thanks fellas. I'll have a player-by-player year end review of the 10th Tampa Bay Devil Rays season coming soon.

Say what you want, but I saw these guys play over 30 times (7 games from the press box and easily over 25 games on TV) during the season. When you think about the fact that I live in a National League city 3 timezones away, and it is the least popular team in pro sports we're talking about, it's an impressive feat. Now if I would have just taken the advice given to me in March from a long-time Rays fan, I would have stopped watching after every 6th inning and would have been a terribly happy baseball fan.

It was a kick in the nuts just about every other game! You could not have lost as many painful games as the Rays did this year. Not possible! The bullpen was bad, but I think I am a personal curse to Al Reyes. He is NOT as bad as what I saw. I watched every single one of his worst moments this year. And there wasn't many. Poor guy. I don't blame him for hating me.

At least they didn't lose 100 games!!!

Regardless. What a hell of a year it's been! Owner Stu Sternberg said the other day "this is the most exciting last place finish we've ever had". And I totally agree. Whether or not next year means they aren't finishing last or if it will be a less exciting last place finish remains to be seen. The owner stated that a 20% increase in salary is to be expected. Great, if that adds up to 20% more wins, they'll get 75 next year!!!

Of course 20% of next to nothing is still just barely next to nothing. I guess signing A-Rod is out of the question?

Pena, the team MVP this season absolutely has to get resigned (that's 18 1/2 of the earmarked 20% right there), or it will publicity-wise crush the Rays in a town that is showing more love to the South Florida Bulls football team! Kazmir and Shields are due extensions soon and Upton (who easily could be called the most important Ray this year) is playing his way into another statosphere before his first deal is up. It's going to be an interesting offseason for sure. At least we know they won't be chasing Curt Schilling or Jorge Posada around with a contract. Whew!

Then there's that guy Elijah Dukes, that everyone seems to be so sure (and yet so clueless) about. His talent is undeniable and we will see what they do with him - if he isn't suspended first for extraneous fallout from his ongoing and very messy divorce (NiShea Gilbert's accusations of steroid abuse and daily marijuana usage). Literally, the jury is still out!

From afar you have to see the talent stacking up here and think they have a bright future ahead of them. Even the biggest pessimist can't honestly see a way this can get screwed up. The talent is developing and the pipeline is stocked. Not only drafting David Price #1 this year but the #1 draft pick next year is pretty much locked up as well.

As a Rays fan, I will say this year has been a general disappointment compared to my original assessment but cannot wait until next year to start! In fact I can't wait so bad, I'm going to go watch Evan Longoria and Reid Brignac in the Arizona Fall League in a couple weeks!

Hey they can't have a historically bad defense or bullpen TWO years in a row, right???!?!?!

They'll have a new logo (with a sunnier disposition), a new look, a revamped bullpen, another year of seasoning and some contracts extended... Now about getting myself a new #694 Rays jersey...

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DonatevoMajor Leaguer
773 days ago
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Thats some wild statistical work!
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WfrazerjrSoccer Kid
773 days ago
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Awesome stuff, guys. You actually made me care about the Rays! Kinda!
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PeanMajor Leaguer
773 days ago
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at least they played some meaningful games in September...meaningful for the Sox and Yanks!
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
773 days ago
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Funny that you say that, but that was Coach Maddon's philosophy coming into September - to teach the youngsters "this is what it is all about in the AL East - big important September games" Don't think that it doesn't help a young player to see the division leaders play in a Need-to-win game in your house. It beats playing meaningless games against the Jays and O's...
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
773 days ago
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"Worst Team in Baseball" isn't such a bad thing this year; the worst they can do is 97 losses... even that would be the 5th best record in Franchise history! The Magicless Number is down to ONE!
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KelsdadAll-Star
772 days ago
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Joe Maddon is the Ray's manager.
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Tyrone BriggsHall of Famer
772 days ago
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So after all that calculator stuff, the Rays still suck this year, right?
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RawbeezeitzMajor Leaguer
772 days ago
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The Devil Rays are getting another new logo and new look? How many different combinations of uniforms will they have this year? More or less than Oregon?
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KelsdadAll-Star
772 days ago
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Nicely done, guys. As with your first article, I wish I could vote each of you individually. I'd love to respond, but it likely would be an article in itself. Well done.
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Davis21wylieMVP
772 days ago
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Thanks, KD. I think your Carlos Pena makes for a good companion to this one, because just as there were probably plenty of people out there who didn't know quite how historically bad the Rays were at stopping runs, there were probably as many who didn't know quite how good Pena has been this year. Such are the benefits and drawbacks (respectively) of playing for one of the lowest-profile clubs in baseball.
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Davis21wylieMVP
772 days ago
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That should read, "your Carlos Pena article".
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KelsdadAll-Star
772 days ago
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Thanks Davis. I certainly would show more respect to your work, however. I primarily would focus on the pitching and defense aspect, and the direct relationship between the two. Considering, they've allowed only 61 unearned runs, not a significant amount for their season total. They have allowed more runs on the road, which is not a surprise, but have also scored more. Which brings up issues relating to home field performance, a hitter's park nonetheless. Manny and I will hopefully (and finally) meet soon at a Fall League game. I would expect an article about the Rays prospects, specifically Longoria, possibly co-written in the same format as this.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
772 days ago
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My wife already gave me the green light!
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EroosterMajor Leaguer
772 days ago
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Don't believe him, Kelsdad.
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
772 days ago
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Edwin Jackson goes for #20 tomorrow! 20 losses that is... he's 5-19. Talk about a dude that had an unlucky year...
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Anonymous Fanatic #1
768 days ago
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Neil, have you ever watched Iwamura field his position? To say that he no range is the height of the absurdly ignorant. Here is your "no range" third-baseman:

http://tinyurl.com/ywqv3p http://tinyurl.com/26v6av http://tinyurl.com/2ac96f [under "More Coverage" http://tinyurl.com/22axua http://tinyurl.com/2b6ktz [the photo has him making the play on the bunt, inside [as it were], under "Complete Story", you can watch him snare that Lofton line drive. Iwamura otherwise made every play that inning, and so you might simply want to watch that particular half inning. Which brings me to the next time Iwamura "saved" an inning:

http://tinyurl.com/2z8tfu [under "More Coverage"]

Now might I ask just how he could get to those balls if he has no range?
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