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"HEY BOY!"….

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by LastRow

Get your ass over here! Now more times than not we would say that to a little ankle biter…Either our own, or one of our siblings. It has a way of getting their attention…If that doesn’t work, just beat the shit out of them! Only kidding…No need to call 1-800-ABUSE-ME! Although what happens when grown men get called that? We’ve all have used the phrase around our hommies…However, when an NFL official uses the phrase, well little yellow penalty flags seem to go flying into the stands. Which I have to tell you, was some of the funniest shit I’ve seen on a football field!! "What, you call me "boy" Mr. Official you can go get your damn flag…I think it just landed in row 12 seat 17, BOY!"

And so now we apparently know why Bart Scott went bonkers as he was showing off his arm…It wasn’t because he felt like he was a better quarterback than Kyle Boller and wanted to prove it to Brian Billick. Although there might be something to that, but rather he was so enraged that he was flagged for two unsportsmanlike conduct penalties was that he heard head linesman Phil McKinnely insult Samari Rolle. According to Rolle it went down like this… "He called [me] "boy"". "He did it five times," Rolle said of the official. "You don't call a grown man with a wife and three kids 'boy.' ... If he put on a helmet, he wouldn't say that to me."

There’s no reason to doubt Rolle here…It’s not like he had thoughts of conjugating up a "Hey Boy!" story before the game now. And Rolle’s right about that fact that if he put on a helmet, he wouldn't say that to me…It would probably be that times ten! However, this is where the line is drawn…The guys who sport the helmets can let all their stink ass breath out! Chatter about mamas being doorknobs…Sisters thinking a quarterback is a refund, etc. and so forth. Simply because football players are one big fraternity! The fact remains, officials, who aren’t part of that fraternity need to address players respectfully, and not call grown men "boys." Of course, you know how this all went down, don’t you? Samari most likely said something that McKinnely didn’t really take to kindly to and wanted to spit back at Rolle. Why not just take a page from the Brian Billick, "Blow Kisses in the Wind to Rodney Harrison" love novel? That was almost on the same "pissed your pants because you’re laughing so hard" level as watching a yellow hankie get javelined! Do I hear Bart Scott, Gold Medallist javelin dude in Beijing?

A couple of things worth noting here… Phil McKinnely, AKA the official in question, is black, as are Scott and Rolle in case anybody forgot or is colored blind. So that’s a relief! Because I have to tell you, I don’t know if I could deal with anymore "race cards" being played…At least for this year anyway! So we’re in the clear on that one! And to Rolle’s, "if he put on a helmet, he wouldn't say that to me." Well, apparently S & R forgot to read McKinnely’s bio, if he would he would’ve known that Phil actually played in the NFL for seven seasons, mostly as an offensive tackle with the Falcons, so McKinnely is one of the few NFL officials who might be willing to put on a helmet and say something to a player. HAHA…So take that "BOY!"

Rolle says he will discuss the issue with Ravens general manager Ozzie Newsome, and that he hopes the Ravens organization will take the matter up with the league. Hell, why not? If NFL players are held accountable for every action they make…League officials should be held accountable for their actions as well! It’s all part of the same organization, right?

For more of the lowdown on the "HEY BOY GATE" check out Edward Lee of the Baltimore Sun.

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The PipDiv-I Stud
706 days ago
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I'm sorry, and I know I can be guilty of this too at times, but I read your article and I'm still not quite sure what your point was. That and your link doesn't work.
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FrugolfVarsity Captain
706 days ago
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The point should be that a ref isn't a player and has no right to antagonize a player. Former player or not his current job is to give both teams a fair game.He should be fired for his comments.
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Tyrone BriggsHall of Famer
706 days ago
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Agreed.
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LastRowAll-American
706 days ago
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You go BOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!
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JamelAll-American
706 days ago
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Hate to say it but this in one way is a racist remark to Rolle
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Tyrone BriggsHall of Famer
706 days ago
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This "boy" type of comment (not relating at all to the story here) came up months ago and I went ballistic. It is racist.
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JamelAll-American
706 days ago
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No it's not- can we argue now?
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Tyrone BriggsHall of Famer
706 days ago
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You just said it was racist and now flip-flop for the sole purpose of arguing with me?
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JamelAll-American
706 days ago
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Perhaps- okay okay- it's just things are a little slow right now- where's Manny? Maybe some white boys will come along and tell us saying "boy" isn't a racist remark- that could be fun
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JamelAll-American
706 days ago
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Hey- what do you think about saying the Lords Prayer before all football games- right after the National Anthem - that could be neat
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Tyrone BriggsHall of Famer
706 days ago
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Don't a lot of football players already do that?
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JamelAll-American
706 days ago
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Yeah but I want the entire stadium to do that- everyone to hold hands, dip their heads, and give thanks for what they are about to encounter and pray that nobody gets hurt for our "entertainment"- that would be awesome
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Steel TownDraft Pick
706 days ago
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I'm that white boy Jamel. Bye the way, what word is "white" the adjective for in that fine description you give white people?
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JamelAll-American
706 days ago
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Huh?
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
706 days ago
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Yeeeeeeeeeeah Boyeeeeeee!

Bass for your face.

I'm pretty sure "Boy" is only a racist term if it's said by someone with a southern accent that isn't afraid to say the word "nigger" until they see someone that they consider a "nigger".

What about "kid"? Or "punk"?

I call my son "Boy" almost non-stop. Obviously that's a different situation, but at least the ref didn't say Rolle and Scott "look like little monkeys" out there. My son does indeed act like a little monkey quite often.

Regardless of the refs, Rolle's job is to play football. There's a time and place for bitching about refs - NEVER (I believe you should NEVER EVER blame the refs).

You can't lose your head and concentration because of factors you're not responsible for on the field of play. I'm sure they all are mad that it happened but have themselves to blame. People in the stands says worse things for sure. But football players are taught that refs are authoritative figures they are supposed to respect but they can't stand. Players see refs as an impedance more than as a positive part of the game. Maybe THAT is where the problem is. The Ravens players were playing the game against two teams - the Pats and the refs while they ended up losing to themselves.

You're a football player, Rolle. You're supposed to be tough. I know for a fact that YOUR OWN COACH has probably called you many, many dirty things including "boy" more than once for sure, you call each other "boys". I know it's not the same inflection, but you gotta keep your head in the game, not play the games in your head.
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JamelAll-American
706 days ago
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Manny,

In the old days white men use to call black men "boys" to bring them down a level- this shouldn't be new news to you- When a white man calls a black man a "boy" that's what it is a referance to- not saying he did it on purpose- but that's the implication

Yes you can call your son "boy"- because he is a boy- not yet a man
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
706 days ago
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"In the old days" - where are we now? Pssst... the ref that was not white. Now what?

It used to be offensive to black men when ANYONE called them a nigger, but apparently those were the "old days" too...

My point is if someone needs words to you to "bring you down a level" is that person worth your energy, let alone a heated response?

You have to see the situation for what it was. The Ravens should have done their job and nothing else. They got frustrated by calls (even though the calls clearly went both ways) and let it affect them emotionally. And it cost them the game, not refs.

If Rolle and Scott are concentrating on their job, the refs words come out as "waaaa waaaa waa waaaaa waaaa waaaaa"
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JamelAll-American
706 days ago
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Discrimination is color-blind- what's wrong with you Manny?
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JamelAll-American
706 days ago
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And I'm offended that you wrote the word "nigger"- you can't do that
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
706 days ago
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I can and I did. Don't question my credentials!
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JamelAll-American
706 days ago
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Your "credentials"??? This could be fun- what are your "credentials"??? Is it the same "credentials" as it being okay not to stand up for the national anthem?
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
706 days ago
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My credentials: Did you get to choose to be black? Well, neither did I.
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JamelAll-American
706 days ago
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Did you just say you are black???
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
706 days ago
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I didn't get to choose whether I was going to be or not. Did you? It's not what you given. It's what you do with it...
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JamelAll-American
706 days ago
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Wow- I have to share a story- I'll put it in the locker room to prove my point- I can't believe the coincidence here
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TehLokiVarsity Captain
706 days ago
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I call a lot of people boy, regardless of color, mainly when they act childish. Hey Jamel, settle down boy, it's not a racist term nowadays. You may be lost in the 1800s, most of us aren't.
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Tyrone BriggsHall of Famer
706 days ago
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During a peaceful civil march in the late 50s, my dad was called "boy" by a cop - right before hitting him over the skull with a billy club.

The term is very offensive to me. Tremendously.

That may mean nothing to you but it does to me.
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TehLokiVarsity Captain
706 days ago
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Personally no one in my family has ever done any of that sort. When my grandfather immigrated here Italians went through the same shit, as did Irish-Americans. I'm not racist, I hate everyone equally :P. Like I said, I use it when someone is being childish. Your meaning and my meaning vary. You wouldn't find me using racist terms period, except on myself. I'm a self-proclaimed Guido :P
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JamelAll-American
706 days ago
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I think all Tyrone and I are trying to get at- sorry Tyrone if I'm wrong here- is be careful with that word-- it does mean different things to different races-- using the word "boy" was not lost in the 1800s- sorry it wasn't- it was being said and still used as a racial slur in the 50's and 60's-- like Tyrone wrote his dad and my grandfather both have gone thru similar episodes-- if someone called me "boy" and because of the story my grandfather told me I would do a double take-- also- it does matter on how you use it- as in TehLoki's case- I wouldn't get bent out of shape-- Just be careful- that's all-
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Steel TownDraft Pick
706 days ago
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Are you saying it depends on the context it is used in? If so, then I agree with you.
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JamelAll-American
706 days ago
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Honestly-- it's really really hard to find a right usage on calling a grown black man a "boy"-- like my dad (if I had one- he passed away and was part of my life- don't go there)- if he called me "boy" that would be okay- other than that it's a little tricky- I guess my point has been you can get away with calling other races "boy" before black men- that's all- because there is a past there-- I have problems with people try to tell my otherwise or for example say "oh that happened in the 1800s"- they are wrong--
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
706 days ago
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"Honestly - it's really really hard to find a right usage on calling" people on a website a douche bag, a homo or cracker, etc...

Boy, you so crazy!!!

Look, I've been discriminated against for a large portion of my life for various reasons - and I'm a peaceful, kind man with NO enemies on this planet - but people believe their ignorance and fears before assessing the not-as-obvious truth - I don't like it. I hate being called things I'm not, I hate people assuming I'm something I'm not - I don't think ANYONE likes being treated by assumptions, but that's why you should PRACTICE what you PREACH... it goes around and it comes around.

Over the years I have learned I can read people like a book just by paying attention how they react to me and/or things I do. It's fun freeking people out.
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JamelAll-American
706 days ago
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Manny- you amuse me-- I like when you are around-- keep posting about yourself- it's hilarious-

You are becoming a legend here- I actually copy and paste some of your comments and email them to my buddies- we get a good kick out of it-

Keep up the good work
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
706 days ago
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"Hey_Boy"_article YOU want ME to post about MYSELF?
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
706 days ago
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...stupid links never work right for me... http://www.a...ards_to_the_"Hey_Boy"_article
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JamelAll-American
706 days ago
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What-- it timed out and things got all weird- but please tell me more about yourself- Your opinions are classic
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Manny StilesMajor Leaguer
706 days ago
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I don't have opionions - I make as clear of observations as I can and filter them with a lifetime of experiences with logic and reasoning.

Opinions are just glorified hopes and wishes for things to be how you want them to be. I just want things to be what they are... perfectly the way they should be.

I control my world not THE world.
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